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[QUOTE=Redimac;1110003]Can you compare Warren with with your current experiences?[/QUOTE]I'd say it was about the same. A little friendler in Mississippi. I got a Christmas present in O. S. From one parlor. Girls about the same, table shower the same. Pricing about the same. Weather much nicer in Mississippi. More stuff to do while you are waiting to get your batteries recharged.
[QUOTE=Redimac; 1109992]Well for sure Houston has some nice offerings. Unfortunately, the very best are "houses" run by the Viets, think commercial office strip, girls in each room. Impossible to get past the door unless your arrive w / a known vn male. In past years, saw Houston police in marked cars out front. When I asked the answer was "oh no problem, man, they provide security." indeed. BTW, the action was light years ahead of Dallas.
Earlier in the year, someone here was explaining about similar setups in mexican neighborhoods, other cities. Wonder if there is something like that in mke?
Warren girls past prime? Well ok, everywhere in the states that's what you get. Need fresh? Head to asia for a fun boy trip. [/QUOTE]With the exception of NYC and Cali, I think Houston ranks a close 3rd. Lotta of great places, and quite a variety of ethnic back ground. The best luck I have had has been on the south side of Houston from Hobby airport West. Never been scared of Leo.
[QUOTE=LookingForLefty;1110070]I'd say it was about the same. A little friendler in Mississippi. I got a Christmas present in O. S. From one parlor. Girls about the same, table shower the same. Pricing about the same. Weather much nicer in Mississippi. More stuff to do while you are waiting to get your batteries recharged.[/QUOTE]I understood that was avail in warren.
[QUOTE=LookingForLefty;1110070]I'd say it was about the same. A little friendler in Mississippi. I got a Christmas present in O. S. From one parlor. Girls about the same, table shower the same. Pricing about the same. Weather much nicer in Mississippi. More stuff to do while you are waiting to get your batteries recharged.[/QUOTE]Visited Four Seasons Spa in Newton Falls outside of Warren today. I am sure you remember it Lefty. They gave me a card good for free door entry today after my visit for a Christmas present. Value would be 50. 00 or 40. 00 plus newspaper coupon. I last visited them in July so I was very happy.
Merry Christmas & Happy Mongering.
[QUOTE=Book Man; 1110491]Visited Four Seasons Spa in Newton Falls outside of Warren today. I am sure you remember it Lefty. They gave me a card good for free door entry today after my visit for a Christmas present. Value would be 50. 00 or 40. 00 plus newspaper coupon. I last visited them in July so I was very happy.
Merry Christmas & Happy Mongering. [/QUOTE]Yep that is one of the better ones. Just south off the freeway. Looks a little creepy on the outside. But the service is among the best in the area.
After some thought, I am retracting my most recent statements (12/23/10) regarding Rachel / Just For You Massage. Being disappointed, does not justify the hurtful and crude comments made about her. (Beside being a great artist) , Rachel is a sweet person who runs a legitimate massage offering excellent massages. I sinserely apologize for any upset I caused her or anyone else associated with her.
I agree PT, Rachel is a sweat heart. I noticed her "No Dating clients" policy on her web page. I can tell you (for reasons unknown to me) she'll drop you cold if she thinks you're getting too attached to her. Beautiful girl, wonderful heart, but keeps her clients at a distance. PM me if you'd like to chat.
[QUOTE=Ptbarnum;1111183]After some thought, I am retracting my most recent statements (12/23/10) regarding Rachel / Just For You Massage. Being disappointed, does not justify the hurtful and crude comments made about her. (Beside being a great artist) , Rachel is a sweet person who runs a legitimate massage offering excellent massages. I sinserely apologize for any upset I caused her or anyone else associated with her.[/QUOTE]
Spent some quiet time with Valerie from Water Street. She seems very demur and lady like. First visit was pleasant enough and I left pleased. The downside? She's very picky and particular about roaming, and protested about being sensitive. Second visit was a weird when she used a cellophane beauticians glove. I was dressed in professional work clothing and smelled decent, so why the bizarro hygiene? :P.
When I saw her, I double downed on the 4.0 door fee. This was before they advertised Tantric sessions at 1.25. Nice change from the usual backpage hustlers, but I'd expect more if I returned for Tantric. Would love to see more of those curves up close! PM me if you had more of a kings treatment. Happy New Year y'all!
