Considering going Sat evening ( would be a quickie with a return that evening) I went last week and had a blast.
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Considering going Sat evening ( would be a quickie with a return that evening) I went last week and had a blast.
Bad experience at one of the clubs today. Girl came on strong, got me worked up then got greedy, did a bad job and left me high and dry. Learned my lesson i guess, will know better for next time. Trial and error.
Visited AP last night and the week prior, only 51. 3 miles from my house. Door to door. As always easy to find and deal with. Walk across the border, tell the nearest cab driver "la zona" and you are off to the races.
I usually start at the 5-10 Patio (usually the best looking and thinnest selection) and then head to the Flamingo. Price is USUALLY 50 to the girl and 10 to the Inn Keeper. There were several attractive ladies in the 5&10 (most don't come out until after 2200).
Last week I met 'Nossy' at the Flamingo. Petite & attractive. Very much into BBBJ, DFK, and all positions. A LOT of fun But last night she was nowhere to be found. So, I moved over to the 5&10 (several great looking ladies) and chose Lupita: small, attractive gal, very friendly and willing. Total GFE, fun but not as much as Nossy.
It's Friday night in Tucson so I ventured out to Candy Store and TD's East just to see what it was like. It's been a while since I sampled the night life in the clubs. I'm a daytime person and I've established my credentials with the day shifts in the many clubs so I was amazed to see the difference between the day and night operations. In the case of CS, the daytime is most definitely the time to be there because, once the sun goes down, the club changes its character completely—and not for the better. On the other hand, TD's seems to have consistent quality throughout the day.
I was amazed at the difference in clubs. For instance the cover charge at CS was $5 (Rosie on the door, of course) and $9 at TD's East. Drinks were $3.75 at CS and $5.75 at TD's. VIP room entry fee is $15 at CS, $30 at TD's. Floor dances are $5 at CS, $8 at TD's. VIP dances are $10 at CS, $15 at TD's. Here's the big difference: CS was a disaster while TD's was a hit.
I was at CS for an hour and was never asked for a dance. The atmosphere of the club, the dancers, and the music I'd characterize as juvenile gangsta thuggery. The attitudes of the customers and dancers were crude, gutter, classless, tasteless, and snotty. Case in point: after an hour of zero, zilch, nada interest, I asked a dancer to dance for me. She gave me the snotty attitude, "I only dance in the VIP." As it happens, I wanted a dance in the VIP, but with that attitude I told her to forget it. The young crowd was dressed like they just came in from a gang meeting. The dancers were dressed like they just arrived from a hooker convention.
Somebody needs to tell the management to improve their hiring practices. There was only one dancer there that I'd consider a 6 on the proverbial scale (but she had the attitude problem). The rest were mostly 2-4s with an abundance of hips, jowls, and tattoos. They were awful examples of what strippers are supposed to be. It's as if the manager went to the unemployment office and picked the first ten females in line and threw bras and t-bars on them and pushed them out on stage. No talent, no personality, no effort, no interest. There was nothing about any of the dancers—on or off stage—that made you want to approach them. I left.
My next stop was TD's East when I got there only about seven customers were in attendance while eight servers, four floormen, and a restroom attendant scurried around trying to look busy. In the first hour I was asked fifteen times (I counted) if I was okay or if I wanted anything. There is such a thing as too much customer relations.
The quality of dancers showed in every aspect. The best looking dancer at CS was still less lovely than the ugliest dancer at TD's. The attitude of the TD's dancers were friendly, attentive, conversational, sexy, and welcoming. I must of had at least a dozen dancers ask me for dances. Everything about the experience had class—even the girl-on-girl action in the VIP between two dancers.
I had the best experience of the night with two TD's dancers in particular. One was Puerto Rican with the nicest, juiciest bubble butt ever, nice naturals, and a name that I can't remember. She was a darling in the VIP. The other was Lacy, a tall, all-natural leggy brunette with gorgeous legs who gave me a gfe but without the sex. Everything else about her performance was delicious, especially the DFK.
Friday night at the clubs. Next stop—Nogales.
Reporting from the front lines,
Sexhobbyist
[QUOTE=Dov Naish][url]Www.ladiesofnogales.com[/url]
Tear it up with those guys. They made a site, so they must know how to roll down there. It showed me some places I didn't know about and let me see some of the dancers ahead, which saved time. Good luck and I hope you have a blast.[/QUOTE]
The site you highlight was up to date about five years ago. Some of the bars have come and gone, others are not listed yet. I think there were like two dancers still working last February that were pictured--Lorania and Paulina at OBS.
This forum and the [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=445]International Sex Guide[/url] contain the internet's best info on Nogi. I'm not bragging, but I recommend that [post=502393]noobs start reading here[/post] (I wrote the post).
LoveLOS
SH & others with him:
ENJOOY!!!!! & Do and extra one for LL!
My report about my Nogales adventure is on the Nogales forum. But, before I went, I stopped at a local Tucson club because one of my regulars was in heat and demanded I service her. I love it when a woman's hormones overtake her sex drive. In this case, it was an opportunity I'd experienced many times previously with this dancer and I knew I didn't want to miss it. And, it was a freebie. So, knowing it might affect my Nogales "readiness," I succumbed to her desire and let her, literally, have her way with me. As usual in these situations, she was an animal and the sex was outrageously off-the-scale. I blew a nut after she came three times so I knew I'd probably only have one climax at my disposal for Nogales. Read on at the Nogales forum.
Sexhobbyist
[QUOTE=Sexhobbyist] But, before I went, I stopped at a local Tucson club...
