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[QUOTE=Malepig]Pandoras box on thier blogs decided to talk about all this.[/QUOTE]You know, in Texas I learned valuable knowledge summed up in the expression [i]when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging down.[/i] Wonder when she's going to threaten one/some/all of us with a libel suit? Yes, Pandora, libel is written, slander is spoken. Consult with your lawyers at Dewey, Cheatem & Howe for further details.
[QUOTE=Mrj Mrj]Um, you pretty much blasted RayRay for giving us a heads up on pricing in the market. He had no beef with you. He never even mentioned you. I would definitely say, you sought him out.
And don't you keep saying that people have a right to their opinion? Why can't he have one? Why can't everyone on this board have one?
Let me be extremely clear here. You could have posted a rebuttal, or even evidence that its not true. You know, things like reviews, people that can vouch for you. That would have been nice. Instead, you took a pious tone and you're mean-spirited. And actually, has anyone defended you? Where are all these clients?
And we get the semantics of your business, but no its not legitimate. Have you noticed that every other provider that was busted uses the same semantics? Quit the bullshit, please, quit the bullshit.
Or let me head you off at the pass. I know, I know. Your girls haven't been busted. Cause they don't do anything illegal, right? Ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
Thanks mrj , for seeing the truth. I got blasted, called names and harrassed from Pandora's Box for giving guys a heads up on this site on pricing in the market.I never had a beef all I was doing was stating my opinion on agencies vs Independents.She attacks me personally and then complains for me defending myself.
I didn't really want to write, because I generally have a different opinion than everyone else. Based on reviews and all. But maybe there's someone else out there that thinks like me, so hopefully you'll find this helpful.
I've lived in a few places, and have had a hard time finding the quality I'm used to since I moved here, so sorry if this seems too negative or picky. But this is the way I see it, point blank.
Angela Sweets. In jail now, rushed, quick, impersonal, never again
Kelly. OK, I really don't get this. Confused even. Some very reputable gentlemen have given her huge ratings. So wow, I don't know what to say. I didn't see it. Went twice. She is very kind, even a little sensual. But, she's not like bam! When I see numbers like 8, 9, and 10, it should be like miamicompanions or something. It should be on the level. I just don't see it. She doesn't have the body, face, or sensuality to be rated that high. Sorry guys. However, she has great TER reviews.
MonaLisa. Young, sort of ghetto cute, nice girl next door body with smaller breasts, which I can appreciate, really nice and personal, smiles, has amazing oral skills. Holy shit, has a potential to be late or unreachable, she is accommodating though, can hold a small conversation, tons of killer TER reviews, comes from new york, been out of the business about a year because of relationship, now lives here, lives with cousin and tries to keep it from her, so be discrete
Madison/Megan/Roxy/whatever. Young, cute, little bit of an attitude if you catch her on the wrong day, good kisser actually, another nice girl next door body, no oral, down to earth, sweet, nice smile, potential to not show or miss apointment, constantly changes numbers, name, and evidently rules, she is massage only now she states, hates TER reviewers but has one listed under Roxy from around February I think, I don't remember, look for it
Stacie. Another one I don't get, one of her TER reviews I agree with, and he was confused as to all the high ratings too, this lady is in her later 30s and is very accommodating and nice, but is too low class, orange cat stays on the bed, cat hair on bed, apartment smells like smoke, but she is somewhat sensual, very conversational, and again, this is a nice lady, but cannot put her above a 6 with those conditions/lifestyle and looks, this is not a top quality escort guys, but she is nice
Nikki (leeerotica). She's also young, and cute, and thin, but she's quick, all business, well, she has a little personality, she'll talk a little, but she's there to make a buck, that's clear, but she is nice and all, just doesn't get super into it, she's like take them off, and the she takes them off, that's just too quick for me
Ashley (leeerotica)- damn, have you seen her porno vids? Wild, anyway, she tried to go out of her way, she wanted to be sexy and do her thing, talk dirty to me, gave me a dance, and was generally sexy and made me feel comfortable, but she's not sensual, and that's kinda part of it for me, I'm more GFE than PSE, but she will try, and she may be someone else's thing, she's young, black, nice body, ghetto booty whooo!
