I don't see how you guys can discern anything in these videos. I see nothing but a bottle of water over on the right.
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I don't see how you guys can discern anything in these videos. I see nothing but a bottle of water over on the right.
[QUOTE=SuperUnknown21; 1084327]As I posted last Thursday the 21st, I had already seen Nicole at Sun and had planned to return to see her and another together. Well, I headed out and went to Sun. Few cars outside, and was told it would be a little bit of a wait to get Nicole. So, I start to undress, and get down to just about my jeans when the doorbell rings. I didn't think anything of it, but a little while later it rang again. And then again. Now knocking on the door. Now LOUD knocking and another doorbell. This is when I put my clothes back on in a hurry. Finally, someone answers the door, and I hear 2 men speaking."Hi, we're from the health department." I nearly had a heart attack. I had no idea what to expect, why they were there, what they were going to do, and if they were going to bring cops or what. Well, none of that happened. I stood by the door listening for a few minutes, and decided it was time to bail. Opened my door and walked out towards the exit. Mama stops me and says "Ees ok hunny, dey not going to bother you". I left anyway. Cruised over to Tokyo. Tokyo is always weird, because you pull in and go around the back of the bldg, and mama always comes out the back door to greet you in the lot. She came out and I told her about the inspectors at Sun. She didn't understand me, so she hollers in for some other girl who comes out, and I told her what was up. She said don't worry about it, and told me that is why Sun was closed a couple months ago for a week or two. (girls didn't have proper licensing, and now are subject to more frequent Health Dept visits. Ok fine, so I park and go in to Tokyo. I had to use the bathroom, so I go in, and as she is showing me to the bathroom, the other girl RUNS outside again, and is frantically yelling something at the one who showed me to the bathroom in a HURRY, shoved me in and closed the door. Wouldn't you know. I get done taking a piss, and who do I hear but the SAME TWO guys that were just as Sun. (I forgot to mention, before I left Sun I had already paid the. 4 house fee, and left without getting it back. So, here I am stuck in the bathroom while the inspectors make their rounds. I tried to come out, but one girl was standing in front of the bathroom door while I was in there. I stayed in there for almost 15minutes, again nervous because NOW they were talking to mama and telling her to knock on the doors and make all the girls come out. Apparently they found some issues with who was licensed and who wasn't, and it sounded like some shit was about to go down. Eventually, I was able to come out of the bathroom when it sounded like they weren't near the door anymore, and I got the hell out of there. Now that I have been properly buzzkilled TWICE, I figure what the hell, I'll go back to Sun and see what happened.
Once I got back to Sun, mama lets me back in and assures me if it ever happens again, they do NOT bother the customers. This seems true, because neither time did they seem to have any interest in me or anyone other than the girls and their licenses. So, since I had already paid the house fee, I asked to see who was available since Nicole was busy. She sent in Cindy, who was a suitable alternative. Nice body, personality, service. All around good time. I told mama I wanted to start with Cindy and add NIcole when she got done, but Nicole never came in, and eventually I had to blow my load all over Cindys face and mouth, LOL. She took it willingly, down the hatch, and away I went, happy as usual. Next time I go back, I'm getting Nicole and Cindy together. That should make for a good report. Until then. [/QUOTE]LMAO while reading your post, sounds like something that would happen to me, can't type any more still LMAO.
Thanks for a great report!
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[QUOTE=SuperUnknown21;1149430]Went yesterday to cash in my free visit card. Ruby was busy so I settled for Jun. I say "settled" because the last couple of times I have seen her she is just annoying. She tries to hurry and gets frustrated and it shows, and I do NOT like to be rushed, particularly when $ is involved. Anyway, her performance was ok, and I finished, but Ruby (IMO) is the only one worth seeing at Sun anymore. Tina is nice, Bobbi is ok, Jun is decent, but Ruby is far and away the best. Again, this is MY opinion. [/QUOTE]Dude you must have had Jun right after me. No wonder she seemed distracted. Yes, Ruby was busy. I talked to her a couple of times while I was there in between her getting some tea and a little something to eat. I'm sorry I wore Jun out for you but it has been a long time seeing her and you know when you don't see someone for awhile you have a lot of catching up to do.
I talked to Sammie while I was there and she has seen the video and knows who the person was that in there. He's going to have to deal with a lot more things besides being banned from the spa or Warren in general. I think the word / name is being passed around now. They also figured out where it was videotaped. I think I smell toast.
