Man, you've said a mouthful
[QUOTE=JaxTantricMan;2584831]You are exactly right, I haven't reported on many experiences for three reasons. One is because I've hit a dry spell of finding ALL the flakes and fakes on BP and CL, as I've reported. Secondly, the talent lately has been in my humble opine, awful and not much out there worth seeing anywhere in my various travels. Lastly, I've been med down, so thanks for the concern. Posts don't always have to be about seeing ladies in order to be useful.
Thanks for making my point about attacking the messenger.
And I for one and not going to get into a long winded back and forth in the Woodshed about anything so minor.[/QUOTE]I pretty much said some of the same things; the talent is a hot mess and sometimes we've had enough p-ssy to last a lifetime; however, still, there is a way to contribute and folks can benefit. Man, this shet can be expensive! Like throwing money in the wind!
Back to the woodshed-related topics.
There's only been a small handful of you who have chimed in on a topic I think most newbies (and maybe some seniors) can benefit from.
What is. In your experience. The most sensitive, transparent feeling, top quality condom on the market today?. And Why?
Thank you much to those who offered info on this. It is very much appreciated.
We have become a nation of scared pussies
[QUOTE=SkyWalker13;2587066]America has become so politically correct that people no longer think for themselves or even express emotion for themselves. I would not worry about it. You have a pretty good setup banging another mongers girl. I would start each session off with reading his transgressions and then proceed from there.[/QUOTE]If your escapae doesn't rile a few mongers up who maybe have thought their spouse is doing what they have been doing, then nothing will. Our biggest issue in this country is we are being sanitized, homogenized, just blended and whipped into one creamy colored bi-sexual oriented rendition of our former self. You can't say anything right or wrong about anybody unless a few million prople get their panties in a wad for doing the same thing they do themselves. You are cast as a racist, bigot, gay hater or 100 other names and looked down on as a terrible person. People whisper when they are talking to their drinking buddies for fear of being called out and dehumanized. I can understand pure slurs but wiping out and trying to change history for things that occurred 200 years ago is insane. When a transgender receives More national attention than our solders receive who are killed at home or abroad, when one type of group gets so hostile and pillages a town or towns, when similar unfortunate occurrences happens to the other side daily as well and recieves no national wire coverage and we all can go on and on, we have just won the war to the liberals who want to turn a once great nation albeit with issues to address, into a creamy pot of everyone is the same bowl of Sh"t soup. We aren't better for all of this, we have AlL lost our identity and have become pussies.
My last and final thoughts
While some of us are blessed with time on our hands, while medically recuperating and otherwise enjoying life, since we have no monetary needs to work mundane jobs, other of course don't have such open schedules. Then again, perhaps being on this board is part of my paid job? Funny thing about boards like this, you never know who is on them or why. There have been more than a couple of mongers who have stated things only someone with LEO connections would know, so are there LEO's on here? You remember the postings about warnings about the heat being turned up, that sort of thing, or maybe they just made it up, while sitting in their PJ's looking at tattered copies of girlie magazines?
This board is full of facts, fiction, thoughts, opinions, worries, stories, bullying, personal attacks, BS and funnies, that is, except for one monger, who I won't name, lest I get bullied about bromance, whose stories I know in my heart are 100 percent TRUE! I am sure many mongers on here have embellished their stories and postings, to some extent or another, as it's human nature. I for one have no such imagination.
If for one instance, any one who read my post about the mongers wife had their stomach tightened up or they got a cringe of guilt and worry, than perhaps it's because you haven't been as cautious and safe as you could have been. Do you clear the history, cookies etc 100 percent of the time, every single time you log off your computer, phone, Ipad, etc? Are you using an IP masker? Is your name, CC and address in the Ashley Madison data base? Not ALL mongers are SMART ALL the time. Is your alias one that someone who knows you well, like a SO, would recognize as being you? Something that relates to your normal life? Have you ever put out information in a post about your travels, work schedule, vehicle type, etc. That a SO would pick up on? Are you 100 percent sure someones SO, perhaps yours, perhaps someone else's, doesn't read this Forum? Do you think a SO might have ever staked out an AMP, Strip Club or well known Providers residence looking for her hubby, BF, or whatever they call it now a days?
Yes, I admit I am more paranoid and cautious than most, as that goes with my profession, which I have been actively practicing for well over 40 years and hope to continue to pursue for many years to come.
