LA J-Girls

[QUOTE=CollegeIsScam;6838725]She must've had a bad day since my 1st visit with her was a lot better despite it still being subpar compared to typical K girl service (e. G. No preview, dead fish during mish, cutting my time short etc.). My dumbass thought if I showed up a 2nd time as a familiar, she'd have lightened up and give better service.

I should've heeded my gut feeling that told me she was a bit off mentally because she was just overly stoic throughout both sessions. I understand Japanese people are just more reserved generally speaking when compared to Koreans, but other providers like Saki and Yuka (Same Yuka for most recent post below?) were a lot more bubbly and 'normal'.[/QUOTE]I've seen the same divide in service, some jgirls do a decent imitation of kgirl service (Mari, now Namiko was one of these), while others are reserved and not fit to work at the agency. To be clear, they offer up everything but have an unenthusiastic or distant attitude. Maybe part of this is it's the first time in US for some, they have no idea what it's like until they show up and start working. So some are not up to speed on what we expect. And without a track record in the US, the agencies are guessing which girls are good. And they are going to guess wrong. Only way to find out is to try the girls. Look at Mari, she worked in Seattle, SD, LV, now LA. So clearly I'm not the only one who gave the thumbs up.

Many jgirls have worked in Japanese soap where the work is quite different due to different customer expectations and the language barrier. For example, Japanese customers know not to do X Y or Z, and when I went Japanese soapland and did X the girl looked at me funny and shook her head (I kissed her face). It's not specific to SW but the point is there is a lot to get used to working here and some are not cut out for it.

Jgirls are by the book and it's not just SWs. In Japan if you try to tip at most places they will refuse and make you take it back (with a few exceptions like taxis who deal with tourists more). If you pay a dollar too much, it's a big deal. If you pay a dollar too little, it's a big deal. People have chased me down to give it back. In the same way, when I pay a jgirl she always counts the money upfront. I'm used to it but I know it'll seem impersonal to other guys. It's not meant to be impolite but a jgirl is going to make sure you pay right, and also make sure you get what you are supposed to get.

"What you get" varies wildly as far as service. Some girls are smart enough to give enthusiastic service, others are just doing the job. I noticed the most medicore jgirl I saw previously worked for a corg where "just the job" is perfectly acceptable. She also offers video and anal, so I was still mostly happy (I chose video), because for me she did everything I asked on video, with face, and it was a lot of fun despite her "just doing the job" the whole time. She was also young and cute. Making a great video of me being a porn star was my priority and main goal.

Another by the book detail is MSOG. I don't do it most of the time because I'm not in the mood. But it is nice when the girl tries! Most jgirls do not. My favorite jgirl Izumi, we got along really well. Probably because after sex I love to chat with her 30 minutes in Japanese. If I like a girl, I really enjoy chatting, because it brings back memories of Japanese ex girlfriends. But the thing is, she acted like there would be no MSOG (even though I also didn't want it anyways). For example, she really made sure I came (I did but didn't tell her), and the moment I said yes I came we were in chat for 30 minutes mode (this was my 2nd visit so this was our routine). I joked maybe we should try round two but she wasn't having it. I suppose I could tip for it, she would have to. But it's the principle (most kgirls never asked for tip even though officially the booker says so). So for those into MSOG, it's another thing that may be by the book. Which kind of kills the mood to have to pay a prostitute twice no matter how small it is. Again, it was just the principle that disappointed me. Many kgirls worshipped me and begged for me to fuck them again, even if I didn't want to. So come on. At least pretend. I'm sure the kgirls pretended too, but they did it so well I couldn't tell either way.

3 out of 4 jgirls I saw are new to working in the US (first tour), and it shows. If the market can get the best out of 4 girls to come back, it'll work out. 2023/2024 is special because the Japanese yen has crashed hard, bringing in a sudden rush of jgirls who have never worked here before.

I want to make something clear about kgirl agency standards. I've seen dozens of kgirls in Japan, and a few in Korea. The ones in Japan were young, cute, wonderful for the most part. However, not a single one gave me the kgirl level of service as the US agencies do today. What I'm saying should be obvious. Being Korean isn't what makes the girls here give high service. The shop is what curates the girl and enforces the standard. I. e. The agencies here have a business model to set high average standards, and they pick the girls accordingly and rotate out girls who don't perform.

A few kgirls girls who are fantastic end up working here for years. My ATF has worked here for 8 years! She barely even tours because she has a lot of regulars. The point is the agency is setting the standard, and it did take many years to get to this point. The best girls are usually long-timers to agency work. Maybe it'll work out with jgirls too in the long run.

