[QUOTE=OldGoober;3202081]He is probably checked into a clinic to keep his green cumming dick from falling off.[/QUOTE]Ha ha ha that guy is a legend.
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[QUOTE=OldGoober;3202081]He is probably checked into a clinic to keep his green cumming dick from falling off.[/QUOTE]Ha ha ha that guy is a legend.
[QUOTE=JoeBogus;3201989][URL]http://kinkyfeed4you.com/0839e98b0b48[/URL][/QUOTE]Ha so glad I don't need to read this just kidding lmao interesting read.
[QUOTE=VelvetRayne;3200717]Great BLOW JOB!! Merry Christmas to all the wonderful people on this forum. I will have food and drink at my house. If you have no one to share the holidays with you are welcome to stop by.
If you do not want to be alone please do not hesitate to call and stop by.
Merry Christmas everyone! Love you all!!
Xoxo,
VR.[/QUOTE]You have such a way with words darling LOL Hope Santa delivered you a white Christmas and so much more Kisses and warm wet licks.
The older I get the more difficult time I have keeping it up wearing a condom. Any advice?
[QUOTE=SilkyWetness;3202507]Ha so glad I don't need to read this just kidding lmao interesting read.[/QUOTE]I've only visited you once, but you definitely don't need this advice, you do just fine.
Dude, she does better than just fine. One of the best there is, right up there with Velvet.
[QUOTE=Deadbeat;3203158]I've only visited you once, but you definitely don't need this advice, you do just fine.[/QUOTE]
Thats because velvet was my mentor she's who help create my fabulous self thanks girly.
First off I hope everyone is having a great Holiday Season and Thank You to everyone for seeing any of the EE ladies this year and Admin for a great USASG and the new Classified site!
As for Mollee and Madeleine and some of the other EE ladies.
Yes they seem to come and go daily. I try to keep up with it all but even I cannot.
Also they want their profiles off the website cause people they know don't look and find them on there.
As you know a couple the ladies only work couple days a month. Each one has different reasons like school or regular job or bf etc.
Even popular Brooke changes her schedule almost weekly so this is not anything against you if you ask for a lady several times and you find out she is not available etc.
I will hopefully have some new talent in the near future. I have had a few chances to have a few new ladies but they were high drama and I can handle only so much.
Another side note: Former EE lady Kierra is pregnant about 5 months if anyone is interested in that let me know.
Thanks again everyone. I am always available if anyone wants to know something. EE.
[QUOTE=Buster6914;3203236]Dude, she does better than just fine. One of the best there is, right up there with Velvet.[/QUOTE]Is she that orally talented? I've seen a few ladies that were top notch with their mouths, but have not seen VR yet. I'm always on the lookout for a provider that excels orally.
Cincyfungirl is amazing at it.
[QUOTE=ThisOnesOnMe;3203948]Is she that orally talented? I've seen a few ladies that were top notch with their mouths, but have not seen VR yet. I'm always on the lookout for a provider that excels orally.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GMichael;3203056]The older I get the more difficult time I have keeping it up wearing a condom. Any advice?[/QUOTE]Have you tried polyurethane condoms instead of latex? Another option could be finding a provider willing to use female condoms. Or how about finding a sugarbaby who is willing to go bareback?
One of the contributing factors to E. D. Is the fact that condoms are too tight. Try a magnum. Even if you aren't magnum in size, they will stay on. They are larger in diameter and an inch or two longer. SKYN makes a large size too and is latex free.
[QUOTE=GMichael;3203056]The older I get the more difficult time I have keeping it up wearing a condom. Any advice?[/QUOTE]
I have had the same problem. I am in decent shape also. I have to use big condoms, but even then it can be difficult to stay fully erect. I have used male enhancement pills. They always say they make you bigger, but I only saw a small gain in size. They do however get more blood flow to your penis. So makes it easier to keep it hard. I used Size Genix. It doesn't work as well as Viagra, but it does work. They do make you more horny, so you need relieved more often.
[QUOTE=GMichael;3203056]The older I get the more difficult time I have keeping it up wearing a condom. Any advice?[/QUOTE]
Hahaha on the contrary I have been feeding the unsuspecting girls of cincinnati my green cum. Love having them swallow it all down! Will be posting more reviews when girls fall off the grid. Hehehehe.
