[QUOTE=BastardChorum;6087867]It's important to isolate treating kgirls well and critiquing their service as two wholly separate things. One may have an affect on the other or vice versa but at the end of the day, they are two distinct aspects of mongering.
I very much doubt that the vast majority of mongers treat kgirls poorly or sees them only as sex dolls or less than human beings. If the bookers are doing their job correctly, these types of individuals are usually weeded out during vetting or BL shortly after a session or two with kgirls. Small infractions are rarely heard about and / or disseminated in the community. More often than not, only the extreme cases bubble up to the top and reach the forums (broken ribs, fake currency, theft, nonconsensual filming, etc.). While each incident is tragic, the small amount of similarly severe cases is often taken at face value and mischaracterized as rampant in the scene. Which it is not, this is just selection bias. Taking a step back, given the amount of agencies and kgirls across the LA / OC area and however many hundreds of sessions that occur everyday over however many years these incidents occur, the percentage of this happening to kgirls is miniscule. I'm not discounting how horrible it is, but we all need to take into consideration the likelihood also. For instance, in our lifetime we have close to a 1% chance of dying in a car crash but most of us still choose to commute and drive cars.
As for the later aspect, every monger possesses an idealized concept of what they perceive as good service. This becomes a grading rubric each kgirl will be tested against. How well they mesh and score will determine what kind of reviews will posted after the fact. Given the circumstance and dynamics involved, critiquing a kgirl's performance is integral, if not mandatory, to the whole process. You are paying for a service and not with chump change either. If, for example, I'm shelling out $300 at two restaurants: one has great ambiance, knowledgeable wait staff, and great food while another has wailing kids running amok, servers that clearly hate their job, and food not much better than the Sizzler's around the corner, I sure am going to be complaining to management and posting a review reflective of what I experience on Yelp, Google reviews, Tripadvisor, or similar platforms.
Ultimately, I don't think we mongers as a whole are treating kgirls unfairly. With how donations are pretty similar regardless of where you go (not including upcharges), kgirls demonstrating exceptional characteristics / service and those that fall short should equally be called out to benefit the community and give bookers notice on what we want and like. Moreover, upcharges were a consequence and byproduct of kgirls themselves and the bookers ran with it. The delineation between upcharge and not upcharge girls and all issues arising because of it is their damn own fault. In your words "Eric (and I would add all kgirls) are solely here for the money, not sex". I agree with that statement but I would also add that we mongers are here solely (most of us anyways) for the sex, not the inadequacies originating from said kgirl that affects it. We're all consenting adults here. The ability of certain kgirls to be able to cope with fucking strangers day in and day out, to have the mental fortitude to deliver consistent service to the majority of her clients, and to not drag drama into the session is the linchpin in separating the superstars and the duds. I don't think, even for a second, that evaluating a service I paid for dehumanizes the people involve. We all (should) know and be aware that it boils down to a transaction and a service, bought and paid for. I can be polite, cordial, and courteous while objectively evaluating how well you please me. I have faith that most of us here can too. And it should no way indicate that we are callous or otherwise for doing so. If this still sounds dehumanizing or offensive to you, then we just have to agree to disagree. I can't speak for others but, personally, I pursue the good fucks and don't treat the dud fucks any less than the good ones.[/QUOTE]Very well said. And also TheABC brought very good points as well.
Separating critique of quality of services / value of services / price of services from people as person, is critical here. Most people have no issue doing this in other industries, it's quite natural. If you think your food is undercooked you complain to the chef that this food sucks, you aren't treating him as an object or any other nonsense. Same with a janitor if he / she fails at their job or isn't good at it. Or cmt. Or doctor.
So why is it even brought up in this industry? If a girl is fat, she's fat. If she can't fuck, she can't fuck.
It has nothing to do with dehumanizing the girl. She may be an absolutely wonderful human being, but being a nice girl or guy isn't a profession.
Not to mention, there are shills and org guys who noticed this rhetoric and have been using it to discredit other people's opinion to the point its often a part of their playbook.
