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[QUOTE=MrQuicky;3826701]I left out a question I originally wanted to ask: Has Harbor and Hazard always been this way. Was it like this 20-30 years ago.
I'm thinking only 40+ mature mongers would have the answer to this.[/QUOTE]It has been an active track. (Early 80's).
[QUOTE=MrQuicky;3830078]Daaammmnnn... 1960's??!! I'm glad you live to tell. Bless you. Live long and prosper sir.
Thanks for sharing your history with us![/QUOTE]Thanks for the kind words Mr. Quicky. Yeah, I've been at it a long, long time and have some weird, funny, and scary stories to tell. I'm a published author and would love to put some of my experiences on paper buuuutttt. I'm also very happily married and I doubt that I could bend the tales enough to keep my dear wife from recognizing some of my old haunts. I probably worry too much about it but I'm not about to take a chance on messing up the best thing I have in my life. And the funny thing is, she begged me to include a story in my memoir about an event that happened to me as a young teenager when an old aunt of mine wanted to play games. I certainly didn't want to sully her image (even though she had long since passed) and I didn't think my kids or grandkids had a need to know about it.
No less than 15 girls of all shapes and sizes in the parking lot and another 7 or 8 along Hazard west or Harbor and 3 on Harbor north of Hazard. Never seen it this busy and they were aggressive. Knocking on my window as I drove through the parking lot.
[QUOTE=MrQuicky;3826701]I left out a question I originally wanted to ask: Has Harbor and Hazard always been this way. Was it like this 20-30 years ago.
I'm thinking only 40+ mature mongers would have the answer to this.[/QUOTE]I used to cruise Harbor in 1975-80, but at that time the track was between Disneyland and the 22 Freeway. 20.00 for half and half bare. HIV hadn't even come out as public knowledge at that time. Sometimes the girls would have a room at some shitty notel near Lampson. In those same years Sunset in Hollywood was incredible for talent.
I was out and about last night. Got to the track at 930. A little early but got my spot to watch the girls come in. By 1100 there were 25 girls of all shapes and sizes. There were at least 6-7 law with 10 bow and then a couple of www one very large girl who kept getting picked up. I was shocked. I'm sorry either you guys have a fatty fetish or this girl only charges $20. Either way I am shocked given the cuteness of some of the others. My girl Vanessa was out and looking fine. My other girl from Florida was out also. She was mad at me cause I wasn't picking her up. Then something happened over by California girls. Cops shut down that street for an hour. I tried to scope it out but couldn't see anything. Anyway I didn't partake last night and left at 330. Tons of girls still out at this time. Happy hunting.
So I got to the track around 1130 and it was hopping as usual. All of the regulars with a couple of other hotties out. Cruised around for a little bit to see what was truly out there. Some nice LSW and WSW mixed with lots of fine BSW. About an hour in my girl Vanessa calls and needed a little help. So I went and picked her up and off we went. Finished what she needed and she proceeded to help me in a wonderful way. CBJ start rose missionary and then CBJ finish. Great time with a hot girl.
BTW the thing on the side street with the cops happen to be a pimp who was beating down one of his girls and then gave the cops a hard time during his arrest.
Happy hunting boys.
[QUOTE=HoDownMan2;3835760]There were at least 6-7 law with 10 bow and then a couple of www one very large girl who kept getting picked up. I was shocked. I'm sorry either you guys have a fatty fetish or this girl only charges $20.[/QUOTE]There's a few girls on Harbor / Hazard that do bareback with CIP.
For those of you picking these girls around 3 or 4 am she's not wet and creamy because she horny.
She soaking wet and creamy because she's been taking bare loads all night from guys that have been saving up for an entire week.
Not all the bareback girls are big girls either.
