BBFS Providers Manhattan

Serena Santos no go on BBFS; she's currently in NYC until Monday for 600/ hr. Rather new into the porn industry with a recent scene on Bangbus.

Anyone know about Katrina Jade? She's at 1500 but seems to be managing her own account / emails.

[QUOTE=KingOfFours;4045107]Who pays 1500 to 2000? I've raw-dogged Chenin Blanc, Dana Hayes, Kelly Leigh, Sammy Banks, Nastaya Simmons, Shasha Chanel (now retired), Harmony Heart, Briana Wildman, in LA and Vegas, and I never paid more than 400. In fact, many of those were around 250 or 300. In some cases, videotaping the session was included in the price.

But I agree, just because they are well-known porn stars with films of them getting inseminated online, that is not reason enough, alone, to select them over well-reviewed unknowns. But with "porn stars", you can, at least, see them in action beforehand, and that is worth something. I've found that most of the time, they do indeed perform pretty much just as in their films.[/QUOTE]There used to be a list floating around TER about porn stars that could be had for under $500. That list is obsolete now. A lot of them having retired. But yes, a lot of "porn stars" are available for under $1000. These are porn stars that generally have less than 50 films to their credit. Once a porn star starts to become popular, and does more films, her fee goes up to the $1000-$1500 range. Those are ladies that have done 50-100 or so films. After that, the price goes up. The stars that have done 200 or more films generally charge about $2500 or more. In other words, the more films she's done, the more she gets for escort work. Other types of fame will drive up the cost too: Isabella Soprano used to be available for about $500/ hr at the BunnyRanch in Nevada until Dennis Hof featured her on his HBO series and then she went up to about $1500/ hr. Alas, she retired before I had a chance to see her, or to find out actual fees.

This is all generalities though and there are plenty of exceptions. But, if you want to figure out how much a particular porn star is likely to ask for a date, check [URL]IAFD.com[/URL] and see how many films she's done. The more films, the more you can expect to pay.

My first porn star, BTW: Micky Lynn who still charges $250/ hr. .

[QUOTE=MrFrench;4046085]I've almost never had a second date with a porn star (my choice. I like variety) so, yes, the BBFS, when it happened, was on the first date.

You'd be surprised what will set someone off if they are having a bad day.

But, anyway, remember, that porn star I mentioned that freaked out? She didn't freak out because I asked for BBFS. She just turned me down and told me why. She also wouldn't do BBBJ, or even dfk. I was very disappointed by all that because this was a major hottie in the 80's and the subject of many of my wildest fantasies. So, I was having trouble getting hard and started stroking myself. She wasn't facing me at the time, saw out of the corner of her eye my moving my hand around my cock. And she accused me of trying to take the condom off to fuck her against her wishes (something I'd never do). She freaked out and it went downhill from there.[/QUOTE]Sometimes they catch something and get burnt badly then they stop. I had a regular BBFS at kiss kiss pop few years back and one day she said she not doing BBFS or BBBJ anymore. I got the memo LOL.

[QUOTE=MrFrench;4046085]I've almost never had a second date with a porn star (my choice. I like variety) so, yes, the BBFS, when it happened, was on the first date.

You'd be surprised what will set someone off if they are having a bad day.

But, anyway, remember, that porn star I mentioned that freaked out? She didn't freak out because I asked for BBFS. She just turned me down and told me why. She also wouldn't do BBBJ, or even dfk. I was very disappointed by all that because this was a major hottie in the 80's and the subject of many of my wildest fantasies. So, I was having trouble getting hard and started stroking myself. She wasn't facing me at the time, saw out of the corner of her eye my moving my hand around my cock. And she accused me of trying to take the condom off to fuck her against her wishes (something I'd never do). She freaked out and it went downhill from there.[/QUOTE]I'm tempted to ask for that now not that I would do it.

Isn't it awkward to ask for their papers?

Damn. Sounds like some really bad communication right there. How do you handle bad dates when that happens?

[QUOTE=MrFrench;4046098]I think Madison Ivy is available through TheLuxuryCompanion and Adonia is far more reasonable in terms of screening (or at least used to be). Anna Bell Peaks can often be found on cam sites like MyFreeCams. You can always book a private with her, talk with her, and discuss your desires with her directly. I don't think either of them do BBFS though. In fact, I'm pretty sure Anna Bell will shut you down if you ask but I could be wrong.[/QUOTE]Run that last bit by me again. What did she do that made you so sure about that? And I take it shutdown means blacklisting huh. Don't want that and don't want to offend / make anyone uncomfortable either. I just want to fulfill a fantasy real quick, nbd.

