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Sound familiar?
[QUOTE=LordMorpheus;3711036]
Sweetsayy.
After being quiet for a few days, messaged me out of the blue asking me to go to her school and pay $3700 on her student account so she can stay in school.
[/QUOTE]Daddy I need a huge favor and I know this is a lot to ask for but I need you to go to my student account at my college and pay 3,760 pleaseeee.
That's all I'm asking for and I will do anything.
I will never ask for anything this huge.
Please daddy.
Please I really need to stay in school!
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This might work.
I added a few (couple dozen) to your data base. The time you spent doing this did not go unnoticed or unappreciated.
I am NOT a computer person. My only wish list trying it out today is a profile that has not been active in a few weeks is not accessible.
Just my opinion, but the key success or failure to this database is who has access to it. There are several "sightseers and tire kickers" on here that while are trustworthy, are never actually SA / WYP members seeing girls on there therefore are not able to contribute. They just enjoy reading the post and checking the profiles out on a fake / non active account. And then we have the White Knight issue. I have added a few FB links and may add some "personnel" pictures in the future.
This could work, but it leads me back to "who do you trust"?
[QUOTE=TDG777;3713151]2 or 3 years ago I watched a movie about some amateur porn agency in Florida (Hussie models, I think). I'd also read about how GirlsDoPorn got their "actresses" by posting fake ads for modeling on craigslist. So I basically just copied that, posting an ad for 'erotic glamour' models to send me their portfolios. Got four or five over a few days, to my surprise. Even for me, this felt a bit scumbag-ish, and SA was easy back then. So I never replied to any of them. Most were plain looking, but there was one that was a good looking 20-something who had a nice portfolio on Model Mayhem.
So I decided to give SA one last shot. But this board is ruined for us. I wrote a program that imports SA user accounts and puts it into an easy to use souped-up spreadsheet (Airtable). I only imported a 1,000 accounts, because it is tedious and I did it semi-manually. But I can update it to pull all the info every xyz minutes. The advantage here is that reports are linked to real SA accounts, and everything is filterable / searchable / groupable / linkable. It's 10 x better than SA's search interface.
But that's not the real point. The real point is getting off a board where we can be outed for sharing information. I'm giving JRedmond access to all the data that I already put in there. I trust him due to our PM messaging. If he gives the thumbs up, we'll go from there to figuring out how to give access to trusted producers of solid info. And yeah, of course it is free. Unlike the other board, which I refuse to give money to out of principle. The only thing that matters to me is taking SA back from the rinsers, and reviews back from white-knights. Crossing my fingers that I'm not the only one who feels the same.[/QUOTE]
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This might work.
One final thought on this. If one of us were to get "knighted" to a girl that we posted about on there, it will much easier to find the "rat" we have aboard our ship.
[QUOTE=TDG777;3713151]2 or 3 years ago I watched a movie about some amateur porn agency in Florida (Hussie models, I think). I'd also read about how GirlsDoPorn got their "actresses" by posting fake ads for modeling on craigslist. So I basically just copied that, posting an ad for 'erotic glamour' models to send me their portfolios. Got four or five over a few days, to my surprise. Even for me, this felt a bit scumbag-ish, and SA was easy back then. So I never replied to any of them. Most were plain looking, but there was one that was a good looking 20-something who had a nice portfolio on Model Mayhem.
So I decided to give SA one last shot. But this board is ruined for us. I wrote a program that imports SA user accounts and puts it into an easy to use souped-up spreadsheet (Airtable). I only imported a 1,000 accounts, because it is tedious and I did it semi-manually. But I can update it to pull all the info every xyz minutes. The advantage here is that reports are linked to real SA accounts, and everything is filterable / searchable / groupable / linkable. It's 10 x better than SA's search interface.