[QUOTE=Jeff S; 1149393]I disagree 100. These videos will not get buried, ever. We need to act as a group and get them removed as soon as possible.
Please join me in requesting that Jackson remove the videos.
Thanks,
Jeff[/QUOTE]It is a great video, I bet Bobby and this guy recorded it togather. Always thought Bobby was a hotty.
[QUOTE=Vampireweekend; 1149534]Dude you must have had Jun right after me. No wonder she seemed distracted. Yes, Ruby was busy. I talked to her a couple of times while I was there in between her getting some tea and a little something to eat. I'm sorry I wore Jun out for you but it has been a long time seeing her and you know when you don't see someone for awhile you have a lot of catching up to do.
I talked to Sammie while I was there and she has seen the video and knows who the person was that in there. He's going to have to deal with a lot more things besides being banned from the spa or Warren in general. I think the word / name is being passed around now. They also figured out where it was videotaped. I think I smell toast.[/QUOTE]If you are trying to claim status like you get better treatment than I do, think what you want. The only reason I took Jun after my last half-assed visit with her is because I felt bad using a freebie on someone as good as Ruby. I really just wanted a nice long, slow BJ, which I got until she started trying to finish me off. So I decided to beat up the kitty for a while. At that point, it was pretty clear why she wanted me to finish. 20 minutes of my schlong crashing into her cervix probably got a bit annoying. I may have had her right after you, but I never noticed. You must not have done a very good job, or maybe you just weren't big enough to stretch her out at all? I DEFINITELY got past the "used part", surely unfamiliar territory for you. You're probably the other schmuck I saw walking in with a card and a box of chocolates last week. Haha.
[QUOTE=SuperUnknown21; 1149430]Went yesterday to cash in my free visit card. Ruby was busy so I settled for Jun. I say "settled" because the last couple of times I have seen her she is just annoying. She tries to hurry and gets frustrated and it shows, and I do NOT like to be rushed, particularly when $ is involved. Anyway, her performance was ok, and I finished, but Ruby (IMO) is the only one worth seeing at Sun anymore. Tina is nice, Bobbi is ok, Jun is decent, but Ruby is far and away the best. Again, this is MY opinion.
Now, on to the videos.
I saw those links very shortly after the guy posted them. If you look, they take you to another site where over 18, 000 people had viewed them the FIRST DAY they were posted. EIGHTEEN THOUSAND. Removing the links from here won't matter at this point. Everyone who is going to see them has already seen them. That video was DEFINITELY taken at Sun, no doubt. But get this. As I mentioned earlier, I was at Sun yesterday. As I was leaving, I sat in my car for a minute, and a guy pulled up in a shitty old green Toyota and got out of his car holding a laptop computer. He walked straight into Sun, as if he were going to show Sammy the videos or something? That would be pretty funny if she recognized who the guy in the videos is, and booted his ass for it.
As for all the hype and rumors that will now cycle about LE shutting the place down, etc. It is no secret what goes on in every AMP across the country! You think the cops never go there after work? HAHA. You are crazy. If someone wanted to shut down an AMP in Warren, don't you think they would have been successful sometime in the last fifteen or twenty years? They aren't going anywhere. Vids or no vids. Setting up a hidden camera could put that guy in legal trouble if the girl found out and pressed charges, but we both know that isn't going to happen. [/QUOTE]I agree with SuperUnknown21, the only thing I can add is my surprise that my fellow mongers are somewhat "holier than thou". I just looked at the videos again, and there are now over 20, 000 hits and on that site there are thousands of other videos. It's no big deal. What surprises me most is that the administrator has taken these videos off this site. I think this is blantant censorship. Take a look at yourselvess. Some of you sound like bible toting, book burners. The shame of it all.
[quote=shooter 57;1149838]i agree with superunknown21, the only thing i can add is my surprise that my fellow mongers are somewhat "holier than thou". i just looked at the videos again, and there are now over 20, 000 hits and on that site there are thousands of other videos. it's no big deal. what surprises me most is that the administrator has taken these videos off this site. i think this is blantant censorship. take a look at yourselvess. some of you sound like bible toting, book burners. the shame of it all.[/quote]"holier than thou"?"censorship"? you just don't get it.
videotaping private activity without knowledge or consent of the parties and displaying it here serves no purpose other than invading the girl's privacy and putting the spa and the girl in jeopardy. if the girl looks at all youthful, a federal law requires proof of legal age to be available. **** porn and trafficking are the most used pretext for le sex investigations. jackson has always taken a firm position prohibiting minors and anything related to minors in the forum.
