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[QUOTE=Mcsylv;5744177]Yea a hot girl messaged you first.[/QUOTE]I didn't say hi. I went the extra effort with hii or heyyy.
Did you know the extra I or why means a higher degree of interest. Its funny how the younger generation texts.
Anyways, I hoped I didn't fuck up by asking the NYC to come down what happens if she's fugly. It's not about the cash now since it's spent but my time if she's fugly. I've to bang it 3 days in a row. Fuck.
[QUOTE=Arty33;5743946], including guys in their 20's, which I don't understand.[/QUOTE]Oi, I'm in my late 20's LOL. I just grew up in farmland PA until I was 22 and don't drink (thus don't go to bars) and never learned how to go about this thing otherwise. Some of us just don't have the required social skills, alright? LMAO.
That said, probably helps being attractive. I consider myself average, but girls have been making the move first on me as well. Setting up meets next week with a couple, but this one went through and I've seen a couple of times.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2b12e8fb-deb1-4e8b-8d96-9be0028dd72a[/URL]
Little heavier now than when her pics were taken, and last week she was being weird because as she out it "planets in retrograde", idk, she gives decent head and lets me paint her face with jizz so I put up with it.
[QUOTE=OrZammar;5744308]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2b12e8fb-deb1-4e8b-8d96-9be0028dd72a[/URL]
Little heavier now than when her pics were taken, and last week she was being weird because as she out it "planets in retrograde", idk, she gives decent head and lets me paint her face with jizz so I put up with it.[/QUOTE]Nice. What her PPM? I'm not going to go for her or anything I'm just curious.
[QUOTE=Arty33;5743946]Well, don't go entirely by what they say, because I get a lot of those "hey, handsome" and "you're handsome" messages as well, from those that I eventually meet. Those who apparently not interested won't say that. Even with that, I am not sure they mean it or just flattery. I know I look decent, definitely not overweight, is tall and trim, but on the older side, so I guess that passes for handsome on SA because a lot of SD's aren't. But I heard from SB there are all kinds of guys there, including guys in their 20's, which I don't understand. Although, I don't know how he is able to get NYC girls to come and meet him, because in my experience most girls have safety concerns going to another city to meet a SD they just met. The only person I met from NYC was after chatting with her for 3 plus weeks and getting to know fairly well and I paid for her train tickets upfront. Even then she was skeptical right until we met. Or perhaps the profile of girls he goes after is different from mine, and perhaps I need to expand my filters.[/QUOTE]I know right. It seems like that's what they use to try to make that $$.
I'm offering them that I'm not a serial killer and that the only thing I want to murder is their pussy. Verbatim!
[QUOTE=Delee1234;5744335]Nice. What her PPM? I'm not going to go for her or anything I'm just curious.[/QUOTE]We seemed to click the first time we met, I'm guessing YMMV, she seems like the type to ask / agree on an amount depending on how much she likes you. For me it was 200, thst was a few hours of BBBJ with deeothroat, facefucking and facials. I got 3 pops that day.
The 2nd say was only 1 pop, she was basically mute and the planet retrograde explanation was weirding me out.
[QUOTE=OrZammar;5744308]Oi, I'm in my late 20's LOL. I just grew up in farmland PA until I was 22 and don't drink (thus don't go to bars) and never learned how to go about this thing otherwise. Some of us just don't have the required social skills, alright? LMAO.
That said, probably helps being attractive. I consider myself average, but girls have been making the move first on me as well. Setting up meets next week with a couple, but this one went through and I've seen a couple of times.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2b12e8fb-deb1-4e8b-8d96-9be0028dd72a[/URL]
Little heavier now than when her pics were taken, and last week she was being weird because as she out it "planets in retrograde", idk, she gives decent head and lets me paint her face with jizz so I put up with it.[/QUOTE]She's a little heavier NOW? Her 2nd pic with the dog makes her look really fat already.
[QUOTE=Mcsylv;5744379]She's a little heavier NOW? Her 2nd pic with the dog makes her look really fat already.[/QUOTE]She isn't fat from the neck down, and if all they're doing is blowing me, they keep their clothes on anyway haha. I find it hotter with clothes on anyway, I got a partially clothed fetish I guess sue me haha.
