[QUOTE=Telcova;2407413]Looks like Relax has closed.[/QUOTE]Do you mean the AMP on Hunter Mill?
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[QUOTE=Telcova;2407413]Looks like Relax has closed.[/QUOTE]Do you mean the AMP on Hunter Mill?
[QUOTE=Guitarman1;2409259]That just shows that refusing to offer FS does not make an establishment any less likely to be raided. It is probably better if they just give us the services we want and make as much money as possible before the cops show up.[/QUOTE]I might be wrong, GMan, but I'm not so sure that occasional FS activity [U]wasn't[/U] occurring at that AMP. It's possible (or, from a snippet or two that I'd gleaned over the past year or so, probable) that a therapist there had been providing more than just NoVa finishes. It wasn't likely either of the two ladies whom the article mentioned, since they were merely cited for "maintaining a bawdy house" rather than "prostitution" or "illicit massage". Again, though, I could be flat out wrong on this. When I visited that facility about eight months ago, in order to see whether extra services might be available, the therapist only provided standard NoVa. So, I couldn't confirm or deny the rumors.
Just my two Denarii worth.
Roman.
[QUOTE=TedWilliams;2409767]I went recently to the back side of the building in hurndon again. I was hoping to get another flavor, but ended up with the same = June. To be brief, it was a copy and paste from my previous visit with her = standard NOVA. She was pleasant, did fine on the massage, and made sure I got a full hour and left happily, stress free. However, I did go when it was slow and had a tad more attention (June made sure it was a full hr). Plus, it was freezing cold outside with snow and the mistake I made was I got a TS and became a human ice cube and the hot towels she brang only marginally helped. Next time I will shower at gym if its winter and that is the lesson I learned here.
Good day.[/QUOTE]Following up on Teddy Ballgame's recent "chilling" experience, I'd like to make a suggestion for future reviews of the AMPs we visit. It's only a suggestion, but it's a starting point on which we should be able to build. Here's what I mean:
Many moons ago, one longtime monger began using the [B]FBAS[/B] criteria ([B]F[/B]ace, [B]B[/B]ody, [B]A[/B]ttitude, and [B]S[/B]ervice) to grade the therapists he saw on each visit, and he would assign a numerical score from 1 to 10 to each criterion. It was only subjective, since it's nearly impossible to quantify those criteria in order to fit every monger's tastes. Beauty and the eye of the beholder, as the expression goes. Still, the rating system generally worked and allowed other mongers to have an idea ahead of time as to the overall quality of the therapist.
However, one thing that's generally omitted from our reports concerns the overall quality of the AMP itself. While reports will occasionally mention a disappointing or unfavorable aspect of the particular AMP (for instance, Ted's freezing experience in the TS), there is seldom any comprehensive or consistent assessment of the AMP facility as a whole. So, with that in mind, here's what I propose we begin including in our reports, as best we're able to recall or notice them:
[B]Exterior[/B]
- [U]Parking[/U]: Availability and general safety of the area (nighttime).
- [U]Entrance[/U]: Is it situated along a heavily traveled walkway or tucked away? Is there an outer and inner door? Basically, is it discreet or not?
[B]Interior[/B]
- [U]Cleanliness[/U]: What is the overall tidiness of the AMP? Does it look like it needs to be vacuumed? Is there any "odd" aromas?
- [U]Shower Room[/U]: Is one available and, if so, is it DIY or TS? What is its overall state? (I remember one long ago AMP, that had a DIY shower stall with multiple layers of mildew on the floor of the stall. Just thinking about the possibility of instant athlete's foot or other skin diseases still gives me the shudders.).
- [U]Sauna[/U]: Is one available? Does it smell clean or 'sweaty'? (Again, another AMP of long ago had a sauna with a distinct smell of urine, obviously from a lowlife monger that didn't want to walk to or ask to use the restroom.).
- [U]Water Temperature[/U]: Basically, was the TS too hot, too cold, or "just right"? (Think: Goldilocks and the Three Bears. Or provide your own adaptation for that analogy.).
- [U]Air Temperature[/U]: It's a little difficult to determine this when you've just returned from the TS, but what was the general temperature of the AMP itself? Did it seem like MMS was interested in saving on the heating or cooling bills, or was the air temperature comfortable for the entire visit? (In other words, you weren't shivering or sweating due to inadequate climate control appropriate to the season.).
- [U]Bathroom[/U]: What was its general condition. Good, bad, or ugly? (This would be a subjective call.).
- [U]Sheets/Towels[/U]: Did the table sheets and towels seem new? Did the therapist dispose of the sheets / towels at the end of your session, or did she replace them on the table and merely "smooth them out"?
- [U]Room Privacy[/U]: Was there a door or just curtains for the room? Did the room walls go all the way to the ceiling, or were they only partial walls? Were any "noises" audible from the adjacent room (s)?
- [U]Final Amenities[/U]: Did the therapist bring hot towels and / or a bottle of water at the end of your session?