[QUOTE=OldGoober;3202081]He is probably checked into a clinic to keep his green cumming dick from falling off.[/QUOTE]
Jenna CL of Dayton is allegedly gone per this post this morning on the Dayton board:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?11513-USA-Adult-Classified-Advertiser-Reviews&p=3206012&viewfull=1#post3206012[/URL]
I've moved this to the more appropriate Octagon and on the Stupid Shit Dayton boards in hopes of best following forum rules here. I think we have a new dilemma as I've hinted in my recent post here:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9626-Rants-Raves-and-Opinions-AKA-quot-The-Octagon-quot&p=3195167&viewfull=1#post3195167[/URL]
Though I've never encountered Jenna I'm still moved by her passing. She's as much a victim as Dayton's CL panty girl (Becca?) and the myriad of using SP's that have flashed before our collective eyes and continue to flame-out at a frequency that appears to be weekly (sometimes daily).
More startling is this: many of us know using SPs right fucking now. Many of us continue to see SPs absolutely knowing they're not only supporting an H habit, many know that SP is managing her addiction either at that moment or she's about to head to her local dope boy soon after she's done with you, her money source. In my decades in the hobby and as is the case with so many veteran seniors on this board, we've never seen this death-related hobby phenomenon before: SPs dropping dead resulting from their reason for being in the hobby: H cash generation.
It's no longer to support kids, school, debt from a deadbeat husband, bad decisions, pimp, abusive leech boyfriend, whatever. It's now primarily about H habit support. And it's happened so suddenly in comparison to my years in the hobby. It's not only killing them, our hobby lives are significantly more dangerous as a result. And it's not local to Southwestern ohio. It's everywhere in this nation.
In the past, the worst SPs were doing was smoking crack, snorting meth, of simply toking a doobie (showing my age). But they weren't dying. And now they are. And why are they dying even more now? Because they're believing their dope boys now who are promising them "oh no, I'm keeping a close eye on my H and I promise you it doesn't have any trace of Fentanyl or any other impurities for sure!" Seriously, these users are being told by their suppliers their supplies are clean. And it's killing them. The suppliers need to suffer and they don't. They just find new users.
So what do we hobbyists do?
Here's what I'm going to do. I'm no longer going to engage the H addicts. But what I won't do is post their names here. Board rules are board rules and without this board more hobbyists might also be hurt.
I'm never going to say I "know" an SP is using unless the SP herself has told me (and they do). They do because I simply ask and they sing canary music. They sing because they want empathy and I give it to them as soon as I sense their using because it absolutely helps me properly assess my surroundings while at the same time giving them the opportunity to better focus in our particular moment at the time. Maybe you'd call it a technique. I call it a hobby survival tool. I believe the more you know about an SP when you're in the moment the safer you are when it comes to judging whether or not to stay or go in any situation. So I not only ask. I make sure I know to the best of my ability.
A QUESTION FOR Jackson AND A2, please:
So, assuming I know as having been told by the SP herself, will we board members be violating board rules by offering to share via PM provider names we know are H users?
I'm not trying to start a witch hunt. I'm trying to keep my board brethren safe and alive and no longer be a contributor to a known H user's problem. Why now? Actually a selfish reason: Aside from no longer wanting to support an SP's H habit, it's now really about my own personal safety.
What may I and what may I not say via PM to other board members about H users?
Harry.
[QUOTE=HarryHobbiest;3206156]Jenna CL of Dayton is allegedly gone per this post this morning on the Dayton board:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?11513-USA-Adult-Classified-Advertiser-Reviews&p=3206012&viewfull=1#post3206012[/URL]
I've moved this to the more appropriate Octagon and on the Stupid Shit Dayton boards in hopes of best following forum rules here. I think we have a new dilemma as I've hinted in my recent post here:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9626-Rants-Raves-and-Opinions-AKA-quot-The-Octagon-quot&p=3195167&viewfull=1#post3195167[/URL]
Though I've never encountered Jenna I'm still moved by her passing. She's as much a victim as Dayton's CL panty girl (Becca?) and the myriad of using SP's that have flashed before our collective eyes and continue to flame-out at a frequency that appears to be weekly (sometimes daily).
More startling is this: many of us know using SPs right fucking now. Many of us continue to see SPs absolutely knowing they're not only supporting an H habit, many know that SP is managing her addiction either at that moment or she's about to head to her local dope boy soon after she's done with you, her money source. In my decades in the hobby and as is the case with so many veteran seniors on this board, we've never seen this death-related hobby phenomenon before: SPs dropping dead resulting from their reason for being in the hobby: H cash generation.
