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[QUOTE=DougF;4852466]Seems like a reasonable possibility. The phone carriers don't know who's using the phone number, they know who it is registered to. You should've just checked if that person had a daughter her age, easy enough to find out in this day and age.[/QUOTE]I'd never reveal that I've searched and I'd'd a phone number until I'm ready to block / delete. It can ruin a potential arrangement, just like that. Not a good move until you've given up.
[QUOTE=Spike77;4852060]Chatted with this one. We finally went to text. I have this caller I'd service on my cell phone which is being temporarily offered for free. I noticed the name on the caller I'd was a man. When I asked her about it she freaked out. She said her father pays her cell phone bill. Called me a creep and blocked me LOL. I have been weeding out a lot of men posing as women on this site recently but I am curious whether this is one is true or not. Anyone have a family plan for their cell phones? Does the caller I'd show up as the person paying the bill for all the phones? Also, what access would the person paying the bill have on all the phones? Can they read text messages? See who calls? Curious how that all works.[/QUOTE]
What she said is true. Depending on the carrier, caller I'd for all cell phones on a family plan may show as the name of the plan owner. No, the plan owner cannot read text messages for other plan members. In fact, with all the carriers I know, listings of numbers called and numbers texted were dropped from bills years ago. I suppose the plan owner could request a billing detail, but even then, it would not include the CONTENT of text messages.
Don't bring it up. Just try to get her real first name and then do your recon. Most of these girls have Daddy paying their bill (or originally had). So it will come up as his name. I also use a phone search site, it's about 5 bucks a month and I get over 70% hits on getting the name. It was easy when you could just type a number in FB or search on IG by contacts in your phone. That's gone because of privacy issues. Snapchat also works sometime because some girls register with their real names.
[QUOTE=HounDog3;4853049]What she said is true. Depending on the carrier, caller I'd for all cell phones on a family plan may show as the name of the plan owner. No, the plan owner cannot read text messages for other plan members. In fact, with all the carriers I know, listings of numbers called and numbers texted were dropped from bills years ago. I suppose the plan owner could request a billing detail, but even then, it would not include the CONTENT of text messages.[/QUOTE]
So I either came across a really elaborate scam, or an actual Russian escort agency masquerading as a foreign bride service. I messaged a girl on SA (profile below) and she messaged me back saying she was a "matchmaker" for Russian girls with green cards looking for either a husband or money. She had an entire booklet of Russian girls across MA, complete with names, ages, heights, weights, etc. She told me to pick out a girl, and she'd get in contact with her for us to meet. Now, by itself I wouldn't mind finding a girl through this type of service, cause Russian girls are hot. But it's the fact that this person (whoever it was) wanted me to pay them $300 with BTC to connect with these girls. Maybe if the payment wasn't upfront, but was backed into the amount I paid the Russian girl I met, I'd be fine with it. But I was a bit skeeved out.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6449212b-34df-4a5f-92df-11f5b35f52c4[/URL]
[QUOTE=CuriosWankah;4852324][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4348c445-c0aa-4506-9288-68185c030635[/URL]
Has anyone talked or met up with her before? Any info would be great.[/QUOTE]I talked with this girl. First of all, the literal definition of GPS. She thinks she's literally gods gift to earth and goes on and on about how she's amazing at this or great at that. She said she plays the piano and plays in the Boston Symphony Orchestra, but a friend of mine is actually in the BSO and he said she's not one of them. After that, I tried to steer the conversation away from her and to a potential arrangement and she dropped the bombshell on me that she expected $3 k / month as an allowance. At that point I realized I had wasted 2 hours of my life pretending to be interested in this liar and narcissist, 2 hours that I wouldn't get back.
