Philly Sugar

[QUOTE=BurbsMonger;4600720]I was talking with one yesterday who wanted 500 for dinner and 'light intimacy" when I inquired what that was she said light caressing and touching. I laughed told her she had a case of GPS and she replied with full intimacy is 1 k, instant hard pass and block. She was 28, at least her profile said that. It's getting ridiculous on SA.

Be Safe.[/QUOTE]Bottom line is that there are some people who will pay for that, and the girls know that. It's basic economics. Some will wait for that, and others will take 200-300 all day long, and see more guys / same guy more often, and make just as much. Just a personal preference of the women. In LA, I get 500-1000 k from women all the time, and politely pass. Some will just move on, and then others will start the negotiation. Many ask for that because they know there are some men out there who will pay for it, so why not ask, and many will then lower their ask from there. In LA things are more expensive, so lots of times the girl who starts at 800 will eventually drop to 300-400. And in LA, that's about the lowest you will find.

I talked with her, told her she wasn't worth that and did a hard pass.

Be Safe.

[QUOTE=TommyArcher;4600746]Here's one that says she gets $800/ meet. Read the profile. It's worth it.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6a19d60a-a982-4068-8a38-101905ae8a22[/URL][/QUOTE]

Yep, been banned twice about 3-4 years ago when I was getting started. No talk about soliciting a lady, sexual acts, or fir me even money. My goal is to get them offline via text or social media as soon as possible to discuss specifics. I would wait a few weeks, create a new email address, new name and profile and use a different visa gift card that can be used internationally to sign up again. Enforcement seems to be selective for the ladies as some are very obvious and down right stupid, but for guys it seems to be stricter.

Be Safe.

[QUOTE=AznKilla;4600855]A SW I guess was new and offered in a convo GFE and I said sure. Next thing I know my account got banned because now I was soliciting, LOL. Anyone have experience with this? If I create a different account with a different email does it work around that? Do I need to use a diff cc too?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BurbsMonger;4601536]Yep, been banned twice about 3-4 years ago when I was getting started. No talk about soliciting a lady, sexual acts, or fir me even money. My goal is to get them offline via text or social media as soon as possible to discuss specifics. I would wait a few weeks, create a new email address, new name and profile and use a different visa gift card that can be used internationally to sign up again. Enforcement seems to be selective for the ladies as some are very obvious and down right stupid, but for guys it seems to be stricter.

Be Safe.[/QUOTE]I was just suspended / banned as well, after being on the site for about 8 years, on and off, with not one issue. Now they've blacklisted me and won't let me back on. I even tried using a different email and different credit card. I'm guessing I'll have to try a new email next time, as well as a prepaid credit card, as I'm guessing they link my name on my CC to their ban list.

If that doesn't work, does anybody have any other suggestions besides SA? I tried Secret Benefits, but that was a joke. Not 1 person replied back to me after I paid, not even the ones who messaged me first. I think that whole site is a racket. Has anybody else tried any of the other SD sites? Any luck with them? I know SA was the one I used from the beginning, and it seems like it is very popular with the women, but in light of being suspended by them, as well as their rates just keep going up and up (I remember when it was only $49/ mo and no recurring billing, and it is now $89/ mo with auto renewal each month), I'm looking at other options. I loved CL when it was around, as that was a goldmine, but maybe looking for another SD / SB website that people have good results from.

Thanks in advance.

I have been banned about 4-5 time over the past 10 years. Each time it gets harder and harder to get back on. This worked for me. VPN service. New email, profile, name, everything. They have also caught me using the same pic so use a new one. One Vanilla MC registered with a zip code. Create your profile and just park it for a few days as a non paying member. If they don't delete the profile then pay with the card.

[QUOTE=Socalcasualguy;4602204]I was just suspended / banned as well, after being on the site for about 8 years, on and off, with not one issue. Now they've blacklisted me and won't let me back on. I even tried using a different email and different credit card. I'm guessing I'll have to try a new email next time, as well as a prepaid credit card, as I'm guessing they link my name on my CC to their ban list.