[QUOTE=TomFordModel;5744264]I didn't say hi. I went the extra effort with hii or heyyy.
Did you know the extra I or why means a higher degree of interest. Its funny how the younger generation texts.
Anyways, I hoped I didn't fuck up by asking the NYC to come down what happens if she's fugly. It's not about the cash now since it's spent but my time if she's fugly. I've to bang it 3 days in a row. Fuck.[/QUOTE]Just make an excuse and leave, and go see your backup. I always try to have a backup just in case.
[QUOTE=TomFordModel;5744362]I know right. It seems like that's what they use to try to make that $$.
I'm offering them that I'm not a serial killer and that the only thing I want to murder is their pussy. Verbatim![/QUOTE]Listen the more you post those screenshots the more obvious it is that you're hot LOL. We're all on SA, we're all offering money, it's not like girls can tell how much we can really give and they know you can give a lot so they try to charm you.
No girls have ever said "I'm looking at the hottest man alive" to me LOL. Being fat is WAY worse than being old for a man. George Clooney, Jason Statham, Brad Pitt, Johnny Depp, and Daniel Craig are all over 50 and girls would fuck them for free in a heartbeat. They're probably even spend money to fuck them.
NYC is on. Fucking expensive uber ride from Brooklyn to Penn then the train.
[QUOTE=Mcsylv;5744857]Just make an excuse and leave, and go see your backup. I always try to have a backup just in case.
Listen the more you post those screenshots the more obvious it is that you're hot LOL. We're all on SA, we're all offering money, it's not like girls can tell how much we can really give and they know you can give a lot so they try to charm you.
No girls have ever said "I'm looking at the hottest man alive" to me LOL. Being fat is WAY worse than being old for a man. George Clooney, Jason Statham, Brad Pitt, Johnny Depp, and Daniel Craig are all over 50 and girls would fuck them for free in a heartbeat. They're probably even spend money to fuck them.[/QUOTE]Drastically inflate your net-worth and post couple pix with yachts, private jets, or exotic car and I'm willing to bet you'll get a lot of complements on your looks.
Old chicks are so dtf. LOL.
[QUOTE=Arty33;5743946]Well, don't go entirely by what they say, because I get a lot of those "hey, handsome" and "you're handsome" messages as well, from those that I eventually meet. Those who apparently not interested won't say that. Even with that, I am not sure they mean it or just flattery. I know I look decent, definitely not overweight, is tall and trim, but on the older side, so I guess that passes for handsome on SA because a lot of SD's aren't. But I heard from SB there are all kinds of guys there, including guys in their 20's, which I don't understand. Although, I don't know how he is able to get NYC girls to come and meet him, because in my experience most girls have safety concerns going to another city to meet a SD they just met. The only person I met from NYC was after chatting with her for 3 plus weeks and getting to know fairly well and I paid for her train tickets upfront. Even then she was skeptical right until we met. Or perhaps the profile of girls he goes after is different from mine, and perhaps I need to expand my filters.[/QUOTE]I'm on the younger side, heard I'm hot and successful. Sure I can go to a bar to pick up a girl but when you can afford it why waste the time. Spending a couple of hours at the bar buying drinks hoping to get laid. Spend the extra money and go for the guarantee with an SB is my philosophy. Isn't that why we are all on the site? With the time saved just work harder and make more money.
Had my last girl I posted about visit me from the Carolinas. Facetime for 30 min for 3 days, got her to feel comfortable and next thing you know I'm banging her for 3 days. Cost me a plane ticket and $500. It's possible.
[QUOTE=OrZammar;5744308]Oi, I'm in my late 20's LOL. I just grew up in farmland PA until I was 22 and don't drink (thus don't go to bars) and never learned how to go about this thing otherwise. Some of us just don't have the required social skills, alright? LMAO.
That said, probably helps being attractive. I consider myself average, but girls have been making the move first on me as well. Setting up meets next week with a couple, but this one went through and I've seen a couple of times.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2b12e8fb-deb1-4e8b-8d96-9be0028dd72a[/URL]
Little heavier now than when her pics were taken, and last week she was being weird because as she out it "planets in retrograde", idk, she gives decent head and lets me paint her face with jizz so I put up with it.[/QUOTE]Looks like she can play some serious O-line with that jersey on. Grateful that some of us have different tastes or else we'd all be going for the same girls.
