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[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2685c2bf-d45d-4ee9-a709-0a7fa1e38633[/URL]
If you honestly believe this chick doesn't fuck on the first meet, I got a bridge to sell you. I met this girl 2 x in 2022. Although the "performances" were good, she got nasty with me for no reason at all. I don't recommend.
[QUOTE=Ginzo666;6758466][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2685c2bf-d45d-4ee9-a709-0a7fa1e38633[/URL]
If you honestly believe this chick doesn't fuck on the first meet, I got a bridge to sell you. I met this girl 2 x in 2022. Although the "performances" were good, she got nasty with me for no reason at all. I don't recommend.[/QUOTE]Maybe she was in love with you? Haha!
She looks to have fun tits-are they as big as they seem to be in pictures?
[QUOTE=JoeThighsMan;6758523]Maybe she was in love with you? Haha!
She looks to have fun tits-are they as big as they seem to be in pictures?[/QUOTE]Her tits are enormous!
[QUOTE=WarlockKy;6734344]A lot of conversation starts and stops, PMs on the sites that die off and then start back up a month of so later.
My guess is she gets one on the line and then goes looking again when he moves on.
Never been able to get her to text.[/QUOTE]Long time lurker on this thread (participate in others) and don't have the cashflow to provide a monthly allowance, maybe a ppm, but I love to windowshop.
I do love her profile though: "I have no interest on being the basis of a marriage ending. Cheaters absolutely disgust me. So if your (sic) married or currently in a relationship then don't waste your time. ".
I'd guestimate that 95% of us are in a relationship and are here looking to get what we don't at home. I don't consider it cheating when my SO won't do something I want or even go out and have fun. I'm basically in a business relationship raising our family, and I get some benefits here and there, but nothing like I want so I go get it somewhere else. I love it when a chick selling her pussy on the internet judges us for buying it.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7c1fb7c5-3f31-4efa-97d4-0bc69d934cdb?_cf_ref=aHR0cDovL3d3dy51c2FzZXhndWlkZS5ubC8%3D[/URL]
[QUOTE=Ginzo666;6758551]Her tits are enormous![/QUOTE]Her profile is gone.
Good observations and I am in a similar spot to you, surf often and partake less. I am very picky and as we all know, things are very different than 5 or 6 years ago. And I am guessing the site has probably saved more marriages than it has destroyed?
I once had a SB I met on the road post a similar sentiment in her profile about not wanting to meet with married SD's. So we met for a drink one thing led to another and we wound up having a wonderful time together. It actually turned out to be maybe my best encounter ever from the site. Moral of the story, ignore what they say in their profile. They are all crazy in some way. If they need sugar and you hit them up at the right time, your in!
And if "cheaters disgust her" why the hell is she on the site? The last thing I need is a SB lecturing me on who I should sleep with. And no worries, you are not going to break up my marriage!!
[QUOTE=AlphaTek1;6759337]Long time lurker on this thread (participate in others) and don't have the cashflow to provide a monthly allowance, maybe a ppm, but I love to windowshop.
I do love her profile though: "I have no interest on being the basis of a marriage ending. Cheaters absolutely disgust me. So if your (sic) married or currently in a relationship then don't waste your time. ".
I'd guestimate that 95% of us are in a relationship and are here looking to get what we don't at home. I don't consider it cheating when my SO won't do something I want or even go out and have fun. I'm basically in a business relationship raising our family, and I get some benefits here and there, but nothing like I want so I go get it somewhere else. I love it when a chick selling her pussy on the internet judges us for buying it.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7c1fb7c5-3f31-4efa-97d4-0bc69d934cdb?_cf_ref=aHR0cDovL3d3dy51c2FzZXhndWlkZS5ubC8%3D[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BamBam;6751623]Before Covid and the rate inflation, I used to have a lot of success with coeds in the 21-24 age range. Lately, the coeds seemed to have dried up. Could be me, could be the effect of O-F or or it could be natural evolution. In any case, I now search 18-35 while being serious about working those between 20-30 and having the most success in the 24-28 range. I deviate from time-to-time if the woman looks interesting but those often end up as one-off. My allowance offer is in the 200-400/ week range but I will deviate up to 500 for someone special.
