Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=FloatMyBoat; 1555211]Dave, you have a point, however, if you only tell them you got a massage who are they to say otherwise. If they show up at your home, they better have a reason, and if they talk to our wifes, believe a lot of attorney's will enjoy taking your case.

On Rico, they can take your stuff and then you have to prove it was not gotten thru illegal gains. They tried this on my brother because he was stopped speeding

If you are arrested for dope, prostitution or other illegal enterprise, good luck on getting your money back even if you are not convicted.

The feds are also after interstate trafficing and just busted a large Korean ring in NY to across the US. I know of two shops, one in Phx and one Mesa that they probably are looking at because they have new girls about ever 30-45 days. They run a circuit and have FBI's eye.

The boatman[/QUOTE]The worst case showing up at homes in front of wife was actually some news media in the Desert Diva's case with thousands of names from credit cards etc that was made public (even I had a copy). TV crews showed up at homes asking why husband listed as a prostitution ring client.

From what I have heard if LE watches an incall (after doing the 2 call thing but then not showing up or sending in a plant) they will catch a guy leaving, show him the gals ad, reviews etc and challenge him if it was just a massage. If you lie you may be charged also, but hard to prove but guys often give in.

On RICO thought had to be a felony not a speeding ticket since its part of criminal enterprise AZ statute as I recall. On the other hand some of the gals who lost to RICO were simple prostitution cases and worked alone so confused of when can use RICO.

On the Asian "rings". I remember 10+ years ago the Asian massage places use to rotate women into and out of Phoenix from LA area. Am amazed they are still doing it and if caught seems to be an endless supply. I'm not an Asian fan and tend to avoid.

From years of others reports, I don't think the Asians are forced in any way but willing to take their take of whatever fee is shared. Sort of like the Russian Mafia in Toronto, some years ago, some great gals at popular agencies (all legal in Canada) very willing to work the long hours and pay off their handlers since once their "stint" was done and maybe $20k worked off, they were free to disappear in Canada and escape their home country problems and send money home to family.

Once a bad Russian guy kidnapped some agency gals, locked them in a home and prostituted them. At one point gals locked themselves in some room, called police that a assault was in progress so police would break in. The police arrested the bad guy and let the gals go. Since no big legal issues, the gals felt comfortable calling police to be rescued.

[QUOTE=DavePHX; 1556737]The worst case showing up at homes in front of wife was actually some news media in the Desert Diva's case with thousands of names from credit cards etc that was made public (even I had a copy). TV crews showed up at homes asking why husband listed as a prostitution ring client.

From what I have heard if LE watches an incall (after doing the 2 call thing but then not showing up or sending in a plant) they will catch a guy leaving, show him the gals ad, reviews etc and challenge him if it was just a massage. If you lie you may be charged also, but hard to prove but guys often give in.

On RICO thought had to be a felony not a speeding ticket since its part of criminal enterprise AZ statute as I recall. On the other hand some of the gals who lost to RICO were simple prostitution cases and worked alone so confused of when can use RICO.

On the Asian "rings". I remember 10+ years ago the Asian massage places use to rotate women into and out of Phoenix from LA area. Am amazed they are still doing it and if caught seems to be an endless supply. I'm not an Asian fan and tend to avoid.

From years of others reports, I don't think the Asians are forced in any way but willing to take their take of whatever fee is shared. Sort of like the Russian Mafia in Toronto, some years ago, some great gals at popular agencies (all legal in Canada) very willing to work the long hours and pay off their handlers since once their "stint" was done and maybe $20k.

You are correct on Rico, however in my brothers case he was arrested for criminal speed, which gave LE the opportunity to search him due to the arrest. On any arrest or if they have probable cause to search you, and the find 30K they can seize it under Rico. This is also the way banks report large deposits to the feds and they then want to know how you made these large cash deposits. This is how they caught Lucy Liu and Dewey in Phoenix a few years ago.

I have a lot of inside information on LE that I cannot discuss, but trust me you don't have to tell them your life story. They just can't show up at your door and talk to your wife. Well maybe Sheriff Joe is that stupid and will pay the lawsuit, but on the whole, if you say I went for a massage and that was it. They cannot put you on a lie detector.

I know for a fact that Phoenix PD's vice squad has a madarin speaking UC and he will hear everything the girls say.

He is as american looking as they come, but was raised in China for many years.