[QUOTE=TomFordModel;5745458]Old chicks are so dtf. LOL.[/QUOTE]Ella could just be pulling the same weird bullshit she pulled with me. Also, someone should probably tell her the vast majority of the Middle East (which she certainly appeared to be from) is in Asia.
[QUOTE=Itfcd;5745632]Ella could just be pulling the same weird bullshit she pulled with me. Also, someone should probably tell her the vast majority of the Middle East (which she certainly appeared to be from) is in Asia.[/QUOTE]I literally don't care about that one. Age 25 and older has to be extraordinary for me to even consider.
Any info on her is highly appreciated.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/21ed9929-d014-4f2b-bda5-6b6a4d1442b0[/URL]
[QUOTE=Zerry;5745231]Drastically inflate your net-worth and post couple pix with yachts, private jets, or exotic car and I'm willing to bet you'll get a lot of complements on your looks.[/QUOTE]
But then I'd have to go rent a ferrari, sneak into a private airport with a private jet, and photoshop myself onto a yacht lol
Also if they're after money, there's no way they'd be visiting TomFord for a plane ticket and a hotel.
Here is my mental image of what at TomFordModel looks like. The Man in the image, the late Toshiro Mifune happens to be one of my all-time favourite Actors. Respect to you TFM for sharing your adventures here.
[QUOTE=Kpop1;5745597]I'm on the younger side, heard I'm hot and successful. Sure I can go to a bar to pick up a girl but when you can afford it why waste the time. Spending a couple of hours at the bar buying drinks hoping to get laid. Spend the extra money and go for the guarantee with an SB is my philosophy. Isn't that why we are all on the site? With the time saved just work harder and make more money.
Had my last girl I posted about visit me from the Carolinas. Facetime for 30 min for 3 days, got her to feel comfortable and next thing you know I'm banging her for 3 days. Cost me a plane ticket and $500. It's possible.[/QUOTE]Kpop. Just wanted to know if you got my DM. Appreciate your feedback / response.
[QUOTE=Mcsylv;5746101]But then I'd have to go rent a ferrari, sneak into a private airport with a private jet, and photoshop myself onto a yacht lol
Also if they're after money, there's no way they'd be visiting TomFord for a plane ticket and a hotel.[/QUOTE]I think you might be surprised if they feel the might land a really big fish. Also we never really know what people are promising or actually paying.
Fucking mad. Absolutely a fucking bust. Not only a waste of $ but the time expended to make this happened. I guess I was hoping for a great time like I had with the French girl.
Fuck! I'll take my time fielding if I decide to have any hoes come down now!
[QUOTE=Rouleur;5746277]Here is my mental image of what at TomFordModel looks like. The Man in the image, the late Toshiro Mifune happens to be one of my all-time favourite Actors. Respect to you TFM for sharing your adventures here.[/QUOTE]Not quite. That dude looks old as fuck. Maybe in 10 or 20 yrs.
I don't know how to identify what I look like. Some said I look like this dude. If that's true then why the fuck I'm not a model and getting pussy thrown at me.
[URL]https://www.google.com/search?q=Godfrey[/URL]+Gao&client=ms-android-samsung-gn-rev1&prmd=invx&sxsrf=AOaemvJkkfhVrHeSFqQrIHwlI0_LmNOzFg:1643219571570&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2 ahUKEwi3 iOf2_c_1 AhVal3 IEHeXcByIQ_AUoAXoECAIQAQ&biw=412&bih=786&dpr=2. 63.
[QUOTE=Kpop1;5745597]I'm on the younger side, heard I'm hot and successful. Sure I can go to a bar to pick up a girl but when you can afford it why waste the time. Spending a couple of hours at the bar buying drinks hoping to get laid. Spend the extra money and go for the guarantee with an SB is my philosophy. Isn't that why we are all on the site? With the time saved just work harder and make more money.
Had my last girl I posted about visit me from the Carolinas. Facetime for 30 min for 3 days, got her to feel comfortable and next thing you know I'm banging her for 3 days. Cost me a plane ticket and $500. It's possible.[/QUOTE]LOL. I looked thru some WGs SA. Yeah, I can say I'm not impressed. There are quite a few dudes with shirtless pics. Like come one. Of you're not fucking ripped or have a thin Calvin kloen model body. Leave your fucking shirt on. The hairy fuckers too.