[QUOTE=HoDownMan2;3821011]I was out both nights. As I have stated the action started around 10 pm at the 7/11 parking lot. Girls came out in droves both nights. It's was a true buffet. Small gi lie fat girls ddg girls Asian white black and Hispanic. A true pickem type atmosphere. The shocking thing to me is I think the girls and pumps must have had a labor union meeting cause the prices for all start at 80 and they don't seem to be budging below 60. I would think with the supply so plentiful prices would come down a bit. I think we need a John union meeting to get more unity on our offerings cause obviously the girls are getting those prices or they wouldn't ask. I did notice that not as many pick ups though and I did see a couple of the girls laugh at some Hispanic guys that still think the track is a $20 per date track. Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]Its truly funny because I laugh at SW thinking she a high class escort I only offer 20 for BJ and ill drive and ask until I get it, believe me theres always one that will do it, its up to us. Only apartment well know Korean high class escort deserves the big buck because they deliver quality service a street hooker can never match so yes the track is still $20 bucks believe it is if you want it to be. 80 and up is Hx quality.
So I went to harbor and hazard on Saturday to try it out since I've been to fig and holt so I wanted to check it out. I got lost a little and went to wrong 711 and than I got lost in general but I found and boy was there a lot of SW waiting I did a few passes to see if I liked any. I went to a few and asked if they offered bb but I think I should have let them in the car and asked, but anyways I found this one LSW that was on the street next to the apartments I picked her up and off I went she was telling me this story about how her boyfriend left her for another man and she cracked her screen because of it. She was really chaty so I found a spot and we proceeded to get into it when she started she she was just sucking the tip, and asking every 10 secs if I came. No ***** I didn't cum yet. So I was getting mad because I couldn't cum so I told her ill give her extra 20 for a BBBJ took a little convincing but she gave in and doing the same thing than, she just started with a HJ and and saying if I came yet I told her to go faster. So that was my experience from that she said she was from Fresno I didn't catch a name.
Are.
1. Harbor / Gates.
2. Harbor / Washington.
3. Harbor / Westminster (McDonalds).
4. Harbor / (further south).
Still active. Or is it pretty much just H&H?
So I am writing this report live from m the 7-11 parking lot. There are twent girls of all shapes and sizes. Black white Latina you name it. The stay puff marshmallow girl is here also in all her glory. Definitely the place to be.
[QUOTE=HoDownMan2;3844303]So I am writing this report live from m the 7-11 parking lot. There are twent girls of all shapes and sizes. Black white Latina you name it. The stay puff marshmallow girl is here also in all her glory. Definitely the place to be.[/QUOTE]Yo any chance you spotted this Barbie doll looking Latina white dress? Man I pulled around and she was gone.
[QUOTE=LizrdKing;3844424]Yo any chance you spotted this Barbie doll looking Latina white dress? Man I pulled around and she was gone.[/QUOTE]I did not see her. I was only out for two hours. Lots of cops last night.
Uncle LEO on Hazard hitting cars with the spot light as they drive north; suprisingly there were still a dozen girls around. So much for some site seeing.
[QUOTE=LizrdKing;3844424]Yo any chance you spotted this Barbie doll looking Latina white dress? Man I pulled around and she was gone.[/QUOTE]So just curious did your Latina have blonde hair? Cause there is a fucking hot Latina in fishnets with blonde hair trolling and she looks great.
[QUOTE=Cappy73;3845363]Uncle LEO on Hazard hitting cars with the spot light as they drive north; suprisingly there were still a dozen girls around. So much for some site seeing.[/QUOTE]Honestly they are harmless. Just don't get caught picking up a girl.
I'm new to all of this so please forgive any missing info or etiquette for the lingo.
A couple of weeks ago I joined the SW scene in Pomona. My city doesn't have a scene so I decided to start in Pomona. My post is in the Pomona thread.
Anyways I had an engagement in Fullerton yesterday at night. Once I was done I marked the places people talk about here H / H and Ball.
I stopped by the 711 to get a red bull but it was closed LOL. There were some WSW and 1 LSW hanging out in the parking lot. They were okay but didn't want to make it obvious so I left and turned a right. I saw a LSW and tried to partake but she was asking for. 6 for just mouth. She was cute but I'm trying to keep the price down from. 3 to. 4. Anyways that's when I saw a cop stop her in my rearview.
