Sugarbabies?

[QUOTE=KyMike53;6737677][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ee030cef-689e-4c6c-a3a4-3264a7e4834f[/URL]

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/tiffanybluee[/URL]

Tiffany has been on Tryst for quite some time and asking 800. I can't imagine her getting that rate. I saw her years ago and was not impressed. I didn't pay close to that yet never repeated.[/QUOTE]Three kids. Yikes.

[QUOTE=Ginzo666;6738403]Stop it. Get some help.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.pornhub.com/model/lilrileyred/videos[/URL]

Not for me.

[QUOTE=KyMike53;6737677][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ee030cef-689e-4c6c-a3a4-3264a7e4834f[/URL]

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/tiffanybluee[/URL]

Tiffany has been on Tryst for quite some time and asking 800. I can't imagine her getting that rate. I saw her years ago and was not impressed. I didn't pay close to that yet never repeated.[/QUOTE]She needs 6 months on Semaglutide, then some lose skin surgery and then change her rates to 300.

Curious if anyone has experience. Recently saw her profile and piqued my interest [URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/1fe52aa432440ae2[/URL].

[QUOTE=RegulatorD;6738788]She needs 6 months on Semaglutide, then some lose skin surgery and then change her rates to 300.[/QUOTE]When you're younger sometimes the skin just adjusts without any problems. But semaglutide is a drug you have to stay on. If you go off, the weight comes back.

Has anyone been able to make progress on an actual meetup? If so please share.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2b081411-7972-413a-ad02-dd460aa300ea[/URL]

I am connected, and confirm she is real, but lately no responses.

Any info on her. Has anyone had any luck? PM is fine, so let me know, thanks.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8cfb53f2-88b6-4464-9d63-038e822d343d[/URL]

Any have experience with this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ce9fae0d-15e8-4b16-9463-0e1e587d3525[/URL]

[QUOTE=Ccurtis;6741258]Any have experience with this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ce9fae0d-15e8-4b16-9463-0e1e587d3525[/URL][/QUOTE]Never mind. Just another scammer trying to get money sent ahead of time.

Looks like she has been in the game for some time so assume someone has partaken? Feel free to PM me with any info. Thanks.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/34008b13-274c-41e0-8567-eca52986d66f[/URL]

[QUOTE=ToddCincy;6738213]I filter out women that old so she typically hadn't come up in my past searches.

For you guys with sticker shock: she's okay for what she is: a middle-age woman with more miles on the odometer than a 1998 Honda Accord. (Did you see the p-hub videos of her with the old fat guys?)

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e50e5153-c338-4585-a4c7-e805925ca4f7[/URL]

I realize that some of you actively prefer them older and (very) well-used. I won't open that debate again.

But the older, rougher women at least used to be cheaper. You wouldn't pay 60 K for a 1998 Honda Accord, even if you're willing to drive one. Don't pay 600 for a woman who would have gone for 200 (if that) just a few years ago.

Gentlemen: as long as you continue to pay outrageous prices, the prices will get more outrageous with each passing quarter. This is true regardless of your tastes.

Take Nancy Reagan's old advice and "just say no".

LilRileyRed at 600 should be an easy one to say no to.[/QUOTE]She now wants 800 to a 1,000 for a date. She is absolutely delusional.

[QUOTE=RockaBillyRiot;6745231]She now wants 800 to a 1,000 for a date. She is absolutely delusional.[/QUOTE]Who among you actually giving these birds this kind of money? Especially to butter faces.

[QUOTE=RockaBillyRiot;6745272]Who among you actually giving these birds this kind of money? Especially to butter faces.[/QUOTE]Not me. The most I've gone is 500, but that's for women half her age.

[QUOTE=Ginzo666;6745364]Not me. The most I've gone is 500, but that's for women half her age.[/QUOTE]If we would all stand our ground you could get better prices no one should be giving 500 ppm unless it's an overnight stay etc. Too many ladies have severe cases of gps now days and it's cause some guy give them those big donations or pay for mng etc. Believe me when I say most that want 500 you can usually get for half or less promise you guys don't need to pay that money and shouldn't stick together and will be better for the entire community.

[QUOTE=Kyfordboy85;6745578]If we would all stand our ground you could get better prices no one should be giving 500 ppm unless it's an overnight stay etc. Too many ladies have severe cases of gps now days and it's cause some guy give them those big donations or pay for mng etc. Believe me when I say most that want 500 you can usually get for half or less promise you guys don't need to pay that money and shouldn't stick together and will be better for the entire community.[/QUOTE]I paid 500 one time for a total smoke show but it wasn't worth it. I usually hold the line at 2-2. 5.