Anyways, I think I might have seen your pics. If that's you. You're a pretty motherfucker. I hit it. I offer you $100. LOL.
[QUOTE=TomFordModel;5747044]Not quite. That dude looks old as fuck. Maybe in 10 or 20 yrs.
I don't know how to identify what I look like. Some said I look like this dude. If that's true then why the fuck I'm not a model and getting pussy thrown at me.
[URL]https://www.google.com/search?q=Godfrey[/URL]+Gao&client=ms-android-samsung-gn-rev1&prmd=invx&sxsrf=AOaemvJkkfhVrHeSFqQrIHwlI0_LmNOzFg:1643219571570&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2 ahUKEwi3 iOf2_c_1 AhVal3 IEHeXcByIQ_AUoAXoECAIQAQ&biw=412&bih=786&dpr=2. 63.[/QUOTE]You get more than anyone else on this forum.
I need to classes from you.
[QUOTE=WorkYard;5747559]You get more than anyone else on this forum.
I need to classes from you.[/QUOTE]I do get compliments on the hair and the way I dress.
The hair part is work. Need to do shit to stop the hair loss, dye the fucker so its not all white.
The bitches love to grab and pull it when I fuck them. I'm like WTF. You going to fucking pull it all out.
[QUOTE=Zerry;5746860]I think you might be surprised if they feel the might land a really big fish. Also we never really know what people are promising or actually paying.[/QUOTE]If they were far-sighted and patient enough to land a whale by playing the long game and getting nothing up front, and they're hot enough for TomFord, they wouldn't be sugar babies on SA. They'd be trophy wives to some rich millionaire or billionaire. Or a babymama to one of them and getting millions in child support.
[QUOTE=TomFordModel;5747035]Fucking mad. Absolutely a fucking bust. Not only a waste of $ but the time expended to make this happened. I guess I was hoping for a great time like I had with the French girl.
Fuck! I'll take my time fielding if I decide to have any hoes come down now![/QUOTE]What happened? She showed and wouldn't fuck? She showed and catfished you?
[QUOTE=WorkYard;5747559]You get more than anyone else on this forum.
I need to classes from you.[/QUOTE]Do you look like the dude TomFord linked? If so, ask him for advice about SA. If not, his advice would be generally useless to you.
Hot people get treated differently than regular people. I mean, he posted his conversations. Go hit up girls on SA with "You're gorgeous. I want" and "hii" as your openers and see if they give you the responses they gave him.
[QUOTE=TomFordModel;5748108]I do get compliments on the hair and the way I dress.
The hair part is work. Need to do shit to stop the hair loss, dye the fucker so its not all white.
The bitches love to grab and pull it when I fuck them. I'm like WTF. You going to fucking pull it all out.[/QUOTE]What do you use? I've been using minoxidil for year but just started using topical finasteride / Minoxidil. It's been only a month and I haven't seen the difference yet. I also wash the grey out. Just enough where I leave a bit around the temples so I don't look too weird.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4c6e5fb5-5d34-4310-839b-e778c8242431[/URL]
This one keeps trying to meet. Can't handle my existing rotation tho and sadly she doesn't make the cut.
Pros: low allowance requirements, pretty face + nice body, told me she was on the pill and let me dump inside her raw when I saw her.
Cons: high mileage, odor the last time we met, definitely not new to the game and maybe borderline pro.
Happy hunting fellahs.
[QUOTE=ProCatHunter;5648851][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4c6e5fb5-5d34-4310-839b-e778c8242431[/URL]
Reupped earlier this month and found this gem last week. Done with her now and will not be adding her to the regular roars toon so have fun gents. She is not new to the sugar scene and her allowance requirements are more in line with what I had been used to for DC years ago. She was fine with the $350 gift, and allowed for all access to all 3 holes uncovered. Pretty sure she is higher volume though. Saw her three times since we connected and the 3rd time we met she had the Odor of high volume of cum in the box. Decided to unload in the ass instead for the last playtime together. Wasn't her first time with rear play, but still tight nonetheless.