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So, knowing it might affect my Nogales "readiness," I succumbed to her desire and let her, literally, have her way with me. As usual in these situations, she was an animal and the sex was outrageously off-the-scale. I blew a nut after she came three times so I knew I'd probably only have one climax at my disposal for Nogales. [/QUOTE]I swear I busted you and hypothecized this transgression on the Nogi board before I read this. I would have done the same,but where is the extra one you fucked for me?
LL
Sexhobbyist scored twice tonight. Seniors can PM for details.
Also, met up with Mythicbrew. The guy is an excellent monger of the best quality.
Sexhobbyist
Well, after staying out of the clubs for a week or so I ventured in yesterday afternoon to see who was in. While it was a busy afternoon I was able to still get attention from just about any dancer I wanted (one of my regular dancers told me that even though it looked busy most of the guys weren't getting dances).
I chose my dancers well yesterday as it was a double score (and almost the trifecta)! Maybe staying away for a week gives me more appeal? Nah, I think there were a lot of horny dancers yesterday!!! My first score planted herself in my lap before I even rec'd my drinks and whispered in my ear that she had decided she wanted to ride me as soon as she got off stage. I had barely recovered when I saw my next opportunity standing at the bar. I went over to see when we could play and she was due to go on stage so I had to wait two songs. No worries (truth be told I could use a few more minutes to regain composure, lol). Once in VIP she made it instantly clear she was as horny as she could be. Though she was short on time (end of her shift) we went the distance to send her home happy. The third, and last, little lady I had eyed on my way into VIP and was hoping to catch her later. We started with some very, very nice floor dances and then decided to move to VIP after her stage set (is there a pattern here?). VIP was excellent but just short of the holy grail. Some coaxing here and she might deliver as well. Needless to say I left yesterday afternoon quite fulfilled (or empty depending on how you look at it)!
Established mongers may PM for more details...
K4me
Just want to add a followup to a previous report regarding temperance in reporting on this particular thread.
Required reading is SH's report on his adventures in Nogales.
Reading his report serves as a reminder that this guy has achieved goals that many of us dream of. He has set new standards for strip club mongering and continues to prove his abilities whether in Tucson or Nogales.
In spite of his advantages (enormous dick and wallet), the man deserves an immense amount of credit for his contributions to the USG. I believe that his accounts of his experiences are completely reliable (... as complete fiction of course :) )
As I see it Sexhobbyist is in control of this USG thread. He will need to decide how best to influence others who participate in the local hobby.
I wish him well.
DN
Hey SH,
It was great meeting up with you as well. While I arrived after you completed your adventures and didn't stay long since I was taking my favorita out of the club, I enjoyed our talk immensely. You are a genuine guy and a top-notch monger. You are good to the ladies and they are good to you! 8^)
I've had a very busy work week and so haven't been in the clubs since meeting up with you but I'm looking forward to meeting up with you again, swapping more stories, and thoroughly enjoying our monger adventures.
Later,
MythicBrew
[QUOTE=Sexhobbyist]Sexhobbyist scored twice tonight. Seniors can PM for details.
Also, met up with Mythicbrew. The guy is an excellent monger of the best quality.
Sexhobbyist[/QUOTE]
Made a lunchtime visit into the CS today. Pretty slow overall but a very good ratio of dancers to guys. Even some new faces to try out with some interesting accents (Peru and France if I'm not mistaken). Things were starting to pick up when I left to go back to work.
Fortunately I could return to work with a smile on my face thanks to the company of a couple of lovely ladies. Great floor dances from Tommy and Italy. Check 'em out if you get the chance.
Looks like times are still good in the local clubs...
There's a club in town that features dancers with gorgeous hardbodies. If you're into the voluptuous, full-figured woman, then go to TD's West. There you'll have your pick of the wasp-waisted, apple-bottom, slightly pudgy female pulchritude. I'm not being critical. I like that type myself once in a while, but not as a steady diet. But, if you want hardbodies who know how to entertain you, then there is another club in town where the women are drop-dead beautiful and they have bodies that have been sculpted into pleasurable physiques. It's obvious these women know how to take care of themselves and their main asset. And, they know how to take care of the customers. Their VIP room could very well be the best in town when considering the talent, ambiance, and services. Yes, I did say that. (Other popular Tucson clubs can claim two of the three criteria.) Sexhobbyist recommends the "Club With No Name," hereafter known as CWNN. Senior members can PM for details including dancer names and bonus material. The dilemma is to name the club and have it become another swamp like CS (sigh) or to keep it discreet and enjoy the experience without the carnival atmosphere. I'm willing to share with notable senior members who have exhibited discretion.
Sexhobbyist
[QUOTE=Sexhobbyist]I'm willing to share with notable senior members who have exhibited discretion.[/QUOTE]Hot shit! That's me! I ain't ashamed if you get a glimpse of little LL as he is sliding into the dancers twat... So I guess that makes me an exhibitionist--just like SH said. Plus, I use almost all of my discretionary income for ho's...
It's been a busy two days.
AP- Visited Agua Prieta Monday night. The usual fare at the Flamingo. "Nossy" FS GFE and tons of motivation to go along with it.
CL- Used Craigslist or was it TucsonBackPage and called Coby. She's a young, nice, thin & attractive latina. Went to here house, one that she is sharing with several other providers (trashy place in OK neighborhood). We went straight to her room and discussed the donation $$. The fact that she was drunk and high, along with the filth of the place led me to offer $. She refused and I made my get away.