In fact I will say that occasionally a completely new and very young kgirl comes from Korea. Usually, their skill isn't very good and it shows. But it's forgiven if she at least has a good attitude, with her youthful look. So far some of the jgirls have been rather cute, usually young. That's good enough for me, but obviously not enough for many others. Three of them did video with me, one twice.

I will say something about the Japanese market. In Japan, being young and cute is far, far more important than service. It makes up for everything. Older and less attractive girls have to give good service. In fact the same thing is true of kgirls, but it's less extreme than it is in Japan. So if the girls coming are already SWs in Japan, that factors into the kind of girl who is going to show up.

[QUOTE=WhereIsJet;6838042]Haven't had the money until recently to splurge on high end providers. Is there a way to contact their middle men or do you just DM their pages / page managers to set up a meet?[/QUOTE]Which do you mean?

My personal matchmakers? Kinda impossible. They're job is to find me sexual partners to prevent me from sexual degeneracy. My experiences with them: JAV girls who don't escort but down for me, Porn Actresses from reputable porn companies who don't escort, tv and film actresses, IG girls, etc. Basically girls who are horny but don't escort.

Public matchmakers: K Bookers and C Bookers. Massage Parlors with reputable characters.

OnlyFans girls: depends. Sometimes direct or ads.

[QUOTE=FreeWally;6839164]I've seen the same divide in service, some jgirls do a decent imitation of kgirl service (Mari, now Namiko was one of these), while others are reserved and not fit to work at the agency. To be clear, they offer up everything but have an unenthusiastic or distant attitude. Maybe part of this is it's the first time in US for some, they have no idea what it's like until they show up and start working. So some are not up to speed on what we expect. And without a track record in the US, the agencies are guessing which girls are good. And they are going to guess wrong. Only way to find out is to try the girls. Look at Mari, she worked in Seattle, SD, LV, now LA. So clearly I'm not the only one who gave the thumbs up.

Many jgirls have worked in Japanese soap where the work is quite different due to different customer expectations and the language barrier. For example, Japanese customers know not to do X Y or Z, and when I went Japanese soapland and did X the girl looked at me funny and shook her head (I kissed her face). It's not specific to SW but the point is there is a lot to get used to working here and some are not cut out for it.

Jgirls are by the book and it's not just SWs. In Japan if you try to tip at most places they will refuse and make you take it back (with a few exceptions like taxis who deal with tourists more). If you pay a dollar too much, it's a big deal. If you pay a dollar too little, it's a big deal. People have chased me down to give it back. In the same way, when I pay a jgirl she always counts the money upfront. I'm used to it but I know it'll seem impersonal to other guys. It's not meant to be impolite but a jgirl is going to make sure you pay right, and also make sure you get what you are supposed to get.

"What you get" varies wildly as far as service. Some girls are smart enough to give enthusiastic service, others are just doing the job. I noticed the most medicore jgirl I saw previously worked for a corg where "just the job" is perfectly acceptable. She also offers video and anal, so I was still mostly happy (I chose video), because for me she did everything I asked on video, with face, and it was a lot of fun despite her "just doing the job" the whole time. She was also young and cute. Making a great video of me being a porn star was my priority and main goal..[/QUOTE]So what you're saying is that jgirls even in Japan don't give good service LOL. How were the civvie girls in Japan? I've never been with a civvie Japanese girl how do the non working girls in Japan compare to the working girls?

[QUOTE=AsianAssEater;6839631]So what you're saying is that jgirls even in Japan don't give good service LOL. How were the civvie girls in Japan? I've never been with a civvie Japanese girl how do the non working girls in Japan compare to the working girls?[/QUOTE]I think he's saying that the definition of "good service" or GFE, is different in Japan and from service provided by Kgirls in the US. I think service could vary depending on the type of service you pay for (e. G. , soapland vs. Online escort) just as there's a difference between "standard" kgirl service vs. MP. Also, gaijin may not get the same service offered to Japanese.

Wrt civvie girls, one can't make generalizations about their behaviors anymore that you can make generalizations about any girls in any culture. Again, your experience may depend if you're gaijin, and depending on your ethnicity or nationality.

