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His reputation has already taken a hit. He will likely pay a fine and move on. The longer he drags it out the more impact.
[QUOTE=TomMcAn;4163459]And with all the money he's got, he should be able to hire lawyers good enough to deflate Uncle LEO's surveillance video tactics. The Fourth Amendment is in the Constitution for a reason.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TomMcAn;4163459]And with all the money he's got, he should be able to hire lawyers good enough to deflate Uncle LEO's surveillance video tactics. The Fourth Amendment is in the Constitution for a reason.[/QUOTE]Whether or not he beats the charges, the damage is already done. This situation illustrates the risks associated with visits to AMPs. I have no idea if the "trafficking" charges are true but the reality is that almost any AMP could be targeted using the rationale applied in this case. Just another risk factor to consider when partaking in the hobby. And, IMHO, a good argument in favor of indies over AMPs.
[QUOTE=OldManInVa;4163482]His reputation has already taken a hit. He will likely pay a fine and move on. The longer he drags it out the more impact.[/QUOTE]There's going to be lots of moralizing from all sides. I expect that he will make a sizable donation to a charity as additional penance along with an apology. That Jussie Smollett guy is probably super happy about this taking the spotlight off him a bit.
[QUOTE=TomMcAn;4163459]And with all the money he's got, he should be able to hire lawyers good enough to deflate Uncle LEO's surveillance video tactics. The Fourth Amendment is in the Constitution for a reason.[/QUOTE]The report says that they were able to place surveillance camera's inside a private establishment. I didn't think that was legal at all.
[QUOTE=Mandane;4163357]Robert Kraft is a monger.
[URL]https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/local/2019/02/22/new-england-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-charged-soliciting-prostitution-florida-spa/2939429002/[/URL][/QUOTE]Brady winning his 6th Super Bowl at 41, or Robert Kraft still having bullets in the gun at 77?
I say Mr. Kraft for the win.
Just glad my Fav Nova AMP has my play name & play number only! Plus, don't you need to get caught in the act or videotaped like this instance?
[QUOTE=DoggieFan;4163872]Brady winning his 6th Super Bowl at 41, or Robert Kraft still having bullets in the gun at 77?
I say Mr. Kraft for the win.
Just glad my Fav Nova AMP has my play name & play number only! Plus, don't you need to get caught in the act or videotaped like this instance?[/QUOTE]Last report I saw was that the police where able to get hidden cameras placed in the spas that showed everything. There was no FS, just HJ and BBBJ.
[QUOTE=Mandane;4163887]Last report I saw was that the police where able to get hidden cameras placed in the spas that showed everything. There was no FS, just HJ and BBBJ.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/2/22/18236452/robert-kraft-patriots-owner-charged-soliciting-prostitution[/URL]
Follow the link in the article to read a PDF (16 pages) of the affidavit. It details the investigative steps taken by LEO in this case.
Sucks to be pats fan. The irony is this billionaire can buy any lady with no risk yet go to a "commoner place" for thrill. He has a hot girlfriend or companion too. Maybe for the thrill or whatever but I am sure if he threw a few grand he can get delivery.
Brother, when that Yellow Fever strikes it's just too much to overcome.
Pure speculation, but Kraft's probably has been in and out these places for years. My guess is since before he was a billionaire. There is a level of danger and risk that can provide some with quite a thrill. Why stop?
And let's face it, no matter what a man has at home, the inate biological urges we have to find some strange to spread the seed is just too strong to resist sometimes. Seems like there's an old saying I once heard that would be fitting. Oh yeah: "Variety is the spice of life".
Stay out of trouble, boys.
[QUOTE=Lioil;4164552]Sucks to be pats fan. The irony is this billionaire can buy any lady with no risk yet go to a "commoner place" for thrill. He has a hot girlfriend or companion too. Maybe for the thrill or whatever but I am sure if he threw a few grand he can get delivery.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mandane;4163887]Last report I saw was that the police where able to get hidden cameras placed in the spas that showed everything. There was no FS, just HJ and BBBJ.[/QUOTE]I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV. But those hidden cameras inside the individual rooms may run afoul of the Fourth Amendment. I hope Mr. Kraft fights the charges, and I hope Uncle LEO gets a well-deserved smackdown.
[QUOTE=TomMcAn;4164656]I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV. But those hidden cameras inside the individual rooms may run afoul of the Fourth Amendment. I hope Mr. Kraft fights the charges, and I hope Uncle LEO gets a well-deserved smackdown.[/QUOTE]Dear Judge,
Can I have a warrant to install cameras inside a business that is engaging in illegal activities? I have evidence to support my allegation.
Thanks,
Uncle LEO
This sting is just a reminder that there is a chance of being arrest. You have to be mentally and physically prepared for that possible occasion.
I don't know what's more impressive, our 41 year old QB winning his sixth Super Bowl or our 77 year old owner still having bullets in his gun!
Welcome to New England where even our owner scores!
[QUOTE=TomMcAn;4164656]I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV. But those hidden cameras inside the individual rooms may run afoul of the Fourth Amendment. I hope Mr. Kraft fights the charges, and I hope Uncle LEO gets a well-deserved smackdown.[/QUOTE]I heard on news that the rights are out of the window if a crime is being committed. Plus this is not entrapment either since it is a wide target operation.
Well Kraft says he denies it and police has video. Either Kraft really dumb or he has an ironclad alibi and can dispute the person in the video. Otherwise it will look really bad.
I just hope we don't lose draft picks.
[QUOTE=Lioil;4165023]I heard on news that the rights are out of the window if a crime is being committed. Plus this is not entrapment either since it is a wide target operation.
Well Kraft says he denies it and police has video. Either Kraft really dumb or he has an ironclad alibi and can dispute the person in the video. Otherwise it will look really bad.
I just hope we don't lose draft picks.[/QUOTE]I doubt the Patriots will lose draft picks if Robert Kraft is convicted. This is a potential legal action involving the owner as an individual. It has nothing to do with the team.
Having never been to Florida, I haven't patronized any of the AMP's involved in the sting. What could be of potential concern to me is if the local Asian crapshoot is being investigated using similar tactics. I've patronized crapshoot providers on a number of occasions, although after last month's busts in Maryland and Oregon I decided I wouldn't do so again. Besides, the service I received was generally mediocre to poor.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;4164374][URL]https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/2/22/18236452/robert-kraft-patriots-owner-charged-soliciting-prostitution[/URL]
Follow the link in the article to read a PDF (16 pages) of the affidavit. It details the investigative steps taken by LEO in this case.[/QUOTE]That Affidavit of Probable Cause is some interesting reading indeed. It's a dangerous world.