Poor girls don't stand a chance.

Be safe out there my friends.

Driving in to work this morning I was coming up Dobson. When I got to Baseline, there was a LOT of "activity" at the AMP there. I couldn't count them all but I would guess 8-10 LEO cars and 2 larger van type vehicles. There were about 10 LEO standing outside. I couldn't tell if they were just finishing up or about to go in.

It was 7:10 am

[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/let-me-make-your-day-40/16553805[/url]

She has been discussed here before and has other reviews elsewhere. Decided to give her a try. Massage place is on University off of Country Club in Mesa. She offers HJ for $.2, BBBJ for $.5, or FS for $$. Didn't bother with the massage, so can't report on that, although it is available. Nice body slide, excellent oral skills. Looks a bit older and heavier than her posted pics suggest. Pleasant personality and accommodating, no upsell. Didn't even collect the money until we were all done. She is on my regulars list.

Long time lurker, first post. I've only had two AMP experiences in the east valley. Neither great, pretty mechanical, so I've not sought it out much. I get legit massage on a regular basis at a number of places, including a popular franchise. I recently visited a notoriously legitimate AMP I've gone to numerous times over the last few years when I wanted a walk in massage for a low price. It's been hit and miss as far as quality, but I've never paid too much (.5 hr) so it evens out in the long run. This is an established place near rural and ray. On my recent visit I got a middle aged, slim Chinese girl, very limited english. About a 5 in looks. The massage was great. What I would expect from an experienced franchise LMT. This went on for 20 min, with typical sheet covering. Then she broke out the oil and it got much more intense. The crack got grazed several times, and while the boys were more or less covered, there were many slides up my legs into the sack, clearly not accidental. In the mean time she positions her leg up against my hand hanging over the side so I'm in a position to grab her leg and rub the back of her thigh above her knee.

On the flip, the oil massage moves quickly from the chest the just above the boys and eventually she lightly grazes over them several times, by which time I'm fully erect. This continuted as she moved to my upper thighs. I finally ask if she will massage "there" while grabbing the big boy. She ignores me and keeps up with the massage by always returning to my groin. I ask again, pointing to the tent, and she ignores me, but keeps on brushing into it and the boys. I finally pull the sheet off (which is only barely covering the goodies) and ask "massage here?", and she puts the sheet back over it. A few minutes later she says "one hour" and looks at the clock, and it has in fact been one hour.

She went out and came back with hot towels and wiped me down, not being shy about wiping down the equipment. Then she leaves. I did ask her name and what days she worked. I think she said Sheila, but who knows? I gave a her. 1 tip on top of the. 5 for the hour.

So I don't know what to think. Maybe return, and leave a tip on the table before she comes in? The massage was great and the work up to the finish was incredible, but never culminated in a HE. Anyone had a similar experience?

Long time lurker, first post. I've only had two AMP experiences in the east valley. Neither great, pretty mechanical, so I've not sought it out much. I get legit massage on a regular basis at a number of places, including a popular franchise. I recently visited a notoriously legitimate AMP I've gone to numerous times over the last few years when I wanted a walk in massage for a low price. It's been hit and miss as far as quality, but I've never paid too much (.5 hr) so it evens out in the long run. This is an established place near rural and ray. On my recent visit I got a middle aged, slim Chinese girl, very limited english. About a 5 in looks. The massage was great. What I would expect from an experienced franchise LMT. This went on for 20 min, with typical sheet covering. Then she broke out the oil and it got much more intense. The crack got grazed several times, and while the boys were more or less covered, there were many slides up my legs into the sack, clearly not accidental. In the mean time she positions her leg up against my hand hanging over the side so I'm in a position to grab her leg and rub the back of her thigh above her knee.

On the flip, the oil massage moves quickly from the chest the just above the boys and eventually she lightly grazes over them several times, by which time I'm fully erect. This continued as she moved to my upper thighs. I finally ask if she will massage "there" while grabbing the big boy. She ignores me and keeps up with the massage by always returning to my groin. I ask again, pointing to the tent, and she ignores me, but keeps on brushing into it and the boys. I finally pull the sheet off (which is only barely covering the goodies) and ask "massage here?", and she puts the sheet back over it. A few minutes later she says "one hour" and looks at the clock, and it has in fact been one hour.