But that's not the real point. The real point is getting off a board where we can be outed for sharing information. I'm giving JRedmond access to all the data that I already put in there. I trust him due to our PM messaging. If he gives the thumbs up, we'll go from there to figuring out how to give access to trusted producers of solid info. And yeah, of course it is free. Unlike the other board, which I refuse to give money to out of principle. The only thing that matters to me is taking SA back from the rinsers, and reviews back from white-knights. Crossing my fingers that I'm not the only one who feels the same.[/QUOTE]
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Outlying areas
[QUOTE=TDG777;3713151]2 or 3 years ago I watched a movie about some amateur porn agency in Florida (Hussie models, I think). I'd also read about how GirlsDoPorn got their "actresses" by posting fake ads for modeling on craigslist. So I basically just copied that, posting an ad for 'erotic glamour' models to send me their portfolios. Got four or five over a few days, to my surprise. Even for me, this felt a bit scumbag-ish, and SA was easy back then. So I never replied to any of them. Most were plain looking, but there was one that was a good looking 20-something who had a nice portfolio on Model Mayhem.
So I decided to give SA one last shot. But this board is ruined for us. I wrote a program that imports SA user accounts and puts it into an easy to use souped-up spreadsheet (Airtable). I only imported a 1,000 accounts, because it is tedious and I did it semi-manually. But I can update it to pull all the info every xyz minutes. The advantage here is that reports are linked to real SA accounts, and everything is filterable / searchable / groupable / linkable. It's 10 x better than SA's search interface.
But that's not the real point. The real point is getting off a board where we can be outed for sharing information. I'm giving JRedmond access to all the data that I already put in there. I trust him due to our PM messaging. If he gives the thumbs up, we'll go from there to figuring out how to give access to trusted producers of solid info. And yeah, of course it is free. Unlike the other board, which I refuse to give money to out of principle. The only thing that matters to me is taking SA back from the rinsers, and reviews back from white-knights. Crossing my fingers that I'm not the only one who feels the same.[/QUOTE]I have a bit of Cape and Carbondale info if You are interested.
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What's the game plan? I know there are sites that you can upload homemade clips on that people can purchase and download. Thinking of doing something like this? It can be profitable.
[QUOTE=TDG777;3710699]What's with the influx of women who want to be "spoiled" (code for you giving them money and getting nothing back) and "financial domination" (plain-speak about you giving them money and them laughing at you)? At least half of the last 10 women I've talked to have opened up with a message saying they are there to sell pictures or panties, with no intention of ever meeting in real life. Except one.
I wrote some details about my really clever and funny reply, but seeing as how this board is a great way to get doxxed, you'll just have to trust me.
I'm kind of done with SA. It's gone downhill. Maybe I played my part by overpaying, but I feel like overpaying would draw in more higher quality SBs. I've decided to make porn instead. At least then you know what you're getting. I'm done with wasting my time on a site that thinks rinsers are perfectly acceptable for a SB site. Good luck out there.
As a last parting gift, my recent list:
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/cfde3733-b492-4b97-9d6a-0ab7aa9f393f[/URL]
SoulfulLight101.
Seen her before. BBCIP. Tall, thin, tattooed. In town for a bit.
Scarlettrose97.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/81403e4c-950d-4a6e-a234-d32a1d480f8c[/URL]
Rinser.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/5f39aedc-c99b-4e3c-b3a2-247c52a57eee[/URL]
Lollypoplea.
Rinser.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/8abd5a24-73b4-4ec8-90be-44b644c596d9[/URL]
MandieGlam.
Rinser.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/41080ce6-660d-45dc-972a-2e1688546ab5[/URL]
Abbie_pruitt.
Gave out her number to me at least three times in the last year (I change accounts when I get frustrated with SA, delete my account, and swear it off for a few months). She always ghosted afterward. She is friends with Emma the hot young blonde. There is a group of them across the river. I think they are all rinsers, but this one forgets who I am and tries again. Maybe she is just a flake, so correct me if I'm wrong here.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/1d2a9467-9170-415f-a81b-fb6d8091a84c[/URL]
That special girl.
Feel like I've seen reviews that says she's good to go. Never met her, but messages seem to indicate that she is good to go. Her sister was on SA and had some good reviews here, I believe. Sister was blonde, has a kid. They seem Bosnian or something.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/085e9eac-631a-75b8-9fd7-19af36a1d13f[/URL]
Brooke.
At one time was definitely an escort I recognize. I think she wasn't well reviewed. Came close to meeting her, and she disappeared.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/4473ff40-0e26-42fb-8b4a-8b38f5bb77f8[/URL]
Littlelouu.