[QUOTE=SpaspaHunter;4046221]I'm tempted to ask for that now not that I would do it.

Isn't it awkward to ask for their papers?

Damn. Sounds like some really bad communication right there. How do you handle bad dates when that happens?[/QUOTE]Sounds like she crashed hard. Reminds me of one of my ex's manic episodes. You might dealt with bipolar on an off day? Who the fuck knows. I assume you got out pretty clean MrFrench?

[QUOTE=AQuietExit;4045358]Gave the assistant your line. No negative response but no details either. Guess I'll find out soon enough.[/QUOTE]At that point I would just flat out ask if BBFS CIP is on the menu (unless you want to see the star anyway even if it isn't). If you've already provided verification info and told them you're D / D free and have papers to prove it, they know you're not LE and they know you're serious.

Either they'll answer you candidly and tell you what's available and what isn't or they'll terminate the convo or they'll warn you about explicit talk and threaten to terminate the convo. Adonia at TLC will tell you to pick some providers and she'll find out for you.

Personally, I don't do guessing games or surprises and I've had LONG but polite arguments via email with some providers or their agents until they just flat out decided to speak with me over the phone.

Again, civility, kindness, decorum, and respect are key. Don't lose your cool. They understand that you're looking to make sure you're getting what you pay for and nobody wants misunderstandings in the bedroom. But you've got to be willing to spend a little time getting them comfortable with you before you can be straightforward about what you want. It varies with each provider and agent. Some are VERY straightforward like Chennin Blanc, Lacey Duvalle, Sexy Vanessa, and Kiki Daire. But they're also older and with the exception of Chennin Blanc charge A LOT.

Some who work through agents like Nicolette Shea (NO BBFS but BBBJ according to her assistant BTW as an FYI) aren't going to be so straightforward. You have to use your discretion, feel out the situation, and know that you can always take your money elsewhere.

Again just my experience.

[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4046562]At that point I would just flat out ask if BBFS CIP is on the menu (unless you want to see the star anyway even if it isn't). If you've already provided verification info and told them you're D / D free and have papers to prove it, they know you're not LE and they know you're serious.

Either they'll answer you candidly and tell you what's available and what isn't or they'll terminate the convo or they'll warn you about explicit talk and threaten to terminate the convo. Adonia at TLC will tell you to pick some providers and she'll find out for you.

Personally, I don't do guessing games or surprises and I've had LONG but polite arguments via email with some providers or their agents until they just flat out decided to speak with me over the phone.

Again, civility, kindness, decorum, and respect are key. Don't lose your cool. They understand that you're looking to make sure you're getting what you pay for and nobody wants misunderstandings in the bedroom. But you've got to be willing to spend a little time getting them comfortable with you before you can be straightforward about what you want..[/QUOTE]I appreciate the hell out ya for this. I misspoke when I said I got no negative response but no details either. I meant that I didn't get shutdown or blown up for asking but I was warned off of explicit details. I'm going to post up what I said so you.

This is how this part of the convo went.

[QUOTE]Me: I am looking to spend an hour for the first meeting. I'm D&D free and have recent tests to prove it. I would like to know if Shay has any rules or requirements I should be aware of before we meet? Thank you.

Shay's Agent:
We dont discuss any explicit details but she likes good hygiene if that helps. Holly😊

Me: That's never a problem with me. Anyway thank you so much. You've been very helpful and I look forward to seeing her when she comes to NYC. Have a good one.[/QUOTE]If I hear "no explicit talk" that's my cue to shut up and color. The way I figure it, this is one I'm TOFTTing anyway because I always wanted to see Shay Sights. She's one of my favorites. Worse comes to worse, I come correct, get told no BBFS, have my fun and get a reference out of it. Then I try my luck with someone else.

I appreciate the headsup with Nicolette Shea. Definitely skipping her. Hope Madison Scott has no issues with that.

Also Uncle Thrax, let me know what your take is on that snippet of email convo.

[QUOTE=AQuietExit;4046600]Also Uncle Thrax, let me know what your take is on that snippet of email convo.[/QUOTE]Ok, so that would have been a game ender for me.