Sorry I don't know the streets here so I'm trying to be accurate as possible. I busted a you and crossed the intersection with a dip. I saw a cop talking to two sws. 1 looked LSW and the other was for sure asw. Both looked good so I parked nearby and waited for the cop to leave. I spun around and saw the asw closer. Wow she was a looker but I'm pretty sure she was asking a premium price. She was thick and could pass off as a pornstar. I left and made a right than another left to see a couple more sws near residential neighborhood.
I decided to do one more loop and hopefully pick up someone. I made a right towards the 711 and tried to do a you in a residential part and a cop was just staring at me. I parked inside a person's yard but he kept on staring. The homeowner came out so I dipped. Cop was still looking at me from the stop sign so I decided to go home to not try my luck.
Hopefully I can be back soon to partake but the cops are not something I like. I prefer Pomona even though selection is not as good.
Sorry for the long post but if you guys have any questions let me know and I will try to answer them as best as I can.
[QUOTE=HoDownMan2;3845365]So just curious did your Latina have blonde hair? Cause there is a fucking hot Latina in fishnets with blonde hair trolling and she looks great.[/QUOTE]I didn't notice think she had dark hair, would of probably noticed she was on the back street, any way looking for deep throat any one care to recommend.
"RookieMistake" - I like your name.
What do you think the track will look like tonight? HH.
I hit it late, after 3 am. Holy moly I've never seen it so busy. Mongers everywhere, ho's everywhere, it was nuts. Maybe 40+ girls spread out along Hazard west of Harbor, and a WHOLE LOT on Bewley and the streets parallel to Hazard like Washington. I made one slow lap around, had all kinds of thirsty girls hitting me up. I figured with so much competition I could be picky. Out of the shadows on Bewley was a blonde WSW and I went for it. She hopped in and asked for. 8 right away. I said "get in first" because I know a UC won't just jump in without any discussion of money. I started driving and she kept asking "you got the. 8 right?" I said "how about. 4?" She said we can do something for that. I just kept going until I found a good dark quiet spot a few blocks away from the action. Her name was Molly. She's not in the best shape, but was young (early 20's maybe) and seemed good to go. When she started the CBJ she said "let's do full service, you got another. 2?" I went for it. Her CBJ was alright, but you all know they aren't really that great with a cover. As usual this girl was on her phone a lot, texting and talking to some other chick (could hear a girls voice on the other end), even picked up a call from another girl while I was plowing her against the passenger seat. She wasn't all that amazing but it got the job done. I dropped her back off at Bewley behind CG and went on my way. Took a while to get back because there was so much congestion on the track, girls walking the middle of the street working their hustle, mongers parked negotiating in the middle of traffic, it was nuts. She said she'd give me her # but I declined, I wouldn't repeat, will find another one out there that's better. I'd love to bang MILF Ashley again, she was a lot hotter. Anyway, no LE anywhere near the track, they were all up by Westminster and Harbor. It was my first summer Friday night out so I'd expect this Friday to also be hot. Usually they are shy, but not last week. Not at ALL.
I used to cruise Harbor like 20 years ago. Back then, there were girls to be found, sporadically, all the way from a bit before Disneyland to the Carl's Junior drive through. They were mostly in in the Carl's Jr. Parking lot. Which was nice, cause one could go through the drive-through, check out the selection. Get a burger, fries, and a ho to go.
I never saw any in residential areas, and though I'm sure I probably checked (because I obsessively drove around on the hunt), I probably wouldn't have thought it likely -- as the main boulevard seemed more like the place to be.
So, first, a question for you old timers:
Have the SW always been in the residential tracks (e. G. , hazard)? If not, when did that start?
So, fast forward 20 years. Last Sunday I was driving through Harbor and thinking that the reason I don't see any SW anymore is probably because of the internet. But. BUT, because of the posts of you wonderful and helpful degenerates, I recalled Hazard and 7-11. So, I kept driving and sure enough, there's action taking place in that parking lot. Though not much. That's when I see some almost naked women walk down the street off harbor. So, I follow them. Wow. I had no idea. There must have been at 20 or more women on a corner. I was blown away.