CS- Headed directly to THE CS, and arrived just about the time the lunch crowd was leaving (1300), had a few 2 for 1 drinks, reviewed the working girls, and tipped a few dancers on stage. I must say that there was one girl in particular that caught my interest. She was give table dance of the likes I'd never seen before. HOT HOT HOT She had more moves than any lady I'd ever seen. Twisting, turning, humping. All the while shoving & grinding her tight little snapper into some POOR guys face. I wanted to rescue the fellow monger, but alas he was destined. I kept waiting, hoping, hell even praying that she'd give the poor guy a break so he could come up for air, and maybe just maybe I'd get to be her next victim. As it turns out, the guy out last me and my two, two-4-one rounds of drinks.
As luck would have it, while I was at the bar getting my third round of Diet Cokes, I was approached by S*l*n*. Attractive, hard-bodied, dark-headed gal. She must have recognized my SexHobbyists designer attire (easy access shorts with shirt-tail hanging out), as she took the necessary hand-on approach that indicated to me that we NEEDED to go the VIP. NOW!
She lived up to my fullest expectations, and had I been grading her performance, she would have received an A+ with extra credit. Afterward, I was a little surprised when she asked if I wanted her phone number.
I had a VERY (exact) experience the week prior with B*l*a. Performance and phone number.
SH, once again, thanks for sharing. It works if you work it, as they say.
I must concur with Chica on S*l*n*. I happened in last week and hadn't even been served my beer before she was in my ear, on my lap, up my shorts, and in my face with "let's go to the VIP, right now! ". Whoa! Talk about service with a smile. She's amazing. I was just sorry I didn't have more time. Well. Not that I *needed* more time, but a second trip to the VIP could have been fun! But then, I guess we can't all be SH.
[QUOTE=Amorist1]I must concur with Chica on S*l*n*. I happened in last week and hadn't even been served my beer before she was in my ear, on my lap, up my shorts, and in my face with "let's go to the VIP, right now! ". Whoa! Talk about service with a smile. She's amazing. I was just sorry I didn't have more time. Well. Not that I *needed* more time, but a second trip to the VIP could have been fun! But then, I guess we can't all be SH.[/QUOTE]
Senior members know that I have been recommending S*l*n* for years (and without the asterisks). She is one of only a few on my "MUST try" list. Enough said.
Sexhobbyist
32 daytime dancers at CS on Monday.
40 daytime dancers at CS on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday.
Variety is the spice of life.
Variety keeps Sexhobbyist happy. And busy.
Went to TDE today. Great dances from Sierra, Destiny, and Sugar. Destiny was especially good although the others came through with their usualy quatlity. Had a great time, would recommend checking it out.
I flaked out on the job today and spent some of the afternoon at the CS.
The lovely and amiable Amie was in attendance. Had a few dances there to warm me up. Absolutely beautiful lady, Amie is.
Rosie the door lady came by and I finally got that little sweetie lady in my lap. She has the most marvelous, smooth, skin. Nice dancer verruh nice oh yes...
I sat and drooled after Hennessey all afternoon but she is one busy lady. One of these days I'm gonna get to slurp on those nice bolt-ons.
I had lots and lots of dance offers. I tried to stick with what I know does work.
I was driving to CWNN on Friday when one of my regular fs dancers from another club called me to say she was horny and needed me. After listening to her beg me for it, I got horny for her as well since it had been about ten days since we last connected. She's one that fucks me because she wants to and not for any money. So I redirected the auto to the other club, met the sweet young thing in the VIP and we went to town for three climaxes (her) and one for me. Right after she left, another of my fs/gfe dancers who was also in the VIP with a customer came over to sit and talk. She was watching me fuck the other dancer and it got her all horny, too. After about twenty minutes she began stroking the equipment and got me all hot and bothered again. We started a make-out session which got things elevated even further until she climbed on my lap and began to have her way with me. She's always a fun dancer to play with because she'll let me bury my face in her pussy, finger her a**hole, fuck her in the ass, face fuck her, whatever. This time, we had a great gfe where she was into dick worshipping. Then she mounted me and got herself to climax twice. She was literally done for the day so she left me alone, got dressed and went home. So there you go; two fs dancers, total cost about $25 for VIP entry fee and dancer drinks. Compare that to Nogales. I love it when the dancers get horny and I'm on their speed dial.
Next time I'll make it to CWNN where I'm developing the same kind of relationships with the dancers there.
Sexhobbyist
I was on the west side of town around noon or so and decided to take in the sights. Well TDW was first since it was lower cost. Well as mentioned before they got some big butts. This is fine but all the girls today, all 4 of them, had the same body. 5'8" or so, 150 to 160 pounds, decent tatas but they just didnt make my mouth water. I did see one girl give a good dance so I figured WTF and got a table dance. Dance was okay but nothing special so out the door I went. Next stop Curves. Very cute little blonde spinner waitress came up and took my order and I told her I hadnt been here in a while and what were the costs of dances. $10 on the floor and $20 in the VIP, the open couch area is VIP now too so no more discounts. Then a beautiful 30 something latina with a great accent, better ass and nice attributes asked me if I wanted a dance. Well one on the floor and off to the VIP we went. We went around to this little back section that is fairly secluded and we were alone and she was wonderful. Didnt score the SH FS on the first try but she was attentive to my needs, took my hands and put them where she needed them and all in all had a great 4 dances. I will cultivate this one as I loved her personality as we talked afterward. Told her I needed to go back to work and she walked me to the door, kissed me good bye. As close to GFE as I have had in a club. Oh she did say that they had cameras in the VIP area, and she kept her body in front of mine so she could be discreet.