Hight caliber rinser. Putting this one down again because I want to make sure none of you get rinsed like I did.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/57fd11f5-0ac4-4a26-91e8-79a3258f7293[/URL]
Legsfordays91.
Wants $800 for no guarantees. She epitomizes all that I hate about women and SA's current state beggars being choosers, retards pretending to be smart, and trash pretending to be classy.
For $800 in NY I can get a smoking hot model / actress-wannabe to do anything I want for an entire night. Shit, for $800 I can hire for porn. Which honest to god, is what I'm doing next. I'm done with SA again. Maybe I'll see you all again in 3 months, but hopefully I'll find better luck with women who don't pretend to be something they are not.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BoilerWelder;3713324]Daddy I need a huge favor and I know this is a lot to ask for but I need you to go to my student account at my college and pay 3,760 pleaseeee.
That's all I'm asking for and I will do anything.
I will never ask for anything this huge.
Please daddy.
Please I really need to stay in school![/QUOTE]LOL word for word the same!!
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Or
[QUOTE=JRedmond;3713664]One final thought on this. If one of us were to get "knighted" to a girl that we posted about on there, it will much easier to find the "rat" we have aboard our ship.[/QUOTE]And I'm just spitballen here you could not give a fuck and make the chicks compete for your money.
The only shortage on "sugar" (hooker) sites are "daddies" (johns) with the money to do it. Why you guys give a fuck at all about "rats," or chicks finding out what you say is completely beyond me. It's almost as if "daddies" can't wait to get involved with all the drama that sucks about dating. It's like some of you guys want to pay the money AND put up with the bullshit.
Here, try this;.
Call "baby" and baby says "I saw what you wrote abo".
(click).
Call another fucking baby.
A2.
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[quote=admin2;3714022]and i'm just spitballen here you could not give a fuck and make the chicks compete for your money.
The only shortage on "sugar" (hooker) sites are "daddies" (johns) with the money to do it. Why you guys give a fuck at all about "rats," or chicks finding out what you say is completely beyond me. It's almost as if "daddies" can't wait to get involved with all the drama that sucks about dating. It's like some of you guys want to pay the money and put up with the bullshit.
Here, try this;.
Call "baby" and baby says "i saw what you wrote abo".
(click).
Call another fucking baby.
A2.[/quote]best advice ever!
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Studio
[QUOTE=TDG777;3710699]
For $800 in NY I can get a smoking hot model / actress-wannabe to do anything I want for an entire night. Shit, for $800 I can hire for porn. Which honest to god, is what I'm doing next. I'm done with SA again. Maybe I'll see you all again in 3 months, but hopefully I'll find better luck with women who don't pretend to be something they are not.[/QUOTE]That's what I'm saying. Setup a studio in STL under the guise of making a porn studio and have these chicks (tested) come and get paid while you get banged.
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Sa
One note and one question:
Don't waste your time with GemmaGirl23. When I asked about meeting she kept saying she never had time because she works two job then when I asked why she was on the site if she didn't want to meet, she blocked me.
Also, has anyone had any luck with Flower898? Seems like a major game player. Texts me about wanting to meet then disappears for days at a time.
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Sa
Babyjay01.
Colombia1.
Snagged these 2 on a dating app I run a SD profile on.
No time limit, reasonable donation.
If you don't like thicker teens with baby phat, they are probably not for you.
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Katie1414
Don't waste your time. Wants a M&G then will decide on a 2nd or 3rd date if she will want an arrangement but expects you too front money as if you were in an arrangement already. Also has 'substantial' on her profile and when I made a comment about that he response was basically "If you can't afford it, why did you message me". BTW, in case you are curious, 'substantial' is 10 k a month so she wants 120 k a year for an arrangement. Delusional.
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Lexyluhmama420
Possible ripoff and more. We talk. I head her way. I get close and suddenly she loses her id and wants things up front. I say no. She tries sob story to get me to give her before I pick her up and says she needs money for a new id. I say no. I pull a quick u turn and head home.
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[QUOTE=JRedmond;3720951]Babyjay01.
