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Thoughts
I freely admit that I have not been to Washington Park in quite awhile, so I cannot question or judge anything that anyone here has said. But I have a few thoughts. When I first started going to these clubs a number of years ago, the girls were VERY friendly. Their hands were all over you as soon as they sat next to you. It was hard not to want sex right there in the bar much less turn down a chance to go to the back. I never really enjoyed the back. Taking three minutes to pork a girl from behind while everyone else could stare through partially open curtains was just not my thing. Over time, girls started getting less friendly and forward. They did not even want to sit close to you until there was an offer of some type of cash. As far as looks, it changed on a daily basis and I was never as picky as some guys. I was more concerned about odor than looks; it was difficult to spend more than a few minutes near more than a few girls without gagging. So what do I believe changed, when I hear guys complaining? Read the reports. Guys are still paying, whether or not the girls are friendly, whether or not they are good-looking, whether or not they stink. Guys are still buying drinks which makes the bar happy whether or not the girls are getting any. If you walked into a restaurant and the staff was rude and the food crummy, would you keep going? BTW, I still indulge in my hobby where I reside. I rarely meet a girl not on some type of public assistance and often from more than one source. You are supporting these girls whether you are getting sex or not. So many don't appear as often they used to and are a lot more demanding when they do. It will be up to mongers to resist the demands of little heads and be more demanding themselves before things improve. When a girl in a bar squirms on my lap for sixty seconds for a fee and then wants $150 or more to go in the back for 3 minutes of usually crummy sex, I have learned to just say no.
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[QUOTE=Ump1969;2000509]I freely admit that I have not been to Washington Park in quite awhile, so I cannot question or judge anything that anyone here has said. But I have a few thoughts. When I first started going to these clubs a number of years ago, the girls were VERY friendly. Their hands were all over you as soon as they sat next to you. It was hard not to want sex right there in the bar much less turn down a chance to go to the back. I never really enjoyed the back. Taking three minutes to pork a girl from behind while everyone else could stare through partially open curtains was just not my thing. Over time, girls started getting less friendly and forward. They did not even want to sit close to you until there was an offer of some type of cash. As far as looks, it changed on a daily basis and I was never as picky as some guys. I was more concerned about odor than looks; it was difficult to spend more than a few minutes near more than a few girls without gagging. So what do I believe changed, when I hear guys complaining? Read the reports. Guys are still paying, whether or not the girls are friendly, whether or not they are good-looking, whether or not they stink. Guys are still buying drinks which makes the bar happy whether or not the girls are getting any. If you walked into a restaurant and the staff was rude and the food crummy, would you keep going? BTW, I still indulge in my hobby where I reside. I rarely meet a girl not on some type of public assistance and often from more than one source. You are supporting these girls whether you are getting sex or not. So many don't appear as often they used to and are a lot more demanding when they do. It will be up to mongers to resist the demands of little heads and be more demanding themselves before things improve. When a girl in a bar squirms on my lap for sixty seconds for a fee and then wants $150 or more to go in the back for 3 minutes of usually crummy sex, I have learned to just say no.[/QUOTE]For the most part, I agree.
But, sometimes you need something more than just the hand.
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PTs Brooklyn Cherry
I visit PT's Brooklyn on occasion. Been pretty slim picking recently but met a new girl who was fun. Her name is Cherry and she is an African American girl who I would estimate is in her upper twentys. Nice girl and I ended up doing a private dance with her. She asked what I was looking for and I just told her "surprise me". Kind of threw her but bin the middle of the set, she started giving me the best massage I've had in a long time. I think she is missing her calling by working as a dancer. Anyway, nothing sexual other than grabbing my cock through my pants. I suspect more may be on menu if you opt for a private room. Other than her, seemed the the same tired array of girls.