There you have it: my suggestions for "standardizing" our AMP reviews. I don't present it as the end-all and be-all of criteria, and others may have additional points to offer. Still, if we start to include these items in our future reports, we'll all be able to have a better idea of the quality of the AMP (assuming that all other things, namely the therapists, are equal or approximately so). So, tell me what you think, or just being incorporating these items as best you can remember them. Or, just tell me to go pound sand or maybe my favorite MMS. Your choice.
Roman.
[QUOTE=DrBombay;2411873]Do you mean the AMP on Hunter Mill?[/QUOTE]I think the girls have moved to a place in Reston, near South Lakes & Reston Parkway. A bit pricey, however, so I declined.
[QUOTE=TedWilliams;2409767]I went recently to the back side of the building in hurndon again. I was hoping to get another flavor, but ended up with the same = June....[/QUOTE]June left a bad taste in my mouth. Too greedy for the tip she wanted in response to the service she provided on my last visit there. She gave me the old lecture of trying to say what the "standard tip rate" is in this area. Whatever LOL.
[QUOTE=Krzyazn128;2191409]Closed down this past weekend. Crackdown by VA cops. Bastards. They are hitting all the low budget asian escorts.[/QUOTE]What a shame. I'm returning to the area for a few days and was looking forward to reaching out to them. Guess the hunt continues.
[QUOTE=RoaminRoman;2412228]I might be wrong, GMan, but I'm not so sure that occasional FS activity [U]wasn't[/U] occurring at that AMP. It's possible (or, from a snippet or two that I'd gleaned over the past year or so, probable) that a therapist there had been providing more than just NoVa finishes. It wasn't likely either of the two ladies whom the article mentioned, since they were merely cited for "maintaining a bawdy house" rather than "prostitution" or "illicit massage". Again, though, I could be flat out wrong on this. When I visited that facility about eight months ago, in order to see whether extra services might be available, the therapist only provided standard NoVa. So, I couldn't confirm or deny the rumors.
Just my two Denarii worth.
Roman.[/QUOTE]It just seems to me that these places are being raided with similar frequency as when they were offering FS. If the cops in whatever county want to crack down they will. I think is all dependent on location and local law enforcement, not as much about the services. Places like Herndon, Woodbridge, Manassas have been tough on these places in recent years. I could be wrong though, for all I know these local politicians and police officers could have an unofficial HJ only rule.
Up north where I am originally from all of the places are HJ only and still get raided depending on the whims of local police. Years ago I was able to get whatever I wanted. Now this no FS thing seems to be spreading.
[QUOTE=Nyhornet;2402708]I've known KK for years. Back to when she shared the house with Zaza.
KK uses her real photo in her Craigslist and BP ads, but she Does Not like to be reviewed.
I will only say she is very experienced and gives a great massage.[/QUOTE]Nyhornet- I have been busy with business on the west coast, (just flew back in Thursday), I have yet to visit ZaZa. I definitely want to see her again. Is she still at the same place? If she is not, please pm as I would greatly appreciate it my friend. Thanks.
Propilot-Always check your six.
Hey Rod, I have always liked your posts as they focus on AMPs and the info has been on point.
I will be in Warrenton / Culpeper and will have some time and wonder if there is any current info.
I have always had good luck at places where others haven't. I guess its my.
Advancing years 68 yo and that I am doing my share of touching patting and.
Hand holding early enough in the session to make sure my message is received.
I always have had good luck at the original Vivi but found that they were more into upsell.
And locked in on a minimal $50 tip. Now with their move I am not so sure if all is as it was.
Anyone's help will be appreciated. Thanks.
[QUOTE=SSRod;2335233]I stopped into the two locations recently, both in one night, given the low introductory. 45 for an hour massage on all visits to both locals to date.
540-321-4332, Zen Reflexology & spa, located on north main st. , big glass windows that anyone walking on main st can see through to the curtain partitions where just enough room exists to walk alongside the massage table, nowhere to place clothing other than floor, which the lady annoyingly stepped on repeatedly to get to the oil bottle and that side of my body, operated by an older asian couple, possibly husband and wife combo, female gave me the massage. Good massage, has an "egg timer" that rings when the hour is up. Given the setup, left underpants on, but she took them off within 5 minutes time (kind of funny), some teasing got my gun-for-fun popping out from towel, she was obviously looking, getting hands very close, but no contact. While I was getting clothing back on (not sure, but probable) she may have recorded some / all of the massage, as she was showing the older man something on her phone, he asked her if this was just now, she said yes, they seemed amused, and quickly closed the phone as I approached to pay. Do not plan to repeat, but might given the low price for a good massage. Unsure about the phone / camera deal.
540-497-2836, located on s east st, rooms with doors, (again) operated by older asian couple, possibly husband and wife combo, but they have new younger talent now performing the massage. My first visit was the old lady, who is fairly attractive, cone shaped somewhat perky breasts (bra-less low top), roaming allowed, standard nova he plus. 4 and I wanted to repeat regardless of her age, but have not seen her since. Next visit was younger asian gal, a bit plump, less attractive to me, decent massage with no he, the older man was there to collect the massage fee, plus. 1 tip to the gal. Third visit was even younger asian gal, pretty, spinner, legit massage, my gun-for-fun popped out from towel, some brief hand bumping, but no he, plus. 1 tip. Plan to repeat.