Believe it or not, it really doesn't matter to me whether or not you read, believe or otherwise benefit from anything I write.
I'll just enjoy the hilarity of it all and purse MY hobby as I SEE fit.
Perhaps we all should do the same.
No ned to worry about lack of respect.
[QUOTE=SkyWalker13;2587066]America has become so politically correct that people no longer think for themselves or even express emotion for themselves. I would not worry about it. You have a pretty good setup banging another mongers girl. I would start each session off with reading his transgressions and then proceed from there.[/QUOTE]I can probably speak for the silent, vast majority of mongers (and non-mongers) that your status as a multi-lingual non-native is much respected, and even envied. I call out respect for your wisdom and advice.
As for myself, I am very curious as to what was in your CL ad that gifted you with scorned wife revenge sex.
No, I am VERY curious. If the CL Whiffle bat will help us hit the BP curve ball. Then I would like to be in the club! How did your ad read?
Political rage is the new American religion. And
THIS is why I want to retire in a hut on an island in a peaceful Central American country. No taxes, cheap native girls, and a peaceful hippy philosophy shared by my fellow expats and natives. No overly righteous, puritan hypocrite top-collar-buttoned assholery.
My time in Central America really was an epiphany that changed the way I look at life.
NOW. Let's get back to sharing knowledge about safe sexual pursuit.
[QUOTE=JaxTantricMan;2587178]And some of us even know what that refers to!! LOL.
All good, just trying for some levity and to stop this nonproductive nonsense and move on.
Recces is it everybody, finish up the Brojobs, brush the dirt off your knees, pull your big boy panties up and get back in the game.
Adult activities wait those who dare.
It's a new day.
I've always wondered, with so much of the world hating Americans and wanted nothing more than for them to be destroyed, why do Americans hate each other so? In all of my world travels and living I have NEVER seen a populace so discourtesy, rude and hateful to its own, except the ones suffering from civil war or genocide. In a land that prides itself on Free Speech, those who practice it sure pay the price with bullying, hateful rhetoric and bodily threats.[/QUOTE]
There is nothing illegal about
[QUOTE=TankerJo3;2588140]Is it safe to ask specific questions about a massage or body rub? Like how much for a half hour massage. And do you or can you accept the donation after massage?[/QUOTE]
Asking the cost of a massage or body rub. There's nothing wrong with asking about the amount of time you're paying for with a provider. The line is only CROSSED when you ask for some form (not just intercourse) of sexual gratification. Like: you play with your p-ssy and I'll jerk off. Even though you never touched her, there is still some form of sexual gratification involved or at least the talk of it.
In most cases, LEO will say something that appears innocuous; very subtle but again, no matter how innocuous it appears, STAY AWAY from those conversations!
Really guys, you must learn what the actual law says about prostitution. It is either the conversation about or agreement or the actual act of paying for some sexual act with money or something of monetary value. If you offer a salad for some sex act, you're toast! Again, STAY AWAY from that conversation!
Re Stewie:
This is why this topic is so vital! When I first read his account on this particular thread, it had the sounding of someone who just showed up and got arrested. Well then I read over in the other thread "stay away" and he said the lady asked him something and he said "sure" or something to that effect. He indicated he said it without thinking. I'm glad he decided to add this very important piece of information because it is of paramount importance to this topic.
Here is what I mean: as I've stated above, LEO will say something that does not sound as overt or explicit like: you give me 60 and I'll jerk you off.
This is explicit!
This is not so explicit: you give me 60 and I'll start from head first then to toe, then I'll finish in the middle where you'll be very HAPPY. Again, this is very subtle and one can read other things into these type conversations; it's a conversation that is rife with innuendos and ambiguity but nevertheless, can be interpreted as doing sexual favors for money by judge and jury.
You see, in your head you might say I didn't say anything wrong BUT this is why I say you must inventory everything you're going to say in your brain before it comes out of your mouth because it is those subtle words that you thought nothing of that can jam you!
This was not a simple show up and got arrested incident; this was the ole usual trick played by LEO and they caused this gentleman a lot of grief! This is why I discuss this issue extensively so that you guys are armed with enough information to avoid such issues and embarrassments! Some may understand enough with little explanation but others must be provided with more information until it clicks in their brain. Once you get to the place where you notice something is AMISS while talking to potential vice, you had better find a way to get the HELL out of there before you have a Freudian SLIP!