She went out and came back with hot towels and wiped me down, not being shy about wiping down the equipment. Then she leaves. I did ask her name and what days she worked. I think she said Sheila, but who knows? I gave a her. 1 tip on top of the. 5 for the hour.

So I don't know what to think. Maybe return, and leave a tip on the table before she comes in? The massage was great and the work up to the finish was incredible, but never culminated in a HE. Anyone had a similar experience?

Great review, you should share the name of this place with the rest of the class.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=AteBall; 1562876]Long time lurker, first post. I've only had two AMP experiences in the east valley. Neither great, pretty mechanical, so I've not sought it out much. I get legit massage on a regular basis at a number of places, including a popular franchise. I recently visited a notoriously legitimate AMP I've gone to numerous times over the last few years when I wanted a walk in massage for a low price. It's been hit and miss as far as quality, but I've never paid too much (.5 hr) so it evens out in the long run. This is an established place near rural and ray. On my recent visit I got a middle aged, slim Chinese girl, very limited english. About a 5 in looks. The massage was great. What I would expect from an experienced franchise LMT. This went on for 20 min, with typical sheet covering. Then she broke out the oil and it got much more intense. The crack got grazed several times, and while the boys were more or less covered, there were many slides up my legs into the sack, clearly not accidental. In the mean time she positions her leg up against my hand hanging over the side so I'm in a position to grab her leg and rub the back of her thigh above her knee.

On the flip, the oil massage moves quickly from the chest the just above the boys and eventually she lightly grazes over them several times, by which time I'm fully erect. This continued as she moved to my upper thighs. I finally ask if she will massage "there" while grabbing the big boy. She ignores me and keeps up with the massage by always returning to my groin. I ask again, pointing to the tent, and she ignores me, but keeps on brushing into it and the boys. I finally pull the sheet off (which is only barely covering the goodies) and ask "massage here?", and she puts the sheet back over it. A few minutes later she says "one hour" and looks at the clock, and it has in fact been one hour.

She went out and came back with hot towels and wiped me down, not being shy about wiping down the equipment. Then she leaves. I did ask her name and what days she worked. I think she said Sheila, but who knows? I gave a her. 1 tip on top of the. 5 for the hour.

So I don't know what to think. Maybe return, and leave a tip on the table before she comes in? The massage was great and the work up to the finish was incredible, but never culminated in a HE. Anyone had a similar experience?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AteBall; 1562876]On the flip, the oil massage moves quickly from the chest the just above the boys and eventually she lightly grazes over them several times, by which time I'm fully erect. This continued as she moved to my upper thighs. I finally ask if she will massage "there" while grabbing the big boy. She ignores me and keeps up with the massage by always returning to my groin. I ask again, pointing to the tent, and she ignores me, but keeps on brushing into it and the boys. I finally pull the sheet off (which is only barely covering the goodies) and ask "massage here?", and she puts the sheet back over it. A few minutes later she says "one hour" and looks at the clock, and it has in fact been one hour.

She went out and came back with hot towels and wiped me down, not being shy about wiping down the equipment. Then she leaves. I did ask her name and what days she worked. I think she said Sheila, but who knows? I gave a her. 1 tip on top of the. 5 for the hour.

So I don't know what to think. Maybe return, and leave a tip on the table before she comes in? The massage was great and the work up to the finish was incredible, but never culminated in a HE. Anyone had a similar experience?[/QUOTE]Good luck. A couple of us have been trying for well over a year with her and nothing but the same teasing. Sometimes a lot less teasing than you describe. I have not heard of anyone having success with her. It is how she keep us coming back. She is pretty busy so her tactic works. Often times you will be at the 45 minute mark and if a customer comes in and asks for her, rush rush rush and your time is up, game over. If anyone does get anything I will be jealous cause I wasted a lot of dinero trying.

The shop on the north side of the street has had some gals come through with success a while ago, but I haven't heard of any recently. The boss at these places is pretty strict on the girls. Wish we could get Lilly back. Sigh.

[QUOTE=MrGuapo; 1563266]Great review, you should share the name of this place with the rest of the class.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Luxury Spa.

Was visiting my favorite gun store today at 51st Ave and Olive. Finished getting what I needed, walked out and looked down the row of stores and low-and-behold, there's a new massage parlor! It's called the Day Spa.

I went in to check it out and was met by Lin. Mid to late 20's, early 30's Viet girl. Cute face, a little pudgy, but BIG bazooms.