BAM.[/QUOTE]Birthrates started dropping off big time in the late 90's and early 2000's. Th reason why Seeking was such a gold mine from 2010-2017 was because there were alot more millenial women than there are gen Z girls.
The millenials are aging out of their looks / settling down (to some extent) so that is why things are kind of simmering off. Seeking is essentially a MILF hunter site now and going forward things are going to be even worse due to the massive drop off in birthrates.
Its depressing but if you were an older gen X or a boomer who was in this sport in the 90's, 00's and 10's consider yourself lucky. Its legit going to be a barren wasteland by the end of this decade and your only real hope of having any sort of decent variety is to expand your search radius or be able to travel.
The only way Gen Z girls are going come to reality is when they age out of their cam girl looks or we have a systemic societal collapse. I dont think a depression is enough to shake it
[QUOTE=LolBoat;6760975]Birthrates started dropping off big time in the late 90's and early 2000's. Th reason why Seeking was such a gold mine from 2010-2017 was because there were alot more millenial women than there are gen Z girls.[/QUOTE]It looks like birthrates hit peaks in 1990 and 2007. So, maybe we'll get another spike in SBs around 2027 or so! Overall, the trendline is gradually moving down tho, which is exactly what you get when you live in a gerontocracy like the US.
[QUOTE=LolBoat;6760975]Birthrates started dropping off big time in the late 90's and early 2000's. Th reason why Seeking was such a gold mine from 2010-2017 was because there were alot more millenial women than there are gen Z girls.
The millenials are aging out of their looks / settling down (to some extent) so that is why things are kind of simmering off. Seeking is essentially a MILF hunter site now and going forward things are going to be even worse due to the massive drop off in birthrates.
Its depressing but if you were an older gen X or a boomer who was in this sport in the 90's, 00's and 10's consider yourself lucky. Its legit going to be a barren wasteland by the end of this decade and your only real hope of having any sort of decent variety is to expand your search radius or be able to travel.
The only way Gen Z girls are going come to reality is when they age out of their cam girl looks or we have a systemic societal collapse. I dont think a depression is enough to shake it[/QUOTE]I'm an older GenXer (born in the late 1960's). I agree that the Millennial SBs (aka "Generation Why Not") made the best SBs.
Between 2010 and 2017, there were a lot of quality young women on Seeking, most born between 1985 and 1996.
In 2024, though, most of the good ones from that crowd have married and settled down, or simply found careers that got them out of sugaring.
But there was more to the 2010's boom than birthrates. The whole sugar dating concept got a big boost in the media between 2009 and 2014 or so, much like that horrible Only Fools site is getting boosted in the media now.
Also, the unemployment rate hit 9. 9 percent in 2009. I was meeting a lot of college seniors from UC, Miami, and NKU who weren't getting jobs. For the past few years, the big companies have been swooping up those same students. (The unemployment rate is currently 3. 7 percent.).
Like so many of you, I don't like the Gen Z girls nearly as much.
In my experience, they are hyper-cautious and like to stay in their rooms.
Some of this can be blamed on the lockdowns of the pandemic period, which were so much of their formative years. But the blame can also be placed on their uptight Gen X parents (many of my friends) who helicopter-parented them.
The Millennials, by contrast, were largely raised by devil-may-care Boomers.
The Gen Z girls (at least the ones on Seeking) are a lot fatter as a group.
That all said, I want to leave you guys with a ray of hope. So here goes.
I used to dabble in the hobby in the early 2000's. I was in my 30's then. Most of the providers in those days were younger Gen Xers, often just a few years younger than me.
The girl market of the early 00's was not so great. At that time, the market looked a lot like it does now: all of the offerings were fat, rough, or way too expensive.
But in mid-2008, things took off, when the cash-hungry Millennial girls came on board. At first, that meant more high-quality, reasonably priced escorts. Then Seeking Arrangement exploded a few years later, between 2010 and 2012.
That's why I'm mostly holding on to my money until the supply situation changes. (The big problem now, on Seeking and elsewhere, is too many thirsty guys chasing too few quality girls.).
But what goes around, comes around. I've seen it happen before.
