Safe Sex Information and Advice

[QUOTE=KiraXXX;3499523]I'm curious, do you guys know if SW (or BP, or any other adult sites providers) play safe or bb, "not who" , just if you think any do? IF so, do you think you would post about it, or if someone did partake do you think they would say it was bb play?[/QUOTE]Hey Kira, many BP play bb. I always bring my own protection because some don't have any or care if you use it. You don't see it talked about much hear but when I travel for work I read reviews in other areas and you would be surprised how many guys talk about BBFS and CIP. A lot of these girls do have substance problems so it is a similar risk to sharing needle's for them.

[QUOTE=EGrayUpState;3499916]I think a majority of them will BB and have offered BBFS. Absolutely. I also think if offered, a lot of men will partake be it the small population on these sites or the larger iceberg population not on these sites. I do not believe it gets reported as often as it happens and instead is reported as covered.[/QUOTE]Agreed 100%.

[QUOTE=KiraXXX;3499523]I'm curious, do you guys know if SW (or BP, or any other adult sites providers) play safe or bb, "not who" , just if you think any do? IF so, do you think you would post about it, or if someone did partake do you think they would say it was bb play?[/QUOTE]Yes I have been offered BBFS as an up-sale by a small percentage of BP girls. But I consider it just like drinking and driving. - You may get away with it a few times, but sooner or later you are going to get caught! - But I do love BBBJ. I know it makes no sense, but that is just being honest. - Dave.

[QUOTE=EGrayUpState;3499916]I think a majority of them will BB and have offered BBFS. Absolutely. I also think if offered, a lot of men will partake be it the small population on these sites or the larger iceberg population not on these sites. I do not believe it gets reported as often as it happens and instead is reported as covered.[/QUOTE]Many providers, not only those who advertise on backpage but are on these sites, WILL offer BBFS. Don't kid yourself that it's ONLY backpage advertisers. Some providers may offer it to long time regular clients for a variety of reasons; some providers may offer it as an upcharge, as they may do with Greek; and some may do it regularly. Now as for men actually writing that they DID bareback in a review, that a different story. Providers usually DON'T want that fact put in a review for everyone to read. Some men will see that fact that the provider does bare back and stay away for that very reason. But on the other hand, some men will see that provider expecting that same service. And the reason men DON'T report the bare back in reviews may be that some other providers WON'T see men who have had bare back with other providers.

I've had three or four offer BBFS and partook on three of them. Luckily no itchy scratchy issues. I will name two of them if anyone has been around long enough to recognize them they can feedback as well. One was Jamie, the super sexy redhead we all loved for a while. The other way the girl who went by Ryan over in Troy. She used to just jump on with mention of a cover. After two times I stopped going because I knew it was a gamble. The third girl I never got her name, but she offered so I took it. Just my input. Be safe fellas.

[QUOTE=KiraXXX;3499523]I'm curious, do you guys know if SW (or BP, or any other adult sites providers) play safe or bb, "not who" , just if you think any do? IF so, do you think you would post about it, or if someone did partake do you think they would say it was bb play?[/QUOTE]I had a convo w a friend on the topic, please don't misunderstand my reason for the curiosity. Its not something I am considering at all for any reason, in my personal life or other wise.

If not comfortable posting about this topic in public forum please pm me.

Thank you for all feedback gents!!

[QUOTE=WarDog23;3499976]Hey Kira, many BP play bb. I always bring my own protection because some don't have any or care if you use it. You don't see it talked about much hear but when I travel for work I read reviews in other areas and you would be surprised how many guys talk about BBFS and CIP. A lot of these girls do have substance problems so it is a similar risk to sharing needle's for them.[/QUOTE]Hell, I have seen numerous photos of dudes who take photos of their pearl jam oozing out of the providers' snatches. Kinda gross actually, but they seem to wear it like a badge of pride. Like those photos of hunters with the dead deer or elk as he grabs onto its rack! In a few areas, one can see videos and photos galore of encounters. SO, BBFS is obviously occurring rampantly out there and with CIP / creampie. And CIA too.

