[QUOTE=FredFourLess;4018177]Trust me that the ladies at Zen are much better looking on average; been both places tons of times. On average at Zen. Better massage, younger ladies, better english and convo / personality. I just like to mix it up is why I hit several places.[/QUOTE]Better massage? Neither place offers a real massage. They are fuck factories. I have never been to Kim's and have no interest in ever going there. Ew. But I have never gotten anything even close to a massage at Zen. I don't bother with Zen anymore so I guess for me it don't matter.