I would have stated something like, "I understand and respect your boundaries. However I'm looking for some very particular services and if I can't be assured that they'll be offered prior to making the appointment then I'm not simply interested in going forward. It would be greatly appreciated if there was some way, perhaps via phone conversation or text, that we could resolve this. If not, I'll simply move along thank you for your time. ".

BUT, since you want to see Shay regardless and would apparently be fine with TOFT, what you did was fine.

I would suggest following some of Me Frenchs pointers. Bring your papers with you and try to see what she'll say.

Also, in my general experience with women, if you're gentle (unless they tell you that they specifically like rough play) and you go down on a woman well enough, for long enough, they'll forget their own names and will be begging for you to fill them up.

That goes with quite a few porn stars too. If you can afford it, that's why it's sometimes worth it to do a few hours. They're people just like anyone at the end of the day. In any service industry, you get what you give, whether you're a provider or a customer.

Whether she's a porn star, escort, SA girl, or a regular girl you met in your normal life, treat a woman right, she'll almost always reciprocate
Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4046997]Ok, so that would have been a game ender for me.

I would have stated something like, "I understand and respect your boundaries. However I'm looking for some very particular services and if I can't be assured that they'll be offered prior to making the appointment then I'm not simply interested in going forward. It would be greatly appreciated if there was some way, perhaps via phone conversation or text, that we could resolve this. If not, I'll simply move along thank you for your time. ".

BUT, since you want to see Shay regardless and would apparently be fine with TOFT, what you did was fine.

I would suggest following some of Me Frenchs pointers. Bring your papers with you and try to see what she'll say.

Also, in my general experience with women, if you're gentle (unless they tell you that they specifically like rough play) and you go down on a woman well enough, for long enough, they'll forget their own names and will be begging for you to fill them up.

That goes with quite a few porn stars too. If you can afford it, that's why it's sometimes worth it to do a few hours. They're people just like anyone at the end of the day. In any service industry, you get what you give, whether you're a provider or a customer.

Whether she's a porn star, escort, SA girl, or a regular girl you met in your normal life, treat a woman right, she'll almost always reciprocate
Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]That helps a great deal. Thank you so much.

[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4046997]Ok, so that would have been a game ender for me.

I would have stated something like, "I understand and respect your boundaries. However I'm looking for some very particular services and if I can't be assured that they'll be offered prior to making the appointment then I'm not simply interested in going forward. It would be greatly appreciated if there was some way, perhaps via phone conversation or text, that we could resolve this. If not, I'll simply move along thank you for your time. ".

BUT, since you want to see Shay regardless and would apparently be fine with TOFT, what you did was fine.

I would suggest following some of Me Frenchs pointers. Bring your papers with you and try to see what she'll say.

Also, in my general experience with women, if you're gentle (unless they tell you that they specifically like rough play) and you go down on a woman well enough, for long enough, they'll forget their own names and will be begging for you to fill them up.

That goes with quite a few porn stars too. If you can afford it, that's why it's sometimes worth it to do a few hours. They're people just like anyone at the end of the day. In any service industry, you get what you give, whether you're a provider or a customer.

Whether she's a porn star, escort, SA girl, or a regular girl you met in your normal life, treat a woman right, she'll almost always reciprocate
Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]That's a great way to put it. Almost meme-like haha.

Coincidentally I was eyeing Kiki Daire but damn if you're saying she's over charging her fame I'll wait or pass.

Just super curious because one of her porn she was saying she has no cervix.

[QUOTE=Intenseez;4046116]Serena Santos no go on BBFS; she's currently in NYC until Monday for 600/ hr. Rather new into the porn industry with a recent scene on Bangbus.

Anyone know about Katrina Jade? She's at 1500 but seems to be managing her own account / emails.[/QUOTE]I haven't seen her myself but before she became a pornstar, Katrina was an upscale provider and she used to offer bb as stated in her ads, had to provide papers from what I recall. The strange thing about her back then was that you had to meet her bf before seeing her, for her safety.

Probably not the smartest move but I enjoyed calling keith / chloe out when dude emailed me talking about "not too confident college kids can afford the appointment. " He got livid when I was like no worries keith, accused me of being a weirdo fanboy, threatened public blacklisting etc. He shut up after I followed up and made it clear I knew his deal and to not contact me again.

No worries gents, I kept it generic. I just fucking hate anyone who beats on women. That shit don't make you a man and neither does living off them. Let me know if I actually need to worry. Otherwise fuck it, it was worth it.