[QUOTE=Quail;3500254]Many providers, not only those who advertise on backpage but are on these sites, WILL offer BBFS. Don't kid yourself that it's ONLY backpage advertisers. Some providers may offer it to long time regular clients for a variety of reasons; some providers may offer it as an upcharge, as they may do with Greek; and some may do it regularly. Now as for men actually writing that they DID bareback in a review, that a different story. Providers usually DON'T want that fact put in a review for everyone to read. Some men will see that fact that the provider does bare back and stay away for that very reason. But on the other hand, some men will see that provider expecting that same service. And the reason men DON'T report the bare back in reviews may be that some other providers WON'T see men who have had bare back with other providers.[/QUOTE]All very true and reasoned. One other thing of gal with a regular. They may do it at no upcharge knowing that if a guy DOES do that, he prefers and likes it that way and she will get him to keep coming back for more and more as it feels better / more wanted by the dude, rather than go elsewhere to seek same. Dangerous stuff.

Oh, that may be ANOTHER reason. DANGER / RISK.

All others perspectives or speculations are also very good reasoned points, such as same risk as needle. Problem is, they may know they have hepatitis C or other issue and in no way care to protect any person they come in contact with.

[QUOTE=KiraXXX;3499523]I'm curious, do you guys know if SW (or BP, or any other adult sites providers) play safe or bb, "not who" , just if you think any do? IF so, do you think you would post about it, or if someone did partake do you think they would say it was bb play?[/QUOTE]Many have provided input to you, no one asked why you are asking. Someone pushing you for that? Or cannot say.

To Thine Own Self Be True. Screw every one else's thoughts or agendas of what you should do, or what THEY want you to do or do to you. You are in the driver's seat.

Also, condoms break and when that happens, I would say guys will normally just keep going at that point unless the girl knows and pins her legs together causing the guy to squirt out like shit through a goose! The problem is, it feels SOOOO good to a man. If you only knew. Sex BB is like sex, Sex with a cover is not like sex, but an effort or more like work to try to feel good and try to be pleased with it and THAT is part of why BBBJ is a great alternative for guys. Quite safer for both and an extremely great feeling if done right, vs. A layer of latex and the issues that causes.

[QUOTE=BubbaBlue;3500297]I've had three or four offer BBFS and partook on three of them. Luckily no itchy scratchy issues. I will name two of them if anyone has been around long enough to recognize them they can feedback as well. One was Jamie, the super sexy redhead we all loved for a while. The other way the girl who went by Ryan over in Troy. She used to just jump on with mention of a cover. After two times I stopped going because I knew it was a gamble. The third girl I never got her name, but she offered so I took it. Just my input. Be safe fellas.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much for your openness and honesty. Why did you partake with the ladies you did bb with? Was just those particular ladies or was it bc someone offered it (didn't really matter who it was) ??

[QUOTE=Freedom2B;3500476]All very true and reasoned. One other thing of gal with a regular. They may do it at no upcharge knowing that if a guy DOES do that, he prefers and likes it that way and she will get him to keep coming back for more and more as it feels better / more wanted by the dude, rather than go elsewhere to seek same. Dangerous stuff.

Oh, that may be ANOTHER reason. DANGER / RISK.

All others perspectives or speculations are also very good reasoned points, such as same risk as needle. Problem is, they may know they have hepatitis C or other issue and in no way care to protect any person they come in contact with.[/QUOTE]I recall reading about a girl either on this site or the other one maybe a year ago not sure when who kept getting reviewed with BBFS in them and when someone asked her about she talked about how she just wanted to get pregnant even if it was by one of us.

[QUOTE=KiraXXX;3501269]Thank you so much for your openness and honesty. Why did you partake with the ladies you did bb with? Was just those particular ladies or was it bc someone offered it (didn't really matter who it was) ??[/QUOTE]I have only recently been engaging in BBFS with very high risk providers. For me it is the escalation of my sex addiction and the thrill of the risk.

Not something I would brag about.

[QUOTE=Knucklebuck;3502342]I have only recently been engaging in BBFS with very high risk providers. For me it is the escalation of my sex addiction and the thrill of the risk.

Not something I would brag about.[/QUOTE]But you do see that it is risky. That's a start. Do you get tested? Do you go to S. A. A?

If a girl shows obvious signs of H candy, and you suck face or get a BBBJ, any issues to follow? Searched the net w/o answer. I'm sure there is some risk, not sure how big.
Thanks

Risk with BBBJ is small, but not 0, if worried about getting Hepatitis or HIV. Chlamydia and Gonorrhea can also be spread via BBBJ.

