I just went by Venom today and it looks like it's closed. Has anyone heard anything as of yet?
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I just went by Venom today and it looks like it's closed. Has anyone heard anything as of yet?
Today's adventure started at Venom, around 2 PM. Pulled into the parking lot & even by its standards Venom was dead. Went to the door. Sure enough it was locked. Figured maybe they've just gone back to the 3 PM opening. Killed some time at the boat. Action was actually OK, but I didn't see any of my faves. Left after a short while, & headed back to Venom. Unfortunately, the parking lot was just as dead. Fuck!
I really wanted to see Jamaica or Mulan. Remembered a review from several months back mentioning Jamaica working at Love Cabaret. Checked my phone & Love is now open at 11. Sure enough, I spotted Jamaica. The bad news is she was with a customer. The good news is that her friend, Serenity, saw me & quickly came over. Serenity has been dancing for several years. AA, probably early thirties, attractive face, & a very sexy body. We headed to the cabanas & it was a HR.
When I started today's adventure Love Cabaret wasn't evemy mind. Now, it will probably be my go to spot. The pup so that you really should just stick with the cabanas. Floordances are $25. Cabanas are $120/15 min & $240/30 min. Venom is undergoing remodeling. Jamaica said she plans on returning when it reopens, probably early next year. Hopefully business there will pick up. Curves should take a cue & have set, reasonable prices for their 30 minute room. The prices are exorbitant. Doubt that side of the club even gets business most days.
[QUOTE=MongerLuv69;6956410]She is very hot especially in VIP. YMMV though until second visit after she gets to know you. She is 6'2' and I am 6'5" so being tall is helpful. She is sharp and intelligent. Great person and fun. She is on my list of favorites. Give her a chance but take it slow.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the extra intel on her. Sadly I might have already burned that bridge. We'll see if she remembers on my next visit. She did circle back later (after I've already got 2 floor dances) and I turned her down.
Stopped by Tens. Certainly wasn't expecting much. 1 dancer on duty. Doesn't even do personal dances. GMAFB. Just padlock the doors & sell.
Stopped this afternoon. Really cute girl on stage. Short with medium real tits. Got her to my table. It was her first day and I was her first customer. We chatted a bit and for a 22 year old she actually held an intelligent conversation. She did an unbelievable sexy dance. I questioned her about where she learned all this super sexy moves. She said her sister works at Curves and trained her. Her name is Beatrice and I will see her again.
Ran into Unique from Venom, she is now Fantasy at the Boat. She is of the opinion that there are no plans to remodel Venom, its permanently closed.
[QUOTE=ShakenGrind;6965249]Stopped by Tens. Certainly wasn't expecting much. 1 dancer on duty. Doesn't even do personal dances. GMAFB. Just padlock the doors & sell.[/QUOTE]Thanks for letting us know- with Venom closed right now it's good to know that Tens is still as bad as it's been for at least eight years. I know the Boat is picking up with Venom closed.
Has anyone been to Curves since Venom closed indefinitely for remodeling?
[QUOTE=FeyWolf;6971700]Ran into Unique from Venom, she is now Fantasy at the Boat. She is of the opinion that there are no plans to remodel Venom, its permanently closed.[/QUOTE]Is she working daytime at the boat?
[QUOTE=TucsonMonger;6976875]Is she working daytime at the boat?[/QUOTE]Yes, daytime, she was getting ready to leave when I got there around 4. I asked what days she was working and she said most days over summer.
I just heard from a regular at Curves that they increased dance prices effective today - $20 floor dances and $35 in VIP. Of course most of this is going to a bigger house cut, so the dancers don't make much more money. This is an insane increase for the Tucson market, and will keep guys away. I was there at noon yesterday, and there were maybe a half dozen customers and probably a dozen or more girls. It seems to me that management is trying to put themselves out of business. These increases are even higher than their sister club in Phoenix (HiLiter - same owners) where floor dances are $10, and VIP dances are $30 and $40 after 9 pm.
