Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

Originally Posted by CameronX [ / ViewOriginalPostNever, Imeanneverevercallthehotelinwhichsomeoneisoperatingoutofjustbecauseyouweren'tabletobustanutthatday] (sorry for the crude choice of words but that is the bottom line in this scenario). There are plenty of providers that he could have called following that failed visit who would have taken good care of him.[Letthisonego, revengeisnotthesolution, toomanyinnocentpeoplecouldbeeffectedbyyourchoiceinthematter.].

I feel his pain. CameronX that's pointing him in the right direction. Great gals like you are waiting on him to help and see He gets a great time. Time and patience solve most problems.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2073220]All that stuff for the USASG is coming. We aren't going to be fucking around with the free part, there will always be a free membership with pretty much the same features available now. We want to develop more features, mobile, more robust search, maybe live regional chat, along with other stuff for a subscription level membership which would include avatars.

I'm talking to el Jeffe about putting a donation button on the forum, with one or two levels. Level one would give them a different user title like "Contributing Member" or something like that. Level two would have a different title and gets avatars.

Reviews are the lifeblood of the site so we always want the guy sitting in front of his computer to be able to do that for free, but for power users who want more functionality, we want them to be able to have it as well but developing that shit's expensive, and well, we all want to fly private someday. Imagine a trip to the actual Greek islands with Sasha and CC on a private plane. (Cue dream sequence).

Paypal will never be an option, those fucks stole our money and still have it. Maybe someday in the future there will be a USASG CCBilling, payment processor that won't penalize sites that are engaged in adult activity.

A2.[/QUOTE]The classified ads should definitely cost something, which would clean them up in terms of the number of posts and probably improve the experience for everyone. Of course, you'll have to be even more vigilant about keeping advertising out of the other forums, and that might have a cost. The one thing that might be useful to me would be a better search function, though you just come to expect a good search function to be basic functionality for a site (even if the adult sites rarely deliver this). Avatars and special titles mean nothing to me. And there's just going to be some resistance to paying -- more from having a financial account of any kind attached to a site like this than the actual money.

But, all in all, if there were some kind of one-time fee, or at least no more than annual, without an automatic rebill, that could be paid through some anonymous electronic means, then I'd pay for better search and filtering options. That latter part especially if I could find terms that would eliminate a lot of stuff that you have to wade through on the site. And not have to wait X seconds between searches and such.

Avatars for advertisers / providers that would be linked to their reviews or any commentary would be great, not unlike NR, which I find easy to navigate despite any other flaws it may have. They're the ones I could see paying extra for avatars. And I'm sure there are guys on here whose egos are stroked in such a way by the idea that it would appeal to them as well.

But, bottom line, if you actually had advertising that was both paid and moderated, that could pretty much make you heroes. The moderation would actually add value for the advertisers too, and the legit ones should be willing to pay more for it.

You might well drive BP out of business. Then all the do-gooders would shift their focus to you. And you may not care, since you have no ties to Goldman Sachs or any legitimate publishing enterprise. But once the evil eye of do-gooderism finds you, it's not always comfortable, and soon you have USA Paratroopers combing Argentina in search of your servers.

[QUOTE=SinfulDreams;2072676]A little lengthy, sorry but I want you to get all the info. I did post this on another board, but interested in feedback.

I would like your opinion on something that happened to me last week. I had a regular that wanted to set up an advanced appt. I had another provider tell me before that when it was time for the appt he didn't answer and so on, but then another one saw him and things went fine. So I kept asking if anything had changed once or twice and what location he wanted me to come to. Then the day before he asks for a duo. Okay, no problem. So I go through finding a duo partner and I do. He gives me the room number and says 9:30 PM, and I let him know we could be there earlier. He says 9:00 PM is the soonest he can be there. We go and eat, and I pull it at 8:55 PM. I text him and said we are here, so just let me know when you are ready. At 9:08 PM I sent a? Mark. No response on either. At 9:13 PM I call and no answer. At 9:35 PM I said Seriously? You are going to do this? At 9:45 PM I call him and he answers. I said umm where are you? We have been in the parking lot since 8:55 PM and I even texted you several times. He said why didn't you just knock on the door, I had been there since 8:30 PM. I said first of all I am not going to do that because you weren't supposed to be in the room until 9:00 PM. Then I asked him where he was, if he was here and he said he left..Then I said well how long will it take you to get back here. He said 30 minutes. I said I am not waiting that long as I have been up way early, and I made sure to be awake and vibrant for this duo. He said well how about you come to Belterra tomorrow and I will make it up to you. I said I wanted a 20% deposit and sure no problems. He said he would take care of it the next day. I texted him the next day, and he tells me he got a DUI, and why didn't I just knock on the door the night before, as I guess the DUI is now my fault. I told him I want the money for driving out there and wasting my time, and he said he would meet me at such and such time. Then he tells me what I asked for isn't right and I would be lucky to get $150. Now his phone is changed imagine that.