Ads for both can be found in F'burg CL therapeutic.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RoaminRoman;2412282]Following up on Teddy Ballgame's recent "chilling" experience, I'd like to make a suggestion for future reviews of the AMPs we visit. It's only a suggestion, but it's a starting point on which we should be able to build. Here's what I mean:
Many moons ago, one longtime monger began using the [B]FBAS[/B] criteria ([B]F[/B]ace, [B]B[/B]ody, [B]A[/B]ttitude, and [B]S[/B]ervice) to grade the therapists he saw on each visit, and he would assign a numerical score from 1 to 10 to each criterion. It was only subjective, since it's nearly impossible to quantify those criteria in order to fit every monger's tastes. Beauty and the eye of the beholder, as the expression goes. Still, the rating system generally worked and allowed other mongers to have an idea ahead of time as to the overall quality of the therapist.
However, one thing that's generally omitted from our reports concerns the overall quality of the AMP itself. While reports will occasionally mention a disappointing or unfavorable aspect of the particular AMP (for instance, Ted's freezing experience in the TS), there is seldom any comprehensive or consistent assessment of the AMP facility as a whole. So, with that in mind, here's what I propose we begin including in our reports, as best we're able to recall or notice them:
[B]Exterior[/B]
- [U]Parking[/U]: Availability and general safety of the area (nighttime).
- [U]Entrance[/U]: Is it situated along a heavily traveled walkway or tucked away? Is there an outer and inner door? Basically, is it discreet or not?
[B]Interior[/B]
- [U]Cleanliness[/U]: What is the overall tidiness of the AMP? Does it look like it needs to be vacuumed? Is there any "odd" aromas?
- [U]Shower Room[/U]: Is one available and, if so, is it DIY or TS? What is its overall state? (I remember one long ago AMP, that had a DIY shower stall with multiple layers of mildew on the floor of the stall. Just thinking about the possibility of instant athlete's foot or other skin diseases still gives me the shudders.).
- [U]Sauna[/U]: Is one available? Does it smell clean or 'sweaty'? (Again, another AMP of long ago had a sauna with a distinct smell of urine, obviously from a lowlife monger that didn't want to walk to or ask to use the restroom.).
- [U]Water Temperature[/U]: Basically, was the TS too hot, too cold, or "just right"? (Think: Goldilocks and the Three Bears. Or provide your own adaptation for that analogy.).
- [U]Air Temperature[/U]: It's a little difficult to determine this when you've just returned from the TS, but what was the general temperature of the AMP itself? Did it seem like MMS was interested in saving on the heating or cooling bills, or was the air temperature comfortable for the entire visit? (In other words, you weren't shivering or sweating due to inadequate climate control appropriate to the season.).
- [U]Bathroom[/U]: What was its general condition. Good, bad, or ugly? (This would be a subjective call.).
- [U]Sheets/Towels[/U]: Did the table sheets and towels seem new? Did the therapist dispose of the sheets / towels at the end of your session, or did she replace them on the table and merely "smooth them out"?
- [U]Room Privacy[/U]: Was there a door or just curtains for the room? Did the room walls go all the way to the ceiling, or were they only partial walls? Were any "noises" audible from the adjacent room (s)?
- [U]Final Amenities[/U]: Did the therapist bring hot towels and / or a bottle of water at the end of your session?
There you have it: my suggestions for "standardizing" our AMP reviews. I don't present it as the end-all and be-all of criteria, and others may have additional points to offer. Still, if we start to include these items in our future reports, we'll all be able to have a better idea of the quality of the AMP (assuming that all other things, namely the therapists, are equal or approximately so). So, tell me what you think, or just being incorporating these items as best you can remember them. Or, just tell me to go pound sand or maybe my favorite MMS. Your choice.
Roman.[/QUOTE]Beautiful.
-Z.
Nuru vs Tantra vs Body to Body?
I have been wanting to try one of these but the descriptions on these can be vague. What is the difference between them? Who do you recommend I see for each or all?
[QUOTE=Skooby;2420645]Nuru vs Tantra vs Body to Body?
I have been wanting to try one of these but the descriptions on these can be vague. What is the difference between them? Who do you recommend I see for each or all?[/QUOTE]Depending on provider, they can be pretty much all the same. I asked one and that is what she said!
Go to post 7960 in this thread for a goodexperience. No FS but you will leave very educated.
Happy Guy 2.