As a club regular, this really pisses me off, and will keep me away at least for awhile. Have no idea if this is also being done at Raiders.
Makes zero sense. This is the SLOW time of year; bet good $ it's fake news.
Check with a manager what "the house price is" for floor dances. Then, if I'm right, tell your regular to f-o.
[QUOTE=ArizonaJunkie;6977372]I just heard from a regular at Curves that they increased dance prices effective today - $20 floor dances and $35 in VIP. Of course most of this is going to a bigger house cut, so the dancers don't make much more money. This is an insane increase for the Tucson market, and will keep guys away. I was there at noon yesterday, and there were maybe a half dozen customers and probably a dozen or more girls. It seems to me that management is trying to put themselves out of business. These increases are even higher than their sister club in Phoenix (HiLiter - same owners) where floor dances are $10, and VIP dances are $30 and $40 after 9 pm.
As a club regular, this really pisses me off, and will keep me away at least for awhile. Have no idea if this is also being done at Raiders.[/QUOTE]
Unique / Fantasy stopped by. She's looking real good, the body especially. Had an outstanding time in the VIP.
Dances at the boat are now $15/30. I don't have a real problem with that. Floorside dances were raised to $10 over a decade ago. There's certainly been lots of inflation since then. $20/35 is too much, especially for a mostly low mileage club like Curves.
I don't know, the regular I heard this from is a long term veteran at this club, and I've known her more than 10 years. She referred to a written memo with the new prices, distributed by management when the club opened today. I have no problem with people asking management, but she has high credibility with me.
[QUOTE=SumGai;6977552]Makes zero sense. This is the SLOW time of year; bet good $ it's fake news.
Check with a manager what "the house price is" for floor dances. Then, if I'm right, tell your regular to f-o.[/QUOTE]
I ran into Ferrari, and she told me she will be back at Raiders today. She is looking really good and said she will be there when they open.
[QUOTE=ArizonaJunkie;6977372]I just heard from a regular at Curves that they increased dance prices effective today - $20 floor dances and $35 in VIP. Of course most of this is going to a bigger house cut, so the dancers don't make much more money. This is an insane increase for the Tucson market, and will keep guys away. I was there at noon yesterday, and there were maybe a half dozen customers and probably a dozen or more girls. It seems to me that management is trying to put themselves out of business. These increases are even higher than their sister club in Phoenix (HiLiter - same owners) where floor dances are $10, and VIP dances are $30 and $40 after 9 pm.
[/QUOTE]This price increases would not surprise me considering the fact that most these bitches lie about how much the actual price is when trying to get you to buy one.
I stopped in for a great western bacon cheeseburger. A good looking blonde with a very nice body approached me. She asked if I wanted a dance. I asked her price for a table dance. She said 20 bucks each. I told her that was too much and to move along. Then a gal that was decent looking asked if I wanted a dance. She said 15 bucks each. I replied 3 for 40 bucks. She sgreed. Very good dances. Reciprocal crotch rubbing etc. So in 9 minutes she made 40 dollars. The gal that wanted 20 bucks each was still looking for some fool to suck money out of. She is not very smart.
Got crosswise with Cuban Monserrat because she always was $10. Yesterday charges $15. Pissed because I gave her reluctantly $15. Said where is my tip. She just removed herself from my dancer list with that attitude. I ask first thing and send them away immediately if over $10. Even if they agree to $10. They usually give a crappy dance and expect a tip. I am standing fast. I do pay 12 or 13 usually anyway and if really good hit $15.
We should stand fast on $10. Sending enough of them away will gat the message. Watch one really young one demand $20. She went down the back wall and four old guys sent he away. She did not get $40 which we all would have paid. Biggest offenders seem to be the gos under 25 year olds. That is why I usually do older dancers. Also because the can talk and have a personality.
[QUOTE=MongerLuv69;6979633]Got crosswise with Cuban Monserrat because she always was $10. Yesterday charges $15. Pissed because I gave her reluctantly $15. Said where is my tip. She just removed herself from my dancer list with that attitude. I ask first thing and send them away immediately if over $10. Even if they agree to $10. They usually give a crappy dance and expect a tip. I am standing fast. I do pay 12 or 13 usually anyway and if really good hit $15.