After an outstanding day at the CWNN yesterday at which a fs double-header was part of the fun, I decided to return to an old favorite club today. I wasn't disappointed. As soon as I arrived, a gorgeous Latina who I've known for a long time and who only dances for me about once a year came by and started playing with my crotch while sitting in the chair next to me. It wasn't long before it became obvious that I appreciated her attention. She encouraged me to go to the VIP. It took only seconds for her unzip me and whip out the center of attention. In my limited experience with her in the past, I've gotten great hj from her and I knew she was capable of much greater thrills. She definitely knows what she's doing. The problem is, she's very popular and has guys waiting in line for her attention. I admit that she's got a smoking hot body that she obviously takes care of and that she is an expert at her specialty. Today she got us both excited enough that she wanted to fuck. I whipped out my condom, but she didn't want to use mine. She pulled a large Magnum out of her purse, but when it was too small to fit, she went running from the VIP room in a flash. I wasn't sure what the heck happened so I was concerned that I had done something terrible to her. After a minute she came running back in panting and said that she had to get an extra large Magnum from her locker before the moment passed. She dressed me and slipped me in for a super nice ride. Afterwards she confessed that she broke up with her boyfriend and was horny and that she really liked my dick and wanted to experience it more. This from a woman who could have any dick she wanted (and probably has!). We sat and talked a while. Evidently she liked my dick enough that she wanted my number and we scheduled a real date. While all this was going on, our own Juicy Amie was keeping an eye on us (chaperone!).
My new-found lover left and I was sitting alone in the VIP when another dancer I've been getting it on with came in because she was in there earlier when I was with my first dancer. She saw the dancer leave the VIP and promptly came in and planted herself on the couch and asked me point blank if I had sex and used protection. I don't talk to the dancers about what other dancers do so I said that I always use protection, as she knows. She remarked cattily that she sees my previous dancer in the VIP with a lot of men doing the nasty deed. I said that some women just want a little attention and that sex isn't the only thing on their mind. That seemed to quiet her jealousy because she began to play with me. I don't know what it is, but she must emit an invisible chemical that gets me hard no matter how spent I am. We noticed that we were all alone in the VIP so, without asking, she pulled out my dick which was now hard and mounted me. She was already wet so I slipped right in. She rode me like I've never experienced her before. Without prying eyes, she turned into a wild woman and kept climaxing time after time and she wasn't bashful about it either. My pants were soaked from her cum. I mean saturated soaked. She is by far the wettest woman I've ever known. Squirting, oozing, wet everywhere. After finishing with me she went and changed and came back to the VIP where we sat and talked for a while. I got the sense that she was excited about the idea of another woman pleasuring herself with my dick because it really set her off on a coital rampage. I'll have to talk to her about doing a threesome soon.
Thinking I was done for the day, but not yet completely satisfied, I left the VIP and sat near the stage where an ex was sitting by herself. She happily greeted me and we talked for about twenty minutes then she said that she was horny because the last time she had sex was with me about two weeks ago. Since she is one of the best sex partners I've ever had, I couldn't resist her offer of a trip to the VIP. In all my years of experience, I've learned not to turn down a dancer when she is horny and is asking for it. In my case it means more free sex. By now the VIP room is full and we claim the last couch. She warmed up with the usual dick worshipping then climbed on. It didn't take long for her to climax the first time. She really didn't care who saw us. As it happens, Juicy Amie was also witness to this rampaging vixen's ravaging of me. My dancer and I have a long history and she knows what to do to get me to explode. It doesn't matter how little sperm remains, she always finds a way to get it out of me. And she did this time, too.
So, a double-header at the CWNN on Monday and a triple-header at old familiar territory on Tuesday. Something to be thankful for this holiday.
Sexhobbyist
[QUOTE=Sexhobbyist]After an outstanding day at the CWNN yesterday at which a fs double-header was part of the fun, I decided to return to an old favorite club today. I wasn't disappointed.
So, a double-header at the CWNN on Monday and a triple-header at old familiar territory on Tuesday. Something to be thankful for this holiday.
Sexhobbyist[/QUOTE]
Sheesh bro.. your DFR is much higher than mine! I can do 3 per day tops and have to space them out a bit.
Let's all pause for a silent moment of reflection! :-)
As mentioned in an earlier post, I had a fs double-header at the CWNN on Monday. I went back today (Wednesday) to follow-up and to dip my wick again with one or more of them. I entered the club and it was as if a chill came over the place. The dancers ignored me. The waitresses who know me and with whom I have friendly banter ignored me. It was as if I had the plague or something. I was there for about 30 minutes and nobody was talking to me. My two fs dancers from Monday were all over the place giving table dances everywhere but around me. My other fs dancers weren't there. After some effort I finally got one of Monday's fs dancers to sit next to me and talk. It seems that after I left the club on Monday there was a huge fight over me that involved a lot of dancers and waitresses. Unbeknownst to me was that the two dancers I had fs with on Monday are best friends. (Yeah, you can see it coming.) It seems that after I left, the two best friends noticed that I had spent a lot of time with each of them in the VIP. They compared notes. As it was described to me, hair flew, glasses broke, all hell broke loose. A couple of the waitresses tried to break it up. One of them (who I tip generously for intel) actually tried to defend my honor. It seems that a settlement was reached between the best friends. The agreement is that neither of them can take me to the VIP. They can only give me table dances. Nuts! The dancer that was telling me all this slipped me her phone number on a napkin and told me to call her because she wants me anyway and that we can get together outside the club.
So, fellow mongers; live by the sword, die by the sword.