[QUOTE=Girls1;3503939]If a girl shows obvious signs of H candy, and you suck face or get a BBBJ, any issues to follow? Searched the net w/o answer. I'm sure there is some risk, not sure how big.
Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Girls1;3503939]If a girl shows obvious signs of H candy, and you suck face or get a BBBJ, any issues to follow? Searched the net w/o answer. I'm sure there is some risk, not sure how big.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Not sure where you searched but when in doubt go to the place that keeps such records. [URL]https://www.cdc.gov/std/healthcomm/stdfact-stdriskandoralsex.htm[/URL].

As been stated for HIV the risk is very low, other more common types are much higher.

Okay, I guess what I meant was: If someone is on H, does that give the receiving BBBJ partner any other H related problems?

I understand there are some risks with BBBJ, but is there other 'issues' or is it 'worse' if someone is on that H?

[QUOTE=BadBoyFourU;3504173]Not sure where you searched but when in doubt go to the place that keeps such records. [URL]https://www.cdc.gov/std/healthcomm/stdfact-stdriskandoralsex.htm[/URL].

As been stated for HIV the risk is very low, other more common types are much higher.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BadBoyFourU;3504173]Not sure where you searched but when in doubt go to the place that keeps such records. [URL]https://www.cdc.gov/std/healthcomm/stdfact-stdriskandoralsex.htm[/URL].

As been stated for HIV the risk is very low, other more common types are much higher.[/QUOTE]Ton's of good stuff out there. Lot's of BP providers shoot up. Not clear how many share needles but not sure I'd want to be infected by one. This forum helps weed out some but not all users.

[URL]https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/heroin/why-are-heroin-users-special-risk-contracting-hivaids-hepatitis-b-c[/URL]

Well if they are using a needle to inject herion, especially needles that aren't new, they are at increased risk for hepatitis and HIV. If you are getting a BBBJ then you are exposing yourself to that risk. Again that risk may be low, but not zero.

[QUOTE=Girls1;3505356]Okay, I guess what I meant was: If someone is on H, does that give the receiving BBBJ partner any other H related problems?

I understand there are some risks with BBBJ, but is there other 'issues' or is it 'worse' if someone is on that H?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SpongeBob66;3506652]Well said, VisaGod! General society has a warped notion about what this is all about. And the newest puritan crusaders want to relabel everything sexual and commercial as "human trafficking. " What self-serving BS. A more accurate, legitimate and humane label might be "Sex Therapy. " I wish they could walk a mile in my or your shoes!

I'd be the very first person to want to jail those who would exploit children or use force against anyone for sex--or for anything else for that matter. But why a government thinks it has a right to interfere in a private exchange between two willing adults is beyond me. Big Brother should mind it's own damn business, and perhaps recall the days when their pious laws forbade interracial marriage, and homosexuality. Yeah, how enlightened was that?![/QUOTE]If JVisaGod finds an attractive woman and has sex with her, the government doesn't give a shit. But if JVisaGod finds an attractive woman and pays her to have sex with her, now the government cares. Because of the money factor. It has and always will be about the money and nothing but the money.

[QUOTE=Girls1;3505356]Okay, I guess what I meant was: If someone is on H, does that give the receiving BBBJ partner any other H related problems?

I understand there are some risks with BBBJ, but is there other 'issues' or is it 'worse' if someone is on that H?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MikeYepthatsm;3505885]Well if they are using a needle to inject herion, especially needles that aren't new, they are at increased risk for hepatitis and HIV. If you are getting a BBBJ then you are exposing yourself to that risk. Again that risk may be low, but not zero.[/QUOTE]If you read legitimate in depth studies on disease transmission and not just websites telling you about the importance of safe sex, you'll find that the possibility of contracting an STI (besides herpes) by recieving oral sex is negligible if not zero. Because HIV has to actually enter the bloodstream, recieving anal sex from an infected male, sharing needles, and blood transfusions are probably the only way anyone who wasn't born with it has ever contracted the virus. People claiming otherwise are likely unwilling to admit drug use or having had gay sex. I am so certain of this that if any of you knows and attractive HIV infected woman who is interested in giving me a free BJ every day for a month in the name of science, I would be willing to participate in that study and publish the results here.

But I believe the original question was whether or not it is possible to contract symptoms of heroin use besides STIs from oral sex. The answer to this is also 'no.' Things like itching and grinding of the teeth are the result of the way the drug interacts with the nervous system. It also causes cravings for sweet foods. This combined with the fact that addicts often neglect oral hygiene is what causes severe tooth decay. There are no communicable side effects of heroin use. If you are not actually putting it into your body, it won't physically affect you.

Thanks to all the mongers who provided advice both here and through pm. Much appreciated.