We should stand fast on $10. Sending enough of them away will gat the message. Watch one really young one demand $20. She went down the back wall and four old guys sent he away. She did not get $40 which we all would have paid. Biggest offenders seem to be the gos under 25 year olds. That is why I usually do older dancers. Also because the can talk and have a personality.[/QUOTE]I think they can get more than $10 as the per-dance rate from customers who are used to strip clubs in other cities. My experience is that dancers who want more than the club rate per dance do not provide much, a dancer who asks ten per dance and knows she can get more money in tips will provide better dances. But if you're used to strip clubs in Las Vegas or Los Angeles or most other cities, fifteen or twenty for a mediocre dance might be the norm. All we can do is pass on dancers asking for more than the house rate, and keep tipping generously for good service.
Hit the boat and a long time fav confirmed mgmt is dumber than dirt.
Showed me pic of a 3 pg posting in the locker room.
Since girls are asking for extra. And some of us are paying it. Floor dances $15 & VIP $30. Thanks Guys!!
But as always, girls can charge what they want. The new tip out for floor dances is $1. 50 instead of $1. VIP is $3 tip out front and three more dollars at the end of the night. $1 increase over the $25 price tip-out. So, offering to pay $25 for two is my new norm for unfamiliar dancers.
Side note. Tii. In 1 hour Fri night I maybe saw 5 dances on the floor and VIP was empty. Girls going to get hungry!
Are.
[QUOTE=SumGai;6977552]Makes zero sense. This is the SLOW time of year; bet good $ it's fake news.
Check with a manager what "the house price is" for floor dances. Then, if I'm right, tell your regular to f-o.[/QUOTE]
Finally got to curves Fri and a mgr I know was on duty. Confirmed house prices went up to $15 on the floor and $30 VIP. Matches Raider's.
The $20/$35 quotes are dancer bs trying to inflate their "worth" by charging $5 more than the house prices. Fuck them!
FWIW 1- parking lot was empty by Fri standards and lots of girls sitting together at tables. Good to see!
FWIW 2 - several sources say girls at RR have been fined by undercover LE. No specifics on who, how many, just "doing extra" - but dance mileage will be low if dancer doesn't know you and floor dances may be watched / interrupted if too handsy.
FWIW 3 - Owner Bob may be trying to buy Venom.
[QUOTE=SumGai;6980284]Hit the boat and a long time fav confirmed mgmt is dumber than dirt.
Showed me pic of a 3 pg posting in the locker room.
Since girls are asking for extra. And some of us are paying it. Floor dances $15 & VIP $30. Thanks Guys!!
But as always, girls can charge what they want. The new tip out for floor dances is $1. 50 instead of $1. VIP is $3 tip out front and three more dollars at the end of the night. $1 increase over the $25 price tip-out. So, offering to pay $25 for two is my new norm for unfamiliar dancers.
Side note. Tii. In 1 hour Fri night I maybe saw 5 dances on the floor and VIP was empty. Girls going to get hungry!
Are.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SumGai;6986102]Finally got to curves Fri and a mgr I know was on duty. Confirmed house prices went up to $15 on the floor and $30 VIP. Matches Raider's.
The $20/$35 quotes are dancer bs trying to inflate their "worth" by charging $5 more than the house prices. Fuck them!
FWIW 1- parking lot was empty by Fri standards and lots of girls sitting together at tables. Good to see!
FWIW 2 - several sources say girls at RR have been fined by undercover LE. No specifics on who, how many, just "doing extra" - but dance mileage will be low if dancer doesn't know you and floor dances may be watched / interrupted if too handsy.
FWIW 3 - Owner Bob may be trying to buy Venom.[/QUOTE]Interesting news, thanks for sharing. I hope Bob's effort to buy Venom doesn't lead to increased enforcement at Curves and RR. I remember when this group was trying to buy Centerfolds in Phoenix. The new liquor license application resulted in major enforcement actions at Hi Liter. If they are going to keep Venom nude, then a liquor license won't be an issue, but if they want to serve booze it will likely be a long haul for them.