If that doesn't work, does anybody have any other suggestions besides SA? I tried Secret Benefits, but that was a joke. Not 1 person replied back to me after I paid, not even the ones who messaged me first. I think that whole site is a racket. Has anybody else tried any of the other SD sites? Any luck with them? I know SA was the one I used from the beginning, and it seems like it is very popular with the women, but in light of being suspended by them, as well as their rates just keep going up and up (I remember when it was only $49/ mo and no recurring billing, and it is now $89/ mo with auto renewal each month), I'm looking at other options. I loved CL when it was around, as that was a goldmine, but maybe looking for another SD / SB website that people have good results from.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Newbie1961;4602359]I have been banned about 4-5 time over the past 10 years. Each time it gets harder and harder to get back on. This worked for me. VPN service. New email, profile, name, everything. They have also caught me using the same pic so use a new one. One Vanilla MC registered with a zip code. Create your profile and just park it for a few days as a non paying member. If they don't delete the profile then pay with the card.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice, much appreciated. I was thinking about waiting for a while, using a new email, Visa gift card, new pic and new screen name. I didn't think about using a VPN service.

You find any other SD sites besides SA, or are you like me, and think they seem to be the best option?

I use ExpressVPN but many are available. So its not a plug for that company. Remember an IP address is your fingerprint. Regarding SB if you read one of my post in another forum it is my opinion that it is one the biggest rip off sites out there. I have used it twice and will never return. Yes I know everybody hates Wade and his SA / WYP sites but SA is the only game for me. Any credit based site has less girls and never a good value. At least with SA I pay the house 3 bucks a day to message every girl on there if I want. SB is loaded with Fembots that do not really exist. You sit on you hands waiting before you spend credits on someone that might be fake or not work out. With SA you can carpet bomb every girl that you might be interested in with messages. I join for a month, fill up my dial-a-ho directory and take a break. I did my 30 days to catch the girls home on Holiday break and returning to school after. In 30 days I got 48 phone numbers and was able to fuck 11 new ones. I will try to work the rest of the numbers when my membership expires and I take a break for a while.

[QUOTE=Socalcasualguy;4602365]Thanks for the advice, much appreciated. I was thinking about waiting for a while, using a new email, Visa gift card, new pic and new screen name. I didn't think about using a VPN service.

You find any other SD sites besides SA, or are you like me, and think they seem to be the best option?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Newbie1961;4602511]I use ExpressVPN but many are available. So its not a plug for that company. Remember an IP address is your fingerprint. Regarding SB if you read one of my post in another forum it is my opinion that it is one the biggest rip off sites out there. I have used it twice and will never return. Yes I know everybody hates Wade and his SA / WYP sites but SA is the only game for me. Any credit based site has less girls and never a good value. At least with SA I pay the house 3 bucks a day to message every girl on there if I want. SB is loaded with Fembots that do not really exist. You sit on you hands waiting before you spend credits on someone that might be fake or not work out. With SA you can carpet bomb every girl that you might be interested in with messages. I join for a month, fill up my dial-a-ho directory and take a break. I did my 30 days to catch the girls home on Holiday break and returning to school after. In 30 days I got 48 phone numbers and was able to fuck 11 new ones. I will try to work the rest of the numbers when my membership expires and I take a break for a while.[/QUOTE]Agreed! That was my strategy as well. Get on for a month- message everyone that I had ANY interest in, then work my way through those numbers / women for a couple of months, or longer. When they all dried up / I got bored of them, then sign back up again. First ban in 7 years, so figured I'd enquire about other options and ways to get back on. Thanks for the info / advice!

It seems a lot of us use the same strategy. I have used express, ghost and norton vpn services all have been fine to use. When I got banned, I changed profile names, pics and discussion tactics, seems to have worked as I have not been banned in the past 3 years. As far as SB, I had limited success, found 2 SBs, both smoking hot, one I have been seeing regularly for 3 months and the other only saw 4 times before she ghosted me. Most of the time SB is crap with lots of fake bots. I believe SA has better value even at the monthly rate of 89 because you can go to town with unlimited messaging but it is a big time investment in order to bear any fruit.

Best of luck and stay safe.