Colombia1.
Snagged these 2 on a dating app I run a SD profile on.
No time limit, reasonable donation.
If you don't like thicker teens with baby phat, they are probably not for you.[/QUOTE]I would avoid Babyjay. Wait a year if you get my meaning.
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[QUOTE=Jakeubb;3722733]I would avoid Babyjay. Wait a year if you get my meaning.[/QUOTE]Good advise. Do you know this for certain?
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[QUOTE=Jakeubb;3722733]I would avoid Babyjay. Wait a year if you get my meaning.[/QUOTE]Per Babyjay, she is 18 (but has no I'd to prove it). She has also been a SB since she was 13 according to her.
I will definitely pass on this one!
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Allyssa86
Traveling pro. On BP and EB. Last 4 7657. Prolly get her cheaper that way. I have not partaken. Just recognize pics.
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Kskisses.
Avoid this one. Threatened to post my photo and number on the 'predator' sites unless I sent her money via PayPal.
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[QUOTE=DocOck81;3727145]Avoid this one. Threatened to post my photo and number on the 'predator' sites unless I sent her money via PayPal.[/QUOTE]VERY MUCH AGREED!
She informed me that I already had my photo on such a site as well as my number. She then blocked me.
I have since been able to get the page 404'd and have requested Google to not include it in a search of my number.
That was not a fun couple of hours this morning!!
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SweetSB
One of my faves is back on the site. Saw her a year ago or so for a while and she was amazing. Be warned, she is a smart ass and tough as nails but once you are in, she is the best girl off SA I have met. Appears she is open to some short term arrangements now which she wasn't before.
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[QUOTE=LordMorpheus;3727292]VERY MUCH AGREED!
She informed me that I already had my photo on such a site as well as my number. She then blocked me.
I have since been able to get the page 404'd and have requested Google to not include it in a search of my number.
That was not a fun couple of hours this morning!![/QUOTE]Why aren't you guys using apps like Burner for communication?
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[QUOTE=SkipGgPing;3728952]Why aren't you guys using apps like Burner for communication?[/QUOTE]Picture leaking out would be more worrisome than phone the number.
Yes, it is good to have a phone number not linked to your real identity.
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Most all do
[QUOTE=SkipGgPing;3728952]Why aren't you guys using apps like Burner for communication?[/QUOTE]I have no doubt that most of us do use a burner or an app including Morph. But even then that situation causes a problem, because do you really want to get a new burner # every time you talk to a different lady? And then the pic issue. These sites are known scams, SA knows about them and it is illegal here. But they are hosted in foreign countries where getting them shut down is next to impossible. If you know the info of who does it you can press charges. It's been done. The point is it's extortion and it's a big pain in the ass. It's a good idea to use the search option here and others when you are interested in any woman. We have to be safe just like them.
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123 jennifer SA girl.
I am talking to this girl any info would be helpful.
She just wanted to meet for dinner only dates.
Thanks in Advance.
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[QUOTE=LordMorpheus;3727292]VERY MUCH AGREED!
She informed me that I already had my photo on such a site as well as my number. She then blocked me.
I have since been able to get the page 404'd and have requested Google to not include it in a search of my number.
That was not a fun couple of hours this morning!![/QUOTE]This blackmail site is getting a lot of action these days from SA. I have found posts in threads from Milwaukee, Atlanta, and now St. Louis. We'd love to get your prescription for how to get things taken down. Also, since the Richmond thread is the de facto national SD blog, if you could post over there also it would help more SDs.
I just got a Google Voice number to use w / women I don't know well, but the photo issue is a sticky one.
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Trophywife699
Has anyone met up with trophywife699?
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/9c9afedc-8b40-4ef1-b417-ae49d21a1620[/URL]
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[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3735825]This blackmail site is getting a lot of action these days from SA. I have found posts in threads from Milwaukee, Atlanta, and now St. Louis. We'd love to get your prescription for how to get things taken down. Also, since the Richmond thread is the de facto national SD blog, if you could post over there also it would help more SDs.
I just got a Google Voice number to use w / women I don't know well, but the photo issue is a sticky one.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure how what I did actually worked is the problem. When a girl from S. A. That I had been talking to asked, "WTF is this? And sent me a link to a site showing my picture and phone number, I freaked out.