I'm stating this one last for a reason and that is: Your EARS need to be EXTREMELY KEEN to EVERY single word that comes out of that provider's mouth and anything that even REMOTELY sounds sexual, LEAVE!
You are very correct regarding state to state variations of the laws AND
[QUOTE=TallBear;2588765]Yes, it is indeed important to know what the laws say & even how they vary from state to state. Being smart & being careful while engaging in an activity that is really, let's face it, neither means that you do have to learn when & how to communicate your interests & desires.
For example, after your penis has been in her mouth, it is generally pretty safe to discuss her other orifices without fear of legal difficulties.
You're welcome.
And, on a no-shit, far more serious note, any of you legal beagles want to offer any perspectives on interstate commerce & how it applies to enjoying the hobby in a state in which you are not resident? For example, have you run afoul of interstate commerce laws if you are a Florida monger busted in Georgia or vice versa? The thought of the feds wanting a piece of this action really makes my blood run cold. They have skills & resources far beyond those of JSO.
There's a thought that'll wilt your pecker, sure enough.[/QUOTE]
I am glad you brought that up because I keep forgetting to add in my discourse that it does vary from state to state. My advice is to always research any particulars of any state you wish to play. For example, I tell the ladies and sometimes gents that if they ever desired to play in the state of NY, they are taking a huge risk. Why? Because in that particular state, if you ever got jammed up for solicitation and are found guilty, you can NEVER EVER get that record sealed- it's there for LIFE! At least it used to be that way and I haven't heard of any changes from that.
Here's another one, in the state of Cali, there is a law that works this way regarding SWers: say you are walking down any given street and a women is standing around, who obviously is a SWers (perhaps she dresses the part or something), there is a law on the books that says if LEO observes you stopping and talking to said SWer, they can arrest you for engaging in solicitation. I couldn't believe it myself but as you mentioned, one must be aware that the laws do vary from state to state. Even so, some counties might even have certain ordinances in place, like having a cut off time for visiting escorts. I haven't seen much of this but I heard it does exist.
As far as your question about the feds, they just did an FBI sting which netted some local gals on BP. It seems Darby may have been one of them caught up in that sting. Every now and then you hear about an FBI effort going on. Anyway, please note that much of what I know involves Florida and I apologize for not making that known. I will say that, for the most part, no matter where you go, that discussion of sex and money is the most common criteria used to determine if prostitution laws have been committed.
Speaking of the dangers of prostitution investigation
Take a look at this story that happened in Brevard county:
[URL]http://www.news4jax.com/news/brevard-deputy-critically-wounded-in-shooting/34839900[/URL]
You've lost your mind fella
I said you were an ass hole a while back. Let me correct that. You're an idiot and apparently an insane asshole. Aren't we all so glad this wonderful forum allows us to be anonymous.
[QUOTE=JaxTantricMan]PTM,
No concern, it's not your SO.
JTM[/QUOTE]Stay out of my box, that's for you and YR. I promise I didn't need your confirmation about anything to do with me. Thought it would be funny to show the boys what a loser freak you are. Thanks for the PM, maybe you're actually starting to believe your own fairy tales? Goodbye JTB. I have all three of you blocked.
I could really care less if you block me fella BECAUSE HELL
[QUOTE=PTMonger;2589383]I said you were an ass hole a while back. Let me correct that. You're an idiot and apparently an insane asshole. Aren't we all so glad this wonderful forum allows us to be anonymous.
Stay out of my box, that's for you and YR. I promise I didn't need your confirmation about anything to do with me. Thought it would be funny to show the boys what a loser freak you are. Thanks for the PM, maybe you're actually starting to believe your own fairy tales? Goodbye JTB. I have all three of you blocked.[/QUOTE]Let's face it, I don't know ya! I don't intend to PM you and you're really not that important; really! Anyway, who cares!
Speaking of someone being an idiot: you made the comment that if I don't get a lady to spell out everything (sexually) she plans to do, bypass her. Now anyone who makes such statements is the REAL IDIOT! Yet you say you've been in this hobby for about 30 years and that's how you still operate! Now that's an idiot! Look in the mirror pete; shall I re-pete? Look in the mirror! Silly!