[QUOTE=Socalcasualguy;4603955]Agreed! That was my strategy as well. Get on for a month- message everyone that I had ANY interest in, then work my way through those numbers / women for a couple of months, or longer. When they all dried up / I got bored of them, then sign back up again. First ban in 7 years, so figured I'd enquire about other options and ways to get back on. Thanks for the info / advice![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Newbie1961;4602511]I use ExpressVPN but many are available. So its not a plug for that company. Remember an IP address is your fingerprint. Regarding SB if you read one of my post in another forum it is my opinion that it is one the biggest rip off sites out there. I have used it twice and will never return. Yes I know everybody hates Wade and his SA / WYP sites but SA is the only game for me. Any credit based site has less girls and never a good value. At least with SA I pay the house 3 bucks a day to message every girl on there if I want. SB is loaded with Fembots that do not really exist. You sit on you hands waiting before you spend credits on someone that might be fake or not work out. With SA you can carpet bomb every girl that you might be interested in with messages. I join for a month, fill up my dial-a-ho directory and take a break. I did my 30 days to catch the girls home on Holiday break and returning to school after. In 30 days I got 48 phone numbers and was able to fuck 11 new ones. I will try to work the rest of the numbers when my membership expires and I take a break for a while.[/QUOTE]I got banned after being active for 6 months, and having an account for years. They gave the reason as soliciting sex for money. I'm careful about what I say and never mention any sex acts or even intimacy. I think that scammers reported me in retaliation after I made the mistake of calling them out. Platonics will report you too. A few times I asked a question of Platonics and they blocked me without answering. I have also noticed that SA considers it soliciting if you even mention PPM. They are trying to push this illusion of giving a big allowance at the beginning of the month, as if the SB would ever show up again. They are blocking IP addresses, they are also looking at other things, like the pictures, name, location, email, everything. It is clear to me that a human is doing it. I tried several times to set up a new account and a it would get approved and then a day later it gets deleted. I was using a VPN to change my IP as well. The last time I was in a different city, put that location, used a different picture, changed my birthday, different email, everything different and still it got deleted a day later. SA is totally over reacting to the new laws. Unfortunately it is the only game in town. WYP is a waste of time, same with SB, and several other sites. I'm trying Tinder but not much action so far. Just lots of Snapme's, Instagrammers, and Venmo me money now girls. During the 6 months when I reactivated after moving to a new town I viewed about 500 profiles, wrote at least 100 to 200 of them and met 22 girls in person and had a good time. It was a lot of work but paid off. Then I got fed up with the hundreds of Platonics and the scammers and told them off and got banned. Those types outnumber the real girls many times over. So I agree, stay low and just focus on finding the good ones. I still have enough to keep me busy. About 6 to 8 that will come back for a repeat, but I need a way to freshen the pot since they often move on.

[QUOTE=ErkTheOne;4571810]Was in the area for business recently and met up with second one on list. Was a bit of back and forth to get things scheduled, but it all came together finally. She is very sweet and friendly, and truly seemed to enjoy hanging out. Very pretty girl, and even better body than expected. Anal not on the table, but seemed open to everything else. BBFS no CIP because she said she is not on BC. Damage was 300, although could probably get her a little bit lower. Would definitely repeat if I was in the area.[/QUOTE]Yeah -- She's pretty hot. I'm only here for one night, so there's not a chance for her to be spontaneous. If you have contact info, I'd be happy to receive a PM!

Seen her a few times, girl next door quality is you don't mind all the ink.

Dtf from the get-go and rate was very reasonable. Was in fish town but was moving to center city area last I spoke to her.

BBBJ, cfs (let me go BBFS last time but no cip).

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/db595937-b4ee-49f7-8c3d-987301517647[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/fcd1efb9-3657-4ad4-9465-23e09784076d[/URL]

Reached out to her. She's has a vision involving 400 roses.

As an aside, just found this forum. Amazing resource. Thank you all. Intent to pay it forward.

[QUOTE=SportsMan331;4541363]I met her. Paid the Full Freight. It was worth every single penny. Great find. ANd yes, I look forward to seeing her again and again.

She is so sexy, dresses sexy, and made me feel happy, excited, and satisfied. Ill forget the cost over time, but not her. Recommend.[/QUOTE]


I might see her next week. Can I ask what the damage was?

https://www.seeking.com/member/b39a1554-36a7-42d3-b09a-95a2b4baa1c0

Hi, are you willing to share her digits? I no longer has a paid subscription to [URL]seeking.com[/URL]. Trying to see if you can help. Also, what are the damages and is that a incall or outcall?

[QUOTE=YellowLuvin;4537416]I've met with her. She is a semi-pro. Not as good as her pics but who actually is these days?[/QUOTE]