[QUOTE=DudeNJ;4046158]Sometimes they catch something and get burnt badly then they stop. I had a regular BBFS at kiss kiss pop few years back and one day she said she not doing BBFS or BBBJ anymore. I got the memo LOL.[/QUOTE]In this particular case, she had "gone sober and clean". She was a heavy drug user at one point and a major alcoholic according to a former colleague and friend of hers. She had gone into rehab and came out clean. And not doing anything that involved any exchange of bodily fluids of any kind. It really was a shame because I booked a date with her some years earlier, and the date got cancelled because she had just gone into rehab at that point. I wish I had seen her before the rehab; she probably would have been a lot more fun.

[QUOTE=SpaspaHunter;4046221]I'm tempted to ask for that now not that I would do it.

Isn't it awkward to ask for their papers?

Damn. Sounds like some really bad communication right there. How do you handle bad dates when that happens?[/QUOTE]It is awkward to ask for their papers but if they are asking you for yours, they should be able to reciprocate. One of the nice things about TTS is that they give you an online link and code so you can call the tests up right on your electronic device of choice and view it, or show it to someone else so the papers are there if you someone needs to see them. At least that's the way they did it the last time I got tested by TTS which was about 10 years ago. Since then I've had my own doctor do it because if something does turn up (God forbid), I can get immediate treatment.

[QUOTE=AQuietExit;4046256]Run that last bit by me again. What did she do that made you so sure about that? And I take it shutdown means blacklisting huh. Don't want that and don't want to offend / make anyone uncomfortable either. I just want to fulfill a fantasy real quick, nbd.[/QUOTE]I don't think she'd blacklist you but she'd probably stop communicating and there wouldn't be a date.

The reason I say that is just her general attitude and demeanor when I talked to her at Exxxotica. While I didn't try to set up a date, or talk about BBFS, she was pretty cold when I brought up the subject of "dating a fan".

Of course, it could just have been me. I'm not the best-looking of guys and she might have thought "ew, go away". .

[QUOTE=AQuietExit;4046294]Sounds like she crashed hard. Reminds me of one of my ex's manic episodes. You might dealt with bipolar on an off day? Who the fuck knows. I assume you got out pretty clean MrFrench?[/QUOTE]See my explanation in another post. Essentially, I got out clean. But it lead to some back and forth on the now defunct porn star discussion board of TER. Before she went UTR. It was a whole thing. It led to her demanding that they pull the review I posted, and then claimed that I "outed" her because she was always UTR. The dickheads at TER put me on a month-long ban taking her side of it which was pretty fucking funny since she was claiming she was UTR just 2 days after posting an ad on the same discussion board.

[QUOTE=MrFrench;4047233]See my explanation in another post. Essentially, I got out clean. But it lead to some back and forth on the now defunct porn star discussion board of TER. Before she went UTR. It was a whole thing. It led to her demanding that they pull the review I posted, and then claimed that I "outed" her because she was always UTR. The dickheads at TER put me on a month-long ban taking her side of it which was pretty fucking funny since she was claiming she was UTR just 2 days after posting an ad on the same discussion board.[/QUOTE]Heard on all the posts you made so far. I got some drama to tell you about re: the perfection models shit, if you want to hear it. Waiting on a post mentioning it to be approved.

[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4046562]At that point I would just flat out ask if BBFS CIP is on the menu (unless you want to see the star anyway even if it isn't). If you've already provided verification info and told them you're D / D free and have papers to prove it, they know you're not LE and they know you're serious.[/QUOTE]Well, actually no, they don't know that you're not LE. LE have ready-made identities that look good on paper so that they can get into places undercover. This is one of the most common misconceptions in this hobby. That verification means not LE. Another common misconception is that once the guy touches you, or you touch him sexually, that you can't be arrested. Total bullshit. The cop can fuck any escort and then turn around and arrest her. Will it hold up in court? Maybe yes, maybe no. There are so many misconceptions about what cops can and cannot do and many people are pretty self-delusional about it. But, I have friends who are cops. And I know some of the stuff they've actually done. Hell, there was a local police department that actually ran a brothel for a year and THEN arrested all the girls and johns.