[QUOTE=ChadAdler;3506716]If you read legitimate in depth studies on disease transmission and not just websites telling you about the importance of safe sex, you'll find that the possibility of contracting an STI (besides herpes) by recieving oral sex is negligible if not zero. Because HIV has to actually enter the bloodstream, recieving anal sex from an infected male, sharing needles, and blood transfusions are probably the only way anyone who wasn't born with it has ever contracted the virus. People claiming otherwise are likely unwilling to admit drug use or having had gay sex. I am so certain of this that if any of you knows and attractive HIV infected woman who is interested in giving me a free BJ every day for a month in the name of science, I would be willing to participate in that study and publish the results here.

But I believe the original question was whether or not it is possible to contract symptoms of heroin use besides STIs from oral sex. The answer to this is also 'no.' Things like itching and grinding of the teeth are the result of the way the drug interacts with the nervous system. It also causes cravings for sweet foods. This combined with the fact that addicts often neglect oral hygiene is what causes severe tooth decay. There are no communicable side effects of heroin use. If you are not actually putting it into your body, it won't physically affect you.[/QUOTE]

Hey mongers,

Just a question to the group. How safe are BBBJs? Got to be my favorite past time. Over the years I have been very selective on which gal gets to do this but its always a chance of getting something. Ten years ago caught simplex I on my cock from BBBJ, I thought I already had it but my cock said otherwise. Been tested few times and always only simplex I and not the dreaded II. Anyways no solid answers on the web.

[QUOTE=GameOfThongs;3509436]Hey mongers,

Just a question to the group. How safe are BBBJs? Got to be my favorite past time. Over the years I have been very selective on which gal gets to do this but its always a chance of getting something. Ten years ago caught simplex I on my cock from BBBJ, I thought I already had it but my cock said otherwise. Been tested few times and always only simplex I and not the dreaded II. Anyways no solid answers on the web.[/QUOTE]If you have to ask if it is safe than you should not be doing it. Of course it is not safe. I don't think getting reassurances from a guy like me who has gotten bareback full service for the last 40 years serves any purpose.

[QUOTE=GameOfThongs;3509436]Hey mongers,

Just a question to the group. How safe are BBBJs? Got to be my favorite past time. Over the years I have been very selective on which gal gets to do this but its always a chance of getting something. Ten years ago caught simplex I on my cock from BBBJ, I thought I already had it but my cock said otherwise. Been tested few times and always only simplex I and not the dreaded II. Anyways no solid answers on the web.[/QUOTE]Mostly safe but there's always risks, there are now cases of gonorrhea transmitted thru oral sex that is resistant to all antibiotics we have (there is one drug in clinical trials that cures this resistant strain but it could be months / years away) if you think about catching something while getting BBBJ you shouldn't monger at all, you can't worry and have all that in your mind while getting a BBBJ.

[QUOTE=GameOfThongs;3509436]Hey mongers,

Just a question to the group. How safe are BBBJs? Got to be my favorite past time. Over the years I have been very selective on which gal gets to do this but its always a chance of getting something. Ten years ago caught simplex I on my cock from BBBJ, I thought I already had it but my cock said otherwise. Been tested few times and always only simplex I and not the dreaded II. Anyways no solid answers on the web.[/QUOTE]Writing this from mass (my home state) altho I used to own a house in lasvegas. I caught 2 stds by a backpage girl who gave me a BBBJ. And I didn't even cim. After my date next day when I peed it burned like a motherfucka. Glt tested for free at a clinic down the street from me I caught o believe clamadhia and gonehera. 1 pill killed one std but the other required a shot on my butt I practice billy meier religion so what I'm posting is 100 percent truth.

[QUOTE=AdderAll;3513602]Writing this from mass (my home state) altho I used to own a house in lasvegas. I caught 2 stds by a backpage girl who gave me a BBBJ. And I didn't even cim. After my date next day when I peed it burned like a motherfucka. Glt tested for free at a clinic down the street from me I caught o believe clamadhia and gonehera. 1 pill killed one std but the other required a shot on my butt I practice billy meier religion so what I'm posting is 100 percent truth.[/QUOTE]I'm not suggesting that bbbjs don't have risk. They do, and you could have caught the burn from a BBBJ. It is very, very unlikely that you caught it from someone who sucked you off the night before. It usually takes about a week after infection for symptoms to arise.