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Wash Park
Went past Cheeks yesterday around 3:00 pm. Only two girls working a brunette and a blonde. Sat down an ordered a beer. The blonde comes over to talk and it turns out to be Unique. I am thinking great I've been wanting to check her out after some of the reports on here. We try to chat at the bar but all she wants to talk about is taking me back to the VIP room. I asked if she would dance for me on the stage. I wanted to check out the goods a little and kind of get worked up some as I am no spring Chicken. So at the stage she is telling me how with it being slow at the bar only three customers we can take our time in the back with plenty of foreplay and how much fun we can have. She needed 20 for the room and 100 for our time. So I give her the 20 and she pays the bar and we head on back. Once inside and the door closed we disrobe and I'm thinking she will lap dance a little to get me warmed up. No she goes straight to a CBJ by sucking the cover on. She gets me hard and switches to cg. I barely enter and she asked if I would do her from behind I agree as I didn't care to sit on the couch anyway (Yuck is all that comes to Mind). So we start to go at it. I am doing good so far and thinking I don't want to cum to quick as Doggie normally does that for me. I was a little disappointed in that she went straight to it with out any warm up like she said she would but then after maybe a couple of minutes of going after it she says she's getting tired and stops all her movement. I kept on going as I thinking maybe it will get a better if she sees that I want to end a little quicker. After a couple of minutes of that she tells me She needs to pee. So ok the fun has stopped for me now. All I want from this point on is to get off and get out of there as does she apparently. I tell her she can finish me by a BJ and she agrees. So back on the couch (Yuck again) she goes after it with out taking the cover off. I asked if she would finish me bare and she said no she didn't know me well enough and I can understand that. But if she would of it would of went a lot faster. I have to give her credit as she stay with it for along time to get me to pop and I was very close when she gave up because her mouth was getting sore. So I finished it my shelf with a couple of tugs. Then she didn't have anything to clean me up with. I paid her the 100 and she asked me for a tip. I told her I didn't have any more money and out the door she went. Will not REPEAT. I guess it was a YMMV kind of thing.
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Cara AKA Carebear
I've heard she's back at Cheeks M-Th.
Also, went by Cheeks to see Misty and got told she's taking a break. Hope she comes back soon. She's real fun. Anyone have intel on why she took a break or how long it might be? Usually one will give you a good idea of the other.
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28Feb at WGs
Took a small spinner BSW in the back at Wise Gs, Treasurer was the name, not so wise of me, she talked a good show, negotiated a fare deal for both of us, I was very disappointed started the upsell immediately after I donated $ . She is small 5 foot, 100 lbs tops a cup, big Glasses. A never do again! Stay away.
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WP Strip Clubs
I normally post on the STL board and did not think or realize there was a WP IL board. So as of late last year after being in St. Louis for 5 years I decided to visit the WP strip clubs. I'll wrap up my multiple visits because I read all the posts back to 2012 and mine will be more of the same, just the names have changed. I've been to PT's in Sauget. Nice looking girls, but I went on a night when all their regulars were there. Let's just say I left with my mind made up to never return. Tried see-Mowes and well it's been said plenty, but its a shit box of club. I think the best part of the whole club is see-Mowes sign blinking outside. I must have went on fat girl Saturday. There were 3 or 4 buff-a-rillas running around showing tits and asking for tips after informing me they had danced. Not to mention one big buffarilla wouldn't understand that I didn't do privates with big girls, but we had fun talking. I would say there were one decent size white chick and one stone cold hot 10 black girl who had just started working there. Former gymnast...and it shows. I'd only go back to have a thrill with her. Never been to Cheeks or Wiseguys. After reading reviews on here, I don't think I'm really missing much, but may be work a stop one day. Stopped in at Blondies, had a beer, and left...never to return unless I want to read a book and buy and expensive drink. Then that leaves Dollie's Playhouse. Depending on your taste in women, it's a little bit of everything available. Older, younger and in between. I have fun there, because it is a mix of people both customers and staff. Yes, girls are hustling for money, but I've sharpened my negotiating skills to the hilt. And oh yea, its a for sure thing for extras there. As far as Hustler's and Hollywood, I will probably go when I really just want to see hot dancers. Oh, I've been to Miss Kitty's too. It's ok, but I think I'll pass on the privates there too. However, it is a good place see some nice girls.
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[QUOTE=Badboy2;2032955]Then that leaves Dollie's Playhouse. [/QUOTE]I've said it before but it's worth repeating-everyone should experience Dollie's at least once. Go in for a drink, relax and observe.
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Dollies
Went to Dollies on a Thursday. Mandy is back, nice looking MILF, previously reviewed on here. Only got a stage grind from her, didn't have the time to even chat with because of the other ladies hovering. I saw Keely, (not good with names), and she was ok. A little bigger and thicker than what I like, but she was fun and nice. Finished off remaining fun with JLo. Terry the bartender is super nice to chat with.
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Visited Dollie's last week. Arrived towards the end of day shift. Normal regular girls there and I was wanting to catch up with someone new to me but keep missing her. Night shift started to arrive and my time was running short, so I decided to try Bunny based on some past comments. Very uninspired session and she walked away without finishing the job. Will never make that mistake again.