My question is, would you have expected a provider to knock on your door at 9 if you weren't supposed to be there til then, and you didn't even answer when I called?? I honestly think he was never there, but just by observation on how I read people. The professional thing to do in his case would've been to text or call me when he was there, and then I would've went in. I am not going to do that until then since I am just that...professional.[/QUOTE]I think you absolutely did the right thing. If I'm seeing a lady, I'll always make contact once I have arrived at the predesignated location. That's common courtesy and I have come to find out, expected and accepted etiquette. I sincerely doubt the veracity of his story and strongly believe that the was no where near the hotel. He would have been bombing your phone with texts and calls if you hadn't arrived at the agreed upon time. I mean really, the time arrives and he's just sitting there playing tiddly winks or stroking his johnson. Nah baby Nah.

Luv.

Nah, they wouldn't send troopers, they would just send an illegal black ops team to invade BA and kidnap you, then snake you out to some ass backward country where they can torture you for the info on where the servers are.

Cheech.

I just answered this on the Massholes thread. So to put everybody at ease. What members now have at the USA Sex Guide will always be free. A guy sitting in front of a computer writing a review connecting with other guys that write reviews, always free, it's the lifeblood of our business. We want to continue to improve that, even on the free side. But really serious improvements cost a shit ton of fucking money, so they will have to cost money.

Think about search, I think developing a form to input data would be a great idea. That way you could search for skinny, blonde, girl friendly, 30 year olds without a gag reflex (tell you anything about me) I want to eventually have a form like that for the providers on the new site to fill out, except I think a lot of them would be less than truethful. But that's where we have a step up because we are the most KICK ASS review site in the world. We want USASG and USAAC to work hand in hand. If some chick makes a membership there, she could have a link that says "Look for my reviews on the USASG" click on that and you get a list of her reviews here.

At this point we are just tossing ideas around without even a timeline for the future of the USASG. I personally (not the godlike presence on the forum, but me) think the number for subscribers needs to be between 10 and 20 bucks a month or a serious discount, 80-120 a year. I personally, don't want to give guys premium access for writing reviews. I know that flies in the face of the market but I (personally) want serious fucking mongers involved. I want guys that do 2-3 dates a month, that understand that next to a great BBBJ the most important thing in this hobby is Timely, Accurate, Reliable information. If a guys is willing to spend 300-800 bucks a month for pussy, and his 10-20 dollar investment here brings him one good date, or allows him to avoid one bad one then the site has paid for itself for a year. I don't even want mongers that don't understand that involved as subscribers. When people value something they take better care of it.

Like I said above, there will always be an improving free side, always, no question. None of this "hidden good parts" shit like TER. The majority of guys will be going there.

But there also might be a closed subscriber side, it will be a lot less guys, but the info will be better and the bullshit less.

As far as the paratroopers or black ops squad, I know a couple chicks that would distract them.

[QUOTE=Cheech1;2073453]Nah, they wouldn't send troopers, they would just send an illegal black ops team to invade BA and kidnap you, then snake you out to some ass backward country where they can torture you for the info on where the servers are.

Cheech.[/QUOTE]I'm already there, I currently live in an ass backwards country.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2073530]I'm already there, I currently live in an ass backwards country.[/QUOTE]It's an assbackwards country with an inexhaustible supply of inexpensive and gorgeous women. So theres that.

[blue]Yeah there is that.[/blue]

[QUOTE=SinfulDreams;2073830]A2 I am all for it. I pay quite a bit for some ads already on other boards, but that is where a lot of my business comes from so I don't mind. I would agree with the gift card thing such as a prepaid. However, with certain cards such as Green Dot, IF they find out you are using it for Adult Related Services, they will freeze your money and ban you. I guess depending on if you could mask what the charge would go through as would definitely help. I know Eros goes through as DSP...and nobody knows what that means, although if they wanted to they could look into it.

