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[QUOTE=AssmanJr;2459081]Our posts. They just Google escorts AMP go to back page other ad sited and know who to check out.[/QUOTE]Also, I believe that all of our reports are o ly hearsay and inadmissable in court because they're an ony. Ous and they'd have to get one of us to testify under oath stating "yes, I wrote that and its true. " Good luck with that one.
What we probably should do during the LE check for a new girl or new AMP is to say the following when you enter the room.
"I am okay if you take your clothes off and you can touch me anywhere you want. ".
Any monger who says that takes sexual assault in the fourth degree off the table for the girl.
[QUOTE=Goser;2459591]What we probably should do during the LE check for a new girl or new AMP is to say the following when you enter the room.
"I am okay if you take your clothes off and you can touch me anywhere you want. ".
Any monger who says that takes sexual assault in the fourth degree off the table for the girl.[/QUOTE]I think they'd be more comfortable if we start first, but it wouldn't hurt to say something like that to ease their minds.
[QUOTE=Goser;2459591]What we probably should do during the LE check for a new girl or new AMP is to say the following when you enter the room.
"I am okay if you take your clothes off and you can touch me anywhere you want. ".
Any monger who says that takes sexual assault in the fourth degree off the table for the girl.[/QUOTE]This is what I imagine one distinguished politician saying during LE check.
Big Island Mayor: "Fuck me you sweet honey before the county takes away my pCard. And no worry about the Prosecutor because he get his hand in my cookie jar. ".
LOLOLOLOL.
Anyone know if Golden Spa is still open. Haven't seen an ad in BP or a report on this forum in several weeks. Just wondering. Last time I was there, saw Penny and Jackie there.
Has the dust settled? What a crazy week, hope all the madness is done.
[QUOTE=Kalani69;2460290]Anyone know if Golden Spa is still open. Haven't seen an ad in BP or a report on this forum in several weeks. Just wondering. Last time I was there, saw Penny and Jackie there.[/QUOTE]Jackie is at Nirvana now. Which Penny is this? Had Penny at Kison. Same girl?
Well got denied by two mamas at AY tonight although I been to both establishments before one many times. Guess the short hair and being on the younger side doesn't help they must be spooked.
[QUOTE=AssmanJr;2459085]More of advertising site with reviews?
Not forum with members discussing.[/QUOTE]You are banned but I will answer for the benefit of others. Myredbook was a combination of advertisement, provider reviews, and forums. Like backpage, TER and USASG rolled into one site.
[QUOTE=Goser;2459530]I just heard Peter Carlisle on the Mike Buck show describing the current sting operations going on with AMPs. This is clearly a targeted activity and is meant to be a new way to combat AMPs without using the traditional methods of stinging Johns and / or Providers by having them discussing sexual acts for money and then busting them. In Hawaii, most AMPs do not collect money in advance of having sex with the mongers. Therefore, it is very difficult to bust the girls for prostitution. However, this new strategy is targeting sexual contact or exposure without consent as the 4th degree sexual assault which is a misdemeanor with fine up to $1000 and jail time up to one year. The assault is defined as either subjecting the person to either humiliation or threat. Humiliation includes concern of a person's reputation if they get caught in a massage parlour with a naked girl when they didn't agree to it.
This is very easy to defeat. The only thing that mongers need to do is to say that it is okay for the provider to get naked or to touch them. It can also be defeated if the girl asks permission to get naked and touch the monger. LE is believing that this won't happen and then they can continue the busts. You can expect girls to ask if it is okay to get naked and / or to touch the guy. This will be pretty nice.
What are the rules of engagement?
1) Never talk about a fee for any type of sexual service before, during or after your session.
2) Always ask if it is okay to get naked or touch the girl or monger before doing it.
3) Always pay the girl after the session is done.
A version of these rules should be put on a sign in every room and have the guy read the sign and consent to it before having them lie down on the massage table.[/QUOTE]The popo too. Have your clients sign a consent form, maybe ask for ID too. If client says no, show him the door. We too can use the law to defeat HPD. In fact it would be a good idea to consult a defense attorney to establish new standard operating procedures to protect your establishments from future police harassment.
It's just good business sense.
[QUOTE=Spartacus77;2460788]The popo too. Have your clients sign a consent form, maybe ask for ID too. If client says no, show him the door. We too can use the law to defeat HPD. In fact it would be a good idea to consult a defense attorney to establish new standard operating procedures to protect your establishments from future police harassment.
It's just good business sense.[/QUOTE]How many mongers would show their I'd to a provider. Everything else I would understand, but the I'd idea is a bit of a stretch.
[QUOTE=Nas123;2460401]Well got denied by two mamas at AY tonight although I been to both establishments before one many times. Guess the short hair and being on the younger side doesn't help they must be spooked.[/QUOTE]Did you see the video on the news of the undercover officer at Orchid? Not exactly young, clean cut, and lean. I once had DEA talk to me for info, you would never guess by their look, one looked like a scruffy computer nerd, and the other was a plain asian girl. I guess the Mamas rely on their smell.
[QUOTE=Raiden;2460345]Jackie is at Nirvana now. Which Penny is this? Had Penny at Kison. Same girl?[/QUOTE]I think Penny used to be Tina at Golden, formerly Sheila at CHM. Older, full bodied MILF.
[QUOTE=MidgetMac87;2460814]How many mongers would show their I'd to a provider. Everything else I would understand, but the I'd idea is a bit of a stretch.[/QUOTE]I've done it in the past when seeing an escort as part of a date check process. Cops are changing their MO, providers will have to change their process too. Unless providers are sure who we are, they should take the utmost protection and assume we are cops. The AMPs should screen customers so as not to put their employees at risk. This applies only to new customers. Repeaters are known entities.
That's the new monger world we live in. HPD will stop the raids when they are no longer successful. A better screening process will help.
[QUOTE=MidgetMac87;2460814]How many mongers would show their I'd to a provider. Everything else I would understand, but the I'd idea is a bit of a stretch.[/QUOTE]I do Chief MM87. But only at an established licensed MT where I am trying to get a HE. I even give the girls my business card. I don't have much to hide and if anybody asks, I am there to just get a legit massage. It has been a while since I have visited an AMP so I am not sure if I would provide my I'd at an AMP. Maybe if in the room and the provider asks, I would probably show her my work I'd badge to place her at ease.