[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4046562]Either they'll answer you candidly and tell you what's available and what isn't or they'll terminate the convo or they'll warn you about explicit talk and threaten to terminate the convo. Adonia at TLC will tell you to pick some providers and she'll find out for you.[/QUOTE]That's one of the things I love about Adonia and why I recommend her so highly. She'll actually take time (if she's not too busy with a crunch) to find out what makes the client happy and will go out of her way to make it happen. I know some guys have been blown away after talking to Adonia because Adonia talked them out of seeing particular porn stars on the basis that they wouldn't be happy with her because they aren't compatible! Now, how many agents will talk a guy out of seeing an escort?? This is why Adonia has so much respect in the hobby.

[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4046562] Some are VERY straightforward like Chennin Blanc, Lacey Duvalle, Sexy Vanessa, and Kiki Daire. But they're also older and with the exception of Chennin Blanc charge A LOT.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure Kiki still does BBFS. I haven't talked to her in two years. She used to. Then she got married and left the hobby. Now I think she's divorced, and back in it, but I'm not sure if she's still as open. When I saw her at Exxxotica a couple of years ago, she had put on a lot of weight, too. As for fees. She was on the lower end. I think it was $800 last I asked. Definitely more than Chennin but a lot less than others charge.

[QUOTE=UncleThrax;4046562] Some who work through agents like Nicolette Shea (NO BBFS but BBBJ according to her assistant BTW as an FYI) aren't going to be so straightforward.[/QUOTE]Not only no BBFS but no GFE from what I'm told. FWIW, I saw her at Exxxotica and I wouldn't touch her. She looked very skanky. And mostly plastic. She was as shiny as a store mannequin. Definitely not my type at all. Oh, and I've heard her fee is $2500.

[QUOTE=SpaspaHunter;4047091]That's a great way to put it. Almost meme-like haha.

Coincidentally I was eyeing Kiki Daire but damn if you're saying she's over charging her fame I'll wait or pass.

Just super curious because one of her porn she was saying she has no cervix.[/QUOTE]I prefer what my father said: "Never treat a woman like a w h o r e, even if she is one. " Grin.

[QUOTE=SlyshyGuy;4047121]I haven't seen her myself but before she became a pornstar, Katrina was an upscale provider and she used to offer bb as stated in her ads, had to provide papers from what I recall. The strange thing about her back then was that you had to meet her bf before seeing her, for her safety.[/QUOTE]I've been a member of Adultwork for a while now since I travel to Europe occasionally and one of the things I notice is that a lot of the escorts there are now asking you to book a private cam session with her first. I don't know if it's just a scam to get you to plunk down dollars and she's never going to meet you, or if it's their way of making sure you're real.

[QUOTE=MrFrench;4047249]I've been a member of Adultwork for a while now since I travel to Europe occasionally and one of the things I notice is that a lot of the escorts there are now asking you to book a private cam session with her first. I don't know if it's just a scam to get you to plunk down dollars and she's never going to meet you, or if it's their way of making sure you're real.[/QUOTE]I dunno if the cam sessions are pricey but maybe little column a, little column b based on who it is?

[QUOTE=MrFrench;4047221]It is awkward to ask for their papers but if they are asking you for yours, they should be able to reciprocate. One of the nice things about TTS is that they give you an online link and code so you can call the tests up right on your electronic device of choice and view it, or show it to someone else so the papers are there if you someone needs to see them. At least that's the way they did it the last time I got tested by TTS which was about 10 years ago. Since then I've had my own doctor do it because if something does turn up (God forbid), I can get immediate treatment.[/QUOTE]I think that's what I meant. If you're offering her your papers that means that you're willing to take that risk without asking her for her status assuming that she's clean too. Not sure if she'd be offended by me asking for hers.

I'm tempted to TTS but unless they're specifically asking me for that like if I were a porn star it's pointless to pay extra out of pocket unless they're asking for it.

[QUOTE=MrFrench;4047249]I've been a member of Adultwork for a while now since I travel to Europe occasionally and one of the things I notice is that a lot of the escorts there are now asking you to book a private cam session with her first. I don't know if it's just a scam to get you to plunk down dollars and she's never going to meet you, or if it's their way of making sure you're real.[/QUOTE]I've seen some of the profiles on AW and I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were scams given how fake some of them appear. Here in NA, I'm also noticing providers using snapchat / facetime for verification and many of whom have some sort of premium membership set up via snapchat / onlyfans.