Hopefully it will weed out some of the ones who don't really want to be in this, and the cash and dash, and such. I know I am all for that.[/QUOTE]But one of the things we are kicking around is verifying to cut out bait and switch. Essentially we would do some kind of quick video interview with the advertiser while we have their pics up on our screen. We look at them, look at the pics, if we are reasonably certain it's them, we annotate the ad or pic somehow. We wouldn't be saying that if you go to see this girl that she opens the door, we would just be saying, we saw her, these pics are the chick we saw. As long as she used the "verified" option that would be a small upcharge on her ad. Not sure what we are going to do in the event that it's the chick, but the pics were 10 years and 50 lbs ago though.

We are also planning on using chrome to mod so we can right click and do the google image search, all pics that came back as K-Pop stars would be deleted and "thank you very much for the money.".

The biggest complaint BY FAR on BP is bait and switch. We would allow chicks to use pics that were "representative" of themselves so long as that was disclosed. Then it would be up to the reviewers to either corroborate or vilify the claim.

Ally when you get to the shopping cart you're going to think, "Seriously, that's all they want?

There's a lot of providers in the states, good fucking providers, we want our reputation to be one of honesty, integrity, VALUE, and security. We will have some kind of generic name for CC processing as well. Nobody wants to get something on their statement that says FindaHo. When we are successful at that I'll be showing up at CVG in a pimped G-5, platform shoes, fur coat, and a big hat.

Argentina might be ass backwards, but to the best of my knowledge they haven't been accepting torture subjects from the US Govt, like some of the stans have been.

Regarding the expansion plans, I think you're on the right track. The payment situation is going to be a problem, though. You might have to set up a front operation down there, a hat and glove store or something, leather goods, I don't know, to keep the bluenose assholes from gumming up the works. You could set something up here in the States, but then the transfer is a problem; and they'll want to tax your ass, etc, and also subject to subpoena, so that won't work. Maybe a charity of some sort, save the hookers or something. .

Cheech.

[QUOTE=Stormyoneonly;2072950]He is now automatically on my DNA list. Thank you so much for your information Blake. Be safe.

Much Love,

Stormy.[/QUOTE]Not a problem. I'm happy this reached you doll. Stay Stay safe.

Blake.

Hey A2. What we need is a chat board. I'm sitting here nearly 11:00. Smoking cigar and having a fine glass of chard. Can't get anyone to talk to. We need a chat board for late night guys like me. Would like to hear from Cincinnati guys and gals who stay up late.

[QUOTE=Glockman;2075622]Hey A2. What we need is a chat board. I'm sitting here nearly 11:00. Smoking cigar and having a fine glass of chard. Can't get anyone to talk to. We need a chat board for late night guys like me. Would like to hear from Cincinnati guys and gals who stay up late.[/QUOTE]It's one of the features we are thinking about adding. Live regional chat. Though we are talking about it as part of a subscription packet.

No that doesn't mean that this part of the USASG is not going to be free.

[b]WE AREN'T PLANNING ON CHANGING ANYTHING HERE.[/b] We are thinking about stuff we could do in the future to have a free and subscription level. [b]IT'S ONLY AN IDEA NOW, NO YOU WON'T HAVE TO PAY TO READ THE FORUM.[/b].

I have to put that in bold and caps so I don't get a million emails from guys.

A2.

[QUOTE=Glockman;2075622]Hey A2. What we need is a chat board. I'm sitting here nearly 11:00. Smoking cigar and having a fine glass of chard. Can't get anyone to talk to. We need a chat board for late night guys like me. Would like to hear from Cincinnati guys and gals who stay up late.[/QUOTE]And here is where the like button would have come in extremely handy. Great idea Glockman.

Luv.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2073220]

Paypal will never be an option, those fucks stole our money and still have it. Maybe someday in the future there will be a USASG CCBilling, payment processor that won't penalize sites that are engaged in adult activity.

A2.[/QUOTE]You do know there was a class action suit they lost a few years back that forced them to release all those held funds and to return penalties charged to adult oriented businesses, right? You folks should look into getting your money back. I got everything back and have been doing just fine using them without a hitch with my adult oriented side business. Essentially when eBay bought them, they had a hard time reconciling sanctions against adult businesses, when eBay actually sells as much adult material as it does regular merchandise. Once they saw the bottom line they changed their tune and now welcome adult businesses with open arms.