[QUOTE=Roger1286;2420189] ...I will be in Warrenton / Culpeper and will have some time and wonder if there is any current info... [/QUOTE]
Warrenton has two places. Lily's Spa (old Vivi location second floor elevator ride), and Vivi (new location near the Food Lion shopping center). Both have a 0. 7 entry fee paid up front, table shower, mileage varies on the roaming, not sure about NOVA anymore, add a 0.2 to 0. 4 tip for their time and attentiveness unless some other amount is warranted, both establishments are well kept and have a very nice appearance, tables, sheets, towels all appear good and clean, the gals sometimes protest if they think more tip is warranted, and I have also heard them say that 0.5 is typical, which I have paid if I felt warranted, but hold your ground if justified in your mind, I will banter with them a bit if they ask for more, "I'll take it (my hand held out)", after a pause, they may counter with "you bring more next time", "you treat me better next time", "you too cheap", "bye-bye", and then I may try for a hug to see how upset they are, which ranges from folded arms to a hug, so far I have been welcomed back on return visits, but have not visited them in a long time, so my info is dated and YMMV, but my guess is one or both will be your 'odds on favorite' in the area if the price is reasonable.
Culpeper has two places, Royal spa on south E st, and the Zen Reflex spa on Main Street. Both have a 0. 45 entry fee (introductory price that continues to hold), no / no table shower, mileage varies on the roaming by the gal and no/no NOVA, 0. 1 to 0. 2 tip for their time and attentiveness. The massage varies at E second, ask for Cindy who is the best there IMHO (unless the old lady returns), big rooms with doors, the place is somewhat a dump in appearances, but table, sheets, towels all seem good and clean, racks to hang your clothes on are falling apart, but do the job, the guy offered me a massage once when the gal was busy, but I politely refused and left, funds is collected at the end by the guy who is usually there, but Cindy sometimes collects herself. The massage on Main St by the gal with curled hair is very good, don't know her name, she's been the only gal there during my visits, they now have a place to hang your clothes on wall hooks, still curtain partitions, unsure about original post of sessions being recorded, but I don't think so, I looked up several times and saw nothing abnormal, still uses an egg timer, funds is collected at the end by the guy if there, or the gal.
Have a good one // SS.
[QUOTE=SSRod;2423095]Warrenton has two places. Lily's Spa (old Vivi location second floor elevator ride), and Vivi (new location near the Food Lion shopping center). Both have a 0. 7 entry fee paid up front, table shower, mileage varies on the roaming, not sure about NOVA anymore, add a 0.2 to 0. 4 tip for their time and attentiveness unless some other amount is warranted, both establishments are well kept and have a very nice appearance, tables, sheets, towels all appear good and clean, the gals sometimes protest if they think more tip is warranted, and I have also heard them say that 0.5 is typical, which I have paid if I felt warranted, but hold your ground if justified in your mind, I will banter with them a bit if they ask for more, "I'll take it (my hand held out)", after a pause, they may counter with "you bring more next time", "you treat me better next time", "you too cheap", "bye-bye", and then I may try for a hug to see how upset they are, which ranges from folded arms to a hug, so far I have been welcomed back on return visits, but have not visited them in a long time, so my info is dated and YMMV, but my guess is one or both will be your 'odds on favorite' in the area if the price is reasonable.
Culpeper has two places, Royal spa on south E st, and the Zen Reflex spa on Main Street. Both have a 0. 45 entry fee (introductory price that continues to hold), no / no table shower, mileage varies on the roaming by the gal and no/no NOVA, 0. 1 to 0. 2 tip for their time and attentiveness. The massage varies at E second, ask for Cindy who is the best there IMHO (unless the old lady returns), big rooms with doors, the place is somewhat a dump in appearances, but table, sheets, towels all seem good and clean, racks to hang your clothes on are falling apart, but do the job, the guy offered me a massage once when the gal was busy, but I politely refused and left, funds is collected at the end by the guy who is usually there, but Cindy sometimes collects herself. The massage on Main St by the gal with curled hair is very good, don't know her name, she's been the only gal there during my visits, they now have a place to hang your clothes on wall hooks, still curtain partitions, unsure about original post of sessions being recorded, but I don't think so, I looked up several times and saw nothing abnormal, still uses an egg timer, funds is collected at the end by the guy if there, or the gal.
Have a good one // SS.[/QUOTE]Hey Rod, Thanks for taking the time to post such comprehensive info. I ended up at Royal a couple of days ago and got an older very attractive conservatively dressed
curly black short-haired gal. I got a wonderful good massage, carefully done. Her massage strokes had a nice slower strong pace that gave me some optimism. As I was laying there I thought this is
worth it, in and of itself, which is a good thing as that was all it was. She spoke and understood virtually no English. I think her 5 word vocabulary included: OK, Nice, You like, Thanks-you.
I paid the man as I left and gave her a tip for being nice. . 45 +. 20 = . 65.
I will likely not return. Using the Dos Equis metaphor: I don't always do massage, but when I do I prefer Happy Ending.
Decided to take a stroll through the garden on Saturday. The one near the pine tree. Stopped at the pine tree first but no one answered, so I decided to relax in the garden.
Very clean and professional looking establishment. Licenses clearly visible. Large true massage tables.
I met a very attractive, thin, and older but youthful-looking mamasan. She seemed to be the only one there. I opted for a one hour stay. Very warm, sudsy, and attentive table shower to clean me up to start.