Needless to say, since I wasn't getting any at the CWNN today, I left and went to the club I visited on Tuesday where I had the triple-header. That wasn't a good idea either. My first dancer from Tuesday is a dynamite hottie who is always in demand, but when I arrived, she was sitting alone. I asked her why she was alone and she said that nobody wanted her. She indicated for me to sit in the chair beside her. When I did, she began playing with my crotch and she perked up immediately. And so did I. She invited me to the VIP and, since I was now in a state where I was not going to be denied something carnal, I agreed. Once in the VIP, she got comfortable and began talking instead of dancing. I was a bit flustered because I suddenly realized this sweet thing was telling me that she wanted me to be her boyfriend. It was like a marriage proposal but without the ring. Now, keep in mind that I barely know her other than one fs session the day before. I asked her why she wanted me to be her boyfriend and she rattled off a whole bunch of reasons, but the three that caught my attention were that I had a black dick (yes, she did actually say I have a black dick even though I'm the whitest guy in the club). She explained that my dick was bigger than the black dicks that she liked. Next, she asked me if I was ever in a porn movie because I had a porn dick. (Yeah, I know. Those of you that know me are now rolling on the floor laughing your asses off.) I explained that, no, I've never been in a porn flick. The third thing she said that caught my attention was that if I became her boyfriend she would satisfy me twice a day, every day. ("I promise. I want to fuck you all the time. I want that dick to be mine!") In return, her only demand was that I never come to the club when she was working. I'm now thinking that this might not be a bad arrangement since I've established myself at other clubs in town and don't really need to come to hers; especially if she's taking care of my sex needs. She rattled off about a dozen other features that were meant to impress me so that I'd agree to be her boyfriend. (She has her own house, her own money, she can cook, etc.) I told her that I'd think about it and, as if to seal the deal (in her mind) she whipped out Mr. Happy, began sucking on it, then covered him with one of her condoms (damn, why won't she use mine?!), jumped on and rode me like she owned the equipment using three different positions. She's a surprisingly nice kisser. She asked me how old I was and I told her that I was old enough to be her father (she's 22) and she seemed to think that was terrific.
I have to admit, she's impressive and a damn good sex partner. The fact that every guy drools over her is a bit of a turn-on. The fact that every guy gets some from her is not so much a turn-on. Oh, yeah, did I mention that she promised that I'd be her only lover? She would be fun to have in my rotation twice a day, but then I'd have to give up my Female Pimp and all the happiness that she brings to me (literally). I'd have to narrow down my fs dancers to just those that couldn't live without me when they got horny. I don't know. It's a tough decision, but I'm not going to partake of her offer just yet. I am going to string her along for a while because I like the sex and I like the fact that she's enamored with me enough that she wants me to be her boyfriend. Maybe I'll test her to find out just how much she's willing to do to get me to be her boyfriend. We have a real-life date coming up soon, so I'll see how that goes.
Dancer management lessons for Wednesday.
Sexhobbyist
A Good read.. although SH has his bases covered
I think. (as far as the $ situation goes)
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So you want to date a stripper?
by Greg Bruns
So you got a stripper's phone number, huh? Called her up and chatted about this and that and had a nice little conversation with her, huh? What's her name? Cinnamon? Going out with her for lunch on Saturday, eh? Very Nice. Here are a few tips — because dating a stripper is a hazardous affair and the only thing you're going to get out of this insane ride are bragging rights for the rest of your life. This article is based on information gleaned from my brief stay in Stripperville.
First of all, you've got to have a destination in mind before you embark on this venture. What do you want from the Stripper? A few fun evenings out on the town with a little hottie on your arm? Sex? Free passes to the Titty Bar where you met her? Everlasting true love? Handjob? Look — walking into this without a goal is certain means for failure, because she operates on her own terms and if you let her manipulate you and lead the show, you're sunk. She meets 50 guys a night who are potential dates, so she's just playing the odds with you. She's thinking she just might meet someone who can handle her, but no one can. Trust me. No one can handle her. You'll never change her or pull her out of Stripperville. Remember that and keep your eyes on the prize.
Several points to consider:
1. You're not Special.
You're one of 18 guys she's juggling right now, and one of a hundred who witness her naked glory every night. It's her job to make guys feel like they're the only one she's interested in. She gets paid handsomely for that skill. That sultry stare she's giving you across the dinner table with those piercing green eyes is the same look that forces 75 men-a-night to fumble for their wallets and jam fistfuls of green into her G-string even though they're six months behind on child support.
2. She makes more money than you. Get used to it.
Keep in mind that she pulls down more than most corporate attorneys (who also represent a large portion of her clientele). She's ripping 2-5K a week tax-free, and you shouldn't expect her to pay for anything. It's not in her nature. Guys fawn all over her every single night and offer her stacks of crisp Benjamins in an effort to get their knobs slobbered on in the parking lot behind the club (something she'll claim she's never done, but the other girls at the club have — right — she's done it at least once).
3. If you get emotionally involved with this girl, you're in for a hurricane of pain.
Your future with this chick: broken dates, shattered windows, holes punched in doors, a slew of ex-boyfriends and husbands, a thousand "friends" calling all the time, an encyclopedia of restraining orders she has out on said exes and a couple customers who stalked her for six months. Her apartment is littered with soggy G-strings and cheap 8-inch heeled shoes, along with empty tubes of body glitter, mascara, prescription drugs, zit cream, Aqua Net and Polaroid pictures of her and her "friends" engaged in some drinking and dancing on St. Patrick's Day last year. The Polaroid pictures of her and her stripper friends getting nasty for the entire bar are still circulating around town because one of the guys she dated last month stole them out of her nightstand when he sensed the end was near and he wasn't going to be getting any more Cinnamon Love.