She said they had only been open about 3 weeks.

We started talking and she came out through the screen door to the lobby and started giving me a back massage and rubbing the bazooms on my back. Well, that got me going (I'm easy:D) so I paid $40 for 1/2 and the games began.

Standard, not-a-whole-lot-in-it massage (but better than average) and then an early flip. Long story short, I finished with a VERY good HE (that's all the $ I had with me) , and was told that anything else I wanted was on the menu.

I don't know if anyone else has been to it yet or not, but if not then I would recommend taking a trip. It's worth it.

Dirty

I had a my first dream about M10 the other evening and have to say it was probably one of the worst dreams I've had about an AMP. I walked and was greeted by Cindy who was great so I figured since I have heard great things about this place I would go for the full hr. So she starts to take me back and leads me into the kitchen and asks me to wait her 5 minutes while she cleans up the room. I thought this is odd but ok so there I'm just hanging out staring at the rice cooker. So she comes back & takes me to the rm then asks me to get undressed tells me she would be right back to take me to the shower so at least 5 minutes go by and Anna the new girl comes in. She is a k girl from LA had been there 6 days. As far as AZ AMP girls go I would rate her a solid 8. From the minute she walked in she had great talkative fun personality so I'm thinking great this should be fun. She gave me a great table shower lots of playing / teasing. So we get back to the room she starts to give me a very mediocre massage but she was playful the whole time so I was fine with that. On the flip she whispers in my ear what I want and in my dream I envisioned wanting everything. Now the negotiation starts and this is where it all went downhill. In my dream I told her $.20 she comes back with $$ of course I say no way and she goes to $.80 I'm thinking ya right. Long story short she keeps going on and on finally I give her $.30 and she is still going on. She starts trying to dig in my pockets to see if there is more. I don't mind some hangling but she kept going it wasn't until I reached to take it back as I'm telling her that I'm leaving does she finally change her toon. So now that we're past this point I'm already half turned off so she started out touching me and quickly heads South for a CBJ I barely got to feel her boobs. She wouldn't do anything else I asked her to turn around for some 69 and she flat out tells me no. Needless to say she hops on for some CG pretty quickly. After all that I was at least going to make her work. We also did Doggie, Miss, Stand Miss. I know she was planning on me being done pretty quick but I held out just for the heck of it. Once I was done all of the sudden the nice friendly Anna reappears of course she cleaned me up and was all bubbly. Of course then she starts telling me how much she likes me and next time I should bring more. I was just really disappointed I've been laying low this past yr & was hoping for a fun time. I even told both her & Cindy when I walked in that I had seen Soda there at the beginning of the yr. (BS of course) This isn't my 1st rodio and I never try to totally rip off anybody in my dreams but I'm also not going to be a sucker either. This is the 1st time I literally just about woke up in the middle of a dream and walked out. I'll probably give the place another try but I'm going to wait a little but till she is gone. I did see another girl in the hallway that was way better looking. Okay I'm done ranting!

Max.

That sucks. You get a girl like that occasionally, that just pushes the negotiation too far and hard. It is counter productive for both the girl and you, but they don't realize it. I've done the same as you in the past, almost left, but stayed and really didn't enjoy it. I've learned well enough now though, that once it even starts to get into a the "haggling" territory, I walk. I walk and I do it nicely (leave her .20 for massage and say you forgot about obligation elsewhere and have to go), allowing me to return without bad blood if I so choose. Just kills the fun otherwise.

That said, I don't really low-ball girls typically either. I tell them what I want and then pay them a fair, going rate. Is $.20 or $.30 the FS going rate for a place like M10? IMHO. No, even though you might get that price occasionally, you often / typically aren't going to get the girl "all in" the service. Add another. 30 or. 40 and you would have probably walked out smiling.

