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[QUOTE=DelToro;4925237]We met at a coffee stand near her place, we proceed to get to her place, we kissed I played with her tits, she ask for the arrangement I was, sure.

She put the money away.

I undressed, she asked for condoms, I had some she said she is allergic to latex, we need to go get condoms. I dress up, we go to the local store, at the entrance she told me, "I am not allowed in there, you get them, I wait here".

I then told her, "I do not like this, lets go back to your place and give me back my money" We went back she tried to close the door on me (its a tiny little house in an alley) I did not allow her, I was just give me my money and I am out, she said, get out I want to go to the the bathroom and then I will come out and give you your money, I said fuck no, I said again just give me my money and I am out, she then went pass me and walk into the Mechanic Workshop across the alley to ask for help from her neighbors, I said alright and let her back into her place, she locked the door and I left.

I am still considering sending a couple of seedy individuals to rough her and her boyfriend up and collect my money (I saw evidence of a male occupant in the house). Is not the amount of money is the principle.

Her place reeked of 420.

WK if you wish, I am a straight shooter here and I am not going to lie.[/QUOTE]No, I'm not White Knighting, just wanted to know what was up. Like I said, I blocked her, but she never seemed to interested in money (at least in my case). I just want to know if I did the right thing. I don't know if she was playing the long game with me or what, she seemed straight to me, but I've been fucked over before. Her brother owns the property that she lives on and has guns so be careful.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;4925244]No, I'm not White Knighting, just wanted to know what was up. Like I said, I blocked her, but she never seemed to interested in money (at least in my case). I just want to know if I did the right thing. I don't know if she was playing the long game with me or what, she seemed straight to me, but I've been fucked over before. Her brother owns the property that she lives on and has guns so be careful.[/QUOTE]She is bad news.

Most likely I would just let it go.

I am pissed right now as it happened this morning but is not worth it.

Is just the first time that I have been robbed out of the like 4 times in my 15+ years of being in the hobby, (providers and SBs) that I actually have the chance to retaliate as I know where she lives but I would just take it as a one more lesson and let it go.

[QUOTE=DelToro;4925237]We met at a coffee stand near her place, we proceed to get to her place, we kissed I played with her tits, she ask for the arrangement I was, sure.

She put the money away.

I undressed, she asked for condoms, I had some she said she is allergic to latex, we need to go get condoms. I dress up, we go to the local store, at the entrance she told me, "I am not allowed in there, you get them, I wait here".

I then told her, "I do not like this, lets go back to your place and give me back my money" We went back she tried to close the door on me (its a tiny little house in an alley) I did not allow her, I was just give me my money and I am out, she said, get out I want to go to the the bathroom and then I will come out and give you your money, I said fuck no, I said again just give me my money and I am out, she then went pass me and walk towards the Mechanic Workshop across the alley to ask for help from her neighbors, I said alright and let her back into her place, she locked the door and I left.

I am still considering sending a couple of seedy individuals to rough her and her boyfriend up and collect my money (I saw evidence of a male occupant in the house). Is not the amount of money is the principle.

Her place reeked of 420.

WK if you wish, I am a straight shooter here and I have no reason to lie[/QUOTE]Quiet a meetup. Sorry to hear that DT. Sounds like a terrible time. Women who pull this shit, get away with it for a while, then they meet that one guy who does not just walk away and teaches her a lesson she will not soon forget.

That explains why she went silent via text messages when I asked about no condom. She wouldn't have a pretext to take me out of her place and rob me LOL.

[QUOTE=DelToro;4925237]We met at a coffee stand near her place, we proceed to get to her place, we kissed I played with her tits, she ask for the arrangement I was, sure.

She put the money away.

I undressed, she asked for condoms, I had some she said she is allergic to latex, we need to go get condoms. I dress up, we go to the local store, at the entrance she told me, "I am not allowed in there, you get them, I wait here".

I then told her, "I do not like this, lets go back to your place and give me back my money" We went back she tried to close the door on me (its a tiny little house in an alley) I did not allow her, I was just give me my money and I am out, she said, get out I want to go to the the bathroom and then I will come out and give you your money, I said fuck no, I said again just give me my money and I am out, she then went pass me and walk towards the Mechanic Workshop across the alley to ask for help from her neighbors, I said alright and let her back into her place, she locked the door and I left.

I am still considering sending a couple of seedy individuals to rough her and her boyfriend up and collect my money (I saw evidence of a male occupant in the house). Is not the amount of money is the principle.

Her place reeked of 420.

WK if you wish, I am a straight shooter here and I have no reason to lie[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;4925354]Quiet a meetup. Sorry to hear that DT. Sounds like a terrible time. Women who pull this shit, get away with it for a while, then they meet that one guy who does not just walk away and teaches her a lesson she will not soon forget.[/QUOTE]She repeatedly told me she prefers men over 50. It's also in her ad. I wonder if it's because men over 50 probably won't retaliate if robbed. I already ghosted and blocked her, but saved her number just in case I changed my mind. I'll just delete her. For the record, she was more than happy with $300. Hopefully you didn't lose more.

