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[QUOTE=BastardChorum;6055613]By all means, adopt whatever approach works for you. Just keep in mind, once you air it out on a public forum, it's fair game to be challenged, criticized, and scrutinized by any and all here.

Based on what you linked, your definition of 'real' pictures seems to be amateur selfies shot exclusively with a cell phone. If you've been mongering for 10 years with kgirls, you should know that is the exception and not the norm. For those that do post pictures of themselves, it largely consists of professionally taken shots at a studio, touched up and photoshopped to the girls preference or left up to the expertise of the photo editor / retoucher (kdolls is infamous for this as sometimes their girls look so damn similar). And in some cases, you can tell it's from the same photographer / studio as the props are the same, if only marginally rearranged or from a different angle.

Given the nature of the business, it stands to reason that they need to put their best face / tits / ass / body forward to pique the interest of their window shopping customers. Ultimately, giving rise to the adoption of professional photoshoots. You won't find detailed anecdotes of their personality, favorite pastimes, or the like here. All you get are photos, pertinent measurements, and an alphabet soup of services rendered. This has been the formula for kgirls for a while.

All said, you can definitely make the case that there's misrepresentation of who you finally see behind the door as a result of the above mentioned format but, IMO, for most of us here, real pictures means it's really her standing in front of the camera lens. Wildly imaginative, ambitious, and creative photoshoppers appears to be an unfortunate side effect of the whole process for us mongers. Sadly enough, one that isn't going to change or go away anytime soon regardless of monger's gripes about it, including mines.

The photos you see are more often than not, the best representation of what you [B]can[/B] get. Take it for what it is and evaluate / decide accordingly. From the vantage of mongers, not the best scenario to be in but if someone has a better approach, I'm all ears.[/QUOTE]"There is a class system. The 90 day wonders want to make money fast and clearly falsify their photos. They turn, they burn and then they are gone. The superstars and UTRs have such loyal followings that they really don't need photos or advertising. But many of them have posted totally accurate photos. I won't mention current providers but didn't Moli, Megan, Roya, Cona and Shannon (among others) look almost exactly like their ads?

[QUOTE=BuddhaHead;6054330]Whether it's 100%, 99%, or 75%, is irrelevant since one has to assume they are fake if there is no prior information to the contrary. Even if there are prior reviews, most hobbyists who see someone in person cannot tell for certain whether the pictures are fake (not the same person), real but altered, or real but from several years ago. Hobbyists' physical descriptions are very unreliable and are open to interpretation based on the words used and their own biases about looks ("not my type" That's why we get vague descriptions on body type and age, and that pics are "representative" or "90% accurate". All of these descriptions are unreliable and near meaningless. One has to see in-person in order to decide for themselves about their looks, regardless of whether the pics are "real".[/QUOTE]I adopt a more practical perspective than your pessimistic view of other's descriptive capacity. Not everyone can be a Pulitzer Prize awardee in literature or a walking thesaurus. Their own limitations shouldn't discount what they can offer and bring to the table. Everyone's description will be bound by their biases and collective pool of people that are familiar and recognizable to them. That's why in lieu of physical descriptions, some opt to point to a pornstar, celebrity, etc. As a visual proxy. I commend and tip my hat off to those that take the time to write and post a review, no matter how succinct or verbose it may be. We desperately need more people that do and everyone benefits from it.

Given the alternative (none really), any feedback from a trusted source is good. Biases should always be expected regardless of who it's from because, pardon the platitude, everyone is inherently biased. It's vastly more important to take into account the bias, see through it as best you can, and distill and formulate your own conclusions and key points from it. It's been tossed about here and there but a good method is to pay attention and put more weight on those that have similar tastes and preferences to your own. Similarly, compare and contrast reviews of girls that you and another have seen to determine biases and what aspects you both experienced and can agree upon so you can focus on that moving forward.

As I see it, the more reviews, the better. By collating them, picking them apart, and distilling them, you can form a more informed and realistic narrative of who you'll actually see.

Are all beautiful in a different way. I have seen each few times and I have no complain. It is great too have options; some days, I feel like Remi and some day, I feel like Dana. Remi is not a typical Korean Girl; she is more like Thai or South East Asian.

Jean was very hot also and perhaps my all time favorite in 2021 but no need to talk about her since she is GONE. I really liked her Korean K-Pop look. I say that she gave me the BEST sessions of all the above with exception of Dana.

Current hottest girl is Jazmin and the photo of her in the red dress is very accurate. If Jazmin was BBFS (she is CFS), I would have seen her 2 x / week. Jazmin is a perfect description of hot K Girl in my opinion and since look is subjective matter, some mongers here may disagree with that assessment and I am cool with it. I also think her body is very nice.