[QUOTE=FlyTwoHaveFun; 1569259]I had a my first dream about M10 the other evening and have to say it was probably one of the worst dreams I've had about an AMP. I walked and was greeted by Cindy who was great so I figured since I have heard great things about this place I would go for the full hr. So she starts to take me back and leads me into the kitchen and asks me to wait her 5 minutes while she cleans up the room. I thought this is odd but ok so there I'm just hanging out staring at the rice cooker. So she comes back & takes me to the rm then asks me to get undressed tells me she would be right back to take me to the shower so at least 5 minutes go by and Anna the new girl comes in. She is a k girl from LA had been there 6 days. As far as AZ AMP girls go I would rate her a solid 8. From the minute she walked in she had great talkative fun personality so I'm thinking great this should be fun. She gave me a great table shower lots of playing / teasing. So we get back to the room she starts to give me a very mediocre massage but she was playful the whole time so I was fine with that. On the flip she whispers in my ear what I want and in my dream I envisioned wanting everything. Now the negotiation starts and this is where it all went downhill. In my dream I told her $.20 she comes back with $$ of course I say no way and she goes to $.80 I'm thinking ya right. Long story short she keeps going on and on finally I give her $.30 and she is still going on. She starts trying to dig in my pockets to see if there is more. I don't mind some hangling but she kept going it wasn't until I reached to take it back as I'm telling her that I'm leaving does she finally change her toon. So now that we're past this point I'm already half turned off so she started out touching me and quickly heads South for a CBJ I barely got to feel her boobs. She wouldn't do anything else I asked her to turn around for some 69 and she flat out tells me no. Needless to say she hops on for some CG pretty quickly. After all that I was at least going to make her work. We also did Doggie, Miss, Stand Miss. I know she was planning on me being done pretty quick but I held out just for the heck of it. Once I was done all of the sudden the nice friendly Anna reappears of course she cleaned me up and was all bubbly. Of course then she starts telling me how much she likes me and next time I should bring more. I was just really disappointed I've been laying low this past yr & was hoping for a fun time. I even told both her & Cindy when I walked in that I had seen Soda there at the beginning of the yr. (BS of course) This isn't my 1st rodio and I never try to totally rip off anybody in my dreams but I'm also not going to be a sucker either. This is the 1st time I literally just about woke up in the middle of a dream and walked out. I'll probably give the place another try but I'm going to wait a little but till she is gone. I did see another girl in the hallway that was way better looking. Okay I'm done ranting!

Max.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TivoTerry; 1569447]That sucks. You get a girl like that occasionally, that just pushes the negotiation too far and hard. It is counter productive for both the girl and you, but they don't realize it. I've done the same as you in the past, almost left, but stayed and really didn't enjoy it. I've learned well enough now though, that once it even starts to get into a the "haggling" territory, I walk. I walk and I do it nicely (leave her. 20 for massage and say you forgot about obligation elsewhere and have to go) , allowing me to return without bad blood if I so choose. Just kills the fun otherwise.

That said, I don't really low-ball girls typically either. I tell them what I want and then pay them a fair, going rate. Is $.20 or $.30 the FS going rate for a place like M10? IMHO. No, even though you might get that price occasionally, you often / typically aren't going to get the girl "all in" the service. Add another. 30 or. 40 and you would have probably walked out smiling.[/QUOTE]Hi TivoTerry,

I like your suggestion about how you walk out nicely I'll have to keep that in mind. I just never have run into that before in an Asian place. I think this was definitely one of those cases were the negotiation affected the performance. Shoot I'm certainly not expecting a girlfriend but I got a lot more play time during the massage and she definitely wasn't shy about it. You could tell this girl was not fresh off the boat.

I went to M-10 Monday after the reviews I read here were good. The Mamasan at the window told me she had girl, and was trying to hard sell me without letting me see her. I declined as I don't play that game. I know these AMP's rotate the girls out, and so a place that was good for months may not always stay the same.

Hadn't been to this place in a few years, but had decent FS, and one GFE session here before. It's at 27th Ave and Indian School. After making my westside rounds of about 6 establishments and not liking who came to the window, this was my last resort. My favorite Sa-sa at Anfu has gone to New York, and the "new recruit" at the window wasn't to my liking.

Anyway, a decent looking Latina girl, maybe in her middle 30's came to the door. She was dressed somewhat sexy so I said what the hell. I like a sexy woman in heels, and I many times find Latina masseuses more open minded sexually, and the Asian ones more hit and miss.

I gave her the 40 in the room and she gave a decent massage. At the flip she rubbed me down well, and upon a few brushes in the midsection, moved her hands up and down and asked if I wanted that. I want full service when I get a massage, and know many places with girls I like want 200, but some will take 140, and I was hoping she was a 140 girl. She said she had no condoms. I told her I would go get some, and she said she charged 130. I was cool with that, got condoms and came back.

She gave CBJ. 69, doggy and finished mish. Was a decent session. She says she works the end of the week.