[QUOTE=MrFrench;4047246]Well, actually no, they don't know that you're not LE. LE have ready-made identities that look good on paper so that they can get into places undercover. This is one of the most common misconceptions in this hobby. That verification means not LE. Another common misconception is that once the guy touches you, or you touch him sexually, that you can't be arrested. Total bullshit. The cop can fuck any escort and then turn around and arrest her. Will it hold up in court? Maybe yes, maybe no. There are so many misconceptions about what cops can and cannot do and many people are pretty self-delusional about it. But, I have friends who are cops. And I know some of the stuff they've actually done. Hell, there was a local police department that actually ran a brothel for a year and THEN arrested all the girls and johns.

That's one of the things I love about Adonia and why I recommend her so highly. She'll actually take time (if she's not too busy with a crunch) to find out what makes the client happy and will go out of her way to make it happen. I know some guys have been blown away after talking to Adonia because Adonia talked them out of seeing particular porn stars on the basis that they wouldn't be happy with her because they aren't compatible! Now, how many agents will talk a guy out of seeing an escort?? This is why Adonia has so much respect in the hobby.

I'm not sure Kiki still does BBFS. I haven't talked to her in two years. She used to. Then she got married and left the hobby. Now I think she's divorced, and back in it, but I'm not sure if she's still as open. When I saw her at Exxxotica a couple of years ago, she had put on a lot of weight, too. As for fees. She was on the lower end. I think it was $800 last I asked. Definitely more than Chennin but a lot less than others charge.

Not only no BBFS but no GFE from what I'm told. FWIW, I saw her at Exxxotica and I wouldn't touch her. She looked very skanky. And mostly plastic. She was as shiny as a store mannequin. Definitely not my type at all. Oh, and I've heard her fee is $2500.[/QUOTE]Should I introduce myself to Adonia even if I might not be able to see any of the girls?

I believe Kiki is higher than that now.

2500 is crazy because shit she's rank 50 on Pornhub.

[QUOTE=MrFrench;4043357] KingOfFours: your tastes and mine seem to differ a lot. The leads you've given me in the past have never worked out. Either the numbers changed, or they weren't available, or they weren't my type. I won't be back in the Philly area for a while so maybe next time.[/QUOTE]There are SO many girls now that are either playing hard-to-get, or else are only advertising on the "civilian" dating sites, or else have become referral only, post-SESTA. Sorry the previous ones I sent never worked out for you.

But if you get up to Providence in the near future, I've got a mid-20's big natural tit little full-GFE cutie, who will rawdog for 100 hh, who is now UTR. At least 3 others have inseminated her recently, besides myself. Here are a couple pics. I can send face pics with tits, etc, and contact info, if you are going to be in Providence, if you want to contact me privately. She does have some minor stretch marks and her belly is a tad thicker than you might expect from the clothed picture I attached below. But that pic is from just last month. I do think she will be around for a while--she's younger than most of those I've found recently, and maybe she would be more your type?

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NVKuVCqFJE10AHXrQLMbhUy4nRo6l3e9/view?usp=sharing[/URL]

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TkmPqbjnjDkWgZ2VyYAcukzR3oIbP79W/view?usp=sharing[/URL]

LOL at paying 2500/2000.

Keep being an ATM machine for these ladies.

The porn companies don't even pay them that.

They pay them 800-100 which you can get at any 9-5 job.

But here you are paying them 2000-2500 because they appeared on pornhub and xvideo.

No go on BB. Adamantly refuses it but she did get scolded by Gaga on my way out for refusing BB with me. Angel was previously known as Daria. Greek is tight as fuck though for an extra benji.

[QUOTE=KingOfFours;4047818]There are SO many girls now that are either playing hard-to-get, or else are only advertising on the "civilian" dating sites, or else have become referral only, post-SESTA. Sorry the previous ones I sent never worked out for you.

But if you get up to Providence in the near future, I've got a mid-20's big natural tit little full-GFE cutie, who will rawdog for 100 hh, who is now UTR. At least 3 others have inseminated her recently, besides myself. Here are a couple pics. I can send face pics with tits, etc, and contact info, if you are going to be in Providence, if you want to contact me privately. She does have some minor stretch marks and her belly is a tad thicker than you might expect from the clothed picture I attached below. But that pic is from just last month. I do think she will be around for a while--she's younger than most of those I've found recently, and maybe she would be more your type?

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NVKuVCqFJE10AHXrQLMbhUy4nRo6l3e9/view?usp=sharing[/URL]

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TkmPqbjnjDkWgZ2VyYAcukzR3oIbP79W/view?usp=sharing[/URL][/QUOTE]Won't be in Providence any time soon. So, thanks but no thanks.

