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[QUOTE=Make Shift]Thanks for the help. Here is another newbee question that definately is not on the forum. And raise may sum anger. I hope along with some understanding.
If I'm dis-robed and I'm constantly tipping the girl through out the sessions for good service. Where do I hold the money. Who is entrusted with my wallet? . If I'm holding cash in my fist that would definately prompt higher pricing.
Overcourse I can just jump head first into this massage stuff and may end-up having to file a Report on my stolen wallet.
Any ideas. Please pm me
Pm me[/QUOTE]A little common sense can go a long way. You have to pay the door fee up front. Whatever is agreed to after the door has closed should include whether you are tipping/donating before or after her companionship has commenced or completed. YMMV, it's all up to each individual situation. How bout you leave your wallet outside, locked in your vehicle and only take the cash that you are willing to dispose of. That way your report will not be about how your wallet was stolen, it'll be about how your experience was.
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Hey I don't have an aroma, lol.
[QUOTE=Haywoo Jablome]Don't be such a chistler, Imagine dealing with pawing drunk,drugged up, fat, cheap bastards all day who look like Jabba the hut on crack, and trying to find a way to be nice, and not barf by his hideous looks, and aroma. Let's see how long you last there buddy. Costs money to pay lawyers too when they get busted by the same LE that gets free services, then later shuts them down. No wonder these ladies become mercenaries. God bless them.[/QUOTE]
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Amen to what you are saying. I'm not new to the hobby, I have been in it for a little over 20 years (I started young, lol). I also don't post about every single event that takes place for me out there, so maybe that's shame on me, but we can't all assume that every new person to this forum is LE. Plus let's face the facts. LE already knows what is going on out there with or without our help. They have been doing raids & busts long before the internet and forums like this.
[QUOTE=Springer]Having been attacked some time ago when I posted a question on the forums as my first post I can relate to this-subsequent to that I have become a senior member-no big deal of course-
a person might well be a newbie here and have been a hobbiest for 30 years and likewise a person could have 100 posts here all just reporting girls he saw while driving around and take this as a license to attack new posters who start with a question-[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Make Shift]Im seeing a lot of bbj's and cbj's from AMP postings and reviews, but not any FS.' Does any AMP's offer FS?[/QUOTE]
In the sprite of this forum I'll post what I know and let the chips fall were they do.
Both Sunshine Spa in South Tampa & Ahola Spa in Clearwater provide FS reported by yours truly on this site.
It’s also rumored a couple places on Kennedy also provide the full monty, but haven’t had the time and money to check them out.
TT
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[QUOTE=Make Shift]Thanks for the help. Here is another newbee question that definately is not on the forum. And raise may sum anger. I hope along with some understanding.
If I'm dis-robed and I'm constantly tipping the girl through out the sessions for good service. Where do I hold the money. Who is entrusted with my wallet? . If I'm holding cash in my fist that would definately prompt higher pricing.
Overcourse I can just jump head first into this massage stuff and may end-up having to file a Report on my stolen wallet.
Any ideas. Please pm me
Pm me[/QUOTE]
Maybe try pulling it out of your ass?
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[QUOTE=Make Shift]Thanks for the help. Here is another newbee question that definately is not on the forum. And raise may sum anger. I hope along with some understanding.
If I'm dis-robed and I'm constantly tipping the girl through out the sessions for good service. Where do I hold the money. Who is entrusted with my wallet? . If I'm holding cash in my fist that would definately prompt higher pricing.
Overcourse I can just jump head first into this massage stuff and may end-up having to file a Report on my stolen wallet.
Any ideas. Please pm me
Pm me[/QUOTE]
I'm not PMing you, because you actually asked a decent question. I went through this when I started visiting shops. First, if you find yourself in a situation where you didn't get prices up front, your cash is still in your pants. Your pants don't leave the room, right? Second, find out what is available. Ask questions. You walk into an established shop, it's not likely you're walking into a sting. Third, this hobby has risks. If you can't handle them, don't play. I've never heard of a monger who walked into either an AMP or lingerie shop who had his wallet stolen, but there's plenty who've had escorts or SWs run with the cash. (Cue the mongers who have had their wallet stolen at an AMP.)
Finally, if you post here, you might want to grow some thicker skin. Inevitably, someone is going to find a way to say something about what you post that pisses you off. It's not worth getting your knickers in a knot.
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I make it easy. I leave my wallet in my vehicle. That way I. The. , credit cards, pictures of family, name and address are out of harms' way, relatively speaking. I go in with various amounts of cash in various pockets. One pocket has the house fee. The other 3 pockets have various amounts. I'm not sure it is a good idea to pull all of your cash out at one time and just give them some of it, because they then know that there's more to be had. The objective is to pay as much as you need to to get the job done, without overpaying. I guess Osaka ruined some of us, because no money was considered above the house fee until it was time to go. Other places, other people, seeing more money left, might be inclined to try to upsell you. That's my humble opinion, anyway.