I was so blown away I kept circling around and around (at least three times). Now, I imagine it was the late hour I was out there, but on the third time around, suddenly the place was nearly empty. There was however, a BSW there who looked really good.
Well, I had me a little daydream that I picked her and she was ready to give me the full treatment for $70 w / o haggling (I have no idea what the current pricing is, that just seems like a reasonable starting point).
Of course, even in my dreams I'm super paranoid, and couldn't fel comfortable as there are no try truly secluded areas in that area that I'm aware of. So, even in my dream I just gave her a litttle less for a BJ.
This relatively attractive BSW, let's call her CiCi, was as pleasant and civilized as she was pleasant on the eyes. A truly lovely young woman, and most likely some young man's mother.
I wish I could partake in more of these fantasies but while there seems to be a flourishing scene, I am so freaked out by the (likely small %) chance of arrest that I just can't allow myself to do it (too many potential professional ramifications).
But, anyway, for anyone looking who hasn't made this discovery: wow. What a scene.
And for those who know? How long has it been like this? And are there really more of these little areas? Unbelievable! And, what tips can you all provide generally for staying safe, etc.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=JaxO;3850143]I used to cruise Harbor like 20 years ago. Back then, there were girls to be found, sporadically, all the way from a bit before Disneyland to the Carl's Junior drive through. They were mostly in in the Carl's Jr. Parking lot. Which was nice, cause one could go through the drive-through, check out the selection. Get a burger, fries, and a ho to go.
I never saw any in residential areas, and though I'm sure I probably checked (because I obsessively drove around on the hunt), I probably wouldn't have thought it likely -- as the main boulevard seemed more like the place to be.
So, first, a question for you old timers:
Have the SW always been in the residential tracks (e. G. , hazard)? If not, when did that start?
So, fast forward 20 years. Last Sunday I was driving through Harbor and thinking that the reason I don't see any SW anymore is probably because of the internet. But. BUT, because of the posts of you wonderful and helpful degenerates, I recalled Hazard and 7-11. So, I kept driving and sure enough, there's action taking place in that parking lot. Though not much. That's when I see some almost naked women walk down the street off harbor. So, I follow them. Wow. I had no idea. There must have been at 20 or more women on a corner. I was blown away.
I was so blown away I kept circling around and around (at least three times). Now, I imagine it was the late hour I was out there, but on the third time around, suddenly the place was nearly empty. There was however, a BSW there who looked really good.
Well, I had me a little daydream that I picked her and she was ready to give me the full treatment for $70 w / o haggling (I have no idea what the current pricing is, that just seems like a reasonable starting point).
Of course, even in my dreams I'm super paranoid, and couldn't fel comfortable as there are no try truly secluded areas in that area that I'm aware of. So, even in my dream I just gave her a litttle less for a BJ.
This relatively attractive BSW, let's call her CiCi, was as pleasant and civilized as she was pleasant on the eyes. A truly lovely young woman, and most likely some young man's mother.
I wish I could partake in more of these fantasies but while there seems to be a flourishing scene, I am so freaked out by the (likely small %) chance of arrest that I just can't allow myself to do it (too many potential professional ramifications).
But, anyway, for anyone looking who hasn't made this discovery: wow. What a scene.
And for those who know? How long has it been like this? And are there really more of these little areas? Unbelievable! And, what tips can you all provide generally for staying safe, etc.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]It's has been booming since FOSTA a month ago. It's has been booming and busting with the economic and LE activities since the late 90 as far as I know, that you already know. It never died off completely. The OC track is unique in the nation I bet and it's always Hazzard & harbor. When the going is tough, like too much competition or too much LE, girls try to be creative and spread far and wide. I've picked up girls in Washington, the temple, gals on the way to Disney, down to Costa Mesa. Once the park at the back of 711 was the place to be. It couldn't work when it becomes well known. But 711 is the other place to hangout.
So many cops.