Massage was good. She did excellent work on my feet. She did the backwalking thing but I have come to realize I really just don't like it. A really nice finish. Either I sent the wrong signals or she was a fan of rosebuds, but either way it worked.
I would strongly consider heading there again.
Was greeted and serviced by MMS. Massage was great while being asked the typical LE questions: Where are you from, have you been here before, have you had massage before, from where? I passed.
Got Sunny, Fairly good looking Asian girl. She is great with her hands, though, and she really put the hand of God on my body. I felt renewed and reformed by the time she was done with me.
Highly recommend. Good service with no rushing!
[QUOTE=Skooby;2420645]Nuru vs Tantra vs Body to Body?
I have been wanting to try one of these but the descriptions on these can be vague. What is the difference between them? Who do you recommend I see for each or all?[/QUOTE]Depends on the provider as some have coined the terms but don't actually provide what they market. Nuru is supposed to have a body gel and they rub you by using their body against yours. There was one or two providers that advertised nuru about a year ago and it seemed like they were legit. I did not visit.
Tantra is a mental thing. So like finding your inner self through meditation and sexual exploration. S I saw one lady that is in Reston. She moved overseas but comes back every few months. She posts her ads so you should be able to find her if your intrested. I didn't think it was worth it but I only saw her once.
Body to body could be nuru or just imply mutual touching but I haven't been to a place that said b2 b.
Report back if you explore.
The ultimate in FBSM is when you get a great massage and great extras. Unfortunately, it's not that often you find that combination and the result is you end up getting your massage fix and your extras fix separately. One problem with that approach is that it's more expensive so I'm always on the lookout for a good deal on the legit massage side because the FBSM prices don't usually change much. Just found this deal for legit massage and it happens to be at one of my favorite places.
[URL]http://gr.pn/1H7F7Jn[/URL]
I've seen all the therapists at that spa and they're all cute, Chinese women in their 20's to 40's who give a great massage. Full disclosure. I'm a regular client but I have no financial stake in the place. My reason for posting is just to share good info at a (for today only) great price.
Please note that unless they extend, the deal expires at midnight tonight.
PM if you have any questions but please don't ask if any of the girls do extras because they don't. This post is strictly for those mongers who are looking for a good place to get their legit massage fix.
[QUOTE=Skooby;2420645]Nuru vs Tantra vs Body to Body?
I have been wanting to try one of these but the descriptions on these can be vague. What is the difference between them? Who do you recommend I see for each or all?[/QUOTE]Nuru: The real thing is pretty rare and tends to be on the expensive side. The set up is more involved (need a waterproof sheet or mattress) and authentic Nuru gel is not cheap. There also needs to be a shower available because the gel is super slippery and needs to be washed off after. And Nuru doesn't mean you'll get a better quality of extras. My last Nuru massage was a fully nude body to body slide but even with that there was limited touching allowed and a mediocre ending. IMHO, sometimes Nuru providers think the Nuru is all that's needed and don't put a lot of effort into the finish. Most of the Nuru that's currently advertised on BP is not the real thing and is just a marketing ploy to get you to call.
Tantra: IME, most providers who advertise Tantra are full of crap and have probably just read a little about it in a book or on a website. What you're likely to get, unless you really do your homework, is an overpriced FBSM (often fully clothed) with a lot of New Age talk about energy, breathing and Chakras. I've had a couple of authentic Tantra experiences in SFO and Santa Cruz, CA and they were good but not worth the money I paid. Unfortunately, like the Nuru providers, too often the Tantrikas don't focus on extras because they feel their real value is in helping you get in touch with yourself or in "releasing your blocked energy" and that those things are worth the higher $ they charge. They also may not be very good at massage and you may find yourself lying there for extended periods of time with them just talking or telling you to focus on your breathing. One final note is that true Tantra providers often require longer minimum sessions (2-3 hrs) which can get pretty expensive.
Body to Body: This just describes providers who get topless or fully nude and rub themselves on you in some fashion. Once again, it all depends on the quality of the massage and extras. Do your homework and you may be able to find some real gems at decent prices.
Bottom line: Whatever floats your boat but I don't recommend spending more $ for Nuru or Tantra unless you find a provider with good reviews for both the (real) Nuru or Tantra part as well as high marks for the extras. For regular FBSM, including body to body, my recommendation is to check the oThER site and this forum for recommendations and reviews.
Happy hunting and stay safe!
[QUOTE=Propilot;2417075]Nyhornet- I have been busy with business on the west coast, (just flew back in Thursday), I have yet to visit ZaZa. I definitely want to see her again. Is she still at the same place? If she is not, please pm as I would greatly appreciate it my friend. Thanks.
Propilot-Always check your six.[/QUOTE]Zaza moved to Chantilly a few years ago, and last year she moved on to a 'legit' massage location in Sterling. I visited her once. She doesn't give the same 'routine' at the end as she did before.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;2429262]The ultimate in FBSM is when you get a great massage and great extras. Unfortunately, it's not that often you find that combination and the result is you end up getting your massage fix and your extras fix separately. One problem with that approach is that it's more expensive so I'm always on the lookout for a good deal on the legit massage side because the FBSM prices don't usually change much. Just found this deal for legit massage and it happens to be at one of my favorite places.