[QUOTE=Kyfordboy85;6745578]If we would all stand our ground you could get better prices no one should be giving 500 ppm unless it's an overnight stay etc. Too many ladies have severe cases of gps now days and it's cause some guy give them those big donations or pay for mng etc. Believe me when I say most that want 500 you can usually get for half or less promise you guys don't need to pay that money and shouldn't stick together and will be better for the entire community.[/QUOTE]Advising men on this forum to stand ground and prices will go down won't work. My guess would be that it's less than 5% of men active on seeking. Also it's not like SBs are in contact with each other or reading newspaper articles about current pricing. I've found that looking good, talking to girls like they're humans- prioritizing that they need to feel safe and comfortable while sticking to ppm ceilings will often get them to work with me. Best of luck, stay smart.

Never mind on this one wants $400 to meet for dinner. LOL. These women can't be serious.

[QUOTE=SixtyNineX10;6744951]Looks like she has been in the game for some time so assume someone has partaken? Feel free to PM me with any info. Thanks.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/34008b13-274c-41e0-8567-eca52986d66f[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BaddenBoy2020;6728933]I think if you search Catalinawinemixer you will find some info in this thread on her. We texted, but wasn't impressed with the info given on here. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Your mailbox is full! I can't forward digits you requested.

[QUOTE=OneGrinder;6746774]Your mailbox is full! I can't forward digits you requested.[/QUOTE]My bad OG, should be good now.

[QUOTE=SixtyNineX10;6746417]Never mind on this one wants $400 to meet for dinner. LOL. These women can't be serious.[/QUOTE]Not to mention probably another $200-$300 spent on dinner and drinks, depending where she wants to go. And I'll bet it's not Applebee's.

Definitely not Applebee's, but I don't take it personally. Just delete them and move on. It's a numbers game and if you have some patience and can deal with the BS, you can occasionally still find a few decent ones.

Just had another young one who wanted money to hang out?? WTF. Like that's what all of us on this site want, to pay a woman to hang out and talk to us. Are you kidding?

[QUOTE=Zeotch2;6747485]Not to mention probably another $200-$300 spent on dinner and drinks, depending where she wants to go. And I'll bet it's not Applebee's.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SixtyNineX10;6747531]Definitely not Applebee's, but I don't take it personally. Just delete them and move on. It's a numbers game and if you have some patience and can deal with the BS, you can occasionally still find a few decent ones.

Just had another young one who wanted money to hang out?? WTF. Like that's what all of us on this site want, to pay a woman to hang out and talk to us. Are you kidding?[/QUOTE]Heads up.

Sometimes 30 something and younger use "hang out" or "hanging out" as a euphemism for "hanging out together and having sex. ".

It doesn't always mean what it meant to us growing up.

If a young woman asks if you want to come over and hang out, she might mean would you like to come over and fuck. Just sayin'.

[QUOTE=TroublePlay;6748671]Heads up.

Sometimes 30 something and younger use "hang out" or "hanging out" as a euphemism for "hanging out together and having sex. ".

It doesn't always mean what it meant to us growing up.

If a young woman asks if you want to come over and hang out, she might mean would you like to come over and fuck. Just sayin'.[/QUOTE]"Nailing", "Blinking", "Bumping uglies", "Netflix and chill", " "Stuffing the turkey". Oh the euphemisms of youth.

I am also facing similar experiences with the 18-24 aged college students on SA. I am usually getting an asking price of 500 ppm / weekly allowance. I am connected to many on socials and confirmed there are like 3-4 friend groups which are on the site. First several meetings in public before anything private. I am assuming some are getting guys to pay this and cross sharing to their friends which is driving these expectations. I have attempted a few dates at a much much lower ppm to try to get some traction. Have only succeeded handful of times in the last couple of months. Most times when I press for a more private arrangement, get ghosted or blocked. Having some more success in tinder lately honestly on setting up possible arrangements. Hoping this expectation bubble will burst soon.

[QUOTE=EndlessBanquet;6748922]I am also facing similar experiences with the 18-24 aged college students on SA. I am usually getting an asking price of 500 ppm / weekly allowance. I am connected to many on socials and confirmed there are like 3-4 friend groups which are on the site. First several meetings in public before anything private. I am assuming some are getting guys to pay this and cross sharing to their friends which is driving these expectations. I have attempted a few dates at a much much lower ppm to try to get some traction. Have only succeeded handful of times in the last couple of months. Most times when I press for a more private arrangement, get ghosted or blocked. Having some more success in tinder lately honestly on setting up possible arrangements. Hoping this expectation bubble will burst soon.[/QUOTE]I don't think you're going to have any luck converting these obvious grifters into actual SBs. They're just looking for suckers.