She shares that her name is Kate. She was also on SA as Sweetcheeksoxox several years ago. She claims she is willing to do PPM for $500 but wants $200 at the first MnG. She will not go directly to a private meeting. I chatted with her a few years ago when she was using the Sweetcheeks profile. She was asking the same then. I am pretty certain she is just a rinser and will never meet for intimacy.
I think she has blocked me on SA but I will include a link there even though it no longer works for me. Has anyone had any contact with her? Results? I have PII / SM to share for contributing seniors.
[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/789febaa89650633[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/78086239-dc22-468d-832b-e30ea6e380a2[/URL]
BAM.
In the current Seeking database within 60 miles of Cincinnati there are:
3558= Sugar baby's total of which
676= Average girls.
1245= Slim and Athletic girls.
1637= Curvy, Full figure, and Heavy Set girls.
With ages of
18-20= 267.
21-25= 1317.
26-30= 901.
31-35= 512.
36-40= 249.
41-50= 249.
50+= 100.
There's a +37 in age results over weight for some reason lol
[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;6761912]In the current Seeking database within 60 miles of Cincinnati there are:
3558= Sugar baby's total of which
676= Average girls.
1245= Slim and Athletic girls.
1637= Curvy, Full figure, and Heavy Set girls.
With ages of
18-20= 267.
21-25= 1317.
26-30= 901.
31-35= 512.
36-40= 249.
41-50= 249.
50+= 100.
There's a +37 in age results over weight for some reason lol[/QUOTE]God damn! Nearly 50% are overweight / BBW?
I love America 🤮.
[QUOTE=BamBam;6761502]I chatted with her a few years ago when she was using the Sweetcheeks profile. She was asking the same then. I am pretty certain she is just a rinser and will never meet for intimacy.
[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/789febaa89650633[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/78086239-dc22-468d-832b-e30ea6e380a2[/URL]
BAM.[/QUOTE]Messaged with her in November. Wanted MnG fee. Determined she was a time water and money grabber not real SB. Passed. YMMV. She's also on Bumble as Kate
[QUOTE=Ginzo666;6753651]Those pictures are of "Veronica. " If that really is the same girl and not someone using her pictures, then she really does look good IRL. But, she's not recommended. Kind of a dud when you meet her, and she's very annoying and aggressive on text.[/QUOTE]
I agree totally with Ginzo. Better to avoid.
I've been smacking these unruly bitches with the ban-hammer as of late.
There's been an inordinate number of broads that want to waste time.
I don't get it.
[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;6762050]Messaged with her in November. Wanted MnG fee. Determined she was a time water and money grabber not real SB. Passed. YMMV. She's also on Bumble as Kate[/QUOTE]Yeah she wants a $$ meet and greet.
[QUOTE=SixtyNineX10;6753158][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/612ab802-97dc-46fc-8c18-8ac2e5b47843[/URL]
Any intel on this one? Seems I saw her on the site before, but was under a different profile. Feel free to dm me.[/QUOTE]Super annoying. We weren't able to schedule a meet but she was still texting me begging.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5637c23f-4b4b-4173-958a-ccba3bda7ca3[/URL]
Doesn't even try to hide the grift.
The ones that asks all the basic questions are annoying. She wanted to sell me pics and vid's. I did get a preview of her tits. If they are actually hers. Not bad but I do t plan on pursuing any more.
[QUOTE=Bbbloo;6765569]Super annoying. We weren't able to schedule a meet but she was still texting me begging.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bbbloo;6765569]Super annoying. We weren't able to schedule a meet but she was still texting me begging.[/QUOTE]Yea, quit talking to her early on. She kept messaging me from different numbers so I didn't know it was her. Probably 4 numbers in all. Very creepy.
This is another with GPS. She is very hot. I found her IG but not any PII. She engaged and chatted with me. However she is firm at wanting $3-4 K per month based on 2-4 meetings a month. I am guessing she wants something like $800-1000 per meet and would be okay with a per meet offer at that level. You high rollers should go for it!
BAM.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/27e4dfc2-739a-4aa8-a6a1-897e82ae41b2[/URL]
This girl.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/04f60834-552f-5c4e-4ce5-c58ddecd09a7[/URL]
Is also this girl.