[URL]http://gr.pn/1H7F7Jn[/URL]
I've seen all the therapists at that spa and they're all cute, Chinese women in their 20's to 40's who give a great massage. Full disclosure. I'm a regular client but I have no financial stake in the place. My reason for posting is just to share good info at a (for today only) great price.
Please note that unless they extend, the deal expires at midnight tonight.
PM if you have any questions but please don't ask if any of the girls do extras because they don't. This post is strictly for those mongers who are looking for a good place to get their legit massage fix.[/QUOTE]While everything I said about this spa is true, I wrongly thought the discount applied to their regular massage but instead discovered (as I went to buy for myself) that it was only for reflexology. That makes it not so much of a good deal. My bad. . . Apologies to the forum.
Almost didn't want to give this review because I hate to see a good thing get burned. But, having seen many of others reviews on here, it seems only fair.
I've been to about half a dozen local AMP and by far, this is my favorite place. I don't understand half the lingo used on this forum, so just going to speak plainly.
I can't find a recent ad for this place but its in Woodbridge on Opitz.
Exterior.
- Parking: Plenty of parking because it's in an office / dental / doctor type complex. Safe area.
- Entrance: The sign on the door says "Massage" and the windows / doors are otherwise covered. As mentioned, the complex is a little busy because of the other offices.
Interior.
- Cleanliness: Rooms and entrance are clean and well kept. Never noticed an odor or trash.
- Shower Room: Dunno, I shower beforehand.
- Sauna: and / A.
- Water Temperature: and / A.
- Air Temperature: They've got small heaters in each room and typically keep it around 75 degrees or so. It's always comfortable.
- Bathroom: Eh, it's a bathroom. Nothing special.
- Sheets / Towels: The tables are massage tables and I can tell the top "sheet" is new because they rip the hole for the face when you enter. Who knows about the towels underneath. I have seen a washing machine in one of the rooms previously when walking past an open door.
- Room Privacy: The rooms are actual rooms with doors and walls that go the entire way to the ceilings. I've been in other AMPs where I could hear what was going on in other rooms; that's not the case here.
- Final Amenities: They always offer a bottle of water when you roll out.
There are two girls that work there. The first time I went I had Amy, a early 40 ish yo Asian girl who is maybe a 6, speaks little to no English and gives a good massage. I always get light ones with oil and am buck naked, minus the towel covering my backside, when they start. That way they know early on I'm not a LEO. She explores well and on the flip, gets down to business. On the first visit, she allowed OTC roaming but has since allowed me to road UTC and give a little mouth love to the tits. No rush on the ending.
I went again this week and Amy wasn't available so I had Sasha (I think). She's a late 30 yo, 7-8 with a cute body. Her massage didn't roam quite as massage but was still good. On the flip, she roamed and when it was time to get down to business, she didn't rush at all. She really took her time and it was excellent; she allowed OTC roaming as well. She seemed very into it. It was nice for a NOVA ending for sure and I hope I get her next time, though Amy is good to.
$70 for an hour and usually tip 40-50.
I'm to lazy to proofread this so don't mind spelling / grammatical errors.
I have to be in the area on business and will be staying in a hotel very close to Dulles. Time will be tight so I don't have the ability to travel far from where I'm staying. I'm looking for a MP very close to Dulles that will provide a good, stress relieving experience. From reading this forum it does not sound like FS is on the table (pun intended). What are your best suggestions?
Alternately, if someone has a suggestion about a FS MILF experience, that would be welcome too.
I'm from up north and will be happy to return the favor. PM or public as appropriate.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=JamieSmit;2430323]Almost didn't want to give this review because I hate to see a good thing get burned. But, having seen many of others reviews on here, it seems only fair.
I've been to about half a dozen local AMP and by far, this is my favorite place. I don't understand half the lingo used on this forum, so just going to speak plainly.
I can't find a recent ad for this place but its in Woodbridge on Opitz.
Exterior.
- Parking: Plenty of parking because it's in an office / dental / doctor type complex. Safe area.
- Entrance: The sign on the door says "Massage" and the windows / doors are otherwise covered. As mentioned, the complex is a little busy because of the other offices.
Interior.
- Cleanliness: Rooms and entrance are clean and well kept. Never noticed an odor or trash.
- Shower Room: Dunno, I shower beforehand.
- Sauna: and / A.
- Water Temperature: and / A.
- Air Temperature: They've got small heaters in each room and typically keep it around 75 degrees or so. It's always comfortable.
- Bathroom: Eh, it's a bathroom. Nothing special.
- Sheets / Towels: The tables are massage tables and I can tell the top "sheet" is new because they rip the hole for the face when you enter. Who knows about the towels underneath. I have seen a washing machine in one of the rooms previously when walking past an open door.
- Room Privacy: The rooms are actual rooms with doors and walls that go the entire way to the ceilings. I've been in other AMPs where I could hear what was going on in other rooms; that's not the case here.