[QUOTE=EndlessBanquet;6748922]I am also facing similar experiences with the 18-24 aged college students on SA. I am usually getting an asking price of 500 ppm / weekly allowance. I am connected to many on socials and confirmed there are like 3-4 friend groups which are on the site. First several meetings in public before anything private. I am assuming some are getting guys to pay this and cross sharing to their friends which is driving these expectations. I have attempted a few dates at a much much lower ppm to try to get some traction. Have only succeeded handful of times in the last couple of months. Most times when I press for a more private arrangement, get ghosted or blocked. Having some more success in tinder lately honestly on setting up possible arrangements. Hoping this expectation bubble will burst soon.[/QUOTE]There are a few well-known groups that are thirst traps and rinsers on the sites. One of the more notorious are the "Gala" girls. They hang out together at places like the Gala nightclub. They are pure rinsers and will never put out. There is another loose group of women who dance at places like Cheeks in Dayton. Dancers are cynical bag-chasers who generally dislike men are either rinsers or GPS. These girls tend to give themselves away with the pictures they post, There may be a few other clusters but these are the most obvious. Just block them and move on.

BAM

[QUOTE=EndlessBanquet;6748922]I am also facing similar experiences with the 18-24 aged college students on SA. I am usually getting an asking price of 500 ppm / weekly allowance. I am connected to many on socials and confirmed there are like 3-4 friend groups which are on the site. First several meetings in public before anything private.[/QUOTE]Feel free to out these girls by posting links to their profiles (not just their names as they can change).

[QUOTE=BamBam;6749204]There are a few well-known groups that are thirst traps and rinsers on the sites. One of the more notorious are the "Gala" girls. They hang out together at places like the Gala nightclub. They are pure rinsers and will never put out. There is another loose group of women who dance at places like Cheeks in Dayton. Dancers are cynical bag-chasers who generally dislike men are either rinsers or GPS. These girls tend to give themselves away with the pictures they post, There may be a few other clusters but these are the most obvious. Just block them and move on.

BAM[/QUOTE]You articulated what I do when I sift through profile pictures and didn't even know I was doing it. The girls that have palm trees, beaches, or lush vacation backgrounds is a red flag to me. They are going to require a high initial investment with little chance of paying it off. Some are HOT, others it's an easy pass. But if you look at enough profiles it becomes easy to identify the unrealistic expectations, fakes, scammers, and "bag chasing" (totally stealing this term, Bam).

[QUOTE=BaddenBoy2020;6749255]You articulated what I do when I sift through profile pictures and didn't even know I was doing it. The girls that have palm trees, beaches, or lush vacation backgrounds is a red flag to me. They are going to require a high initial investment with little chance of paying it off. Some are HOT, others it's an easy pass. But if you look at enough profiles it becomes easy to identify the unrealistic expectations, fakes, scammers, and "bag chasing" (totally stealing this term, Bam).[/QUOTE]Set the height to 5'0 , there can't be that many real 4'11" females on that site.

[QUOTE=BamBam;6749204]There are a few well-known groups that are thirst traps and rinsers on the sites. One of the more notorious are the "Gala" girls. They hang out together at places like the Gala nightclub. They are pure rinsers and will never put out. There is another loose group of women who dance at places like Cheeks in Dayton. Dancers are cynical bag-chasers who generally dislike men are either rinsers or GPS. These girls tend to give themselves away with the pictures they post, There may be a few other clusters but these are the most obvious. Just block them and move on.

BAM[/QUOTE]Galla has been closed for about a year now. Have they migrated to a new spot? The former Gala location I noticed is now "Nation"/ MGM Betting. I was down at The Banks for the last Bengals game of the season, and it's sad to see everyone bundled up in winter clothes; not much eye candy to be had.

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;6749248]Feel free to out these girls by posting links to their profiles (not just their names as they can change).[/QUOTE]There are more. But here are some recents:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2b081411-7972-413a-ad02-dd460aa300ea[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/74a450e5-3ecc-4e42-9097-baaaf67f187e[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d489cb85-82b2-49b8-acd4-0c3149a43bdb[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/704a3ab7-85ca-426a-a358-968906877d2b[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/33bda93b-3ffe-407a-a904-5080091567e3[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/34abdac8-bbfd-40f4-ac72-56e679854f2e[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b34be1dd-0dff-493b-b32d-f5716520136c[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8ff8ed52-0b47-4758-9343-b5b94e844ecb[/URL]

So I'm curious. What age group would you consider to be a sugar baby, and at what point is that just dating? For me, if I ever decided to delve into the sugar bowl, the lady would have to be in their early to mid 20's. Late 20's to early 30's would be like hooking up with a younger friend. Mid 30's on up is just like regular dating; someone I wouldn't feel the slightest bit awkward introducing to my friends and family as someone I am seeing.

That's just me. Everyone's situation is different. What's your window?