[QUOTE=AsianAssEater;6839631]So what you're saying is that jgirls even in Japan don't give good service LOL. How were the civvie girls in Japan? I've never been with a civvie Japanese girl how do the non working girls in Japan compare to the working girls?[/QUOTE]No, I didn't say that at all. For FS they give better service than most freelancers in the US. It was good, above average in my 20 years (better than TJ for example). Agency kgirls are simply better than that (but not kgirls in Japan, or kgirls in AMP). Everyone else in the US like freelancers on HX, left much to be desired. I enjoyed it, but the agency girls were simply better. People rave about TJ but the girls are a 4-7. I prefer Asians so maybe that's a factor. So I wouldn't tell people not to go, just to compare their choices for themselves.

With 1 exception the kgirls I've seen were 7-10. That is not the norm anywhere else. That's why it keeps growing market share. Kgirls in AMP are not worth it in my experience.

Japanese girlfriends usually start out amazing. Then the honeymoon period passes and if I don't love them, I move on. Every person I know that dated or married Japanese women had this exact experience. It's "common sense" in Japan for the woman to offer it up to get the man, but once the relationship is secure she can't help but feel less motivated and attracted. She sees you as her new daddy. Especially after child birth.

I will say Japanese soap was a fond memory. It was 80% what JAV showed, so kind of surreal the positions she put me in to service me. She mixed the body lube and brought out the air mattress and everything. She worshipped me. It was also significantly cheaper, especially with the exchange rate last year.

Japan has excellent non-FS options. Oppai pubs are way better than strip clubs in the US. In the better clubs the girls are young and cute, and you can do most things other than penetrate them. It's cheap and casual.

For some people service is more important than looks, so this is help set realistic expectations going in. I prefer looks over service, so I am still seeing jgirls but it's still going to be hit and miss.

[QUOTE=FreeWally;6840125]No, I didn't say that at all. For FS they give better service than most freelancers in the US. It was good, above average in my 20 years (better than TJ for example). Agency kgirls are simply better than that (but not kgirls in Japan, or kgirls in AMP). Everyone else in the US like freelancers on HX, left much to be desired. I enjoyed it, but the agency girls were simply better. People rave about TJ but the girls are a 4-7. I prefer Asians so maybe that's a factor. So I wouldn't tell people not to go, just to compare their choices for themselves.

With 1 exception the kgirls I've seen were 7-10. That is not the norm anywhere else. That's why it keeps growing market share. Kgirls in AMP are not worth it in my experience.

Japanese girlfriends usually start out amazing. Then the honeymoon period passes and if I don't love them, I move on. Every person I know that dated or married Japanese women had this exact experience. It's "common sense" in Japan for the woman to offer it up to get the man, but once the relationship is secure she can't help but feel less motivated and attracted. She sees you as her new daddy. Especially after child birth.

I will say Japanese soap was a fond memory. It was 80% what JAV showed, so kind of surreal the positions she put me in to service me. She mixed the body lube and brought out the air mattress and everything. She worshipped me. It was also significantly cheaper, especially with the exchange rate last year.

Japan has excellent non-FS options. Oppai pubs are way better than strip clubs in the US. In the better clubs the girls are young and cute, and you can do most things other than penetrate them. It's cheap and casual.

For some people service is more important than looks, so this is help set realistic expectations going in. I prefer looks over service, so I am still seeing jgirls but it's still going to be hit and miss.[/QUOTE]Makes sense I haven't had a good experience here with the jgirls that come thru I've seen maybe 5 of them and all were terrible. Then again I come from banging latinas and kgirls so I've kinda given up on ever having a good jgirl experience. Tijuana girls are 4-7? I'm sorry my friend I prefer asians too but they are more like 7-10's TJ has a lot of independent girls if you speak Spanish you can get a young banging body Latina easily when you're there. Don't go to Hong Kong or Adelitas tho that's the place for foreigners.

[QUOTE=AsianAssEater;6840214]Tijuana girls are 4-7? I'm sorry my friend I prefer asians too but they are more like 7-10's TJ has a lot of independent girls if you speak Spanish you can get a young banging body Latina easily when you're there. Don't go to Hong Kong or Adelitas tho that's the place for foreigners.[/QUOTE]I should clarify that I went Adelitas most often, and I always went night shift. The girls at Hong Kong were even worse IMO, I always read people recommending HK and went 5 times but couldn't figure out the appeal. For me, fake boobs and facial plastic surgery don't do it. Most of them were older than me and not my type I guess. Those who have gone Adelitas would know most of the girls have super loose pussy unless you're the first or second guy. But at least it was cheap, $60-$80 back then.

I could never find independent girls, so can't say about them. I'm sure they're better.