3. She has more guy friends than you had all throughout high school and college, collectively.
Sometimes they'll just drop in when you two are hanging out and you're thinking it might get romantic. The guy friend will ask her — right in front of you — if she wants to go to Happy Hour at the Knick Knack Paddy Whack Lounge and she'll look at you with bright eyes and say, "Yeah — let's go to Happy Hour with Tim here — it'll be fun!" And you, still gripping on to that glimmer of hope for some pussy, will say yes and you'll spend the next three hours in a simmering rage while you quaff watered-down Bud Light drafts, because she's the most popular girl in the bar and every person with a penis in there is looking to hop on the Stripper Wagon that is blazing through Stripperville at a very unsafe speed.
All of those "guy friends" started out just like you, chief. They saw the Promised Titty Land and thought they could get there, too. Once they tired of the bullshit and drama, or she found someone else, they were relegated to "friends." They could've bought a fucking sailboat with all the money they blew on young Cinnamon, and now they hang on to some last vestige of hope, thinking that she may just get drunk enough some night and let them put their spit on the slit. You guys could all get together and swap the exact same stories about wasted nights, full-blown disappointment, and confused, desperate whack-off sessions when you all found out that dating a stripper is no different than trying to debate Nietzsche with a Dalmation.
4. Her life is a flurry of activity selected at random.
This stimulates her sub-par self-esteem. At 10am she will be rocketing down the freeway at 130mph on the back of some guy's crotch rocket. By 1pm she's already at some different guy's house, swimming naked in the pool with him and his Great Dane named Robo. By 5pm she's doing "X" at some other guy's house, and from there she goes home for the five-minute shower and gets ready for work.
5. She'll blow you off for three dates in a row.
When you keep calling, she knows she has you. That Saturday night dinner and special room you've secured at the fucking Ritz will be vaporized after she tells you she's going to Mexico with some of her "friends." Her whimsical trip to Mexico will forever after be known as Cabo Wabo Orgy 2002, and you'll likely come across some digital pix of her fellating two guys on the beach in Cabo while you're scanning some amateur porn site on the Net.
It's a crazy affair, for sure, but just remember these do's and don'ts and you'll be fine:
DON'T ever call her and not announce your name. Her phone rings more than all of the lines at the New York Times combined. Don't put her in the precarious position of trying to guess your name. "Is it Steve? Rick? Mike? Dave? Javier? Justin? Michael? Chris? Matt? Juan? Adam? Alex? Roberto? Ed? Brian? Eugene? Tim?" She'll make it quite clear that she has many suitors, which excites her to no end, and puts you in a bottle of bourbon all alone by 9pm that night. Try to sound upbeat: "Hi Cinnamon, this is Greg, I was just walking through Tiffany's, looking at a $900 sterling-silver ashtray and thought of you." (She smokes. They all smoke. She'd gush over an ashtray from Tiffany's. Don't buy it, though. Make her think you would've bought it for her, if only there was a rose engraved on it.)
DON'T ask her about her fucking tattoos unless you want to look like one of her customers.
DON'T go see her at her job unless it's absolutely necessary. A necessity would be getting her condo key so you can go feed her cat. If you get to that point, FYI, you're now one of her "friends," and you can wrap up the sexual fantasies you have of her by beating off right on her pillow after you throw the cat some Meow Mix.
DON'T try to keep up with her. Don't skip work to spend the day with her. She works nights and you work days. Keep your job. Her days are spent at tanning booths, Frederick's of Hollywood and chic outdoor cafés where her and her stripper "friends" eat poached salmon salads with dressing on the side.
DO carry lots of hundreds in a money clip. Make sure she sees you strip off the bills when the dinner check comes. Or better yet, whip out the Corporate Amex and toss it on the table like you're folding a bad poker hand. Clasp your hands behind your head and lean back into your chair after you make the Amex toss, as if to say, "See that? Unlimited credit, baby."
DO kiss her on the cheek when she shows up at your place for the nice dinner you're going to cook her, and knock her fishnets off with your ability to handle the cuisine and wine. At some early point in the evening though, you're going to have to find her cell phone in her purse and steal the battery out of it, because that thing will ring incessantly and she will eventually find something or someone better to do. Pull the battery or she's going to get some call at midnight, when you've got the Miles Davis playing lightly in the background, and the candles illuminating the room in a soft glow and you think you're about to "storm the beach." This call will undoubtedly be from one of her "friends" who is going to an after-hours party at some country bar and all of the sudden she'll squeal with delight and jot down the address on her hand and say to you, "Let's go Two-Stepping at the Country Bunker with John and Kevin!"
DO remember this: strippers are more fucked up than The Who was during their 1973 U.K. "Quadrophenia" Tour. They're a bad lot to hang out with, because there's so much freedom and money in Stripperville. They've got it all and they don't need you or anyone else. All they need is their Xanax and Raspberry Stoli on the rocks and their job. Yeah — the job. That's what fuels the lifestyle and you're never going to pry her from it. Don't even suggest it.
If your goal from the aforementioned list is "sex," you need to understand that it's going to take at least five dates. At least. Figure $250 per date. Compound that and it's a nice little used Hobie Cat or a decent house payment. While that fine body, devoid of tan lines, might fuel you to the fifth date, I'd recommend looking into escort services in your area. With an escort, you're getting what you want right off the bat, and it'll likely cost you half of what Cinnamon is charging.
Good luck in Stripperville. It'll be a short stay, but something you'll talk about for years to come.