[QUOTE=RedStar819;4855229]So I either came across a really elaborate scam, or an actual Russian escort agency masquerading as a foreign bride service. I messaged a girl on SA (profile below) and she messaged me back saying she was a "matchmaker" for Russian girls with green cards looking for either a husband or money. She had an entire booklet of Russian girls across MA, complete with names, ages, heights, weights, etc. She told me to pick out a girl, and she'd get in contact with her for us to meet. Now, by itself I wouldn't mind finding a girl through this type of service, cause Russian girls are hot. But it's the fact that this person (whoever it was) wanted me to pay them $300 with BTC to connect with these girls. Maybe if the payment wasn't upfront, but was backed into the amount I paid the Russian girl I met, I'd be fine with it. But I was a bit skeeved out.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6449212b-34df-4a5f-92df-11f5b35f52c4[/URL][/QUOTE]I never try to see Russian girls from SA. In my past experiences they are always running some sort of scam, or trying to play me, or just act entitled / needy. Some really are hot, but to me it's not worth it.
[QUOTE=RedStar819;4855229]So I either came across a really elaborate scam, or an actual Russian escort agency masquerading as a foreign bride service. I messaged a girl on SA (profile below) and she messaged me back saying she was a "matchmaker" for Russian girls with green cards looking for either a husband or money. She had an entire booklet of Russian girls across MA, complete with names, ages, heights, weights, etc. She told me to pick out a girl, and she'd get in contact with her for us to meet. Now, by itself I wouldn't mind finding a girl through this type of service, cause Russian girls are hot. But it's the fact that this person (whoever it was) wanted me to pay them $300 with BTC to connect with these girls. Maybe if the payment wasn't upfront, but was backed into the amount I paid the Russian girl I met, I'd be fine with it. But I was a bit skeeved out.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6449212b-34df-4a5f-92df-11f5b35f52c4[/URL][/QUOTE]Never heard of anyone paying up front getting anything.
A few more to add to the upfront payment list.
We went to text, she sent me a bunch of pictures and then wanted me cashapp To hold my appointment.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ed55e6e2-af03-4559-8a92-80ddec6cdfc4[/URL]
She wanted me to cashapp to see her and her friend.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/68ba940c-485f-4d31-8537-3e82acb9225b[/URL]
This one blocked me when I wouldn't cashapp.
MilliwWillow.
[QUOTE=Sounds;4855975]Never heard of anyone paying up front getting anything.[/QUOTE]Yeah that's what I figured, but I just thought I should bring it to the attention of everyone here.
[QUOTE=RedStar819;4855267]I talked with this girl. First of all, the literal definition of GPS. She thinks she's literally gods gift to earth and goes on and on about how she's amazing at this or great at that. She said she plays the piano and plays in the Boston Symphony Orchestra, but a friend of mine is actually in the BSO and he said she's not one of them. After that, I tried to steer the conversation away from her and to a potential arrangement and she dropped the bombshell on me that she expected $3 k / month as an allowance. At that point I realized I had wasted 2 hours of my life pretending to be interested in this liar and narcissist, 2 hours that I wouldn't get back.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear about your failure with this girl I actually met up with her Sun, and we arranged to meet every week for the next month for 1 K. She's a great fuck very open minded when it come to trying things in bed. I'm under 35 which I think is what tipped the scales into my favor with her since she actually reached out to me first, she told me she asks for that high allowance because 1) she can't get over fucking / being affectionate with an older guy unless the money is worth it 2) she tends to travel abroad a lot and needs that money to save up. When she was telling me this she was trying to twist it into a manner of oh you got the best deal ever me and my circle of friends (whom are all on the site apparently) don't accept anything less than 1 k per meeting or close to that. *eyeroll* If the girl either wants the money or wants to fuck you badly enough they'll adjust to what you offer, so my guess is she wasn't having too much luck at that asking price. This is also awhile after she had told me that she's only had three dates on SA, first one the guy apparently got upset that she didn't want to fuck him after meeting, the second apparently travels a lot and is taking her with him somewhere, and I'm the third. Sorry but I find it hard to believe she's been on the site for 6 months and has only had 3 meetings LOL. She also comes from money, the way she talks about her life and going to private schools and living abroad during HS and college years, the lifestyle she is accustom too etc. It sounds like she definitely has some GPS or at least thinks her value is higher based off how she's lived life so far.