Maybe things have gotten better lately, I had been going since 2003 and stopped once I switched to kgirls. Only one girl in TJ gave me the GFE of kgirls.

[QUOTE=FreeWally;6840125]I will say Japanese soap was a fond memory. It was 80% what JAV showed, so kind of surreal the positions she put me in to service me. She mixed the body lube and brought out the air mattress and everything. She worshipped me. It was also significantly cheaper, especially with the exchange rate last year.

Japan has excellent non-FS options. Oppai pubs are way better than strip clubs in the US. In the better clubs the girls are young and cute, and you can do most things other than penetrate them. It's cheap and casual.

For some people service is more important than looks, so this is help set realistic expectations going in. I prefer looks over service, so I am still seeing jgirls but it's still going to be hit and miss.[/QUOTE]Japan's sex industry is complicated to say the least. It's not as simple as 1. Pay a girl / agency 2. Fuck the girl to your liking. You have different kinds of services that could be good or bad depending on what you're looking for. Because their sex industry falls into a legal grey zone, they have to cover up their services with a bunch of BS workaround, which makes their process overly complicated and intimidating for beginners. Not to mention that Japan is a country built on fetishes, so naturally their sex services lean heavily into those, which creates more variety in the services.

In that sense, the US K-girl scene is like a god send for people simply looking to pay to fuck. No funny business (for the most part) and no games like dealing with independents or civies. The looks and the service just come down to the girls themselves, so a lot of our experience is based on a individual basis and reviewing becomes that much simple / valuable. What makes this challenging for J-girls is the fact that they're usually pampered in the Japanese sex industry system due to the girls being protected more by the company as a valuable product, and they're usually trained to do a certain routine to satisfy their norma. The Japanese sex market is also oversaturated, so there's less scrutiny for lack of good services especially if a girl is half decent looking.

So what's the consensus on her these days? Is she with any other bookers other than 40 models & BG?

TIA, 2 letter name is hard for search.

[QUOTE=FreeWally;6835861]Wow I was reading your review thinking she was like Mari based on her friendliness/English, then you say she's Mari. I reviewed her on TER in March. Your description matches her. Her service was definitely great. I'd see her again if I wasn't busy right now.

Guys, I cannot vouch for her being the same person as Mari that I saw in SD, but assuming that is true here was my review of her a few weeks back in the San Diego forum if that helps:

Mari. I would say maybe late 20's, she has her youth. I think she's cute, but everyone has their own taste. Light skin, hair to the middle of her back. Wore a see through gown over outfit. No shower preview but I don't ask. Affectionate and loves to kiss, more than I ask for. It was not DFK or LFK but in-between, lots of tongue play and kissing, good. Kisses me all over and licks my balls. She does BBBJ to answer Gato's question. Sucks dick as long as I wanted, normal skill. Fully shaved pussy, and "at rest" you cannot see clit but that can be solved. She likes getting eaten. I'm not good with height but would estimate 5'3". Shorter than Izumi and Rei. Bigger ass than either. A cup, not flat like Izumi but you are not going to get tits that bang together like Rei. They are small.

She was attentive, does more than I asked. She had a good routine when I let her do her thing. She did have better service and attitude than Izumi and Rei. Which is better service than some kgirls, but not as much as others. Her looks and body are better than most girls I've seen this year. She has curves and is thicker than Izumi or Rei, in good shape not fat but rounder. I would say Izumi has the best face, then Mari then Rei. But Mari has a better attitude, though a little shy. I like Mari's ass the most, but she is shorter so in missionary it is harder to match..[/QUOTE]Your review and the review you quoted are extremely accurate! Posted my own thoughts on the Korean Agency BB thread. Honestly even though I wasn't able to catch any of her non TER reviews before booking her, I'm really glad that the experiences have all been very similar and positive. She really was consistent! Can't wait to see her again sometime in this lifetime.

[QUOTE=Aimbd;6698078]SA just makes the booking for you. All the photos are from different operations and are generally fake with few exceptions.[/QUOTE]I came across SA a few weeks ago, and I see a picture of a girl I'm dating. She's been with me the whole week at home but it says she's available. I even called just to see, the booker ask me who I wanted, I told him I wanted #2 (which was my girl), then I asked if its the real picture and the girl was actually there. He said yes. Asked what time I wanted, I said an hour from now. All along my girl is with me sitting on the couch.

