As difficult as it is to control, I stick to HJ at all costs as well. I've had friends partake in extras and a few have wound up with some sort of issue which is reason enough for me to only require manual.
[QUOTE=Gnucleaire]Saw this on another site. Sounds worse than swine flu. And he dropped the dime on the place!
It's a place in Irvine I've been to. One of the reasons why I stick to HJ.[/QUOTE]