[QUOTE=ArizonaJunkie;6987583]Interesting news, thanks for sharing. I hope Bob's effort to buy Venom doesn't lead to increased enforcement at Curves and RR. I remember when this group was trying to buy Centerfolds in Phoenix. The new liquor license application resulted in major enforcement actions at Hi Liter. If they are going to keep Venom nude, then a liquor license won't be an issue, but if they want to serve booze it will likely be a long haul for them.[/QUOTE]Since when is Venom nude? Did I miss something?
[QUOTE=AzHeadHunter;6989422]Since when is Venom nude? Did I miss something?[/QUOTE]My bad, I thought Venom was nude but it is not. Thanks for the correction! However, this confirms that the owners of Curves will have an uphill battle with the liquor license.
[QUOTE=SumGai;6980284]Hit the boat and a long time fav confirmed mgmt is dumber than dirt.
Showed me pic of a 3 pg posting in the locker room.
Since girls are asking for extra. And some of us are paying it. Floor dances $15 & VIP $30. Thanks Guys!!
But as always, girls can charge what they want. The new tip out for floor dances is $1. 50 instead of $1. VIP is $3 tip out front and three more dollars at the end of the night. $1 increase over the $25 price tip-out. So, offering to pay $25 for two is my new norm for unfamiliar dancers.
Side note. Tii. In 1 hour Fri night I maybe saw 5 dances on the floor and VIP was empty. Girls going to get hungry!
Are.[/QUOTE]Stopped by last night since I was already in the area. Cover was $5 and I usually get that VIP card ($9) so I can hit up Curves without cover for the month. The cashier totally upsells the calendar which I was going to turn down but turns out it's only $10 and she said there's coupons in the back for free cover. I got it because I thought that's a deal. Initially I thought the coupon is only good for ONE entry, but nope, it's good for the whole month! So pay the $10 and you don't have to worry about cover (at Boat or Curves) till 2025!
Anyway it was somewhat slow when I got in. Waitress didn't even look at my direction till Heavenly (she's a bit thicker) came by (this is after at least a few songs went by) She seemed nice to hang out. Eventually the dance question came up and I asked for pricing. And sure enough it's $15 on the floor. I agreed for 1 song. I kid you not, as soon as the bouncer / manager saw her put her tits in my face, his ass bee lined over and gave her the "new" guidelines for floor dance. What a joke.
Obviously she can't get handsy on the floor, etc. Whatever at this point I bolted after one song. Next stop Curves.
Heading over to Curves now that I've got the Free admission coupon from the calendar. Now initially I thought it's just a one-time use but yes you can use it all month! This is perfect for those that visit clubs at night vs daytime no cover anyway (usually).
Bouncers seem friendly tonight (for now anyway) Planted myself by the bar as I always prefer to scoop out the place + it's always less dancers stopping by asking "want to dance?" (usually) And it's much faster service to get drinks!
BTW, drink is $7, it's been a while since my last visit, I thought it's usually higher, this was the same price at the boat. Still cracks me up that they give you a receipt with each drink, but I guess those in the "biz" can write this off and add it to their travel "Entertainment" expense report.
It didn't take long, and I saw one familiar face so that's a plus. She ended up hanging out with me for a bit till her partner in crime showed up. Then another friend showed up and I'm like whoa I can't handle 3 girls! Lmao 2 max!
Anyway, I asked them to do their rounds first then check back later while I get to know the new girl. Long story short, I didn't get a good vibe with the new girl so I passed on her dance offer.
Overall this was a great night, will definitely be back!
[QUOTE=WhiteSun777;6994297]Heading over to Curves now that I've got the Free admission coupon from the calendar. Now initially I thought it's just a one-time use but yes you can use it all month! This is perfect for those that visit clubs at night vs daytime no cover anyway (usually).