AZ Dude,
Thats a real funny report, I truly enjoyed reading it, especially since most of it is true.
Hi all,
Just came back from CS. All I can say is that I am not a Vrgn of the clubs anymore.
Seniors PM for details.
TPlayer
There used to be a lady at CS caled Daizee. She was from Nogie, I think. She has this most wondefruls set of Bolt ons that remind me of 55 Caddy Tittie bumpers.
I espied her at TD's West last week. She still won't get in my lap. However, she was working the VIP room there quite heavily.
Az Dude: Wise words. I wrote something similar in my "Sexhobbyist's Guide to Strip Clubs, part 3" post back in January (see below).
[QUOTE=Sexhobbyist]Sexhobbyist's guide to strip clubs, part 3: advanced subjects
Dating
You will be tempted to ask the dancer if she does private shows outside the club. Don't ask. If she does, she'll find a way to let you know if she thinks you're a viable customer. She'll ask for your phone number, for instance. Exchange phone numbers. If you make a date, be sure to keep it, because she is arranging her schedule around you. Take extra clothing, toiletries, and money.
I qualify the following remarks by saying, "it has been my experience...."
Not all dancers are as I describe in the following remarks, but it's been my experience....
Remember that dating exotic dancers/strippers in the traditional sense is a little thornier than usual. They have many complications including their volatile backgrounds, their love and devotion to the Benjamins, their lack of confidence, and their constant need for reassurance about their looks and intelligence. (Yes, you've just stumbled on the way to get what you want from a dancer.) It's been my experience that if you have a good job and show some respect for them and their profession, you will do well. But, and this is a big "but," do not date a dancer unless you are fully confident in your own sexual abilities or if you are even a smidge jealous. Do not date a dancer if you have an old-fashioned masculine need to take care of a woman. Do not date a dancer if you want a girlfriend with any sort of future. And finally, do not date a dancer unless you are mentally prepared to ride the same emotional roller coaster as a woman with "habits," self-esteem issues, and more money than she knows what to do with. Not all dancers are that way, but you're going to waste a lot of time, effort, and emotions trying to find the gem that may never materialize. Again, this has been my experience.
Dancers are not obligated to go out with you just because you've seen their naked breasts. If, by chance, hell freezes over and you are asked out, consider yourself to have a mixed blessing bestowed upon you.
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I've had plenty of experience dating strippers. Each time it's a unique experience (good AND bad) that I learn from. I'm not so much interested in dating this new potential regular as I am in converting her to a full time freebie. As cock hungry as she is, she just might take the bait and become part of my regular stable. That's the goal. I'll see how the date goes and play it from there.
In the meantime, the dancer from CWNN has contacted me and wants to get together next week without the overseeing eyes of her best friend so, I'll be auditioning her as well. And, as if not to be left out of the picture, my Female Pimp has set me up with a cutiepie tiny spinner (a wisp of a girl) that I believe a strong gust of wind would blow to the border. I'm not sure where my FP found her, but she's gorgeous and in my short introduction to her I can see she's got the right attitude. This one is destined for greatness and I'm anxious to get her trained. She didn't balk at my equipment so....let's find out if good things come in small packages.
Sexhobbyist
[QUOTE=Sexhobbyist]let's find out if good things come in small packages.[/QUOTE] Dude, [post=590204]absolutely wonderful[/post] things cum in small packages!!! Remeber to put the spinners on little LL's lunchtime menu!!!
LoveLOS
[QUOTE=LoveLOS]Dude, [post=590204]absolutely wonderful[/post] things cum in small packages!!! Remeber to put the spinners on little LL's lunchtime menu!!!
LoveLOS[/QUOTE]
I've been scouting out the talent for you in preparation for your visit. I will only recommend those I've sampled personally ;-P
Yesterday I had a tiny little thing that I wrote about a day or two ago. She was so tight and tiny that I could only fit half way in. Alternatively, she had no gag reflex so she got the job done. She's one that I'll be done testing by the time you get here. ;-) Maybe. Perhaps. We'll see. Yeah, okay, I'll be done by then.
Sexhobbyist
Visited several clubs in Tucson last week. Stopped by TD West a lunch time one day. Had one couch dance and was not impressed. Warned by bouncer that no touching was allowed. It was freezing in the club and quickly left.
Also visited TENS. Good looking club but few dancers on a Friday afternoon, Saturday afternoon was a little better.
Had a $2 Steak Dinner and a $3 beer at Curves on a Saturday night. This was great value. Didn't have any dances.
The Candy Store was my favorite. Shiloh gave the best table dances, better than many VIP rooms. I didn't go to the VIP with her but wish I had. She never tried to upsell me to the VIP. Stacey also gave good floor dances and is a good choice to take to the VIP. Was wearing shorts and these dancers took advantage of the opportunity.
Squire Kent
Well guys, I finally took the time to visit CS. I fly into Tucson frequently, but typically head straight to Nogales to visit friends there. Yesterday I decided to not be in a hurry and stop by CS.
Once I got there I immediately began searching for our very own Juicy Amie. I found her pretty quickly and we sat and talked about various topics. I had a couple of great dances from her as well. Friends, when you visit CS, please take time to speak to Amie and get a table dance or two from her. She is quite pleasant to chat with, is very sensual, and she takes time on here to file reports that help us all as well. As it so happens, she is quite the 'tour guide' as well, answering all my questions about the dancers I saw.
I had dances as well from Julia and Deja (sp?), both in the VIP. All in all, I had a great time and am going to try to go back again this week before I have to fly out.
Made a stop at the CS on my way into town last night. Boy am I glad I did. Had a few floor dances from one of my favorites at night, Rosie and then we retired to the VIP room. Left once again as one satisfied customer.