It's no longer to support kids, school, debt from a deadbeat husband, bad decisions, pimp, abusive leech boyfriend, whatever. It's now primarily about H habit support. And it's happened so suddenly in comparison to my years in the hobby. It's not only killing them, our hobby lives are significantly more dangerous as a result. And it's not local to Southwestern ohio. It's everywhere in this nation.
In the past, the worst SPs were doing was smoking crack, snorting meth, of simply toking a doobie (showing my age). But they weren't dying. And now they are. And why are they dying even more now? Because they're believing their dope boys now who are promising them "oh no, I'm keeping a close eye on my H and I promise you it doesn't have any trace of Fentanyl or any other impurities for sure!" Seriously, these users are being told by their suppliers their supplies are clean. And it's killing them. The suppliers need to suffer and they don't. They just find new users.
So what do we hobbyists do?
Here's what I'm going to do. I'm no longer going to engage the H addicts. But what I won't do is post their names here. Board rules are board rules and without this board more hobbyists might also be hurt.
I'm never going to say I "know" an SP is using unless the SP herself has told me (and they do). They do because I simply ask and they sing canary music. They sing because they want empathy and I give it to them as soon as I sense their using because it absolutely helps me properly assess my surroundings while at the same time giving them the opportunity to better focus in our particular moment at the time. Maybe you'd call it a technique. I call it a hobby survival tool. I believe the more you know about an SP when you're in the moment the safer you are when it comes to judging whether or not to stay or go in any situation. So I not only ask. I make sure I know to the best of my ability.
A QUESTION FOR Jackson AND A2, please:
So, assuming I know as having been told by the SP herself, will we board members be violating board rules by offering to share via PM provider names we know are H users?
I'm not trying to start a witch hunt. I'm trying to keep my board brethren safe and alive and no longer be a contributor to a known H user's problem. Why now? Actually a selfish reason: Aside from no longer wanting to support an SP's H habit, it's now really about my own personal safety.
What may I and what may I not say via PM to other board members about H users?
Harry.[/QUOTE]Your beating a dead horse especially when not mentioning that plenty of mongers offer these girls party favors in return for services. Should a clean escort report mongers that try to trade party favors for services?
[blue]They will be able to on the new classified site
A2[/blue]
I made this choice a while back. And the evidence is very glaring as to who is on the H and who isn't.
Smart move by you. Others should take note.
[QUOTE=HarryHobbiest;3206156]Jenna CL of Dayton is allegedly gone per this post this morning on the Dayton board:
o[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?11513-USA-Adult-Classified-Advertiser-Reviews&p=3206012&viewfull=1#post3206012[/URL]
I've moved this to the more appropriate Octagon and on the Stupid Shit Dayton boards in hopes of best following forum rules here. I think we have a new dilemma as I've hinted in my recent post here:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9626-Rants-Raves-and-Opinions-AKA-quot-The-Octagon-quot&p=3195167&viewfull=1#post3195167[/URL]
Though I've never encountered Jenna I'm still moved by her passing. She's as much a victim as Dayton's CL panty girl (Becca?) and the myriad of using SP's that have flashed before our collective eyes and continue to flame-out at a frequency that appears to be weekly (sometimes daily).
More startling is this: many of us know using SPs right fucking now. Many of us continue to see SPs absolutely knowing they're not only supporting an H habit, many know that SP is managing her addiction either at that moment or she's about to head to her local dope boy soon after she's done with you, her money source. In my decades in the hobby and as is the case with so many veteran seniors on this board, we've never seen this death-related hobby phenomenon before: SPs dropping dead resulting from their reason for being in the hobby: H cash generation.
It's no longer to support kids, school, debt from a deadbeat husband, bad decisions, pimp, abusive leech boyfriend, whatever. It's now primarily about H habit support. And it's happened so suddenly in comparison to my years in the hobby. It's not only killing them, our hobby lives are significantly more dangerous as a result. And it's not local to Southwestern ohio. It's everywhere in this nation.