Bouncers seem friendly tonight (for now anyway) Planted myself by the bar as I always prefer to scoop out the place + it's always less dancers stopping by asking "want to dance?" (usually) And it's much faster service to get drinks!
BTW, drink is $7, it's been a while since my last visit, I thought it's usually higher, this was the same price at the boat. Still cracks me up that they give you a receipt with each drink, but I guess those in the "biz" can write this off and add it to their travel "Entertainment" expense report.
It didn't take long, and I saw one familiar face so that's a plus. She ended up hanging out with me for a bit till her partner in crime showed up. Then another friend showed up and I'm like whoa I can't handle 3 girls! Lmao 2 max!
Anyway, I asked them to do their rounds first then check back later while I get to know the new girl. Long story short, I didn't get a good vibe with the new girl so I passed on her dance offer.
Overall this was a great night, will definitely be back![/QUOTE]Oddly wholesome post.
On a totally different note —- there's been a girl from Loves posting an ad lately. Not sure how common it is for these girls, but I've been considering going to go check her out, and decide if I wanted to partake.
[QUOTE=ArizonaJunkie;6990263]My bad, I thought Venom was nude but it is not. Thanks for the correction! However, this confirms that the owners of Curves will have an uphill battle with the liquor license.[/QUOTE]I'm friends with the owners of Curves and the boat. They entertained the thought of buying Venom for a VERY short minute and decided not to do it.
[QUOTE=WhiteSun777;6993948]Stopped by last night since I was already in the area. Cover was $5 and I usually get that VIP card ($9) so I can hit up Curves without cover for the month. The cashier totally upsells the calendar which I was going to turn down but turns out it's only $10 and she said there's coupons in the back for free cover. I got it because I thought that's a deal. Initially I thought the coupon is only good for ONE entry, but nope, it's good for the whole month! So pay the $10 and you don't have to worry about cover (at Boat or Curves) till 2025!
Anyway it was somewhat slow when I got in. Waitress didn't even look at my direction till Heavenly (she's a bit thicker) came by (this is after at least a few songs went by) She seemed nice to hang out. Eventually the dance question came up and I asked for pricing. And sure enough it's $15 on the floor. I agreed for 1 song. I kid you not, as soon as the bouncer / manager saw her put her tits in my face, his ass bee lined over and gave her the "new" guidelines for floor dance. What a joke.
Obviously she can't get handsy on the floor, etc. Whatever at this point I bolted after one song. Next stop Curves.[/QUOTE]Just to let you know that Curves and Raiders on their website have a coupon that you take a pic of and never never ever ever have to pay cover at either club. Free free.
[QUOTE=Ralphy3456;6994513]I'm friends with the owners of Curves and the boat. They entertained the thought of buying Venom for a VERY short minute and decided not to do it.[/QUOTE]Too bad. Neither Curves or RR have cabanas. The interior of Venom is nicer & a better setup than Curves or RR. On the other hand, Venom being part of a strip mall, while the other two had their own parking lots, is a big drawback.
I've been going off and on since the early 2000's. Prices haven't changed much till recently, and the cost of living has been rising steadily, so I understand the price hikes. I just wish I had more money!
Down thru the years, I had the best times at The Candy Store between 2003 until it closed. After that, Raiders Reef became my favorite place. I have the best times during early shifts, when it's slow.
[QUOTE=ShakenGrind;6994661]Too bad. Neither Curves or RR have cabanas. The interior of Venom is nicer & a better setup than Curves or RR. On the other hand, Venom being part of a strip mall, while the other two had their own parking lots, is a big drawback.[/QUOTE]I never liked the cabanas. Yes, there's more privacy, but they're too cramped. I guess I don't have a problem eating ass and getting pulled / sucked off with others present.
[QUOTE=WhiteSun777;6993948]Stopped by last night since I was already in the area. Cover was $5 and I usually get that VIP card ($9) so I can hit up Curves without cover for the month. The cashier totally upsells the calendar which I was going to turn down but turns out it's only $10 and she said there's coupons in the back for free cover. I got it because I thought that's a deal. Initially I thought the coupon is only good for ONE entry, but nope, it's good for the whole month! So pay the $10 and you don't have to worry about cover (at Boat or Curves) till 2025!