[QUOTE=DelToro;4925057]Well my second SA rob in three years.

I was at her place and step out to call the neighbors. I just left, not worth it.

There was some hints that she was a pro (con) from our texting but I chose to ignore them.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/68cf3401-f1bc-41fc-96dc-a885a9b02e3a[/URL][/QUOTE]If I read this last part on her posting, " If you are looking to pay just for sex; I. E a prostitute or hooker don't even send me a message. "; I would have steered clear of her.

[QUOTE=EazyDuzit2;4926301]If I read this last part on her posting, " If you are looking to pay just for sex; I. E a prostitute or hooker don't even send me a message. "; I would have steered clear of her.[/QUOTE]Nearly all of the girls on SA and other sites don't think of themselves as ****** and would be greatly offended being characterized as such. Even though they are opening their legs or mouths for your money.

Basically it is just a harmless game that you have to play along with.

Lately I have had a tough time with arrangement girls, and it is largely my own fault. I strongly prefer to screen them pretty thoroughly and have a meet-and-greet before we get down to the real deal. So I'd usually meet them at a Starbuck's or a fairly nice restaurant (better than Red Robin or Applebee's but not so fancy as Canlis) and just chat with them. In the worst case I am out $40 or so for sharing a meal with a girl who is at least moderately attractive. However with the covid this whole approach kinda goes out the window. However, that screening is the reason I've been sugar dating for almost fifteen years and have had relatively few serious disasters.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;4925793]For the record, she was more than happy with $300. Hopefully you didn't lose more.[/QUOTE]Yeah I lost less than that.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;4926356] I strongly prefer to screen them pretty thoroughly and have a meet-and-greet before we get down to the real deal. So I'd usually meet them at a Starbuck's or a fairly nice restaurant (better than Red Robin or Applebee's but not so fancy as Canlis) and just chat with them. In the worst case I am out $40 or so for sharing a meal with a girl who is at least moderately attractive. [/QUOTE]I usually do a M&G followed by fucking. Just doing the M&G to do the fucking some other day is just not optimal for me, as my time is very valuable, with the money I will loose with a pure M&G is just not worth it just for a tighter screening. I rather have a bad experience every couple of years than taking twice as much time to get to fuck a new SB. As I do fuck 2-3 new SBs every month.

[QUOTE=DelToro;4926557]Yeah I lost less than that.

[/QUOTE]I need to come down on my offers. $300 for a PPM is what I'm comfortable with, but it seems like everyone else I know is paying less.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;4926803]I need to come down on my offers. $300 for a PPM is what I'm comfortable with, but it seems like everyone else I know is paying less.[/QUOTE]300 is my absolute max, but they need to host, be quite attractive and offer what I like.

[QUOTE=DelToro;4926850]300 is my absolute max, but they need to host, be quite attractive and offer what I like.[/QUOTE]Same. Seems like a lot of guys treat SBs differently but I learned a hard lesson a long time ago about letting providers into your house. Won't be doing that again.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;4926916]Same. Seems like a lot of guys treat SBs differently but I learned a hard lesson a long time ago about letting providers into your house. Won't be doing that again.[/QUOTE]On an incall, if the provider / SB tries something funky you are in disadvantage because you are on an unfamiliar setting, but if things go wrong if you do not fight for the money, you would be able to leave and that is the end of the story. If something funky happens at your place, as she (they) know where you live things could go wrong for a long time.

[QUOTE=DelToro;4927019]On an incall, if the provider / SB tries something funky you are in disadvantage because you are on an unfamiliar setting, but if things go wrong if you do not fight for the money, you would be able to leave and that is the end of the story. If something funky happens at your place, as she (they) know where you live things could go wrong for a long time.[/QUOTE]I'm now very, very careful about what I let them know. I had one just waltz into my business once, she just wanted to see what I did and check out the office. That was the last time I saw her. Another somehow found me on Facebook and wanted to be my Facebook friend. Nope. So, I'm a little less open about myself than I used to be.

As far as bringing hookers home. Nope, they just scope out your place so their friends can rob it later. The few times I did it was like many years ago, I used to drive them around in circles and through random neighborhoods so they couldn't find where we were. Now there is GPS on the phone, they simply push a button and it tells them where they are. If they really had bad intentions they can have other phones track them and then casually leave the door unlocked and have someone rob you while you're in the act.

Anybody know a way around their checks? I was suspended a few months ago just tried signing up again with another CC and auto suspended. They didn't charge my card just automatically suspended. I'm going to guess its tied to my name.

[QUOTE=Spacehog;4927247]Anybody know a way around their checks? I was suspended a few months ago just tried signing up again with another CC and auto suspended. They didn't charge my card just automatically suspended. I'm going to guess its tied to my name.[/QUOTE]International gift card, VPN.