In the past, the worst SPs were doing was smoking crack, snorting meth, of simply toking a doobie (showing my age). But they weren't dying. And now they are. And why are they dying even more now? Because they're believing their dope boys now who are promising them "oh no, I'm keeping a close eye on my H and I promise you it doesn't have any trace of Fentanyl or any other impurities for sure!" Seriously, these users are being told by their suppliers their supplies are clean. And it's killing them. The suppliers need to suffer and they don't. They just find new users.
So what do we hobbyists do?
Here's what I'm going to do. I'm no longer going to engage the H addicts. But what I won't do is post their names here. Board rules are board rules and without this board more hobbyists might also be hurt.
I'm never going to say I "know" an SP is using unless the SP herself has told me (and they do). They do because I simply ask and they sing canary music. They sing because they want empathy and I give it to them as soon as I sense their using because it absolutely helps me properly assess my surroundings while at the same time giving them the opportunity to better focus in our particular moment at the time. Maybe you'd call it a technique. I call it a hobby survival tool. I believe the more you know about an SP when you're in the moment the safer you are when it comes to judging whether or not to stay or go in any situation. So I not only ask. I make sure I know to the best of my ability.
A QUESTION FOR Jackson AND A2, please:
So, assuming I know as having been told by the SP herself, will we board members be violating board rules by offering to share via PM provider names we know are H users?
I'm not trying to start a witch hunt. I'm trying to keep my board brethren safe and alive and no longer be a contributor to a known H user's problem. Why now? Actually a selfish reason: Aside from no longer wanting to support an SP's H habit, it's now really about my own personal safety.
What may I and what may I not say via PM to other board members about H users?
Harry.[/QUOTE]
I just had a guy pm me with zero post asking information on a certain provider that has been on here for at 5 years all you have to do is google her name and all you need to know is there. But this guy pms me. I didn't know the name so I checked his posts nothing at all. So suspicious as I am I refused to give him any information oh I forgot this guy even requested a read receipt. I just suspected police or the guy has a nefarious agenda. I wasn't very friendly in my reply as a matter of fact I used some very sharp adjectives at this guy. I will send the provider in question a text to be wary be safe guys. HL29.
100% agree. I would add that SPs who go down this route quickly become unreliable and the quality of service goes down badly. Hygeine and safety as well- more likely to go BB without caring with whom- which, unless you're Anon77, is a bug, not a feature. But mostly I will not knowingly help someone to kill themselves, which is what is so likely to happen. I've been involved in treatment of chronic pain since the 80's, and was a contrary voice when the prevailing wisdom was that people who took opiates for pain wouldn't get addicted. There are times I really hate being right. The problem with opiate addiction vs. Say alcoholism is that "hitting bottom" is fatal more often than not.
Be safe. If you're an SP with a substance abuse problem, please seek help.
The good dr.
[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;3206343]I just had a guy pm me with zero post asking information on a certain provider that has been on here for at 5 years all you have to do is google her name and all you need to know is there. But this guy pms me. I didn't know the name so I checked his posts nothing at all. So suspicious as I am I refused to give him any information oh I forgot this guy even requested a read receipt. I just suspected police or the guy has a nefarious agenda. I wasn't very friendly in my reply as a matter of fact I used some very sharp adjectives at this guy. I will send the provider in question a text to be wary be safe guys. HL29.[/QUOTE]I had the opposite problem. Some guy with 5 posts (4 of which were ISO posts seeking a cockhold fantasy), PMed me, telling me he was so-and-so's boyfriend and asked that I STOP seeing her; she happens to be someone I enjoy seeing and have done so multiple times.
Not going to happen unless she asks me to stop patronizing her because I enjoy time with her and I don't know him from Adam so my loyalties are to her and me.
Of course I told her about it next time I saw her and she basically said she had no idea who he was. Then we fucked again and loved it.
[QUOTE=HarryHobbiest;3206156]A QUESTION FOR Jackson AND A2, please:
So, assuming I know as having been told by the SP herself, will we board members be violating board rules by offering to share via PM provider names we know are H users?
I'm not trying to start a witch hunt. I'm trying to keep my board brethren safe and alive and no longer be a contributor to a known H user's problem. Why now? Actually a selfish reason: Aside from no longer wanting to support an SP's H habit, it's now really about my own personal safety.
What may I and what may I not say via PM to other board members about H users?
Harry.[/QUOTE][BLUE]You won't find anywhere in the rules where it says you're not allowed to talk about drug use among providers. If you see needle tracks or other signs of drug abuse post it.