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[QUOTE=Missery;2042670]Visited Dollie's last week. Arrived towards the end of day shift. Normal regular girls there and I was wanting to catch up with someone new to me but keep missing her. Night shift started to arrive and my time was running short, so I decided to try Bunny based on some past comments. Very uninspired session and she walked away without finishing the job. Will never make that mistake again.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up Missery. I almost went with her the last time I was there, but changed my mind for a spinner that was hot. As a matter of fact, there were two AA spinners on that night. One was being hogged by one guy and I was lucky enough to get the other one. Don't remember any names.
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Bunny@Dollies
Went for a cruise decided to stop at Dollies 3 cove4.5 for beer there 3 minutes and approached by a deft girl cute enough said 40 for BJ 50 for swallow offered 40 to take care of the boys good to go. Went to the little rooms by pool table good tech in out 25 min total she does a good job lots of tongue like that.
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Dollies - first time
Usually I report on the St Louis forum but Dollies seemed to belong here. Most often I frequent places like Roxy's or PT's, but from various reports decided to give Dollies a go.
I am going to mention something for fellow mongers who have never been to Dollies before but are thinking about it; it's probably something that's already been said 20-50 posts back so I probably just re-iterating what many of you already know.
Dollies is rough. And by rough I don't mean "rough and tumble", I mean wow I'm surprised by the new level of low expectations in club interior decorating. And yes the neighborhood is also a bit rough. However I have worked in some of the WORST neighborhoods in the metropolitan area and Washington Park does not scare me at all. And I am a small frame short white guy. As for reports of police trying to scare people away with speeding tickets, what a joke. The police station / city hall is literally down the street. They are stopping you because they NEED the money. Just look around. At the place. They DON'T want to scare you off LOL! They probably hope you come back and speed some more through the town. The "private" rooms are literally 3 partitions in the corner that are about 4.5 feet high with a match size door, with a bead curtain that is now missing about 50% of it's original strings of beads. Office cubicles are taller. Anyone in the club, or the next cubicle for that matter, could just look in. Not that this happens, just sayin' you had better be comfortable with that. Luckily I am. There seems to be not teasing or bait'and'switch here though. No huge upsells once in the back. No purposly running down the clock (cause there is no clock). WYSIWYG is the motto of Dollies. I believe you easily could spend all night there, take as many ladies as you have the stomach for to the back and still come in under 200 for the whole visit.
Anyway I'm getting off track. Was a sat at 6 pm. 3 dollar cover. Beer 4.50 (I think). One really big blondie on the "stage". I mean big enough that I really had trouble believing that I was actually seeing her on stage in a strip club. Even one as ramshackle as Dollies. I'm not picky but damn! The rest were are fairly decent, about 5-6 girls in there when I came in. One you already know about. 2 of them were drunk. I mean really drunk. 1 of those 2 was absolutely wasted. She randomly got up on stage and kinda just dropped her clothes and stood their. I was actually beginning to worry I might have to put the lifesaving skills to use with her barely being able to stand in those 4 inch heels wasted on an elevated stage. Later she actually walked up to me at the bar (completely naked), well more like stumbled up to me, and asked me for a tip for her stage "stage dance". I gave her a dollar so she'd get the fuck out of my face. I was starting to get bored, hadn't seen Honey or Bunny at all, 2 of the girls I've been told to look for. 1 new girl came in for her shift called Autumn. Very tall made goofy tall by the 4 inch heels she was wearing. Very decent looking though, seemed to have a pretty happy attitude and smiled and talked a lot with the guys. I thought about getting with her, but she went in the back for a few. Maybe next time. Ended up with Cee-Cee (she said her name at other clubs has been sierra, management gave her cee-cee) a very nice looking AA woman who certainly knows exactly why you are in Dollies and is not she at all shy at telling you this. She was stone cold sober which already made her much more attractive that 25% of the other girls in there. Massive baby damage up front, not in flab or loose skin but in a bad vertical see-section scar from sternum to pubic area. Tits a bit deflated too from baby damage. From the back however she is perfect; reverse cowgirl or doggy and you will think you're with a 20 year old model. 50 for CBJ or 60 for CFS, 70 for both. I opted for 60. Unlike every other club around, there is no number of songs, time limit, or for that matter even a stage rotation the dancers have to adhere to. (apparently they just randomly get on stage). Cee-Cee was definitely fun, but ironically there seemed to be a issue that everytime I got close she would coincidentally end up pausing because she was having an orgasm herself. And edging me like that just made me last longer. It was actually kind of funny in a weird way. It did however make her work extra hard, which she really seemed to not mind as long as I didn't. I'm seriously talking like close to 20 minutes and about 3 orgasms for her. No upsell, no telling me I needed to pop soon. I voluntarily tipped her 20 just for taking it like a champ.
If I had more time I would have explored some other talent their more. So Dollies is really a trade-off if you will: Establishment and 50% of the girls are rather harsh on the eyes, however prices are cheap and you get what you expect without games. I'll probably be back.