[QUOTE=CuriousInquir;3514386]I'm not suggesting that bbbjs don't have risk. They do, and you could have caught the burn from a BBBJ. It is very, very unlikely that you caught it from someone who sucked you off the night before. It usually takes about a week after infection for symptoms to arise.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the response every time I see a girl pretty much the same thing BJ without a condom kissing and I was wearing condom when I have sex so I caught these two STDs from either BJ or kissing so it doesn't matter if this particular girl gave it to me or somebody else but I know for a fact I got it from one of the girls and I never have unprotected sex so again just trying to pass real information because I'm sick and tired of Googling things and not knowing what to believe but this is a. Great platform where us guys share real information and I love this formun Wicked.

[QUOTE=AdderAll;3514795]Thanks for the response every time I see a girl pretty much the same thing BJ without a condom kissing and I was wearing condom when I have sex so I caught these two STDs from either BJ or kissing so it doesn't matter if this particular girl gave it to me or somebody else but I know for a fact I got it from one of the girls and I never have unprotected sex so again just trying to pass real information because I'm sick and tired of Googling things and not knowing what to believe but this is a. Great platform where us guys share real information and I love this formun Wicked.[/QUOTE]I have someone at work who thinks a Canker sore is herpes, now I might be wrong but after googling it I believe that I am right it s not a part of herpes it's more or less an ulcer of the mouth!

[QUOTE=Joesun1;3517037]I have someone at work who thinks a Canker sore is herpes, now I might be wrong but after googling it I believe that I am right it s not a part of herpes it's more or less an ulcer of the mouth![/QUOTE]As far as I know, canker sores are NOT caused by the herpes virus, while cold sores are caused by the herpes virus. If I remember correctly, cankers sores occur inside the mouth, while cold sores occur outside the mouth.

[QUOTE=JackHolly;3519229]As far as I know, canker sores are NOT caused by the herpes virus, while cold sores are caused by the herpes virus. If I remember correctly, cankers sores occur inside the mouth, while cold sores occur outside the mouth.[/QUOTE]HSV-1 is the mouth type, but can also be transferred to the genitals. HSV-2 is genital herpes. Both very contageous.

[QUOTE=JoeDick2012;3519271]HSV-1 is the mouth type, but can also be transferred to the genitals. HSV-2 is genital herpes. Both very contageous.[/QUOTE]Asked my doctor about this a few months ago. He said the only way you can transmit the HPV is if you yourself are having an episode when you have sex with the girl. So if you have sex when not having the symptoms, you're not spreading it to your partner. Just what my doctor mentioned to me when I asked.

A.

[QUOTE=Aviator1958;3541276]Asked my doctor about this a few months ago. He said the only way you can transmit the HPV is if you yourself are having an episode when you have sex with the girl. So if you have sex when not having the symptoms, you're not spreading it to your partner. Just what my doctor mentioned to me when I asked.

A.[/QUOTE]Untrue! Herpes virus can shed even when there are no symptoms-its just more likely if symptoms are present. Sophisticated culture studies at the University of Washington showed virus shed sometimes even in asymptomatic HSV1 carriers. Your best bet is to take Valtrex to suppress the virus but even that is no guarantee against transmission if contact is BB. Valtrex PLUS condom is the recommended prescription against infecting a partner.

[QUOTE=Phallacy;3551699]Untrue! Herpes virus can shed even when there are no symptoms-its just more likely if symptoms are present. Sophisticated culture studies at the University of Washington showed virus shed sometimes even in asymptomatic HSV1 carriers. Your best bet is to take Valtrex to suppress the virus but even that is no guarantee against transmission if contact is BB. Valtrex PLUS condom is the recommended prescription against infecting a partner.[/QUOTE]That's interesting information. Are you a doctor or in the medical field?

The topic here is getting fired up, I just love reading your discussion. Very informative.

So I have been in the hobby for about 4 years now. Not quite as active now because Florida had better selection than Virginia does (where I am now). I have always practiced safe sex have never done BBFS but have had my share of BBBJ's. Always have done research to find the legit girls. Throughout the years I never have had any issues with STI or STD. But I guess it was bound to happen. Looks like I might have contracted HPV, and from my research I have HPV 6 or 11. The warts I have pretty much look like skin tags. No pain, not spreading. And HPV not to be confused with HSV, totally different things. At least that's my understanding from research. I've read that the body can get rid of the warts in it's own over a period of 3 months. I guess I'm looking for advice on what course of action I need to take to find a remedy. And no I have not visited a physician just yet. Here's the plot twist. I have a SO and I am AD Military. If anyone on here is AD Mil, Will the physician I visit require me to disclose this info to my SO if I visit clinic on base? And what is the treatment for HPV?? Again. HPV 6 or 11 not the other types. And what are some alternative cost free clinics I can visit?? I have done research and I can only think of the planned Parenthood for testing and possible treatment at a reduced cost or free. Thanks fellas. Much help needed and very appreciated.