TOFFT on Miku and can say the overall session was good and I think she's a solid J Girl option. Its expensive to TOFFT on the full menu she offers so I just did the halfie with the bb upgrade. Knowing what I know now, I will most likely make an appointment to do the video upgrade at some point.

Pictures: Not here. Totally different person but she was pretty enough.

Looks: She's easy HYA material and its not even a debate in my mind. She's very pretty and she checks the boxes for stereotypical Japanese beauty standards. Small face, almond eyes, porcelain skin, dainty, and C cups that fill out her body really well. She's definitely got that look that someone could point her out to be an ice queen and I wouldn't question it. Thankfully, she certainly was not.

English: She has a basic grasp on English but I wouldn't count on having a deep conversation without a translator.

Attitude: She was kind and I didn't get the ice queen treatment. She's young and her demeanor reflected that. Bouncy, in it for fun, and could see us having a good time at the clubs or bars under different circumstances. I suspect she's actually a pretty fun person in a different way outside work. I had a good time pillow talking with her.

Service: Miku definitely like to be sought after. When I got to the apartment, I thought she might have been nervous or reluctant to get into each other but after some pleasantries and compliments on my end with some help of google translate, she cracked a smile and her laugh was infectious. She lightened up and it was smooth sailing from there. She was very bouncy during and after the shower. She appreciated me appreciated those titties and giving her a booty a playful tap before I DATY'd while she was in doggystyle. I got my BBBJ once she asked for 69. Miku must have a thing for getting licked while sucking dick since it was the first time a girl put herself in 69 minus my regulars who know what I like.

Naturally, I paid for the bb upgrade and thought her pussy had a good enough grip. She either had some terrific kegels or just naturally was so, or both but she felt the best in doggy and cowgirl. Her tits may have been natural given how much they flopped about when she was on top but no matter as she got a good pop from me in damn near record time since I still had a few minutes to lay down and shoot the breeze with her. Again, really easy going girl and I could tell she was excited to be in LA and listed the things she wanted to do while here. Seems like she's bright eyed and happy with life. Happy for her and told her I wanted to make a movie with her later. She gave me a kiss and told me to come back soon so we could make it happen. Roger that.

Expense: $390.

Repeat: Yes.

[URL]https://www.melosplayground.com/product-page/miku[/URL]

Seems like Booker Gray has a new JAV chick who was formerly a goalie in a national tournament!

[URL]https://www.bookergray.com/tt_wla/Miyuki/[/URL]

[URL]https://njav.tv/en/v/ebwh-077[/URL]

[QUOTE=PogeyBait;6846481]TOFFT on Miku and can say the overall session was good and I think she's a solid J Girl option. Its expensive to TOFFT on the full menu she offers so I just did the halfie with the bb upgrade. Knowing what I know now, I will most likely make an appointment to do the video upgrade at some point.

Pictures: Not here. Totally different person but she was pretty enough.

Looks: She's easy HYA material and its not even a debate in my mind. She's very pretty and she checks the boxes for stereotypical Japanese beauty standards. Small face, almond eyes, porcelain skin, dainty, and C cups that fill out her body really well. She's definitely got that look that someone could point her out to be an ice queen and I wouldn't question it. Thankfully, she certainly was not.

English: She has a basic grasp on English but I wouldn't count on having a deep conversation without a translator.

Attitude: She was kind and I didn't get the ice queen treatment. She's young and her demeanor reflected that. Bouncy, in it for fun, and could see us having a good time at the clubs or bars under different circumstances. I suspect she's actually a pretty fun person in a different way outside work. I had a good time pillow talking with her.[/QUOTE]Good to see you enjoyed! Yeah, that is a different human being in the pics like not even <20% close. Her face wasn't MCOT but goddamn her body was nice and she can truly ride! I lasted so long out of sheer will cause she was tight and young.

I went with the whole hour w / BBFS upgrade at $440 and it was worth. Her place is nice too, but I passed through so many civvies in her apartment I got a bit nervous. I believe her when she said she's a student and is 22, she looks pretty young, younger than even me.

Did she allow LFK / DFK with you? She really was against doing it it seems, let me suck on her nipples though which was nice.

[QUOTE=Moodyz;6846590]Seems like Booker Gray has a new JAV chick who was formerly a goalie in a national tournament!

[URL]https://www.bookergray.com/tt_wla/Miyuki/[/URL]

[URL]https://njav.tv/en/v/ebwh-077[/URL][/QUOTE]She is pretty hot, but her lack of emotion might kill my boner. On the fence with this one. Need someone else to TOFTT.