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You shouldn't be "constantly tipping the girl throughout the session". In my experience with shops, you pay the door fee which is $60.$80 at an AMP and $30.$40 at a lingerie shop. The girl leaves the room, you disrobe and you leave the tip on an end table nearby. She comes back, eyeballs the tip and is either satisfied with it or wants more. You do a little bit of simple negotiating and then that's it. The business is done and you get on with the session. If she starts in again for more money, do what you gotta do and then report the upselling skank right here on this forum.
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[QUOTE=Make Shift]Thanks for the help. Here is another newbee question that definately is not on the forum. And raise may sum anger. I hope along with some understanding.
If I'm dis-robed and I'm constantly tipping the girl through out the sessions for good service. Where do I hold the money. Who is entrusted with my wallet? . If I'm holding cash in my fist that would definately prompt higher pricing.
Overcourse I can just jump head first into this massage stuff and may end-up having to file a Report on my stolen wallet.
Any ideas. Please pm me
Pm me[/QUOTE]How about don't bring you wallet in if your worried it will get stolen. Just bring the cash for your session, keep it in your pocket until the providers asks, and she will ask. Once you are a regular, you won't have this problem. I personally never take in my wallet.
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[QUOTE=Tampa Bum]I'm not PMing you, because you actually asked a decent question. I went through this when I started visiting shops. First, if you find yourself in a situation where you didn't get prices up front, your cash is still in your pants. Your pants don't leave the room, right? Second, find out what is available. Ask questions. You walk into an established shop, it's not likely you're walking into a sting. Third, this hobby has risks. If you can't handle them, don't play. I've never heard of a monger who walked into either an AMP or lingerie shop who had his wallet stolen, but there's plenty who've had escorts or SWs run with the cash. (Cue the mongers who have had their wallet stolen at an AMP.)
Finally, if you post here, you might want to grow some thicker skin. Inevitably, someone is going to find a way to say something about what you post that pisses you off. It's not worth getting your knickers in a knot.[/QUOTE]
I've been to places where you undress and put your clothes and wallet in a locker and take the key, but more usual is that you leave everything in the therapy room and then get walked around to the shower and steam rooms. I always figured if nothing else someone could look at my id, maybe copy some credit card numbers and send them halfway around the world, heck maybe copy my id to blackmail me later if i were worth the trouble. I just take the money I want to spend in with me and lock my wallet in the car.
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[QUOTE=Hardwood123]Maybe try pulling it out of your ass?[/QUOTE]
I was just kidding. You have received some good advice here and good advice for everyone. even those who didn't ask. Always only carry what you're planning to spend, with ANY date. Hmm, that might be a good idea for civilian dates as well!
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It was posted before about bringing you wallet or ID with you.
One if a bust does happen, If you have ID, you are more likely to be able to leave if you are not involved in any illegal activity. You are in a established business and you have no idea what is offered other than a massage.
Two: When you are escorted to the shower/sauna, another girl usually goes thru your wallet checking for ID. If you are out of town, or have no signs of LE, then your action will probably be more in hopes of what you would like.
This may not be fact?
But it does make since to me.
Even where you lock your belongings. They do have the master key.
So my suggestions is this.
Bring whatever cash you are willing to spend.
Have your ID.
Leave CC and Bank cards somewhere else .
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Some of the newer AMP's around the Midwest have waterproof bags available that you can put your valuables in. You take it with you to the sauna/shower.
Eagle out
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Osaka update
Went to Osaka yesterday No crs in the lot only girl I saw was Teddy. She gave a pretty good wash and massage All pretty normal for an AMP.
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[QUOTE=Eagle55]Some of the newer AMP's around the Midwest have waterproof bags available that you can put your valuables in. You take it with you to the sauna/shower.
Eagle out[/QUOTE]
This has really gotten out of control. All the AMP's in Tampa and the ones I've visited in my travels in the US are set up the same.
1. Your gonna be asked two questions at AMP’s by the mamasan. You want massage? You been here b4? Answer yes to both.
2. You pay your house fee b4 anything happens, usually when you’re escorted to your room.
3. Next your asked to get undressed and get ready for TS (table shower). They all have a plastic see-thru purse in the room, usually on the bed, shelf, or hanging from something. You put your valuables in there i.e. wallet, money, keys, watch. Your carry that bag and it stays with u at all times.
4. Tipping is usually conducted after the flip and b4 the main event. I’m a regular at a few places and simply leave a fair tip on the table b4 the massage, the girl notices it and nothing is discussed.
For further reading, there are several posters in other cities that post very detailed descriptions of their visits to AMP’s. Some of these reports could be used as a step-by-step guide for a newbie.
TT