The website stated that the only way to have info removed was to contact "attorneys" at another site. I wasn't about to want to get an attorney involved.
I found a "contact us" link under the main menu of the site. It asks for your name, email, and website, as well as you can include a note. I entered the info, and for a note asked how, in a matter of words, the holy hell could my information have been posted (according to my webpage, 3 months previously) when I had done nothing of the sort that they were slandering me for doing. I asked them to please contact me so we could come to a understanding.
I then contacted one of the "attorney" sites listed. I gave them my name, and the address of the defamatory site.
They quoted $1500 to get the page removed.
I was effing beside myself and was racking my brain to figure out WTF to do. About 15 minutes later, I contacted a different "attorney" site listed on their page. They wanted $2500.
But, when the "attorney" checked the site using the address my info was on, the "attorney" said the page was coming up 404 Not Found.
I verified that by trying to pull it up again after clearing my cache. 404 for me also.
BUT, when my number was Googled, a link to the defamatory site still came up, but went to a 404 page when clicked.
After some searching, I found the Google "remove outdated console tool: urlreplacement0}.
From there, I simply entered the URL of the now 404'd page. Within 12 hours, the offending site was no longer shown when my telephone # was searched. Google, I assume, had verified the page was down, and removed it from their search.
This is what I did, to the best of my memory. I can't guarantee it will work again, but if your stuff is out there x all you can do is try!
I personally give my permission to copy and paste this message wherever it may help.
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Unicorn found!
Today I traveled to another city about 100 miles away to meet a new one I had been talking to from S. A. The plan was to pick her up, bring her back here (where I still had a room from a visit with a young lady no longer on S. A.) then take her home after a few hours.
One block from her home my water pump goes out. I text her and tell her my situation. She is concerned I can make it to a friend's shop. 2 hours later, I have a working vehicle. I text her, and she still wants to see me. I tell her we no longer have time to drive back here, but I could get a cheaper hotel in her city. She says that's fine. I inform her that I need to hit an ATM since her allowance was just spent on a car repair.
She tells me not to worry about it. She just wants me.
2.5 hours of fun later, I take her home.
Someone on S. A. For sex, and not primarily for $?
I will be making this drive frequently from now on!
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Thanks for the info and I hope I never need to use it.
If I may ask, you said your picture had been on "the site" for several months. If you have a picture (s) on your SA profile, was it the same one?
I have a photo that is from a distance and not to identifying.
I chose not to share better / additional photos till I get them off the site and texting.
[QUOTE=LordMorpheus;3736256]I'm not sure how what I did actually worked is the problem. When a girl from S. A. That I had been talking to asked, "WTF is this? And sent me a link to a site showing my picture and phone number, I freaked out.
The website stated that the only way to have info removed was to contact "attorneys" at another site. I wasn't about to want to get an attorney involved.
I found a "contact us" link under the main menu of the site. It asks for your name, email, and website, as well as you can include a note. I entered the info, and for a note asked how, in a matter of words, the holy hell could my information have been posted (according to my webpage, 3 months previously) when I had done nothing of the sort that they were slandering me for doing. I asked them to please contact me so we could come to a understanding.
I then contacted one of the "attorney" sites listed. I gave them my name, and the address of the defamatory site.
They quoted $1500 to get the page removed.
I was effing beside myself and was racking my brain to figure out WTF to do. About 15 minutes later, I contacted a different "attorney" site listed on their page. They wanted $2500.
But, when the "attorney" checked the site using the address my info was on, the "attorney" said the page was coming up 404 Not Found.
I verified that by trying to pull it up again after clearing my cache. 404 for me also.
BUT, when my number was Googled, a link to the defamatory site still came up, but went to a 404 page when clicked.
After some searching, I found the Google "remove outdated console tool: urlreplacement0}.
From there, I simply entered the URL of the now 404'd page. Within 12 hours, the offending site was no longer shown when my telephone # was searched. Google, I assume, had verified the page was down, and removed it from their search.
This is what I did, to the best of my memory. I can't guarantee it will work again, but if your stuff is out there x all you can do is try!