She did reveal that she has a male friend who scams guys on the site by pretending to be women. The women are real they send him legitimate photos and sometimes verify their profiles then the guy tries to convince dumb older guys who are thinking too much with their dick to send him $100, he takes a 30% cut and hands the rest back to the girls. How much truth there is in this idk but it is enough of a flag to report that back, so everyone knows to meetup with these girls before handing money and maybe start to do cash only. My guess is he's the one running most of these online only scams and will talk to the men for a bit before convincing them to send money. She did show me videos of her playing piano in the BSO she's not apart of the actual orchestra but she has played in the symphony building idk if that's what she meant when she told you or if she was actually trying to inflate her value.
Overall me and her have hit it off fairly well good chemistry & equal attraction to each other. She is very eager to please and wants to explore / try new things sexually gives great enthusiastic BBBJ, great GFE / PSE, very fit so her body is tight and well maintained, honestly only bad is that her boobs are slightly saggy for a 23 yo but she's vegetarian so she doesn't ingest enough fat to keep them perky. Additionally I've taken everything's she's told me about her life and time on SA with a grain of salt, there is no way that her and a group of her friends all use SA & ask for 1 k ppm and get away with that idc how hot her friends are unless you're annual income is close to 1 M nobody is going to toss 1 k at some random girl multiple times a month. If you can get with her or even strike up a conversation, give her something she hasn't experienced before that's honestly what convinced her to do this arrangement with me.
[QUOTE=MeloYello;4855987]A few more to add to the upfront payment list.
We went to text, she sent me a bunch of pictures and then wanted me cashapp To hold my appointment.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ed55e6e2-af03-4559-8a92-80ddec6cdfc4[/URL]
She wanted me to cashapp to see her and her friend.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/68ba940c-485f-4d31-8537-3e82acb9225b[/URL]
This one blocked me when I wouldn't cashapp.
MilliwWillow.[/QUOTE]Seems like a lot of guys on here get in touch with single photo profiles with barely any info listed, maybe you guys are just reaching out to anyone but if they don't have more than 3 pics, profile age under 1 month, aren't verified in some manner college, social media, or pic then 9/10 times their a scam and want you to send them money. I've had convos with 65 real girls on SA verified 80% of them on Snapchat the rest via video chat all in the past month. I'm under 35 so that's to my advantage because they reach out to me, but anyone with charm and a home can land a girl from this site. I guess my point is how are you guys not recognizing when you look at the profile that it's a scam? I've only talked with 8 girls who've turned out to be either a fake profile or a real girl who's trying to scam and those girls will typically block you after you move to chat off of SA. You can't view them but when they block you their name stays visible under messages, if their profile is taken down it just says sugar baby.
List of the real SB's that block after chatting elsewhere (if you see them just ignore or block).
Mollholla, Nicolexxx1, Winelover699, Amandapanda372, Snowbunny22.
Just to help out I'll list some of the girls who were open to PPM. Keep in mind these girls probably have 100's of dudes reaching out to them so them being open to PPM is probably based off of how into you they are, so charm them and you're good.
Skily [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c287e2ce-7729-467e-8103-f22f5c140909[/URL] - a little flaky but agreed to ppm before we established a meeting.
Hearteyes20 [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/962325df-64e5-4fd1-8324-1b41b2c355c3[/URL] - profile screams ppm and was very eager to meet up with me.
ChampagneAri [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/72fd1f43-e091-48c5-ac3f-197eaf4a0832[/URL] - Tried using covid to her advantage but had discussed that she had done ppm arrangements before covid.
Socialite472 [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8777ad0a-2755-4eac-a65c-3354da45932a[/URL] - Profile had me confused as it listed NSA and FWB but also Platonic under seeking, she was open to ppm but we just didn't click so I never followed thru.