[url]http://milwaukee.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/classifieds/EnlargeImage?oid=3646849&image=3646848[/url]
[QUOTE=Wi Nite Owl; 1113855]When I saw her, I double downed on the 4. 0 door fee. This was before they advertised Tantric sessions at 1. 25. Nice change from the usual backpage hustlers, but I'd expect more if I returned for Tantric. Would love to see more of those curves up close! PM me if you had more of a kings treatment. Happy New Year why'all!
[url]http://milwaukee.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/classifieds/EnlargeImage?oid=3646849&image=3646848[/url]
[/QUOTE]Here's a link to a review I left a couple of weeks ago.
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9368-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=1106791&viewfull=1#post1106791[/url]
I'd be willing to bet that Valerie knows zero about tantra as well.
I was reading about his issues and lawsuits regarding massage therapists. His texts to them wanting to hook up, etc. Well I think many of us know exactly what was going on. First I have no doubt the Jets hired therapists the players wanted. I doubt they hire any husky old ladies. Also have no doubt the therapists were star-struck and were all too eager to provide HE for the players, if not more. These guys have big money and tip big. Just here in Milwaukee alone, just think of how many Certified Massage Therapists we know with a degree and license, with a store front shop, provide us with HEs and BJs. Sometimes FS. Some are at health clubs and nail salons. How often have you sent a text, email or phone call to your favorite therapist and asked if she could see you tonight, right now, or later on? Because you need to get off. Sure its just business but its kind of fun to flirt, talk a little dirty with them. They go along because the like it and they want to keep you as a client. Maybe even have a relationship with you. Show of hands. How any of you have actually taken your HE CMT out on a date? I got my hand up. I doubt many of us are millionaire athletes and look at all the action we get. Just imagine being a pro football player and they have massage therapists coming in as part of the training. I think even the most professional conservative well intentioned therapist would have difficulty refusing a $1000 tip from a famous athlete she naturally likes doing it anyway. This story isn't going away because it most likely takes place at every major league sports team.
Brett's probably a good family man. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that he was only getting HEs. Just joked and flirted a bit. Wait how often was just a HE your intention and the next thing you know you got the therapist bent over the massage table and you are balls deep in her? Or she just bends over and sucks you off? We've all been there? Right after they show you pics of their husband and family too, talking about their vacations and such.
I think you nailed it, Lefty. When the lawsuit hits the day after the regular season ends you have to be suspicious. This is probably just the "way things are" in NFL locker rooms but suddenly there's blood in the water and two opportunists jump to find lawyers. Not to say Favre was in the right, just that there probably are 500 guys in the league who've done the same or worse. Anybody believe Roethlisberger never tried to play grab-ass with some cute girl working for the Steelers?
[QUOTE=LookingForLefty; 1115717]I was reading about his issues and lawsuits regarding massage therapists. His texts to them wanting to hook up, etc. Well I think many of us know exactly what was going on. First I have no doubt the Jets hired therapists the players wanted. I doubt they hire any husky old ladies. Also have no doubt the therapists were star-struck and were all too eager to provide HE for the players, if not more. These guys have big money and tip big. Just here in Milwaukee alone, just think of how many Certified Massage Therapists we know with a degree and license, with a store front shop, provide us with HEs and BJs. Sometimes FS. Some are at health clubs and nail salons. How often have you sent a text, email or phone call to your favorite therapist and asked if she could see you tonight, right now, or later on? Because you need to get off. Sure its just business but its kind of fun to flirt, talk a little dirty with them. They go along because the like it and they want to keep you as a client. Maybe even have a relationship with you. Show of hands. How any of you have actually taken your HE CMT out on a date? I got my hand up. I doubt many of us are millionaire athletes and look at all the action we get. Just imagine being a pro football player and they have massage therapists coming in as part of the training. I think even the most professional conservative well intentioned therapist would have difficulty refusing a $1000 tip from a famous athlete she naturally likes doing it anyway. This story isn't going away because it most likely takes place at every major league sports team.