In the future since you're not moderated if you want to ask a question you should PM me. Unless somebody who is moderated quotes your post I don't see it.
A2[/BLUE]
[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;3206343]I just had a guy pm me with zero post asking information on a certain provider that has been on here for at 5 years all you have to do is google her name and all you need to know is there. But this guy pms me. I didn't know the name so I checked his posts nothing at all. So suspicious as I am I refused to give him any information oh I forgot this guy even requested a read receipt. I just suspected police or the guy has a nefarious agenda. I wasn't very friendly in my reply as a matter of fact I used some very sharp adjectives at this guy. I will send the provider in question a text to be wary be safe guys. HL29.[/QUOTE]I was made aware and totally appreciate the heads up.
As mentioned on my Octagon post earlier today here:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9626-Rants-Raves-and-Opinions-AKA-quot-The-Octagon-quot&p=3206156&viewfull=1[/URL]#post3206156.
I'm not trying to start a witch hunt. Instead, I'm trying to keep my board brethren safe and alive as it's now really about our own personal safety.
Interestingly, I've already received PM's from hobbyists with SP names. So, I've decided not to post my own personal observations right now. Instead, as a service to my fellow hobbyists I will post provider names as supplied by you guys via PM. But I won't name your names. That way, the Admins on this site will be able to confirm all I'm doing is relaying received reports from the team via PM.
So, you know a provider who's using but you don't want to report it? PM me and I'll do it for you but I won't report your name. This is not to hurt the SP's (though I know it might do just that). It's to help protect our team.
So far, here are the known H users as PM'd to me from other hobbyists on this board so far:
Kly30.
Blonde kitty.
Brooklyn marie.
Harry.
[QUOTE=Admin2;3206546][BLUE]You won't find anywhere in the rules where it says you're not allowed to talk about drug use among providers. If you see needle tracks or other signs of drug abuse post it.
In the future since you're not moderated if you want to ask a question you should PM me. Unless somebody who is moderated quotes your post I don't see it.
A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DNut;3206465]I had the opposite problem. Some guy with 5 posts (4 of which were ISO posts seeking a cockhold fantasy), PMed me, telling me he was so-and-so's boyfriend and asked that I STOP seeing her; she happens to be someone I enjoy seeing and have done so multiple times.
Not going to happen unless she asks me to stop patronizing her because I enjoy time with her and I don't know him from Adam so my loyalties are to her and me.
Of course I told her about it next time I saw her and she basically said she had no idea who he was. Then we fucked again and loved it.[/QUOTE]I would see her more if someone tried that crap with me and put more effort into it!
Might it be easier to have a thread or post that lists the ones that AREN'T on H?
[QUOTE=HarryHobbiest;3206673]As mentioned on my Octagon post earlier today here:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9626-Rants-Raves-and-Opinions-AKA-quot-The-Octagon-quot&p=3206156&viewfull=1[/URL]#post3206156.
I'm not trying to start a witch hunt. Instead, I'm trying to keep my board brethren safe and alive as it's now really about our own personal safety.
Interestingly, I've already received PM's from hobbyists with SP names. So, I've decided not to post my own personal observations right now. Instead, as a service to my fellow hobbyists I will post provider names as supplied by you guys via PM. But I won't name your names. That way, the Admins on this site will be able to confirm all I'm doing is relaying received reports from the team via PM.
So, you know a provider who's using but you don't want to report it? PM me and I'll do it for you but I won't report your name. This is not to hurt the SP's (though I know it might do just that). It's to help protect our team.
So far, here are the known H users as PM'd to me from other hobbyists on this board so far:
Kly30.
Blonde kitty.
Brooklyn marie.
Harry.[/QUOTE].
If there are some, then this is definitely recommended.
A thread for ones that are, and a thread for ones that aren't. That would be how I'd do it.
[QUOTE=RogerOver;3206799]Might it be easier to have a thread or post that lists the ones that AREN'T on H?
.[/QUOTE]
I notice that Harry's name is on the H user list. That's how easy it is for somebody to screw up and ruin a reputation. So should we also start listing the pill users, crackheads, coke users, meth-heads, and drunks? I don't think that a girl's performance is necessarily related to drug use. There are way too many other variables to consider. Let's stick to SAFETY and PERFORMANCE issues.