Have fun with her fellas.[/QUOTE]
Gents. Lots of talk about good looks, but my experience has been that it's more important to be Height Weight Proportionate. Women's taste in the appearance of men I've found varies significantly. Obviously if you look like Brad Pitt, than that's one thing and if you have a lazy eye and cleft palette it's entirely another.
For newer guys, who DGAF, and want profiles of girls messaging you about how handsome you are, all you have to do is change your profile settings to list as one of the higher income categories. Ladies use that search filter like we use body size and age.
When I started out, I played with different profile settings. I'm relatively certain that if you are HWP in your pics, put yourself down as single, and identify in one of the upper income bands, you'll start receiving lots of messages from SB profiles all around the country and world telling you how sexy you look and how they want to jump your bones. You'll also have to weed out a lot more scammers and bot accounts. And of course if you can't follow through with the profile settings (ie give a $1 k p / meet allowance and have a SO that only lets you out of the house during odd hours) you'll also find that not being accurate on your profile ends up wasting more of your time than anything.
I've also heard lots of stories from SBs about dudes who do this, promise the world, and then ghost w / o the allowance after banging the girl. Aside from the fact that it's a terrible thing to do and a shitty way to be; try not to be that guy for your own personal self interest. Especially since some of these girls are batshit crazy and might do stuff to make you regret the decision.
Oh. And before anyone reads into this post being some sort of passive aggressive way of calling out tomfordmodel, it's not. I've had plenty of encounters where I've gotten SB pussy for free (never with a gal from NYC tho. That's a tough nut to crack). The few times I've exchanged DMs with the guy, I've found his information to be credible, in addition to the info he's posted.
My one complaint is that he seems to have started a trend of posting pics rather than links to profiles. Let's stop with that fellahs. Links to profiles are so much easier to work with.
[QUOTE=BuffBill75;5748611]What do you use? I've been using minoxidil for year but just started using topical finasteride / Minoxidil. It's been only a month and I haven't seen the difference yet. I also wash the grey out. Just enough where I leave a bit around the temples so I don't look too weird.[/QUOTE]Fucking 6 months ago. I was missing a huge fucking patch of hair on the back. Maybe alopecia. So I fucking needled the bald spot and the shit grew back. It's all good now.
I use min and needle my fucking head. There's a whole group and topic on needling the head. It works for some and not for others.
[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/tressless/comments/ayedjk/microneedling_photo_results_summary/[/URL]
Met 3 new chicks in the last week and been having bad luck with running into smelly pussy. All 3 washed up before hitting the sack and still the odor. Not sure if they're not washing inside the pussy but only the outer layer. I mean these girls are glammed up and in good shape but still smelly pussy. I don't get it. Is anyone else dealing with this issue?
Tempted to travel to Argentina. Facetimed on Whatsapp and she's real. Wants $100 a day LOL. Maybe I should negotiate.
At that rate you could have parrillada and Argentinian pu**why until your dick falls off!
[QUOTE=Kpop1;5749291]Tempted to travel to Argentina. Facetimed on Whatsapp and she's real. Wants $100 a day LOL. Maybe I should negotiate.[/QUOTE]
I'm no longer in the bowl for lots of reasons, but I still follow a few of the areas.
My experience was that if you're HWP, average to above looking, not creepy, and had a bit of game you could do well. Free pussy happened about 10% of the time for me I'd guess. Sounds like the bowl has changed for the worse lately though.
I think don't be creepy is the biggest issue. Don't be the guy that's using SA as a replacement for Backpage. Don't treat them like a ho (even they are), they don't want to feel like it. Make it an adventure for them!
I was banging the young co-ed on the right for a good year- for free. One of you may recognize the pic as I think she was banging someone in the area prior to meeting me. If you recognize the pic, DM me with where she was going to school. If you know her, it'd be interesting to compare notes.
She was not local. Loved it raw, and was very bisexual. It lasted until she met some young dude near her. We stayed in touch for a while, but then one day she ghosted.
I remember banging one coed most of the night, and afterwards I offered her some cash. She turned it down, and said don't worry about it. It was always a fantasy to fuck an older guy!
[QUOTE=Kpop1;5749265]Met 3 new chicks in the last week and been having bad luck with running into smelly pussy. All 3 washed up before hitting the sack and still the odor. Not sure if they're not washing inside the pussy but only the outer layer. I mean these girls are glammed up and in good shape but still smelly pussy. I don't get it. Is anyone else dealing with this issue?[/QUOTE]You don't wash inside your pussy. Messes up the PH and makes it easier for you to get an infection.