Brett's probably a good family man. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that he was only getting HEs. Just joked and flirted a bit. Wait how often was just a HE your intention and the next thing you know you got the therapist bent over the massage table and you are balls deep in her? Or she just bends over and sucks you off? We've all been there? Right after they show you pics of their husband and family too, talking about their vacations and such. [/QUOTE]
A fellow hobbyist PM'ed me after my frustrations that I have posted, finding a HE from a CMT. So I decided to check her out. She works from home now so she required me to meet at the local Panera. I am pretty certain she thought I was a cop LOL. Some say I might look like one (if I got rid of my beer belly). That and she didn't recognize the referral.
We got to her place and she left for me to get set. I 'forgot' the towel like the fellow suggested and she went to town. She gives a great massage. Even climbed up on the table to really get some pressure on my back. I flipped over and she massaged my legs and thighs. I was enjoying it and that was clear.
I was waiting to see if she would go for it herself or if I needed to ask. She went from my thighs to massaging my stomach. I asked her to move a little lower on my stomach, knowing there was no way she would be able to without grazing the little guy.
I finally asked her if she could massage me 'here' as well, rubbing where I needed her attention. She told me she didn't do that anymore. She is seeing someone. Well just my damn luck! I think that it's probably her cop out if she is still a bit sketchy. I tell her I could give her an extra tip for Christmas shopping if she did and she says "we'll see." After massaging my stomach she goes to work. I ask and she lets me rub her ass through the tight yoga pants she has on.
Finally, after god knows how many tries, denials, letters from CMTs saying I had violated their policies. Visiting teases that led you on but never delivered, I was able to find a CMT willing to give a HE. I am debating if I should enjoy this provider or chase the rabbit and see if I can find a younger, better looking, better performing, CMT.
At least I know where to go if I need one.
Mkeguy,
After reading your comments, it reminded me of a post I left on the Chicago board. For those who don't visit Bears country, I'd like to repeat my posting over here.
How do you find an honest CMT, who will provide sensual care? After 10 years of enjoy professional massage, here's my experience. Once, I played cat 'and mouse on a first visit and it took her off guard. She stormed out. It was 45 minutes into the session. I too felt nervous, so I dressed, paid at the front counter, and left. If you inch the sheet down repeatedly, and she continues to adjust it, it's just too soon. It's better to find a friendly girl you like and play it out for more than one session. This way, you can blame the trial and error on a misunderstanding between friends. That's just a part of life.
How to avoid this in the first place? Take stock in how she acts towards you. If you see her a few times, and she still readjusts the sheet a little, you're just a friend and a client. Your rapport together should be solid enough to know if she'd be upset by sheet slippage. So how to you test those waters?
After a second visit, there's no harm in letting your dangling fingers rest against her shin or knee. If she doesn't move, it's a good sign. Make conversation about what makes her feel care free. Get to tell you a spirited story. Did she go nude over Spring Break? Loose her top at Mari Gras? Be playful and ask her to show you her hidden tats and piercings. If you're having fun, she's having fun. In time, those fingers will be on more than just calves.
In summary: RELAX (because that's what you're there for) and you'll blend into her vibe as a care provider.
[QUOTE=Mkeguy; 1118232]A fellow hobbyist PM'ed me after my frustrations that I have posted, finding a HE from a CMT. So I decided to check her out. She works from home now so she required me to meet at the local Panera. I am pretty certain she thought I was a cop LOL. Some say I might look like one (if I got rid of my beer belly). That and she didn't recognize the referral.
We got to her place and she left for me to get set. I 'forgot' the towel like the fellow suggested and she went to town. She gives a great massage. Even climbed up on the table to really get some pressure on my back. I flipped over and she massaged my legs and thighs. I was enjoying it and that was clear.
I was waiting to see if she would go for it herself or if I needed to ask. She went from my thighs to massaging my stomach. I asked her to move a little lower on my stomach, knowing there was no way she would be able to without grazing the little guy.
I finally asked her if she could massage me 'here' as well, rubbing where I needed her attention. She told me she didn't do that anymore. She is seeing someone. Well just my damn luck! I think that it's probably her cop out if she is still a bit sketchy. I tell her I could give her an extra tip for Christmas shopping if she did and she says "we'll see." After massaging my stomach she goes to work. I ask and she lets me rub her ass through the tight yoga pants she has on.
Finally, after god knows how many tries, denials, letters from CMTs saying I had violated their policies. Visiting teases that led you on but never delivered, I was able to find a CMT willing to give a HE. I am debating if I should enjoy this provider or chase the rabbit and see if I can find a younger, better looking, better performing, CMT.