[QUOTE=Gatty23;3206832]I notice that Harry's name is on the H user list. That's how easy it is for somebody to screw up and ruin a reputation. So should we also start listing the pill users, crackheads, coke users, meth-heads, and drunks? I don't think that a girl's performance is necessarily related to drug use. There are way too many other variables to consider. Let's stick to SAFETY and PERFORMANCE issues.[/QUOTE]Let's not act like heroin just appeared heroin has been around forever in the 1800's it was widely used by prostitutes after the turn of century all the way up to now. I remember being in the navy in 1979 I met a prostitute in Savannah Georgia she shot up before we did the deed John Belushi died of a heroin coke speed ball combination Etta James Miles Davis the list goes on we're all heroin addicts. I'm not insensitive to these ladies drug problem but us starting a new thread to name known drug users isn't going to stop these ladies from using and overdosing. Experts are stumped the more education and warnings and rehabs they put out and open they still have relapse first time users and continued use. If it's a personal choice not to see the ladies that use heroin then that's fine, if you want to put in your review that a girl has an addiction problem that's ok to, but to open a thread that only has girls that use is beyond what I think this forum is about. JMHO. HL29.
[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;3206956]Let's not act like heroin just appeared heroin has been around forever in the 1800's it was widely used by prostitutes after the turn of century all the way up to now. I remember being in the navy in 1979 I met a prostitute in Savannah Georgia she shot up before we did the deed John Belushi died of a heroin coke speed ball combination Etta James Miles Davis the list goes on we're all heroin addicts. I'm not insensitive to these ladies drug problem but us starting a new thread to name known drug users isn't going to stop these ladies from using and overdosing. Experts are stumped the more education and warnings and rehabs they put out and open they still have relapse first time users and continued use. If it's a personal choice not to see the ladies that use heroin then that's fine, if you want to put in your review that a girl has an addiction problem that's ok to, but to open a thread that only has girls that use is beyond what I think this forum is about. JMHO. HL29.[/QUOTE]I agree. That shit can be called out in the reviews. Quick question for you though: Would you say things are worse today than they were a few years ago due to H? I think so.
[QUOTE=RogerOver;3207011]I agree. That shit can be called out in the reviews. Quick question for you though: Would you say things are worse today than they were a few years ago due to H? I think so.[/QUOTE]Call it out in your Review, IF it made a difference in her performance or appearance. Unless the lady tells you implicitly that she is "riding the Horse. " DON'T speculate.
We do not need a "USASG Witch Hunt. " The woman you damn today, COULD be the "Hooker with a Heart of Gold and Clean as the Day She Was Born" tomorrow.
"There but for the Grace of God Go I. " is a phrase I use almost every day. At one time in my life some would have called me an alcoholic. I drank way too much and many nights I should have been arrested for DUI. Thank the Lord I was never caught and I never hurt anyone except myself. Today I am not the same man. If I would have been put on a "Drunk List" on the internet, that would live with me the rest of my life. People change, in this case we all hope and pray they do, but until you have proof positive, don't spread gossip or rumor.
[QUOTE=RogerOver;3207011]I agree. That shit can be called out in the reviews. Quick question for you though: Would you say things are worse today than they were a few years ago due to H? I think so.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure there has been an increase in overall opioid use, but I have seen statistics that show an increase in H use that coincides with the crack down on so called "pill mills" and access to prescription pain meds.
[QUOTE=RogerOver;3207011]I agree. That shit can be called out in the reviews. Quick question for you though: Would you say things are worse today than they were a few years ago due to H? I think so.[/QUOTE]It has definitely gotten worse I think the reasons there is so much talk about it is the fact people are dying because of the bad shit the dealers are cutting it with along with the heroin itself being so potent. Also and people might not like this but young white America is hooked and hooked bad rural and suburban. And they don't know how to stop or prevent it the epidemic seems to have grown legs and running wild no matter what. Go thru jailtracker and look what the white females are charged with compared to black females most white females have drug charges alcohol heroin cocaine or charges related prostitution parfanalia or some kind of theft. Black females have a lot of violent crimes assaults domestic violence robbery etc. In the 60's heroin effected the black communities especially in large cities not so much here, in the 90's it was crack cocaine that robbed the black community of its senses. In the 60's hallucinogenic drugs were the rage in the white community. These things run in cycles and I'm sure the next generation will distain the use of heroin I see it already. HL29.