Some women are naturally smellier. Their diet and water intake also affects it.
[QUOTE=Kpop1;5749291]Tempted to travel to Argentina. Facetimed on Whatsapp and she's real. Wants $100 a day LOL. Maybe I should negotiate.[/QUOTE]Yea, pussy is cheap overseas. I didn't think this was new, that's why dudes visit Thailand and South America. It's cheaper than America even in other first world countries like the UK, Germany, and Australia.
Only places I know are comparable in price are Canada because it's roughly the same market and girls, and maybe Dubai / Monaco / another rich small country.
[QUOTE=BikeRider;5749416]I'm no longer in the bowl for lots of reasons, but I still follow a few of the areas.
My experience was that if you're HWP, average to above looking, not creepy, and had a bit of game you could do well. Free pussy happened about 10% of the time for me I'd guess. Sounds like the bowl has changed for the worse lately though.
I think don't be creepy is the biggest issue. Don't be the guy that's using SA as a replacement for Backpage. Don't treat them like a ho (even they are), they don't want to feel like it. Make it an adventure for them!
I was banging the young co-ed on the right for a good year- for free. One of you may recognize the pic as I think she was banging someone in the area prior to meeting me. If you recognize the pic, DM me with where she was going to school. If you know her, it'd be interesting to compare notes.
She was not local. Loved it raw, and was very bisexual. It lasted until she met some young dude near her. We stayed in touch for a while, but then one day she ghosted.
I remember banging one coed most of the night, and afterwards I offered her some cash. She turned it down, and said don't worry about it. It was always a fantasy to fuck an older guy![/QUOTE]
On the flip side, if you're fat as fuck like me, it doesn't really matter how you act towards them. Being fat is much worse than being old, unless you're 70 or something. 54 and fit is infinitely more desirable to women than 35 and BMI 40.
It's actually interesting because I don't treat SA girls like hookers unless they act like obvious pros, and when I talk to girls they always say I'm a good at conversing, interesting, etc. The issue is, I've never had a girl want to fuck for free. Or had a girl supposed to meet up for a bit in the evening and she volunteers to sleep over. Every minute of time in the bedroom is compensated in my experience.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/579d95c0-6af0-459c-987d-5addef2da47e[/URL]
I know there was some talk about this girl a little while back. Anyone been with this girl anytime from Nov 2021 through now? If so, PM me, I'm talking to her too and I have a question for you.
My research on OF shows that she also does girl-girl, with a Crystal City Restaurant dancer. Perhaps she does F-F-M. I'll be that she does.
https://onlyfans.com/margueritebby
DM.
[QUOTE=Mcsylv;5749448][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/579d95c0-6af0-459c-987d-5addef2da47e[/URL]
I know there was some talk about this girl a little while back. Anyone been with this girl anytime from Nov 2021 through now? If so, PM me, I'm talking to her too and I have a question for you.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kpop1;5749291]Tempted to travel to Argentina. Facetimed on Whatsapp and she's real. Wants $100 a day LOL. Maybe I should negotiate.[/QUOTE]Damn, that's what I need. NYC pics gave me the impression of the Argentina but she was not.
I'd have a better time jerking off to her pics. At least her tits are perky like the pics and didn't have any funky pussy.
[QUOTE=Decadentme;5749488]My research on OF shows that she also does girl-girl, with a Crystal City Restaurant dancer. Perhaps she does F-F-M. I'll be that she does.
https://onlyfans.com/margueritebby
DM.[/QUOTE]How's she doing? I may have to hit her again, saw her last year few times and fucked her brains out, she loves it, then sort of went after others. She's a sweet girl, but a bit weird and clingy.
[QUOTE=Kpop1;5749265]Met 3 new chicks in the last week and been having bad luck with running into smelly pussy. All 3 washed up before hitting the sack and still the odor. Not sure if they're not washing inside the pussy but only the outer layer. I mean these girls are glammed up and in good shape but still smelly pussy. I don't get it. Is anyone else dealing with this issue?[/QUOTE]What your smelling is the stench of other dudes cum. It throws off the PH. Douching only gets out so much.