maybe the overweight guy in the video got off showing us what he thinks is his moment of glory. or, if you dislike women and massage parlors, you may enjoy making them sweat le harrassment or deportation.
maybe you would like to be searched for cell phones and cameras before receiving any spa service.
your comments make as little sense as all the le scare posts.
i'm a believer in providing details in this forum (see my posts). but the reality is that there is always some degree of risk present in spa action. privacy in the sessions is what makes the risk acceptable for us and the providers.
those in the business are well aware of this and take a variety of precautions, including recycling the same working names among different workers in different spas.
these girls all have lives and families outside (and usually far from) the spas. most don't advertise that they are spa workers.
you don't like "censorship" of spa workers names and pictures? why don't you put your picture and place of employment on the forum?
lr
[quote=lone ranger; 1149930]"holier than thou"?"censorship"? you just don't get it.
videotaping private activity without knowledge or consent of the parties and displaying it here serves no purpose other than invading the girl's privacy and putting the spa and the girl in jeopardy. if the girl looks at all youthful, a federal law requires proof of legal age to be available. **** porn and trafficking are the most used pretext for le sex investigations. jackson has always taken a firm position prohibiting minors and anything related to minors in the forum.
maybe the overweight guy in the video got off showing us what he thinks is his moment of glory. or, if you dislike women and massage parlors, you may enjoy making them sweat le harrassment or deportation.
maybe you would like to be searched for cell phones and cameras before receiving any spa service.
your comments make as little sense as all the le scare posts.
i'm a believer in providing details in this forum (see my posts). but the reality is that there is always some degree of risk present in spa action. privacy in the sessions is what makes the risk acceptable for us and the providers.
those in the business are well aware of this and take a variety of precautions, including recycling the same working names among different workers in different spas.
these girls all have lives and families outside (and usually far from) the spas. most don't advertise that they are spa workers.
you don't like "censorship" of spa workers names and pictures? why don't you put your picture and place of employment on the forum?
lr[/quote]well said. the videos did not match the terms of service of the site which stated that there must be consent to post. that is not censorship, they were not removed due to content they were removed due to lack of consent.
[QUOTE=SuperUnknown21;1149793]If you are trying to claim status like you get better treatment than I do, think what you want. The only reason I took Jun after my last half-assed visit with her is because I felt bad using a freebie on someone as good as Ruby. I really just wanted a nice long, slow BJ, which I got until she started trying to finish me off. So I decided to beat up the kitty for a while. At that point, it was pretty clear why she wanted me to finish. 20 minutes of my schlong crashing into her cervix probably got a bit annoying. I may have had her right after you, but I never noticed. You must not have done a very good job, or maybe you just weren't big enough to stretch her out at all? I DEFINITELY got past the "used part", surely unfamiliar territory for you. You're probably the other schmuck I saw walking in with a card and a box of chocolates last week. Haha.[/QUOTE]What are you so angry about? Is it because the box of chocolates and card weren't for you? I'm well versed enough to know that most of the girls there and at other spas really don't like chocolates. I know because they usually offer them to me afterwards but then in the immortal words of your distant cousin,"Life is like a box of chocolates. You just don't know what you're going to to get." Or in the anniversal 20th year quote from Rodney King,"Can't we all just get along?" You should have gone with Ruby and been happier in the long run my friend.
I'd say it's about time for a few of you to get a room and hash it out. While the rest of us carry on.
[QUOTE=Book Man; 1145784]I know you will be busy but could you ask her if she is ever going to return to Warren? Thanks and enjoy.
Happy Mongering. [/QUOTE]On a trip to Battle Creek last week, I decided to make a detour and visit Hawaii Spa and see if Lisa was working. When I arrived, the Mamasan yelled behind the door "what do you want". I said "I am her for a massage". The door opens and an elderly mamasan lets me in. I asked if Mickey was working. The mamasan said "yes".
I got undressed and in walks Mickey. I asked her if she was Lisa from 4 Seasons. She said yes. She was about 5'2".105 lbs, fake boobs (and somewhat odd looking) , decent face, tanned skin, big butt, large pussy. Overall, decent looking lady.
I then asked her why she left 4 Seasons. She mentioned several reasons but also noted that she liked Michigan men better.
