The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

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[QUOTE=Raltime;5816347]Any comments on her.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/1cabaa38-fe7a-4649-8e5a-9e8b4fc11ad8[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Raltime;5816347]Any comments on her.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/1cabaa38-fe7a-4649-8e5a-9e8b4fc11ad8[/URL][/QUOTE]There's been recent comment on her. I think I commented as well. Do a search.

*To clarify, I get fully what the site is about (SA). I get the expectations, rules, and unsaid limitations.

With that out of the way. I have met quite a few girls / ladies off of the site. Being moderately successful, along with being in good shape while in my mid 30's, at least ok looking, and being overall adequate at personability and fun fun. I must say I am 9 out of 10 times disappointed in the holistic quality of SBs. They tend to fall into 3 categories and the 4th being titled "Unicorn".

I am going to list my experiences and simply pose the question to everyone:

Is there truly enough upside to continue this venture? And, has anyone else experienced the same experiences and outcomes?

1. Angular Queen.

On so many of the meetings I have had, many of the girls had significantly more weight than expected, or did not match their pictural embodiment.

I am a visual man, as I am sure many of you are. But, this comes up so often, I am starting to wonder the amount of filtration and perfect angles are being used. Yes, I try to look my best in my pictures. Yes, I chose the angles that cast me in the right light. But, I also make sure what is in the pictures is an accurate representation of myself. Yet, while casting fog and trying to do a poorly executed magic trick these ladies expect to be benefited as much as those within the top tier. I feel with both misrepresentation and most likely knowing their place, they should know top beneficial arrangements should be kept in perspective.

2. Hollow Beauty.

When I am lucky enough to be graced with the presence of the same beauty digitally was presented to me.

I have been very pleased to meet with a girl that represented herself accurately, even displays grace. If even for a moment. But, once sitting down it is fully business. This (at least for me) is very off putting. As someone that daily dances within the business world and contractual deals. The less business you discuss, the more lucrative the contract. With that mentioned, I get you are attractive. I get you are used to holding all the cards. But, please learn to play poker, or be willing to learn. Maybe I am old fashioned, but aren't these arrangements meant to be beneficial in more than just money. But, even within the cylinder of economics, stock goes up and down. And, once over lunch or dinner conversation ensues, I find myself falling asleep. I think for many men, these are the headless horsemen from Sleepy Hollow, and should be held to standards, regardless of looks.

3. Almost Cinderella.

OK, so she has looks, she has the gift of gab, and she knows how to dance with you in the desired dealings.

But, when it comes times to deliver or naturally move to the agreed / mutually eluded to next steps. All of a sudden a loop hole or a thing magically appears. Though this thing was unforeseen, I am still held to the foreseen expectation. If any pushback is to arise, a pout along with an excuse manifests. Now, the alternative to this is, the first or even a few meetings went well. Then, like a bear trap is activated, more needs are wanted, expectations change, or simply. Demands are expected to be happily acquiesced. Hey! I got married, if this is what I wanted, I would not turn to this location or "hobby."

4. The Unicorn.

She is what I am attracted to. She is what I expect. There is nothing more, nothing less, no one's life is altered or stressed for the worse.

Thanks if read the whole thing!

[QUOTE=DionysusVice;5819234]*To clarify, I get fully what the site is about (SA). I get the expectations, rules, and unsaid limitations.

With that out of the way. I have met quite a few girls / ladies off of the site. Being moderately successful, along with being in good shape while in my mid 30's, at least ok looking, and being overall adequate at personability and fun fun. I must say I am 9 out of 10 times disappointed in the holistic quality of SBs. They tend to fall into 3 categories and the 4th being titled "Unicorn".[/QUOTE]Couldn't have said it better myself. A striking percentage of women on SA fall into the first two categories.

Unfortunately, there are also a significant amount of men out there who still pay their ludicrous prices for arrangements. I've had moments where I offered less to settle for less (desperation in a competitive market), only to be promptly "bought-out" by some other high roller with low standards whom has no respect for his own money. I've had unkempt land whales with year (s) old accounts message me trying to get half a grand+ for a meet and greet; which means some fool out there is paying those prices! Yuck.

Then there's the "cinderellas" as you describe. Beautiful, excellent social skills, prompt with communication, no bullshit. Until she gets in the door. Suddenly it becomes clear that a worn out couch cushion would have rewarded you with a better time. The one unicorn arrangement I managed to win over lasted about 7 months. She unfortunately moved away to take care of aging family.