Jazmin tops Jean, Daisy, Mini, Remi, Dana or even Cami and anyone else that I have seen in 2021.

Well, I took the plunge with CGLA's Super Special. Kept it at the Hhr $200 price. Booker recommended One because apparently she was the "youngest" that was available at the time I contacted. Of course, I took that with a grain of salt and I was glad to do so. One (or Wanny with BG) is probably in her 40's and if not she's got some miles on her body. Her face was not terrible and I'd say she was probably a cutie 10-15 years ago, but obviously father time couldn't be beat. She has a petite body with natural tits, but overall slightly saggy. It was bearable and definitely not to the extent of some of the older older ladies I've seen at c-orgs in the past. She has a tramp stamp, which I didn't mind. However, I was definitely bothered by her MASSIVE Bush. It was like the amazon jungle down there. I thought it was a tattoo first and had to do a double take. I was ready to go in bb but after seeing the wilderness I opted to go covered. I just couldn't let my poor junior get lost in there without protection. That said, she's a really nice lady. Minimal English but tries to please. Pretty standard routine, but gets pretty sloppy with BBBJ with a lot of lube / HJ / Russian. I probably enjoyed that more than the actual fucking part. Her box is somewhat loose and I didn't particularly get too excited with her body. She'll play the part and get responsive, which was enough for me to get to completion. All said and done though, I was pretty okay with seeing her for the special price. I knew there had to be a catch for the cheaper price and I think One's service could justify it with her service despite the below average look. I 100% would not repeat because of the rainforest she had below her waist, but I'm not upset at all with the experience overall.

[QUOTE=GoodBoy88;6055520]That's bullshit because George didn't say Remi was ugly, he said she's hot, but not on par with the model in that pic, which is true. I agree with George, I think you'd have to be smoking crack to say Remi's physique is on par with the model in that picture. What George said is exactly on point, her legs are proportionally shorter and not as firmly shaped. Her arms are in fact doughy and straight, not having the curvature of that model in the picture. And yea Remi has a small pouch on her belly whereas that model is flat as a drum. Remi straight up told me herself she felt out of shape and said she never works out or anything, and yea she exactly looks like a girl who never works out. The model on that picture clearly does. Remi has big tits on a fairly flat but curvy body. I don't have rose colored glasses, but clearly some of the members here do when it comes to her. She's not a tight spinner and she's not "cream of the current crop" IMO. If you ask me Dana has her bear easily in all areas except she doesn't have Remi's huge tits. Mini also has superior looks and service IMO. We won't even talk about Remi's face, because we all already know it's not the best.[/QUOTE]I don't know when you saw Remi last but I saw her last week and she did not have a paunch in any shape or form. It's true, she doesn't workout. However her natural contours look like the girl in the pic to me. She wears flat thong shoes not 4 inch platform shoes like the model in the pic (those will certainly lengthen the leg line).

I have seen Mini and Dana as well. I agree they both have their charms, but they are different and have different personalities, shapes and bodies to boot. Too each their own. Opinions vary.

Kgirls think they are sneaky by quietly increasing non-upcharge. Suddenly if you notice 340 is the new price for a good amount of the girls of late, 360 coming next. Sure it’s only 20, but we’re going to keep saying that each time, it’s only 20 gets old. It's time mongers stand and push it down. They're going to other markets and charging less. Stacy was just in NorCal at 280 using her old name Scarlet at Kgalaxy. Suji and Jina came from 260 hr at Yuffie's orgs. Proof they will take less. It is getting a little out of control again.

For those wondering, listing the 320 and under left.
Jenny Nana Asuka Cici at Palace 300
One and Sun at CGLA 300
Mini Yara Remi at KGLA 320
Dana Viki Tiana at SFK 320
Jiyoung Yunhee Jinah Bambi at CGLA 320
Nicole in OC at SAG 320

[QUOTE=GoldDust58;6056234]Kgirls think they are sneaky by quietly increasing non-upcharge. Suddenly if you notice 340 is the new price for a good amount of the girls of late, 360 coming next. It's time mongers stand and push it down. They're going to other markets and charging less. Stacy was just in NorCal at 280 using her old name Scarlet at Kgalaxy. Suji and Jina came from 260 hr at Yuffie's orgs. Proof they will take less. It is getting a little out of control again.[/QUOTE]I get where you're coming from. The 340 is for the all inclusive girls. It's hard for me to find what I like in that group, so I usually stick to the "mainstream" girls you'll see on CG. I'm making my "mainstream" stand at the 300/400 (standard / BBFS) price point. Just looking at CG site, there are a few trying to sneak past to 320/420: Noah / Pink, Jamie, Sia, Jazmin, Jessie, Bada, Subin, Solar, Mina, Scarlet, Chu, Rose3, Moa, DoDo, Nabi, and Soy. I mean c'Mon. I'm going to pay old potato body Nabi 420 when HYA Elena will outperform her at 400? I like Pink / Noah, but I've got super cute Shani who will do the job just as well and take 20 less. Sadly, this also cuts out some of my favorites like Sakura. I saw her a couple of times at the higher rate before I decided to grow a spine and set my limit. Too bad, since there's no real replacement for her. I've already cut back, and I suspect the price hikes will continue to save me money. Every girl I see in LA complains that it's slow. Gee. I wonder why?