[QUOTE=Gatty23;3206832]I notice that Harry's name is on the H user list. That's how easy it is for somebody to screw up and ruin a reputation. So should we also start listing the pill users, crackheads, coke users, meth-heads, and drunks? I don't think that a girl's performance is necessarily related to drug use. There are way too many other variables to consider. Let's stick to SAFETY and PERFORMANCE issues.[/QUOTE]I agree that this site shouldn't go overboard with speculation about girls who are into drugs and those that aren't. After all, as Gatty23 points out, the main purpose of this site is to share PERFORMANCE reviews. But even if a girl is using these things and her performance is still good, there's still the issue of SAFETY, as Gatty23 also points out. On that issue I feel we owe it to other mongers to point it out if it's OBVIOUS that a provider is using. No, he shouldn't speculate or spread rumors but if someone is a heavy user then, in my opinion, it adds to the safety concerns because it raises the risks of being scammed, robbed, etc. It's no secret that crimes of robbery, break-ins, etc. , have increased steadily over the years largely due to people stealing and robbing to raise drug money, and that puts us hobbyists in more danger. Yes, performance and safety is what it's all about, but I think safety comes first. Is there anyone reading this who doesn't care if they get robbed or busted in some ugly situation?
What's to stop a pissed off monger who had a perceived bad service claim she is on H and you post it? I would rather see your confirmed list then a rumor list from second hand info that may or may not be correct.
[QUOTE=HarryHobbiest;3206673]As mentioned on my Octagon post earlier today here:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9626-Rants-Raves-and-Opinions-AKA-quot-The-Octagon-quot&p=3206156&viewfull=1[/URL]#post3206156.
I'm not trying to start a witch hunt. Instead, I'm trying to keep my board brethren safe and alive as it's now really about our own personal safety.
Interestingly, I've already received PM's from hobbyists with SP names. So, I've decided not to post my own personal observations right now. Instead, as a service to my fellow hobbyists I will post provider names as supplied by you guys via PM. But I won't name your names. That way, the Admins on this site will be able to confirm all I'm doing is relaying received reports from the team via PM.
So, you know a provider who's using but you don't want to report it? PM me and I'll do it for you but I won't report your name. This is not to hurt the SP's (though I know it might do just that). It's to help protect our team.
So far, here are the known H users as PM'd to me from other hobbyists on this board so far:
Kly30.
Blonde kitty.
Brooklyn marie.
Harry.[/QUOTE]
I completely agree with with nearly everyone's points about reasons why NOT to begin posting H user names when the H problem is historically nothing new. But what IS new within the past half-decade or so is the following:
What is different about the H epidemic now than 100 years ago?
A- price has never been lower.
B- supply has never been higher.
C- legally prescribed opiates are significantly tighter now than ever so addicted pill seekers for whatever reason turn to street H instead because doctors are no longer prescribing (much less refilling) as casually as they clearly used to do less than a decade ago.
And the last two points here are the most important IMHO:
D- potency has never been stronger.
E- potency is now enhanced uncontrollably with additives such as Fentanyl (which BTW don't even react to rescue cocktails such as Narcan so people still die).
Outing SP's because of suspected STD's is not permitted on this board for whatever reasons the owner / Admin of this board has chosen. My guess is it is primarily because of two reasons: we cannot prove STDs and we can (at least try to) protect ourselves with condoms. Outing SP's because of suspected H use is permitted and I believe it is smart because we cannot protect ourselves from the escalated potential of consequences some of us would prefer to avoid as a result of such knowledge and there is no "condom" to put on to protect us against unknowingly visiting an H user other than advance knowledge.
This idea is NOT about outing user SPs simply for the sake of outing them.
THIS IS ABOUT KEEPING OURSELVES SAFE BECAUSE KNOWLEDGE YIELDS SAFETY. This board is precisely about sharing knowledge. Sharing such knowledge among ourselves about H users provides those of us who wish to play "SAFEST" better safety choices. Simple.
Yes, the H epidemic has always been around. It has simply NEVER been more dangerous to us. Just as we report asshole pimps waiting to pounce from another room at a strange incall to help others be "SAFER," how can it not be our obligation to report an H user when such new dangers exist that newly compromise our safety like never before?
I VOTE FOR SAFETY GENTLEMEN. I believe choosing not to report H users means you're choosing against those of us who seek information to keep ourselves safer. It's the same as having had a gun pulled on you at an incall and not reporting it here IMHO.
Harry.