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Thanks
[QUOTE=Hesdeadjim;2056164]Usually I report on the St Louis forum but Dollies seemed to belong here. Most often I frequent places like Roxy's or PT's, but from various reports decided to give Dollies a go.
I am going to mention something for fellow mongers who have never been to Dollies before but are thinking about it; it's probably something that's already been said 20-50 posts back so I probably just re-iterating what many of you already know.
Dollies is rough. And by rough I don't mean "rough and tumble", I mean wow I'm surprised by the new level of low expectations in club interior decorating. And yes the neighborhood is also a bit rough. However I have worked in some of the WORST neighborhoods in the metropolitan area and Washington Park does not scare me at all. And I am a small frame short white guy. As for reports of police trying to scare people away with speeding tickets, what a joke. The police station / city hall is literally down the street. They are stopping you because they NEED the money. Just look around. At the place. They DON'T want to scare you off LOL! They probably hope you come back and speed some more through the town. The "private" rooms are literally 3 partitions in the corner that are about 4.5 feet high with a match size door, with a bead curtain that is now missing about 50% of it's original strings of beads. Office cubicles are taller. Anyone in the club, or the next cubicle for that matter, could just look in. Not that this happens, just sayin' you had better be comfortable with that. Luckily I am. There seems to be not teasing or bait'and'switch here though. No huge upsells once in the back. No purposly running down the clock (cause there is no clock). WYSIWYG is the motto of Dollies. I believe you easily could spend all night there, take as many ladies as you have the stomach for to the back and still come in under 200 for the whole visit.
Anyway I'm getting off track. Was a sat at 6 pm. 3 dollar cover. Beer 4.50 (I think). One really big blondie on the "stage". I mean big enough that I really had trouble believing that I was actually seeing her on stage in a strip club. Even one as ramshackle as Dollies. I'm not picky but damn! The rest were are fairly decent, about 5-6 girls in there when I came in. One you already know about. 2 of them were drunk. I mean really drunk. 1 of those 2 was absolutely wasted. She randomly got up on stage and kinda just dropped her clothes and stood their. I was actually beginning to worry I might have to put the lifesaving skills to use with her barely being able to stand in those 4 inch heels wasted on an elevated stage. Later she actually walked up to me at the bar (completely naked), well more like stumbled up to me, and asked me for a tip for her stage "stage dance". I gave her a dollar so she'd get the fuck out of my face. I was starting to get bored, hadn't seen Honey or Bunny at all, 2 of the girls I've been told to look for. 1 new girl came in for her shift called Autumn. Very tall made goofy tall by the 4 inch heels she was wearing. Very decent looking though, seemed to have a pretty happy attitude and smiled and talked a lot with the guys. I thought about getting with her, but she went in the back for a few. Maybe next time. Ended up with Cee-Cee (she said her name at other clubs has been sierra, management gave her cee-cee) a very nice looking AA woman who certainly knows exactly why you are in Dollies and is not she at all shy at telling you this. She was stone cold sober which already made her much more attractive that 25% of the other girls in there. Massive baby damage up front, not in flab or loose skin but in a bad vertical see-section scar from sternum to pubic area. Tits a bit deflated too from baby damage. From the back however she is perfect; reverse cowgirl or doggy and you will think you're with a 20 year old model. 50 for CBJ or 60 for CFS, 70 for both. I opted for 60. Unlike every other club around, there is no number of songs, time limit, or for that matter even a stage rotation the dancers have to adhere to. (apparently they just randomly get on stage). Cee-Cee was definitely fun, but ironically there seemed to be a issue that everytime I got close she would coincidentally end up pausing because she was having an orgasm herself. And edging me like that just made me last longer. It was actually kind of funny in a weird way. It did however make her work extra hard, which she really seemed to not mind as long as I didn't. I'm seriously talking like close to 20 minutes and about 3 orgasms for her. No upsell, no telling me I needed to pop soon. I voluntarily tipped her 20 just for taking it like a champ.
If I had more time I would have explored some other talent their more. So Dollies is really a trade-off if you will: Establishment and 50% of the girls are rather harsh on the eyes, however prices are cheap and you get what you expect without games. I'll probably be back.[/QUOTE]Excellent report. Thanks a lot!
O 46.
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I agree
[QUOTE=Odysseus46;2056665]Excellent report. Thanks a lot!
O 46.[/QUOTE]I totally agree! I used to cruise for the SW. But now I just head down to Dollies. Bunny is my regular. She is deaf, but we communicate well. Thanks for the awesome report!