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/azrealle[/URL]
Her Seeking profile dates back to 2014, and the main pic is relatively flattering. But based on some other photos of her, I believe it's about 10 years old. I've seen later photos in which her appearance is a lot rougher and a somewhat heavier.
Do a M&G before you agree to anything.
Anyone? She sent me a couple pictures that were intriguing. Since she's been on for a few years does anyone have intel on meeting up with her?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9c48ad27-e600-4a9e-88ca-2ba2a11a460c[/URL]#.
Pics make you wonder how dangerous this would be to have playtime with?!
Not in Cincinnati area. Just sharing as it is an interesting dilemma to ponder.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c8ebf452-ddb5-4b02-b5ff-59f7fe844284[/URL]
[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;6769535]Pics make you wonder how dangerous this would be to have playtime with?!
Not in Cincinnati area. Just sharing as it is an interesting dilemma to ponder.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c8ebf452-ddb5-4b02-b5ff-59f7fe844284[/URL][/QUOTE]I get sympathy pains just looking at that.
[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/c73135771689bd03[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ac65f090-d8fb-447b-aa5d-c859802f6af2[/URL]
Anyone ever meet her?
Lists "curvy" and none of the pics are ever more than just her shoulders.
[QUOTE=WarlockKy;6770770][URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/c73135771689bd03[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ac65f090-d8fb-447b-aa5d-c859802f6af2[/URL]
Anyone ever meet her?
Lists "curvy" and none of the pics are ever more than just her shoulders.[/QUOTE]I believe that one is just a time waster. I saw some pics of her a while back where she did just look curvy (big ass, etc), but who knows how old the pics were.
[QUOTE=Ccurtis;6741412]Never mind. Just another scammer trying to get money sent ahead of time.[/QUOTE]She is real and from the east side of town. Never attempted to meet but she pushes a lazy OF and Snapchat subscription. She works a shitty retail job and has 2 kids. Most recent is a baby with a felon that she is on and off again with, so essentially a single mom of two kids under 5. My guess is she will be escorting or will take being an SB seriously eventually.
[QUOTE=WarlockKy;6770770][URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/c73135771689bd03[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ac65f090-d8fb-447b-aa5d-c859802f6af2[/URL]
Anyone ever meet her?
Lists "curvy" and none of the pics are ever more than just her shoulders.[/QUOTE]She is real. She has a record. Her pics are heavily filtered. I can supply some PII / SM for contributing seniors.
BAM.
I chatted with this on via IG. She wants more than I can offer. Sounds like a serial SB:
"I've never had an arrangement under $2. 5-$3 k monthly. But I hope you find someone great!
BAM.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/da926757-cacb-46c0-9ee1-bd12d8681aef[/URL]
[QUOTE=BamBam;6771604]I chatted with this on via IG. She wants more than I can offer. Sounds like a serial SB:
"I've never had an arrangement under $2. 5-$3 k monthly. But I hope you find someone great!
BAM.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/da926757-cacb-46c0-9ee1-bd12d8681aef[/URL][/QUOTE]I wouldn't even go $300 ppm for that. For me, she's not that pretty. And I'm wondering in what universe she is considered a model.
[QUOTE=BamBam;6771590]She is real. She has a record. Her pics are heavily filtered. I can supply some PII / SM for contributing seniors.
BAM.[/QUOTE]I can confirm this. I saw her a while back a couple times before there were any reviews on here. After we agreed to a monthly she took it and disappeared, but said she would return it. After I asked for it back I got a BS response pretending to be her husband on her phone. I had her real name / info and then confirmed the record.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/835a9af7-ed05-46cd-8aa7-846ba91c210b[/URL]
Been talking to her and meeting this weekend. Any intel would be great. I'm mesmerized by those knockers. Jesus.
[QUOTE=JoeThighsMan;6772548][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/835a9af7-ed05-46cd-8aa7-846ba91c210b[/URL]
Been talking to her and meeting this weekend. Any intel would be great. I'm mesmerized by those knockers. Jesus.[/QUOTE]Her bio said something about meeting 2-3 times and paying before getting physical so I figured she was a rinser and didn't bother.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/888db06e-08ef-4c20-b8fd-122a30aa9279[/URL]
Any intel on this one. Seems I saw comments on her once, but can't recall or find them here. DM is fine as well.