[QUOTE=HinesKarlton;4048162]LOL at paying 2500/2000.

Keep being an ATM machine for these ladies.

The porn companies don't even pay them that.

They pay them 800-100 which you can get at any 9-5 job.

But here you are paying them 2000-2500 because they appeared on pornhub and xvideo.[/QUOTE]You're paying for the '"celebrity" status. Truth be told, there are plenty of guys out there who will pay that much and more for an "introduction" to a hot celebrity that they've got a crush on. I know one guy who paid $10 K for an "introduction" to one of the actresses who was on the older version of Charmed (and no, I won't say who). Claims to have bedded her too but I don't know about that. In any case, some guys do think with their little heads.

As I've said many times, most porn stars are in the $1200-1500 range. You can sometimes negotiate down. And sometimes, if you're respectful and courteous, etc. You can get them to stay longer than the hour for no extra.

FWIW, porn stars negotiate contracts and have agents that have to get paid. So, they typically get paid anywhere from $1000 - $2000 per scene if they are an "established" actress with some getting paid more.

[QUOTE=HinesKarlton;4048162]LOL at paying 2500/2000.

Keep being an ATM machine for these ladies.

The porn companies don't even pay them that.

They pay them 800-100 which you can get at any 9-5 job.

But here you are paying them 2000-2500 because they appeared on pornhub and xvideo.[/QUOTE]You're just as much an ATM giving 300-600 or what not to your Russian eros girls.

Like MrFrench says, it's all about the celebrity status and as KingofFours mentioned, you can find porn stars that are more market rate.

Personally I just want to see some of my favorites stars and knock them off my bucketlist before I'm done with schooling and move onto whatever career path I want to go for. I'm not going to have time for that shit, or any of this hobby really, whenever I get there, so I'm just frontloading it now.

Does anyone know if Ashley does videos? Gina Rollins will give you a video session if you request it. I wonder if Ashely would allow it too. She sounds very submissive. So I'm thinking she might let it go.

[QUOTE=Chris93;4044925]I have to say she is to me she's the best BBFS provider and gives a decent message as well. It's 220 the hour she's a really lovely lady.[/QUOTE]Contact info, please?

[QUOTE=Kinosellis;4052209]Does anyone know if Ashley does videos? Gina Rollins will give you a video session if you request it. I wonder if Ashely would allow it too. She sounds very submissive. So I'm thinking she might let it go.[/QUOTE]You can ask her assistant Anna, but given that she actively models and competes under an alter ego, she probably doesn't want to risk any possibility of her identity as an escort getting out. So I doubt it.

She might be ok with it though.

I found her info on Twitter and have made some correspondence with her. She is touring NYC around the 15th and is confirmed open to BBFS cip upon her fetish. I'll try to schedule to see her and let you guys know how it goes. She is also from Philly, so can any of you guys that frequent the area confirm this.

Depending on how things are I may pay extra to record the session as a keepsake.

[QUOTE=Fenfen;4053628]I found her info on Twitter and have made some correspondence with her. She is touring NYC around the 15th and is confirmed open to BBFS cip upon her fetish. I'll try to schedule to see her and let you guys know how it goes. She is also from Philly, so can any of you guys that frequent the area confirm this.

Depending on how things are I may pay extra to record the session as a keepsake.[/QUOTE]What is the damage for the hour and is BBFS CIP extra (Total). Does she have any requirements. IE: test results. I have been eyeing her for a minute and didn't know she was open to BBFS.

I may have to see her if she does. Thanks for the heads up on this one.

[QUOTE=Fenfen;4053628]I found her info on Twitter and have made some correspondence with her. She is touring NYC around the 15th and is confirmed open to BBFS cip upon her fetish. I'll try to schedule to see her and let you guys know how it goes. She is also from Philly, so can any of you guys that frequent the area confirm this.

Depending on how things are I may pay extra to record the session as a keepsake.[/QUOTE]Please do, she seems like fun.

[QUOTE=Fenfen;4053628]I found her info on Twitter and have made some correspondence with her. She is touring NYC around the 15th and is confirmed open to BBFS cip upon her fetish. I'll try to schedule to see her and let you guys know how it goes. She is also from Philly, so can any of you guys that frequent the area confirm this.

Depending on how things are I may pay extra to record the session as a keepsake.[/QUOTE]She asks for a non-negotiable deposit though so if that's not an issue she seems like a gem.