Yo met gia this morning at 4/5 am super hot looking Asian MILF, . 60 for basically a hi tho anyone know of she does f. S.
[QUOTE=LizrdKing;3853126]So many cops.[/QUOTE]Monger after 3 am and fewer cops out.
Last night there was a thin LSW in a black bikini like thing. She was hot but her face had tattoos on it. Anyone here date a a member of a gang before?
[QUOTE=BobJohnSmiff;3854773]Last night there was a thin LSW in a black bikini like thing. She was hot but her face had tattoos on it. Anyone here date a a member of a gang before?[/QUOTE]Facial tattoos always indicate terrible service.
Every single time I've taken a chance on a girl with facial tattoos I've regretted it.
Every.
Single.
Time.
Caution but sex might be worth the risk but when in doubt leave situation and be careful smart. Good luck.
[QUOTE=BobJohnSmiff;3854773]Last night there was a thin LSW in a black bikini like thing. She was hot but her face had tattoos on it. Anyone here date a a member of a gang before?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ChrisPoontang;3854921]Facial tattoos always indicate terrible service.
Every single time I've taken a chance on a girl with facial tattoos I've regretted it.
Every.
Single.
Time.[/QUOTE]Haha did you have the face tattoo WSW in OC?
[QUOTE=ChrisPoontang;3854921]Facial tattoos always indicate terrible service.
Every single time I've taken a chance on a girl with facial tattoos I've regretted it.
Every.
Single.
Time.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Too bad cause she was damn fine.
[QUOTE=CGFitness;3855318]Haha did you have the face tattoo WSW in OC?[/QUOTE]Of course not.
I've learned my lesson when it comes to girls with facial tattoos.
I've realized that when it comes to getting good service from prostitutes you want to look for the nerdiest girls on the track.
I've had some nerdy prostitutes that left me completely and utterly satisfied.
I was shocked on how packed it was with SW and Mongers. It was nuts!
I hit H&H around 10 pm. I really wasn't expecting much for that time. Most of the reports I have read had the area happening around the early morning times. My goal was to window shop and maybe even see the place start to happen. It seemed I was in the thick of it around 11-1130.
On my first loop I saw a LSW in nothing but a fishnet wrap. She was already getting into a ride when I made the left turn from Hazard to Bewley. What really caught my eye was a group of people who were at that the NE of the intersection. I couldn't tell if they were just checking it out or trying to bust up the scene. The 711 was filled with cars. When I passed it, there were about 5 SW there. One tall WSW, but no one was really calling. Checked out the west side of Hazard, nothing there either. I was going to do one more loop and then things got real interesting.
There were more girls. Maybe some of the 11 girls came over and then more Mongers started showing up. It seemed to be concentrated on Hazard and stopped at Bewley. What was really taken aback by the amount of Mongers. If you were heading west on Hazard, trying to cross Harbor, good luck. Cars were stopped talking to SWs and then you had to deal with the signal. I was cheating it by going down on Bewley, crossing 5th and then going up Fig St. I was able to check out most of the action. By 1130 it was crazy but this is when it got real fun. It seems the crowd that was watching the action from their lawn had one active person in it. As I was driving, she was shining a flashlight at the cars. Her and some guy started walking down Hazard, recording or taking pics of the scene. I did another loop only to see her start yelling at some guy walking with at SW. I could he him tell her that this was america. I'm sure she was going nuts.
What killed me was that I saw one worth picking up. She was a cute little, light skinned BBW. She was only wearing a white bra and shorts with the biggest set of can I have ever seen on a SW. I couldn't seem to get her attention from all the traffic. She was with two other SWs (one of them I'm sure, was the one with the facial tat from the previous post) who were walking away from Hazard. I think they had it with the lady shining a light on them. By the time I did another loop, they were gone. This was about 12 am. I wanted to hit LBB and Fig, but I was really burned out.
Stay safe,
P.
[QUOTE=Pudgy68;3856181]I was shocked on how packed it was with SW and Mongers. It was nuts!