[QUOTE=SixtyNineX10;6772855][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/888db06e-08ef-4c20-b8fd-122a30aa9279[/URL]
Any intel on this one. Seems I saw comments on her once, but can't recall or find them here. DM is fine as well.[/QUOTE]I'm interested as well, I spoke to her a few times and tried to set something up but then never heard back.
[QUOTE=ToddCincy;6766706]This girl.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/04f60834-552f-5c4e-4ce5-c58ddecd09a7[/URL]
Is also this girl.
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/azrealle[/URL]
Her Seeking profile dates back to 2014, and the main pic is relatively flattering. But based on some other photos of her, I believe it's about 10 years old. I've seen later photos in which her appearance is a lot rougher and a somewhat heavier.
Do a M&G before you agree to anything.[/QUOTE]I had some extensive text contact with her about 2 yrs ago. I didn't disclose to her that I'd learned she was escorting, but she was pretty straight forward about things. She seemed intriguing but I declined. I can't remember exactly why, but I think it was because she didn't allow kissing, and perhaps the price point. I agree, she's looking a bit rougher than earlier photos.
[QUOTE=Bbbloo;6772828]Her bio said something about meeting 2-3 times and paying before getting physical so I figured she was a rinser and didn't bother.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up. I pushed her a little bit and she said we could get physical after 4-5 months. Fuck that!
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f30415bf-6782-458b-90bc-f28462e0901c[/URL]
Not new but recently reactivated her account. She's been around before and I have her PI for anyone who wants it. Seems like a pretty strong GPS. Told me 200-500 just to meet for coffee. Not sure if things would even get physical with her. If anyone has anything else to add or any luck with her let me know!
[QUOTE=ToddCincy;6761442]I'm an older GenXer (born in the late 1960's). I agree that the Millennial SBs (aka "Generation Why Not") made the best SBs.
Between 2010 and 2017, there were a lot of quality young women on Seeking, most born between 1985 and 1996.
In 2024, though, most of the good ones from that crowd have married and settled down, or simply found careers that got them out of sugaring.
But there was more to the 2010's boom than birthrates. The whole sugar dating concept got a big boost in the media between 2009 and 2014 or so, much like that horrible Only Fools site is getting boosted in the media now.
Also, the unemployment rate hit 9. 9 percent in 2009. I was meeting a lot of college seniors from UC, Miami, and NKU who weren't getting jobs. For the past few years, the big companies have been swooping up those same students. (The unemployment rate is currently 3. 7 percent.).
Like so many of you, I don't like the Gen Z girls nearly as much.
In my experience, they are hyper-cautious and like to stay in their rooms.
Some of this can be blamed on the lockdowns of the pandemic period, which were so much of their formative years. But the blame can also be placed on their uptight Gen X parents (many of my friends) who helicopter-parented them.
The Millennials, by contrast, were largely raised by devil-may-care Boomers.
The Gen Z girls (at least the ones on Seeking) are a lot fatter as a group.
That all said, I want to leave you guys with a ray of hope. So here goes.
I used to dabble in the hobby in the early 2000's. I was in my 30's then. Most of the providers in those days were younger Gen Xers, often just a few years younger than me.
The girl market of the early 00's was not so great. At that time, the market looked a lot like it does now: all of the offerings were fat, rough, or way too expensive.
But in mid-2008, things took off, when the cash-hungry Millennial girls came on board. At first, that meant more high-quality, reasonably priced escorts. Then Seeking Arrangement exploded a few years later, between 2010 and 2012.
That's why I'm mostly holding on to my money until the supply situation changes. (The big problem now, on Seeking and elsewhere, is too many thirsty guys chasing too few quality girls.).
But what goes around, comes around. I've seen it happen before.[/QUOTE]Demographics matter, my man. Alot of those millenial 304's never got married or had kids. There are TONS of these people in my age group (I'm a millenial) literally doing nothing, not working or having kids. Its an apocalypse collapse of epic proportions, IMO.