All righty then. You guys from Ohio now know why she left. Michigan Men know how to swing their clubs! Apparently, we the finest, need to increase our visits to Warren to give the girls a good working over since you guys are probably not getting it done. Let's see: One guy says he is hung like a horse, another guy writes a fictitious review on a lady and a third guy boasts that he had a girl right before the guy that is hung like a horse. There you go. Michigan men perform while Ohio men worry about how big their units are. Guys, it's about quality not quantity.
Review: After undressing, Lisa / Mickey kept grabbing my ass and told me I had a big beautiful ass. She then started giving me a handjob, got me hard, and then grabbed my unit and pulled me to the table shower room. Slip and slide was good. Back in the room, massage was maybe 30 seconds. She went to town on my unit with her mouth. Quite the amazing suction unit! We ended in FS. I worked her over and she complained that I was "superman". Well, I am not superman. Just your typical club-swinging Michigan man!
Anyways, I did not particularly care for Lisa. I prefer the thinner ladies. Probably will stick with Shampoo and the other ladies at M1 in Detroit.
But, I did verify that Mickey is the former Lisa from 4 Seasons in Newton Falls. Just in case you needed verification.
[QUOTE=TwistedBrother;1150615]I'd say it's about time for a few of you to get a room and hash it out. While the rest of us carry on.[/QUOTE]I agree. This isn't the place.
[QUOTE=Daryl67; 1151241]I asked her if she was Lisa from 4 Seasons. She said yes. She was about 5'2".105 lbs, fake boobs (and somewhat odd looking) , decent face, tanned skin, big butt, large pussy. Overall, decent looking lady.
I then asked her why she left 4 Seasons. She mentioned several reasons but also noted that she liked Michigan men better.
Review: After undressing, Lisa / Mickey kept grabbing my ass and told me I had a big beautiful ass. She then started giving me a handjob, got me hard, and then grabbed my unit and pulled me to the table shower room. Slip and slide was good. Back in the room, massage was maybe 30 seconds. She went to town on my unit with her mouth. Quite the amazing suction unit! We ended in FS. I worked her over and she complained that I was "superman". Well, I am not superman. Just your typical club-swinging Michigan man!
Anyways, I did not particularly care for Lisa. I prefer the thinner ladies. Probably will stick with Shampoo and the other ladies at M1 in Detroit.
But, I did verify that Mickey is the former Lisa from 4 Seasons in Newton Falls. Just in case you needed verification. [/QUOTE]Lisa / Mickey was pretty thin when in Warren. Body like Kobe Tai the porn star. She was maybe 95 lbs when in Warren. Petite but has an bubble butt.
And also dude. She calls everyone "Superman". Don't get too excited about yourself.
[QUOTE=Squiggy; 1151464]Lisa / Mickey was pretty thin when in Warren. Body like Kobe Tai the porn star. She was maybe 95 lbs when in Warren. Petite but has an bubble butt.
And also dude. She calls everyone "Superman". Don't get too excited about yourself.[/QUOTE]Dude? WTF. I stated in my review that I was not "superman". Obviously, you did not properly read my review.
Concerning her weight, she probably put on some mass when she was on vacation between July and December. Of course, I did not actually weigh her so she may be 95 lbs. It was just a guess on my part.
[QUOTE=Squiggy; 1151464]Lisa / Mickey was pretty thin when in Warren. Body like Kobe Tai the porn star. She was maybe 95 lbs when in Warren. Petite but has an bubble butt.
And also dude. She calls everyone "Superman". Don't get too excited about yourself. [/QUOTE]I've got verification and actually talked to Lisa / Mickey over the phone when my brother stopped by to see her on his way back home from Ohio. It is Lisa and she did put on some weight because she took a four months vacation. One of the reason she gave was that 4S was open 24 hours and she was tired of the long hours. I think Hawaiin Spa is only open to 1am so she's getting a good 6 hours sleep now. Remember, she was at 4S for over 4 years. But she seemed happy when we spoke. I think there were other factors involved for her exiting 4S as well. It was bought out by a new owner and Annie from Tokyo was running it as the mamasam plus Sophia from Sun Spa was working there at the time when everything went down.
Who knows, maybe she'll get tired to the club swinging Michigan men and come back to Warren / Niles to grace us with her presence once again. I'm sure the Ohio men down here well eventually entice her back. I heard she's a fan of IHop. Gift cards anyone?
And yes she says all the right things to everyone. Everyone is her superman, her boyfriend, and of course her Mr Handsome. But she was a fun, good person.