Anyway it was somewhat slow when I got in. Waitress didn't even look at my direction till Heavenly (she's a bit thicker) came by (this is after at least a few songs went by) She seemed nice to hang out. Eventually the dance question came up and I asked for pricing. And sure enough it's $15 on the floor. I agreed for 1 song. I kid you not, as soon as the bouncer / manager saw her put her tits in my face, his ass bee lined over and gave her the "new" guidelines for floor dance. What a joke.
Obviously she can't get handsy on the floor, etc. Whatever at this point I bolted after one song. Next stop Curves.[/QUOTE]Curves has the same restrictions. I hope they go broke. No reason to go now. I will stick with the AMPs. Let the clubs drive business away. Fookum.
[QUOTE=Gilligan46;6996388]Curves has the same restrictions. I hope they go broke. No reason to go now. I will stick with the AMPs. Let the clubs drive business away. Fookum.[/QUOTE]Agreed, I knew about Curves restrictions so I usually skip the floor dance. The only reason I still go is to get acquainted with dancers that's open for OTC.
Personal taste but that's just something alluring about bringing dancer back to your spot for some real VIP dances.
I stopped in Loves and they are charging 20 per song on the floor. I told the dancer 15 is the max I would pay and she said cool. But you should know, they are saying that Management said to ask for 20. Just passing on the Info, so make sure you ask the price.
[QUOTE=WhiteSun777;6996792]Agreed, I knew about Curves restrictions so I usually skip the floor dance. The only reason I still go is to get acquainted with dancers that's open for OTC.
Personal taste but that's just something alluring about bringing dancer back to your spot for some real VIP dances.[/QUOTE]I agree. I have done that myself many times. I had a dancer that agreed to come to my place and make a anal video in my large walking shower. Of course that would cost much more than a good AMP visit. Very much fun.
Anyone have any intel on the gothic girl that dances at raiders? She was there last Saturday night and gave me a heck of a dance I was just curious if she has any social media. She actually has fangs.
Hi all, does anyone have info on Eevee from Curves? I miss the hell out of them boobies! PM me if you do. Thanks.
It's been a long time since I have posted, good to see the site is still very active. I quit the monger scene for the most part several years back but, I had some time on my hands today, so, I swung by the boat, first time in years. I have to say I was impressed, most the girls look great and its a friendly atmosphere at noon on a Friday. These girls are definitely used to you frequent flyers and are very weary of outsiders. I got approached by the very friendly, Maze and got my $15 dance, it was very sexy, didn't mind that my hands wandered slightly and then towards the very end she gets eye level with my crotch lifts up my shirt, I'm thinking oh boy here we go, then she runs her hands all the way up past my chest and back down. It was at that moment I realized this girl was very sexily checking if I was wearing a wire hahaha! I didn't say anything but I am happy to see they are being careful. I didn't push for anything more but, the carefulness tells me its a huge possibility for the right person.
I went a few days ago early afternoon and sat at the bar having a drink. I wasn't really wanting to get any dances but really wanted a few drinks. Unfortunately a newer dancer that I had never seen before was really wanting to take me in the VIP. She grabbed my junk at the bar stool and introduced herself as Rosie. She looked mixed and was definitely striking up my interest to play. So we agreed on. 4 a dance with all the fun stuff that was discussed. So off we went. As soon as we started she almost immediately said that's going to be extra. That's going to be extra. I decided to end the dance about mid way through knowing that this was going to be a major upsell. I gave her the. 4 and she's like aren't you going to tip me? And I was like for what? And I immediately walked out of the club. Never again with her. I knew that I should have just stuck to me getting drunk at the bar.
The two waitresses were easily the best looking women in the house. In fact the AA one (5'6), who has long black hair down to her waist, is sexy af. What a body on her. Did hear a couple of new names: Kayleigh & Snow. Any Intel on them?