I hit H&H around 10 pm. I really wasn't expecting much for that time. Most of the reports I have read had the area happening around the early morning times. My goal was to window shop and maybe even see the place start to happen. It seemed I was in the thick of it around 11-1130.
On my first loop I saw a LSW in nothing but a fishnet wrap. She was already getting into a ride when I made the left turn from Hazard to Bewley. What really caught my eye was a group of people who were at that the NE of the intersection. I couldn't tell if they were just checking it out or trying to bust up the scene. The 711 was filled with cars. When I passed it, there were about 5 SW there. One tall WSW, but no one was really calling. Checked out the west side of Hazard, nothing there either. I was going to do one more loop and then things got real interesting.
There were more girls. Maybe some of the 11 girls came over and then more Mongers started showing up. It seemed to be concentrated on Hazard and stopped at Bewley. What was really taken aback by the amount of Mongers. If you were heading west on Hazard, trying to cross Harbor, good luck. Cars were stopped talking to SWs and then you had to deal with the signal. I was cheating it by going down on Bewley, crossing 5th and then going up Fig St. I was able to check out most of the action. By 1130 it was crazy but this is when it got real fun. It seems the crowd that was watching the action from their lawn had one active person in it. As I was driving, she was shining a flashlight at the cars. Her and some guy started walking down Hazard, recording or taking pics of the scene. I did another loop only to see her start yelling at some guy walking with at SW. I could he him tell her that this was america. I'm sure she was going nuts.
What killed me was that I saw one worth picking up. She was a cute little, light skinned BBW. She was only wearing a white bra and shorts with the biggest set of can I have ever seen on a SW. I couldn't seem to get her attention from all the traffic. She was with two other SWs (one of them I'm sure, was the one with the facial tat from the previous post) who were walking away from Hazard. I think they had it with the lady shining a light on them. By the time I did another loop, they were gone. This was about 12 am. I wanted to hit LBB and Fig, but I was really burned out.
Stay safe,
P.[/QUOTE]Excellent Post. It has been many years since I trolled Harbor, but it appears that night was a huge jackpot.
What's the best excuse to say if you're seen picking up a girl on harbor hazard and get pulled over?
[QUOTE=BobJohnSmiff;3856017]Thanks for the info. Too bad cause she was damn fine.[/QUOTE]You saw the thin LSW too? Does she come out often?
[QUOTE=ChrisPoontang;3856065]Of course not.
I've learned my lesson when it comes to girls with facial tattoos.
I've realized that when it comes to getting good service from prostitutes you want to look for the nerdiest girls on the track.
I've had some nerdy prostitutes that left me completely and utterly satisfied.[/QUOTE]Wow. Great tip haha. Nerdy as in wearing glasses?
[QUOTE=CGFitness;3857459]You saw the thin LSW too? Does she come out often?[/QUOTE]Not that I can remember but maybe she wasn't dressed like that before.
[QUOTE=CGFitness;3857459]You saw the thin LSW too? Does she come out often?[/QUOTE]So this as been out the last three weekends. From what I have seen she is really aggressive trying to get dates. I have found in my expience the more aggressive girl gives worse service then the more reserved girls.
There was another either www or law in the 711 lot on Sunday night. She had long legs long brown hair and an ass to die for. She was wearing some daisy dukes. She looked great and will partake with her.
My girl Vanessa was out also along with my girl from Florida.
It's crazy busy on a daily basis guys. Have fun and be safe.
Hi,
Just wanted to add my part for Saturday. Even at this time it was poppin. There were like 20 SW of all types. There were even some that were hot. Only problem was that most seem to be quoting $. I get that the demand was high, but $ is way too much. The service you get is just not worth it. Even on slow nights, they quote the same $. When I told an ASW that I was only willing to spend. 5, she said "I can't do much with. 5". I then replied "and you don't want to do much for $. Gtfo with that shit. ".
This is why the guys love Vannesa. She don't overcharge plus she give legit service. Not just that, she's hot. If you guys are reading this. Don't give these SW's more than. 6. It's just not worth it. . 6 is fair. Not too much, but not cheap either imo.