[QUOTE=DNut;6751175]So I'm curious. What age group would you consider to be a sugar baby, and at what point is that just dating? For me, if I ever decided to delve into the sugar bowl, the lady would have to be in their early to mid 20's. Late 20's to early 30's would be like hooking up with a younger friend. Mid 30's on up is just like regular dating; someone I wouldn't feel the slightest bit awkward introducing to my friends and family as someone I am seeing.

That's just me. Everyone's situation is different. What's your window?[/QUOTE]Before Covid and the rate inflation, I used to have a lot of success with coeds in the 21-24 age range. Lately, the coeds seemed to have dried up. Could be me, could be the effect of O-F or or it could be natural evolution. In any case, I now search 18-35 while being serious about working those between 20-30 and having the most success in the 24-28 range. I deviate from time-to-time if the woman looks interesting but those often end up as one-off. My allowance offer is in the 200-400/ week range but I will deviate up to 500 for someone special.

BAM.

Good Question. Slim, Athletic, maybe Average in size. Age range 18 to 32. After this age the women tend to have family obligations. Maybe older if cute and fit. Personality is a plus. Social drinking okay. No Drugs beyond Pot or MILFS, Drama, GPS, Findom, etc.

[QUOTE=DNut;6751175]So I'm curious. What age group would you consider to be a sugar baby, and at what point is that just dating? For me, if I ever decided to delve into the sugar bowl, the lady would have to be in their early to mid 20's. Late 20's to early 30's would be like hooking up with a younger friend. Mid 30's on up is just like regular dating; someone I wouldn't feel the slightest bit awkward introducing to my friends and family as someone I am seeing. That's just me. Everyone's situation is different. What's your window?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BamBam;6751623]Before Covid and the rate inflation, I used to have a lot of success with coeds in the 21-24 age range. Lately, the coeds seemed to have dried up. Could be me, could be the effect of O-F or or it could be natural evolution. In any case, I now search 18-35 while being serious about working those between 20-30 and having the most success in the 24-28 range. I deviate from time-to-time if the woman looks interesting but those often end up as one-off. My allowance offer is in the 200-400/ week range but I will deviate up to 500 for someone special.

BAM.[/QUOTE]I deleted my paid SA account a few months back for several reasons. I only have a burner account now. The "talent" in our area still seems exceptionally weak. So many fatties, GPS, delusional grannies, etc. I think Todd is probably right: We're going to need a recession to shake things up and refresh the talent pool. These mid girls that want $500 ppm and can't host can lick my not wiped rectum. I'm not feeding that rat.

As to what defines a proper SB to me, I think 20-25 is the sweet spot for me. I'm still in my mid-40's. If I were older, that range may shift up a bit. For whatever reason, the women in their 30's on SA seem to be nearly universally batshit crazy.

[QUOTE=BamBam;6751623] Lately, the coeds seemed to have dried up. Could be me, could be the effect of O-F or or it could be natural evolution.BAM.[/QUOTE]Oh, it's definitely the effect of O-F. Those people who are looking for "online only" arrangements. Well, that's O-F. O-F can provide them income, without ever having to meet. They can setup their accounts to NOT come up in their local areas so the odds of anyone they know seeing them is considerably decreased. 100 guys paying $20/ month is $2000/ mo without ever having to go out to meet someone for dinner. Add the custom special requests, as a sudar daddy is apt to do, and it's a tidy sum without having to suck a single cock. They don't even have to have that awkward conversation of why they can't meet yet; no BS of "until trust is established and I am comfortable".

O-F is defintely the online only sugar bowl for mass consumerasim.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/612ab802-97dc-46fc-8c18-8ac2e5b47843[/URL]

Any intel on this one? Seems I saw her on the site before, but was under a different profile. Feel free to dm me.

[QUOTE=SixtyNineX10;6753158][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/612ab802-97dc-46fc-8c18-8ac2e5b47843[/URL]

Any intel on this one? Seems I saw her on the site before, but was under a different profile. Feel free to dm me.[/QUOTE]Those pictures are of "Veronica. " If that really is the same girl and not someone using her pictures, then she really does look good IRL. But, she's not recommended. Kind of a dud when you meet her, and she's very annoying and aggressive on text.

Any feedback on these would be great. Feel free to PM.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8e07b790-fcf3-4df9-8474-f8b63b18f5a4[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/73572612-e9fc-4669-8d05-78f2f9aaa64d[/URL]

Thanks.

[QUOTE=SixtyNineX10;6755250]Any feedback on these would be great. Feel free to PM.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8e07b790-fcf3-4df9-8474-f8b63b18f5a4[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/73572612-e9fc-4669-8d05-78f2f9aaa64d[/URL]

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Zoey escorts. You can find her ad on Tryst.