At least I know where to go if I need one. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wi Nite Owl; 1118580]Mkeguy,
After reading your comments, it reminded me of a post I left on the Chicago board. For those who don't visit Bears country, I'd like to repeat my posting over here.
How do you find an honest CMT, who will provide sensual care? After 10 years of enjoy professional massage, here's my experience. Once, I played cat 'and mouse on a first visit and it took her off guard. She stormed out. It was 45 minutes into the session. I too felt nervous, so I dressed, paid at the front counter, and left. If you inch the sheet down repeatedly, and she continues to adjust it, it's just too soon. It's better to find a friendly girl you like and play it out for more than one session. This way, you can blame the trial and error on a misunderstanding between friends. That's just a part of life.
How to avoid this in the first place? Take stock in how she acts towards you. If you see her a few times, and she still readjusts the sheet a little, you're just a friend and a client. Your rapport together should be solid enough to know if she'd be upset by sheet slippage. So how to you test those waters?
After a second visit, there's no harm in letting your dangling fingers rest against her shin or knee. If she doesn't move, it's a good sign. Make conversation about what makes her feel care free. Get to tell you a spirited story. Did she go nude over Spring Break? Loose her top at Mari Gras? Be playful and ask her to show you her hidden tats and piercings. If you're having fun, she's having fun. In time, those fingers will be on more than just calves.
In summary: RELAX (because that's what you're there for) and you'll blend into her vibe as a care provider. [/QUOTE]Wi Nite Owl. You and I are pretty good at this game. I think you have more patience than me. I thank you for your help in keeping me from wasting time by your continued efforts in TOFTT. Still if I don't get what I want on visit #1, there is no visit #2. Obviously I like to have done my recon work beforehand so I know what to expect. I've TOFFT before and I've learned a few things. If her tits are bobbling out all over the place. You will probably get a HE (unless she's the one who is bringing you the magic massage from Los Angeles to your hotel or home).
If she is wearing high heels and short skirt or spandex. Expect a HE. If she is constantly grazing over penis or the boys, you will probably get a HE. I've had a few come out and ask permission to touch my penis. Thats kind of cool. If she has a deep voice and an Adams apple, you most certainly will if you haven't took off running with your clothes in hand down the street screaming.
I admire your dedication, Wi Nite Owl. Like Lefty, I give up earlier than you. Lack of overt sensuality within two visits and I am done with the girl.
I'm genuinely curious about a couple of things. Are the HE excellent in these situations, or just OK, or is the CMT obviously unhappy about the perfunctory HJ she gives to keep you as a legit client?
I get the thrill of the chase. Probably my greatest hobbying memory is getting a girl from an asian jack shack to meet me outside of work and the hot hot sex we had. But are the results from a CMT really worth it? When you factor in those early get-to-know-you visits, what are you paying per HJ?
Glad you found something that works for you, just curious about the results.
[QUOTE=Wi Nite Owl; 1118580]Mkeguy,
After reading your comments, it reminded me of a post I left on the Chicago board. For those who don't visit Bears country, I'd like to repeat my posting over here.
How do you find an honest CMT, who will provide sensual care? After 10 years of enjoy professional massage, here's my experience. Once, I played cat 'and mouse on a first visit and it took her off guard. She stormed out. It was 45 minutes into the session. I too felt nervous, so I dressed, paid at the front counter, and left. If you inch the sheet down repeatedly, and she continues to adjust it, it's just too soon. It's better to find a friendly girl you like and play it out for more than one session. This way, you can blame the trial and error on a misunderstanding between friends. That's just a part of life.
How to avoid this in the first place? Take stock in how she acts towards you. If you see her a few times, and she still readjusts the sheet a little, you're just a friend and a client. Your rapport together should be solid enough to know if she'd be upset by sheet slippage. So how to you test those waters?
After a second visit, there's no harm in letting your dangling fingers rest against her shin or knee. If she doesn't move, it's a good sign. Make conversation about what makes her feel care free. Get to tell you a spirited story. Did she go nude over Spring Break? Loose her top at Mari Gras? Be playful and ask her to show you her hidden tats and piercings. If you're having fun, she's having fun. In time, those fingers will be on more than just calves.
In summary: RELAX (because that's what you're there for) and you'll blend into her vibe as a care provider. [/QUOTE]