I've already given up on STG and other sites. SA is (and has been) on the downward spiral for a while now. It's only a matter of time before I abandon that ship too.

Any info on this lady.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d4954685-2e79-43fd-b5da-f5f2d50db8da[/URL]

[QUOTE=Biscuits1234;5819570]Couldn't have said it better myself. A striking percentage of women on SA fall into the first two categories.

Unfortunately, there are also a significant amount of men out there who still pay their ludicrous prices for arrangements. I've had moments where I offered less to settle for less (desperation in a competitive market), only to be promptly "bought-out" by some other high roller with low standards whom has no respect for his own money. I've had unkempt land whales with year (s) old accounts message me trying to get half a grand+ for a meet and greet; which means some fool out there is paying those prices! Yuck.

Then there's the "cinderellas" as you describe. Beautiful, excellent social skills, prompt with communication, no bullshit. Until she gets in the door. Suddenly it becomes clear that a worn out couch cushion would have rewarded you with a better time. The one unicorn arrangement I managed to win over lasted about 7 months. She unfortunately moved away to take care of aging family.

I've already given up on STG and other sites. SA is (and has been) on the downward spiral for a while now. It's only a matter of time before I abandon that ship too.[/QUOTE]How guys are paying whatever they charge now to spend endless hours going through fakers and scammers and the entitled ones with the statement" I know my worth" the site is so far in the drain now that only the unaware or desperate are even bothering with it and to top it off after they get their subscription money from you the harassment begins for really no reason. To make matters worse almost all the legitimate hookers I met through agencies in the past had superior hygiene to almost anyone I met on there and I mean at the asking price of $500 and up how disappointing does it get when they show up un showered and in a rush?

A few back and forth messages and went for the digits and got radio silence.

[QUOTE=SmallAsianCock;5820039]Any info on this lady.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d4954685-2e79-43fd-b5da-f5f2d50db8da[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sobe69;5822816]A few back and forth messages and went for the digits and got radio silence.[/QUOTE]I also exchanged messages with her a few times on SA. She expressed interest but then went silent.

We texted for some time. She wanted 300 for a dinner date and 500 for the deed. I passed.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/34df9c62-01ad-4ee8-a387-0324a99905d5[/URL]

[QUOTE=SandPiper540;5812160]Has anyone made contact with this one. She sure sounds legit, I'm hoping to visit her this weekend. [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/aee76fe2-00fd-4f5b-8e1e-ab583a0a78c4[/URL].[/QUOTE]She's legit.

Did you ever meet her?

If anyone wants to use it for 25% off. Debating if I want to further frustrations.

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[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/175ab7d5-53f5-4287-97da-11fc0a60323f[/URL]

Else, it worth the drive.

[QUOTE=Aafakljgadkg;5828096][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/175ab7d5-53f5-4287-97da-11fc0a60323f[/URL]

Else, it worth the drive.[/QUOTE]Definite scam. The pics are a model on IG. Olivia something. We are not lucky enough to have that locally.

[QUOTE=Aafakljgadkg;5828096][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/175ab7d5-53f5-4287-97da-11fc0a60323f[/URL]

Else, it worth the drive.[/QUOTE]Definitely Fake. Google the pictures and you will also be able to confirm the same.

Tldrl if too busy, read the last paragraph.

I had a date, the went well by most metrics. The expected reimbursement was paid (more than 24 hours later); vigorously testing the hardwood floor of my office. Because, of the design of it, a comfortable sleeping suite, is transformed within. So, multiple smiles were had, at least by one truly. Though, within hours of good-byes and reimbursement, with the hollow "thank you's" I am told that -.

More is needed for another date. Informed my personality and magnetism were the only reasons she "overlooked" taking less (that she never specified) to enjoy the moment with me. Going forward, it would be more.

This is Bullshit.

I will not beat around the Bush with you guys. I have a beautiful wife (maybe the hate for me working so much at my company is motivation.) . Luckily, she (for the most part) is up for the naughty adventures. - A mix of issues and attitude make it less intimate than most would want. I bring this up to ask.

If there is a woman at home that holds her beauty in mind or body. Why are we allowing such blackmail?

In this forum, we are not the lower level predictable vases. (We are men, we are predictable.).

Last paragraph:

Why is this allowed?

As a singular body of consciousness (I am not touching the sex issue) . This forum section has many men I am sure we could become friends in real life. Hell, we might be able to advance each other as well. Why allow women that do not understand how you reached your status, your situation rule your situation with equal weight?

In desperate moments why do you cave?

If you guys do not want this public, please just DM me. I want to know.