[QUOTE=USNen;3564719]Looks like I might have contracted HPV, The warts I have pretty much look like skin tags. No pain, not spreading. And HPV not to be confused with HSV, totally different things. I've read that the body can get rid of the warts in it's own over a period of 3 months. I guess I'm looking for advice on what course of action I need to take to find a remedy.[/QUOTE]HPV and HSV are both caused by a virus. There are some natural antiviral supplements you could try. Monolaurin from coconut oil is supposed to have antiviral activity. The most concentrated and highest dosage available is a product called Lauricidin. It is totally safe. A more controversial supplement is BHT, a food preservative available in capsules. I don't know if it's safe. Some people claim to have cured themselves of viral infections like hepatitis by using it.

You could also try placing tiny drops of chlorine bleach on the warts. I did this on the bottom of my foot. It worked and didn't hurt. In your case it is in a more sensitive location, so it will probably hurt. The trick is to get the drops very small so they don't touch the surrounding skin. Maybe try dipping a pointy object like a toothpick into the bleach.

Yes it is out there. The ladies who do it are taking more risk than the men and most will say it is YMMV and at their discretion.

In many cases if the lady feels safe with you she will just proceed to doing it without asking. For those who won't, they will have the condom ready and waiting.

The question was raised as to why BBBJ and BBFS are linked in the same forum? For the educated it makes sense. BBBJ and BBFS have the same STD risk, so if you do one, then you should not be afraid of the other. Over my almost year 30 hobby life, I have gotten Chlamydia twice and in both cases it came from BBBJ, and it was from reputable, top tier ladies. I have also received the dreaded, "I think you should be tested. " phone call once. That instance proved to be negative, but it goes to show you that even if you and the lady are tested regularly, you can only claim that you are truely clean up to the next time you get a BBBJ.

The most risky act, BBANAL is never talked about. It is about the only way a man can get HIV from a woman sexually. The anus was not meant to take the stress of sex. The sphincter will tear and bleed. Blood equals risk for both parties. It is rumored that BBANAL is what made Magic Johnson HIV positive, his wife stayed clean while getting pregnant by him. Think about that a bit.

Because of the risk to the woman, BBFS should have an upcharge and should be at the lady's choice. If you are one of the ones that ask for it, then only ask once. If the answer is "No" then move on to CFS. Begging, bartering and attempted negotiation is a juvenile and unmanly thing to do.

Hear, hear!

I'd say Amon can offer some direction on who to contact. For me, however, it would be who NOT to contact! LOL.

[QUOTE=BTBear;3586790]Yes it is out there. The ladies who do it are taking more risk than the men and most will say it is YMMV and at their discretion.

In many cases if the lady feels safe with you she will just proceed to doing it without asking. For those who won't, they will have the condom ready and waiting.

The question was raised as to why BBBJ and BBFS are linked in the same forum? For the educated it makes sense. BBBJ and BBFS have the same STD risk, so if you do one, then you should not be afraid of the other. Over my almost year 30 hobby life, I have gotten Chlamydia twice and in both cases it came from BBBJ, and it was from reputable, top tier ladies. I have also received the dreaded, "I think you should be tested. " phone call once. That instance proved to be negative, but it goes to show you that even if you and the lady are tested regularly, you can only claim that you are truely clean up to the next time you get a BBBJ.

The most risky act, BBANAL is never talked about. It is about the only way a man can get HIV from a woman sexually. The anus was not meant to take the stress of sex. The sphincter will tear and bleed. Blood equals risk for both parties. It is rumored that BBANAL is what made Magic Johnson HIV positive, his wife stayed clean while getting pregnant by him. Think about that a bit.

Because of the risk to the woman, BBFS should have an upcharge and should be at the lady's choice. If you are one of the ones that ask for it, then only ask once. If the answer is "No" then move on to CFS. Begging, bartering and attempted negotiation is a juvenile and unmanly thing to do.[/QUOTE]

What risks are reasonably possible with a hand job?

Hand job only with or without oils.