[QUOTE=HarryHobbiest;3206673]As mentioned on my Octagon post earlier today here:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9626-Rants-Raves-and-Opinions-AKA-quot-The-Octagon-quot&p=3206156&viewfull=1[/URL]#post3206156.
I'm not trying to start a witch hunt. Instead, I'm trying to keep my board brethren safe and alive as it's now really about our own personal safety.
Interestingly, I've already received PM's from hobbyists with SP names. So, I've decided not to post my own personal observations right now. Instead, as a service to my fellow hobbyists I will post provider names as supplied by you guys via PM. But I won't name your names. That way, the Admins on this site will be able to confirm all I'm doing is relaying received reports from the team via PM.
So, you know a provider who's using but you don't want to report it? PM me and I'll do it for you but I won't report your name. This is not to hurt the SP's (though I know it might do just that). It's to help protect our team.
So far, here are the known H users as PM'd to me from other hobbyists on this board so far:
Kly30.
Blonde kitty.
Brooklyn marie.
Harry.[/QUOTE]You can't say if someone was arrested or convicted on a drug charge based on a public record. But if you get information in a private message from an anonymous guy on a message board, that's good for proving that someone is using, right?
[QUOTE=Kenal1;3207253]I agree that this site shouldn't go overboard with speculation about girls who are into drugs and those that aren't. After all, as Gatty23 points out, the main purpose of this site is to share PERFORMANCE reviews. But even if a girl is using these things and her performance is still good, there's still the issue of SAFETY, as Gatty23 also points out. On that issue I feel we owe it to other mongers to point it out if it's OBVIOUS that a provider is using. No, he shouldn't speculate or spread rumors but if someone is a heavy user then, in my opinion, it adds to the safety concerns because it raises the risks of being scammed, robbed, etc. It's no secret that crimes of robbery, break-ins, etc. , have increased steadily over the years largely due to people stealing and robbing to raise drug money, and that puts us hobbyists in more danger. Yes, performance and safety is what it's all about, but I think safety comes first. Is there anyone reading this who doesn't care if they get robbed or busted in some ugly situation?[/QUOTE]You can make all the list you want but just basic human nature is going to work against most. When the P word comes into play mongers lose all sense of reasoning. As long as a provider is giving great to average service most mongers don't care. They only care about the service. You can see a provider for a long time before you start to see tell tale signs. The average monger can get bad service, be treated like shit, give a bad review and at end say he will probably repeat LOL. A girl can hide it for along time the same as doing bb. If they drop their price that's all that matters to most and will continue to have customers all the way back to the street corner. You talk about safety but you roll the dice every time you see a provider. You run the risk of disease, being busted to losing your family or job. List are fine and dandy but very few are going to pay heed to it. Basic human nature when it comes to P. The only true way to stay safe is give up the hobby but wait, all this can happen to ya in civy life if your at the wrong place at right time. JMHO.
Some of you guys are such drama queens.
Look its easy, just like anything else, consider the source and the subject.
Chick A has great reports by long time members, then suddenly some guy, out of the blue says "She's on H" nobody else follows up with "Yeah I was kinda noticing that her behavior has changed" just one guy who suddenly is talking smack. What does that mean? It means he probably wanted to stick his uncovered dick up her ass and she said no.
Chick B, used to have great reports, lately she has been slipping some and some guy says "I think she has some track marks, I'm not sure but they kind of looked like that" and some other guys say "yeah, she was calling somebody as soon as she got the money" or whatever. What does that mean? It probably means that something is up.
Some of you guys act like if it's written here then it becomes truth which is fucking weird because they are usually the same guys that will go on for days calling somebodies report BS.
Read, compare, evaluate, make informed choices.
A2.
Based on what criteria what definition H users? And an anonymous post or remark is acceptable?
Interesting.
[QUOTE=Lugnutz;3207603]You can't say if someone was arrested or convicted on a drug charge based on a public record. But if you get information in a private message from an anonymous guy on a message board, that's good for proving that someone is using, right?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lugnutz;3207603]You can't say if someone was arrested or convicted on a drug charge based on a public record. But if you get information in a private message from an anonymous guy on a message board, that's good for proving that someone is using, right?[/QUOTE]The problem with discussing arrest records is that it will lead to outing the provider's identity.
Saying a lady uses H or any other substance would be done using the lady's work name, which doesn't out her real identity.