- Final Amenities: They always offer a bottle of water when you roll out.
There are two girls that work there. The first time I went I had Amy, a early 40 ish yo Asian girl who is maybe a 6, speaks little to no English and gives a good massage. I always get light ones with oil and am buck naked, minus the towel covering my backside, when they start. That way they know early on I'm not a LEO. She explores well and on the flip, gets down to business. On the first visit, she allowed OTC roaming but has since allowed me to road UTC and give a little mouth love to the tits. No rush on the ending.
I went again this week and Amy wasn't available so I had Sasha (I think). She's a late 30 yo, 7-8 with a cute body. Her massage didn't roam quite as massage but was still good. On the flip, she roamed and when it was time to get down to business, she didn't rush at all. She really took her time and it was excellent; she allowed OTC roaming as well. She seemed very into it. It was nice for a NOVA ending for sure and I hope I get her next time, though Amy is good to.
$70 for an hour and usually tip 40-50.
I'm to lazy to proofread this so don't mind spelling / grammatical errors.[/QUOTE]This is an excellent review. Plain English is fine. All of us now know what to expect when we go so very good job. I know some want very detailed info but I'm more of a "less is more" type of guy: give the obvious details that it's a stress relieving place, extras, location, provider name when available or at least description, and I'll handle the rest. I don't mind taking one for the team because odds are 8/9 out of 10 it will be standard in NOVA. I also appreciate bad reviews or warnings of places to avoid: spas with dirty towels (sorry guys, I know my hygiene, not yours), mean / complaining women, or any other issue that could affect my general well-being.
Forgot. I really appreciate info, in any respect, about neighborhoods being safe.
Then again, that's my 2 cents. Worth the paper it was written on and it wasn't.
[QUOTE=JoeMuckInFutch;2430592]I have to be in the area on business and will be staying in a hotel very close to Dulles. Time will be tight so I don't have the ability to travel far from where I'm staying. I'm looking for a MP very close to Dulles that will provide a good, stress relieving experience. From reading this forum it does not sound like FS is on the table (pun intended). What are your best suggestions?
Alternately, if someone has a suggestion about a FS MILF experience, that would be welcome too.
I'm from up north and will be happy to return the favor. PM or public as appropriate.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I sent you a couple of leads, although Dulles is a bit outside my zone. You might also get additional response (s) if you advise whether you'll have access to a car and whether outcall to your hotel is a possibility.
There are additional options in Chantilly, Reston, Herndon, etc. But it's tough to recommend those without knowing how far you're able to roam.
Happy hunting and stay safe!
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;2431960]I sent you a couple of leads, although Dulles is a bit outside my zone. You might also get additional response (s) if you advise whether you'll have access to a car and whether outcall to your hotel is a possibility.
There are additional options in Chantilly, Reston, Herndon, etc. But it's tough to recommend those without knowing how far you're able to roam.
Happy hunting and stay safe![/QUOTE]JM,
Send me a few as I'm back in this hell hole for a week or so LOL.
Anyhow, hope your hunting is going good.
PC out.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;2431960]I sent you a couple of leads, although Dulles is a bit outside my zone. You might also get additional response (s) if you advise whether you'll have access to a car and whether outcall to your hotel is a possibility.
There are additional options in Chantilly, Reston, Herndon, etc. But it's tough to recommend those without knowing how far you're able to roam.
Happy hunting and stay safe![/QUOTE]Thanks. I have a car, just not a lot of free time. That's why I want it to be close. Outcall not an option.
[QUOTE=FunSex;2429388]Zaza moved to Chantilly a few years ago, and last year she moved on to a 'legit' massage location in Sterling. I visited her once. She doesn't give the same 'routine' at the end as she did before.[/QUOTE]Funsex, it's ok with me that Zaza has moved on to a "legit " massage location. I'm also ok that she does not give the same routine at the end that she used to give before. She is a sweet girl and a good friend, and it would just be nice to see her again.
Propilot-Always check your six.
[QUOTE=Propilot;2433052]Funsex, it's ok with me that Zaza has moved on to a "legit " massage location. I'm also ok that she does not give the same routine at the end that she used to give before. She is a sweet girl and a good friend, and it would just be nice to see her again.
Propilot-Always check your six.[/QUOTE]I just PMed you her info. Have a good time.
I made an appt w / Kandi in hurndon (C+C) based on other mongers suggestions this time instead of June. Kandi seems a bit younger than June, slightly shorter, cuter face, smaller cup size (more natural there, June has silicone), and flat rear. The building has parking in front and side and the entrance is discreet as its in back of building for those unfamiliar. There is two door entrance with bell. Place is clean with no overwhelming odor. The shower area / table is clean and the room and water temp are fine. This is not the case in the winter time as it's very cold so please be aware. There is no sauna. I didn't use the bathroom. Towels seem fresh and are changed before leaving. They were also using laundry machine when I was leaving. (noticed them folding lots of towels) There are actual rooms with doors that fully close for privacy. Bottle water is offered at end and so is hand sanitizer.