[QUOTE=Kaamper;6056306]I get where you're coming from. The 340 is for the all inclusive girls. It's hard for me to find what I like in that group, so I usually stick to the "mainstream" girls you'll see on CG. I'm making my "mainstream" stand at the 300/400 (standard / BBFS) price point. Just looking at CG site, there are a few trying to sneak past to 320/420: Noah / Pink, Jamie, Sia, Jazmin, Jessie, Bada, Subin, Solar, Mina, Scarlet, Chu, Rose3, Moa, DoDo, Nabi, and Soy. I mean c'Mon. I'm going to pay old potato body Nabi 420 when HYA Elena will outperform her at 400? I like Pink / Noah, but I've got super cute Shani who will do the job just as well and take 20 less. Sadly, this also cuts out some of my favorites like Sakura. I saw her a couple of times at the higher rate before I decided to grow a spine and set my limit. Too bad, since there's no real replacement for her. I've already cut back, and I suspect the price hikes will continue to save me money. Every girl I see in LA complains that it's slow. Gee. I wonder why?[/QUOTE]Yea I get it. Most of us OGs or NorCal origin mongers are not thrilled with paying the prices that LA has started to throw out. A good deal of the girls you mentioned all charged less before. Jamie as HD Jamie and Ellena as Lovelyangels / sweetangels Tia were much much less. In supermarket comparison, I'll lay the extra 2 dollar inflation for a gallon of milk but I won't pay when they start charging for more than milk. Just grab a gallon of water, keeps you hydrated. I'll pay for a flight to NorCal and see the same girls when they tour at that rate. Set your limit is a good approach and I commend you for helping the cause.

This goes into another discussion. I know there are complaints on why there aren't reviews for many of these girls. It's because the OG mongers are going as much or some have just flat out retired. Sour taste in your mouth where the same girl you used to see is 300/320 then says honey it's 420 now. GTFO. I will say this, they won't always upcharge you but I will not mention who. This for you all to find out as YMMV. The bookers don't know but the girls just want business and aren't pocketing all their increases as much they have set for the dummies to pay. To each his own I agree. BTW, if you want to know where some of the past good girls in LA have run off too just take a look around at other cities. They're not gone, they just taking pay cuts to be packed full everyday. Other markets don't have to be as jealous anymore.

[QUOTE=Majieroero;6055872]Well, I took the plunge with CGLA's Super Special. Kept it at the Hhr $200 price. Booker recommended One because apparently she was the "youngest" that was available at the time I contacted. Of course, I took that with a grain of salt and I was glad to do so. One (or Wanny with BG) is probably in her 40's and if not she's got some miles on her body. Her face was not terrible and I'd say she was probably a cutie 10-15 years ago, but obviously father time couldn't be beat. She has a petite body with natural tits, but overall slightly saggy. It was bearable and definitely not to the extent of some of the older older ladies I've seen at c-orgs in the past. She has a tramp stamp, which I didn't mind. However, I was definitely bothered by her MASSIVE Bush. It was like the amazon jungle down there. I thought it was a tattoo first and had to do a double take. I was ready to go in bb but after seeing the wilderness I opted to go covered. I just couldn't let my poor junior get lost in there without protection. That said, she's a really nice lady. Minimal English but tries to please. Pretty standard routine, but gets pretty sloppy with BBBJ with a lot of lube / HJ / Russian. I probably enjoyed that more than the actual fucking part. Her box is somewhat loose and I didn't particularly get too excited with her body. She'll play the part and get responsive, which was enough for me to get to completion. All said and done though, I was pretty okay with seeing her for the special price. I knew there had to be a catch for the cheaper price and I think One's service could justify it with her service despite the below average look. I 100% would not repeat because of the rainforest she had below her waist, but I'm not upset at all with the experience overall.[/QUOTE]Been looking for a K-girl with a Bush! So now I know who to book! Thanks for the info!

Kiki also has a Bush. Not a wild overgrown wild jungle but nevertheless she does have a Bush if that's your thing.