Fun Boston Girl [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7a2c1595-1930-4e24-870e-d07ebbd2c57f[/URL] - she's a pro looking for 700 but was pretty open to doing anything except being tickled, body worshipped, and obv gross things like scat or watersports.
_Lets_have_fun [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/be37fc43-7506-4842-b53a-65960e96474f[/URL] - travels a lot between RI and NH asked for 300 but open to negotiating.
Luckycharm333 [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5ba4d327-ecf6-4649-9a1b-a4a294732339[/URL] - also pro never got to price she wasn't up for anything kink related.
Taylor1 [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d4c01d6a-ae09-4cc8-bf64-5f12d1877923[/URL] - A little nervous while chatting, apparently some guys had pressured her to go back home with them after meeting, so take it slow and explain she can leave after first meeting and she will feel a lot more comfortable, might ask or expect a gift at the first meeting (I'd suggest just getting like a box of chocolates or something simple) to show her you intend to keep your end of the deal.
Shaylarocks [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/35c5256a-7da1-4e0f-bffb-c643189add44[/URL] - Travels between RI and Boston but is busy with work a lot.
Jay baby998 [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6d0c4a1b-a578-4510-88ab-ad83ec574bc2[/URL] - Open to many arrangements was very eager to hangout.
Greekkoreanamerican [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4348c445-c0aa-4506-9288-68185c030635[/URL] - Currently have an arrangement with.
Yogaprincessscribe [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6653b475-64e8-41b5-bed8-1977873a7cfc[/URL] - Already reviewed her.
Scarlettbby149 [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/542b28d1-2655-4893-b795-d4c5e0306fbf[/URL] - Asked for $$ 5 ppm but wouldn't really budge when I offered $$. 5 so I didn't pursue.
[QUOTE=MeloYello;4855987]A few more to add to the upfront payment list.
We went to text, she sent me a bunch of pictures and then wanted me cashapp To hold my appointment.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ed55e6e2-af03-4559-8a92-80ddec6cdfc4[/URL]
She wanted me to cashapp to see her and her friend.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/68ba940c-485f-4d31-8537-3e82acb9225b[/URL]
This one blocked me when I wouldn't cashapp.
MilliwWillow.[/QUOTE]The photos in both those profiles just scream a fake profile to me.
[QUOTE=CuriosWankah;4856486]Sorry to hear about your failure with this girl I actually met up with her Sun, and we arranged to meet every week for the next month for 1 K. She's a great fuck very open minded when it come to trying things in bed. I'm under 35 which I think is what tipped the scales into my favor with her since she actually reached out to me first, she told me she asks for that high allowance because 1) she can't get over fucking / being affectionate with an older guy unless the money is worth it 2) she tends to travel abroad a lot and needs that money to save up. When she was telling me this she was trying to twist it into a manner of oh you got the best deal ever me and my circle of friends (whom are all on the site apparently) don't accept anything less than 1 k per meeting or close to that. *eyeroll* If the girl either wants the money or wants to fuck you badly enough they'll adjust to what you offer, so my guess is she wasn't having too much luck at that asking price. This is also awhile after she had told me that she's only had three dates on SA, first one the guy apparently got upset that she didn't want to fuck him after meeting, the second apparently travels a lot and is taking her with him somewhere, and I'm the third. Sorry but I find it hard to believe she's been on the site for 6 months and has only had 3 meetings LOL. She also comes from money, the way she talks about her life and going to private schools and living abroad during HS and college years, the lifestyle she is accustom too etc. It sounds like she definitely has some GPS or at least thinks her value is higher based off how she's lived life so far[/QUOTE]You mean to tell me you pay $1 k for pussy?
[QUOTE=Style20;4857103]You mean to tell me you pay $1 k for pussy?[/QUOTE]That's for 4-5 meetings so I'm not paying anything more than 200-250 when you value it out.
[QUOTE=Style20;4857103]You mean to tell me you pay $1 k for pussy?[/QUOTE]1 k for the month with 4 meets is $250 per.