D Dog
Many forum members who have not reached "Senior Member" status are PMing me for info. I am happy to share information, as you senior members know. But it has always been my policy to only divulge information to senior members. I do this for several reasons that I've explained in previous posts. Here it goes again.
Since the information I share can get lots of people and businesses in trouble, I make an attempt to screen the recipients. Becoming a Senior Member is one of the criteria I use.
As a senior member you've had an opportunity to post and we've seen the level of your dialogue to understand whether you are discreet, knowledgeable, and respectful of the hobby and its participants. From your track record of postings we can see your patterns, narrative style, and content to be able to have an idea if you are law enforcement. Also, when you've reached senior level, I've had an opportunity to interact with you via PM and/or by meeting you. Once that happens I can feel comfortable sharing my information because I know and trust you.
Another reason I only share information with Senior Members is to prevent the lurkers from gumming up the works by using intel to mess up a good thing for others who contribute to the hobby by sharing info with me. Many times a fellow hobbyist will share information with me with the provision that it not be shared with other, unqualified members.
I'm sorry if my standards sound harsh, but this method keeps me, the clubs, and the dancers out of trouble. So, no amount of begging, pleading, or bribery can get me to fork over my intelligence if you've not, at a minimum, reached the Senior Member status. I had to do it. I had to be patient while I earned the trust of other forum members. You can too.
I look forward to sharing information with all of you once you've become qualified. It's not hard to do. Just participate in the hobby and tell us about it. Keep visiting the clubs and post your experiences (judiciously and not too explicitly). Build up your credentials with your postings.
I'm sorry, but that's the way it is.
Sexhobbyist
[QUOTE=Sexhobbyist]Many forum members who have not reached "Senior Member" status are PMing me for info. I am happy to share information, as you senior members know. But it has always been my policy to only divulge information to senior members. ....[/QUOTE]
Well I am impressed with your policy statement!
I am sure, that as a result of your accomplishments and postings, that you must suffer a deluge of requests for pm info.
Your clear definition of PM qualifications is impressive and I applaud you for that.
Take care
DN
[QUOTE=Sexhobbyist] It's not hard to do. Just participate in the hobby and tell us about it. Keep visiting the clubs and post your experiences (judiciously and not too explicitly). Build up your credentials with your postings.
I'm sorry, but that's the way it is.
Sexhobbyist[/QUOTE]
Well said..
I get lots of requests as well, esp from folks asking about specifics (will she do BB, MSOG etc:) also the specifics as to exact tip amount and such.
First off.. I generally dont like to report the gory details or exact tip amounts to the forum. Secondly, esp if you're not a Sr. poster, I dont know you from Adam (even if you're a Sr. I still most likely dont know you that well)
No BB save maybe for the occasional BBBJ. Never for doing the deed, in this day and age, too many nasty things you can pickup!
Not posting much recently because there's lots of action that has kept me busy. I've received PMs from members asking how things were going with the stripper dating. She's been living up to her promise and has kept me satisfied every day. Another dancer friendly to me and her has warned me to back off because my stripper has some stability issues. I'm beginning to see what she's talking about so I've already decided this relationship isn't going to last forever. The sex is great so I'll stick with it for a while longer until things get strange.
I was able to do a "hit-and-run" with one of my waitresses today at a local club. I may have been spotted by a forum member so the identity of my waitress may be in jeopardy. Hopefully not.
This past week at CWNN had an event that I've never experienced before. While it was happening, it became apparent there was some behind-the-scenes planning that made it happen. I've officially become a man-*****. My dick is the official cock of CWNN. I was literally tag-teamed by four dancers in the VIP room.
I had gone to the VIP room with one of my favorite dancers who wasted no time getting me hard so she could mount me and get herself off. She finished and told me to wait. I saw her talking to another dancer on the floor who came to the VIP and mounted my still-hard dick without saying a single word. She rode me hard until she climaxed a couple of times then left me sitting alone still unsatisfied. I was about to get up when a third dancer came in and pushed me back on the couch, unzipped me, reached in, massaged my dick until it was once again hard and climbed on. She could see that I was still ready for more action so she told me to wait. When she left the VIP, she whispered something in another dancer's ear who came straight up to my couch and gave me the most luxurious bj I've ever had. She mounted me RCG and rode me a few minutes until she turned around and gave me CG and some DFK. With my dick in her hot pussy, the passionate kissing made her cum all over the place. I was almost ready to cum as well when she asked if I wanted to fuck her in her ass. Just the thought of doing it made me cum in her pussy. There was nothing left for me after I emptied my sperm tank.
It turns out these dancers had been talking amongst themselves and had set this up to spring on me the next time I came in the club. It's only luck that I had an adequate supply of condoms. I was told that they came prepared just in case my inventory ran out. The entire event cost me the price of my drink and the VIP admission fee. The rest of the afternoon was free. I wondered if there was a fifth dancer waiting for me if I hadn't climaxed with the fourth. I have to admit that I was a bit honored by the special privilege and the unmistakable cooperation of the four dancers. One of the fs dancers was a first-time fs experience for me so it was a special treat. I now know that there is an ass available to me if I want it and that a couple of them are a gfe.
I was told that this was a special occasion and not to expect this treatment again. It was an initiation. They designated me the "official club cock" which, I guess, is like being the club mascot but with better privileges. But I'm happy knowing that I have four fs honeys available to me if I want them.
As always, ymmv (understatement).
Sexhobbyist
I seldom read here since I can't participate, sure wish I didnt now...