[QUOTE=MisterChango;6056474]Been looking for a K-girl with a Bush! So now I know who to book! Thanks for the info![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kaamper;6056306]Every girl I see in LA complains that it's slow. Gee. I wonder why?[/QUOTE]Also there are just too many girls now and they all use fake pics or are rebrands. Luckily the CG booker is nice enough to let me walk out without getting banned (yet).

[QUOTE=MrGeorge;6053957]Want to see real pics? Here ya go:

[URL]https://goodgirls.catalog.to/s/goodgirls/goodgirls/cmh[/URL]

I stand by my assertion.[/QUOTE]This post is very ironic. I don't see real photos here. I see a bunch of girls sitting in odd positions, contorting, purposefully standing side ways, lying down and sucking in. The only difference between these photos and an agency's model photos seem to be the soft lighting of the latter, which by the way is orthogonal to a photoshopper's ability to use the expand or contract tool to accentuate certain parts, or the clone, blur, or smudge tools to smooth out blemishes.

I agree with BastardChorum. If she's standing in front of the camera and recognizable, then it's real. If that's not real, then you can't count on anything to be real. It's easy for us, after years of experience, to be able to tell what parts of a photo have been exaggerated or stretched, based on past expectations. The photos and the relative stats on the booker's pages, as well as past reliability of the booker, give a general impression of what to expect.

Fuzzy logic requires human intelligence. Solipsism is an easy way out. If none of this is useful for you, then feel free to ignore it. But personally speaking, it's all useful to me. I never expect the actual thing to be exactly the same as marketing, whether it's a kgirl, some girl in a Motel 6, or a TV. Yet marketing is never devoid of information. If a reviewer or ad of something consistently exaggerates an aspect, then I know from experience where they stand relative to my own judgment and go from there. But I never expect anyone to take photos intentionally revealing all their flaws, unless it's for insurance or legal purposes.

[QUOTE=GoldDust58;6056234]Kgirls think they are sneaky by quietly increasing non-upcharge. Suddenly if you notice 340 is the new price for a good amount of the girls of late, 360 coming next. Sure its only 20, but were going to keep saying that each time, its only 20 gets old. It's time mongers stand and push it down. They're going to other markets and charging less. Stacy was just in NorCal at 280 using her old name Scarlet at Kgalaxy. Suji and Jina came from 260 hr at Yuffie's orgs. Proof they will take less. It is getting a little out of control again.

For those wondering, listing the 320 and under left.
Jenny Nana Asuka Cici at Palace 300
One and Sun at CGLA 300
Mini Yara Remi at KGLA 320
Dana Viki Tiana at SFK 320
Jiyoung Yunhee Jinah Bambi at CGLA 320
Nicole in OC at SAG 320[/QUOTE]I recently found out its also bookers who are driving up these prices for 300 or 320 kgirls. Bookers have their own little group chats and started demanding more cuts for each appointment. I won't go into too detail but ya. It's not even the girls or the owner.

[QUOTE=GoldDust58;6056429]Sour taste in your mouth where the same girl you used to see is 300/320 then says honey it's 420 now. GTFO. I will say this, they won't always upcharge you but I will not mention who. This for you all to find out as YMMV. The bookers don't know but the girls just want business and aren't pocketing all their increases as much they have set for the dummies to pay. To each his own I agree.[/QUOTE]I find the perennial complaining of rates a bit silly. I get it. Inflation sucks. But no one on this site is going to convince enough mongers to stay home. That's why compulsory worker's unions exist, a thing I bet most of you don't like. When market rates increase, people who think it's still worth it pay, and people who don't don't. Capitalism is that simple.

[QUOTE=GoldDust58;6056429]BTW, if you want to know where some of the past good girls in LA have run off too just take a look around at other cities. They're not gone, they just taking pay cuts to be packed full everyday. Other markets don't have to be as jealous anymore.[/QUOTE]That's good for the girls since they're going to get business regardless of how much rent costs the bookers where they're staying. However, for mongers we don't have the option to just up and leave. Aside from SJ / East Bay, no other place in the country has the selection in LA anyways. So if you move to Virginia and get a cheaper rate, it comes at the cost of seeing the same 2 kgirls every season.

On the other hand, the girls had the option to remain with M and SFK bookers, but more and more are choosing upsell agencies like CGLA. Which sort of makes me doubt your theory that girls just want business. Yes, maybe some of them don't mind volume for optimal cash flow, but it seems just as many if not more would sacrifice business for an easier day. Either that, or they're not losing an appreciable amount of business even with the upsell.

Frankly, about 15 years ago bb was a privilege afforded to regulars, so the price actually went down massively in the last decade for what we're getting.