I personally give my permission to copy and paste this message wherever it may help.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=JRedmond;3737114]Thanks for the info and I hope I never need to use it.
If I may ask, you said your picture had been on "the site" for several months. If you have a picture (s) on your SA profile, was it the same one?
I have a photo that is from a distance and not to identifying.
I chose not to share better / additional photos till I get them off the site and texting.[/QUOTE]Honestly, I do not remember. It might have been on my S. A. Profile. Since then, I have changed most of my pictures.
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Any info on this one? Set to meet up soon!
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/64ce0167-da51-442a-b7b2-bfbe268cfa64[/URL]
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SweetestTea
Any info? Set to meet up soon and would love to know any other experiences going in.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/64ce0167-da51-442a-b7b2-bfbe268cfa64[/URL]
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Linds2345
Another BP girl masquerading as a SB.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ef124900-5016-4f77-a18d-b490d3a27905[/URL]
[URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/479-755-7743/39659587[/URL]
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Unicorn + 1.
Drove to another city to see my unicorn and was able to find another female for her as she wanted. Met the female I had found for her. Drove around waiting on the unicorn to reply. Finally gave up, and the roommate of the female I'd found join us.
The young lady I'd found for my unicorn I first messaged 5 months ago. Patience paid off.
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Great report and thanks. But do you have anything to report that can help the rest of us?
Besides your driving to other cities having sex with women? Happy your having success, but is this a "bragging report" and provides no information that any of us can use.
[QUOTE=LordMorpheus;3739590]Drove to another city to see my unicorn and was able to find another female for her as she wanted. Met the female I had found for her. Drove around waiting on the unicorn to reply. Finally gave up, and the roommate of the female I'd found join us.
The young lady I'd found for my unicorn I first messaged 5 months ago. Patience paid off.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=JRedmond;3740577]Great report and thanks. But do you have anything to report that can help the rest of us?
Besides your driving to other cities having sex with women? Happy your having success, but is this a "bragging report" and provides no information that any of us can use.[/QUOTE]I sent you a PM.
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Unicorn gone
Well, it looks like my unicorn has deactivated from S. A.
She was ShyKink out of Columbia MO.
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[QUOTE=LordMorpheus;3741535]Well, it looks like my unicorn has deactivated from S. A.
She was ShyKink out of Columbia MO.[/QUOTE]I live out that way and had been communicating with her but she went ghost on me also. Won't respond to txt. I never got to meet her! SA is becoming flakier than before if that's even possible.
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[QUOTE=Moego;3743187]I live out that way and had been communicating with her but she went ghost on me also. Won't respond to txt. I never got to meet her! SA is becoming flakier than before if that's even possible.[/QUOTE]I certainly hear you on the flakiness of S. A. Simply getting a reply from anyone has drastically diminished in the past few weeks it seems.
Well, if she pops back up again, definitely see her, as she takes "negotiable" to a new level!
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Sassy_Blonde0.
Met this one 4 times last year and before she was on SA met her on some other site the year prior a few times as well. Older but a body which puts most 20's somethings to shame. I did have to journey up to Jeff city, but 200 for room and a nights worth of ass. I did not try greek but everything else was on the table and I did not wrap up nor was I asked to and I did not pull out. CIP / BBJNSNQ Dumb I know but we all are weak from time to time. I met her one time a bit south of Jeff city at some town I don't recall. Nice weekend trip. Basically was like a date then fucking and some more fucking the next day and part ways.
Feistybabyy.
Been with this one as well more than 5 times. Full GFE, initially BBFS, but once I realized she met other guys I stopped that, but if you into that BBFSCIP is not much of an issue. Just beaware you are definitely not the only one. I believe she even made a BP appearance one week last year but I have been seeing her off an on for quite a while. She did have a few jerky stalkers threaten to tell "his friends" about her and such but really not sure to believe her nor would I be surprised.
Lady_jo74.
Was bored. Met her once decided on a car BJ. 50 $ . Never repeated.
Shiloh456.
Trip through IL, met this one last year. 100 . Clock wasn't watched but I finished what I needed in about an hour. (second pic).