As for massage I will say Kandi is very firm and does well. I felt like jello when she was done with the back walking, knees, and elbows. The massage was so thorough that the flip was a little short and the soft touch last briefly as we went to close to the hour. I had to finish too quickly, but it was still a happy ending. Roaming was permitted, but the firm massage was the focus for her and left small opportunity for the flip / soft touch. If you want a firm massage she is the choice here.
Good Day.
[QUOTE=FunSex;2433202]I just PMed you her info. Have a good time.[/QUOTE]Thank you my friend. I owe you a beer.
Propilot-Always check your six.
Had a nice visit in Herndon on Sunset, I think it was. K-girl, young, 5'6" with beautiful Bees.
Based on the intel posted, went to pay a visit to see+see. Was closed. Anyone know if they got shut down or just taking a break?
Ended up at RTC on Sunset and drew a nice looking Korean girl with wavy black hair and great personality. Sorry fellows, got stupid and forgot to get her name.
Back walk was excellent, but other than that massage was weak. Ending was very nice standard and not sure if more was on the table. Didn't ask. Roaming was encouraged.
$80 at the door, and she bitched about $50 tip. I told her when you get stronger hands talk to me, other wise give the tip back or shut it. She was not happy, but at least she didn't do the mood kill negotiation up front.
[QUOTE=FunSex;2429388]Zaza moved to Chantilly a few years ago, and last year she moved on to a 'legit' massage location in Sterling. I visited her once. She doesn't give the same 'routine' at the end as she did before.[/QUOTE]I've thought about going to see Zaza at her new place, but wasn't sure how she feels about seeing old customers, even though we had a friendly relationship. Did she seem fine with you showing up?
[QUOTE=TedWilliams;2433821]I made an appt w / Kandi in hurndon (C+C) based on other mongers suggestions this time instead of June. Kandi seems a bit younger than June, slightly shorter, cuter face, smaller cup size (more natural there, June has silicone).[/QUOTE]I love her tiny boobs. My second time with her involved ample nursing.
I received a PM a few weeks ago from a respected senior in which he said he received a surprise NOVA finish at EW. I happened to be in the area last week with some time to kill so I thought I would give them a try. Unfortunately the masseuse from the report was no longer there so I opted for the 49.99 soft swedish special with a different masseuse. No joy from that therapist so I then decided to give the other one a whirl. Did a second hour of deep tissue but once again everything was totally legit with no hint of extras.
Both masseuses were probably in their late 30's to mid 40's and were the only two working. So, unless someone else has a recent experience with a different result, my conclusion is that no extras are on the menu at this place. On the positive side, both massages were very good and worth the $ spent. And even though I prefer a deeper massage, the soft swedish was pretty good.
Happy hunting and stay safe!
[QUOTE=Nyhornet;2439112]I've thought about going to see Zaza at her new place, but wasn't sure how she feels about seeing old customers, even though we had a friendly relationship. Did she seem fine with you showing up?[/QUOTE]Whatever reasons Zaza had for switching to legit massage, one definite result is that she makes less per customer. I haven't made the visit yet because it's a little far for me, but my guess is she would appreciate business from former clients as long as they are polite and respectful of her decisions and her new situation.
If you do pay her a visit, let us know how it went.
P.S. All of the above also applies to Magic, who has also made the transition to legit-only.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;2440525]Whatever reasons Zaza had for switching to legit massage, one definite result is that she makes less per customer. I haven't made the visit yet because it's a little far for me, but my guess is she would appreciate business from former clients as long as they are polite and respectful of her decisions and her new situation.
If you do pay her a visit, let us know how it went.
P.S. All of the above also applies to Magic, who has also made the transition to legit-only.[/QUOTE]I had heard that Magic got married, which would explain selling her place and going legit. I also had heard there may have been some legal problems as far as proper licensing to work, from home, but don't know if that is fact. Zaza being the sweet lady she is may have just tired of the whole deal, plus not having a place to host. I had wondered if she might reunite with KK, but didn't happen.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;2440519]I received a PM a few weeks ago from a respected senior in which he said he received a surprise NOVA finish at EW. I happened to be in the area last week with some time to kill so I thought I would give them a try. Unfortunately the masseuse from the report was no longer there so I opted for the 49.99 soft swedish special with a different masseuse. No joy from that therapist so I then decided to give the other one a whirl. Did a second hour of deep tissue but once again everything was totally legit with no hint of extras.
Both masseuses were probably in their late 30's to mid 40's and were the only two working. So, unless someone else has a recent experience with a different result, my conclusion is that no extras are on the menu at this place. On the positive side, both massages were very good and worth the $ spent. And even though I prefer a deeper massage, the soft swedish was pretty good.
Happy hunting and stay safe![/QUOTE]I almost went to East Wing today, too, as I know the owner and she gives a great, but only therapeutic massage. Ms he is the person shown in her ad. There used to be a lady there a couple of years ago, that would be more fun, but she's been gone for quite some time. EW remains a good spot for a nice massage, but nothing else. Of course you never know when he new staff member, might provide more.