Ashley. This is the other Ashley that's been here for a minute, she has a drug habit and is too thin, but she is super sweet, laughs, tells jokes, and can be very sensual if you catch her on the right day, she's very acommodating and will do everything possible to make meeting her convenient, she makes me feel comfortable, she's down to earth, but its obvious that you're with someone who struggles balancing life, and part of that high quality experience is being with girls who have it together, you know? Some confidence, ambition, ha! , maybe I'm dreaming, but no, I've found it before, more than once, atleast girls that seem like they have it together and have ambition and all
Stephanie (leeerotica). She's like 29 or 30, just started, not a top quality escort either, but for being a mom, new, and basically, if you group her in with the other local escorts, she somewhere between the middle and the top, she's not got a ton of skills, but she does make you feel comfortable, and does do just about everything, no anal though I don't think, and she's also acommodating, will talk to you, take her time, and beauty I'd give like a 5, but you know where my scale is now, so recalibrate if necessary, she's not unattractive, but I wouldn't call her attractive, hence the 5, she's tall, looks good in pants, and is personable and down to earth
Danell. No way she's GFE, however she's from the dallas area, I read reviews of her from when she lived there before she came here and they were incredible, I was stoked, she was all over her clients to hear them tell it, then I show up soon after she came here, she's not showered, she's in some terrible motel with construction, she's not personable, not shaved, not that sexy, wasn't mean or anything, was fairly nice, kinda quick, didn't really wanna be close, I got that feeling, but then I read reviews and other people had different experiences, and I was like what? ! , so I texted and emailed her about it, and she apologized and was very nice, so I don't know with this one
AshleyAngel69. She lives around north port, you can find her on escorts.com if you broaden the range that far, she has an upgraded membership, this girl is young, has a hair more weight than girl next door type, but I mean a hair more weight, she's not fat, I think she's sexy, sensual, a little crooked teeth, but they're white, and she'll kiss the shit out of you, slow and caring, conversational, acommodating, looks, probably a 7 cause she's young still, but she's definitely not bad looking, seen about three times, she wore boxers once, that was awesome, and will make out with you in her underwear, that's pretty kick ass too, I may be willing to go 8 on looks if she were ever dressed up, she has some kind of chemical dependency too, but she could hide it from you and you couldn't tell, she was traveling to fort myers to get doses of something from a clinic, so hey, atleast she's trying to break it or whatever, but she doesn't rush to disrobe, and will spend time you and treat you like a friend
There it is.
I just found this pic on the internet and recognized it from one of the girls that is posting on CL or travslist. Can't quite place it but know I've seen it.
I thought I would give CL another try yesterday. No luck as the posts were being flagged almost as soon as they went up. Unscientific observation on y part but the only listings that stayed up for any period of time were for Pandorasbox girls. Umm?
I am pissed that anyone thinks that they need to cheat to generate business. Let the market determine winners and losers. I will not see a fat, old or ugly girl because someone felt the need to flag all the good posts. I would rather go it alone then waste my time or money. Who wins then? Nobody.
So if you watch these boards and flag on CL: Stop! Grow up! Take Economics 101 and learn how to run a successful business!
Found it:
[url]http://fortmyers.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/gentlemen_s_top_choice_33/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1351257[/url]
It's Kelly. Some of her pictures are bullshit. Some of them are actually her. Look for the overall quality of the picture. If it looks professional, then bullshit.
[QUOTE=Mrj Mrj]I just found this pic on the internet and recognized it from one of the girls that is posting on CL or travslist. Can't quite place it but know I've seen it.[/QUOTE]
That pic was taken at Nikki Beach in south beach, I can tell by the white curtains and green wrist bands I almost certain unless there is a club like that in FT Myers which I doubt.
Mrj great reviews thanks but in my opinion I personally think TER reviews are easily manipulated by the providers. Travslist is new and its a place where the CL providers got tired of the flagging so they post there.
Overall This site is the best, For Jackson has the best reputation domestic and International. Thats why fake reviews and self advertising can be detected easily, for the guys on this site know bullshit when they see it.
Once again thanks for sharing.
[QUOTE=Rayray87]That pic was taken at Nikki Beach in south beach, I can tell by the white curtains and green wrist bands I almost certain unless there is a club like that in FT Myers which I doubt.
Mrj great reviews thanks but in my opinion I personally think TER reviews are easily manipulated by the providers. Travslist is new and its a place where the CL providers got tired of the flagging so they post there.
Overall This site is the best, For Jackson has the best reputation domestic and International. Thats why fake reviews and self advertising can be detected easily, for the guys on this site know bullshit when they see it.
Once again thanks for sharing.[/QUOTE]I don't know, man, I've seen some of the regular reviewers on TER and kind of follow it and all. There can definitely be fake reviews on there, I agree with you, but if you'll do a little research on the reviewers (I know I'm a nerd) you can tell if they've been doing it a while and write good reviews or not. Especially if they've only ever written like 1 or 2 reviews and only recently. You know its bullshit. But to be honest, I think its harder to decipher the reviews on Travslist, and there's generally less info. And like someone even said on the site, I see positive reviews at or around the time that the provider posts. Hmmmm? But I like the purpose of Travslist better than CL, because there's no flagging, and it seems more organized. Though, I think I'm seeing some bullshit ads on there too. What's up with Charlotte and Delilah. They both look fine as hell, but I've seen multiple times where they make email appointments (not phone) and never show. We have to be careful guys. Has anyone actually seen them? They're listed on escorts.com too.
And I have some requests while I'm at it:
1) Has anyone seen Kitten down in bonita? What's she like?
2) There seems to be a new agency a brewing on Travslist, with another chick named Kitten, and some other girls that could be hot. Anyone know anything about that?
3) What about that new Victoria girl on Travslist? I've seen her on CL I think but it all gets flagged so quick, I can't even remember. Also Jessie, Red, and Krisi on Travslist, what's up with them? Anyone
4) Now Jenna on Travslist. Ha. If it looks too good to be true. I'll keep an open mind though, there are some fine women out there. Damn she's fine. If anyone can vouch for her, do it. But that ad looks too good to be true. And she's not 22, I wouldn't think. But she's still fine.
[QUOTE=Mrj Mrj]I just found this pic on the internet and recognized it from one of the girls that is posting on CL or travslist. Can't quite place it but know I've seen it.[/QUOTE]That's Kelly's ass! I recognize it from one of her posts. I think that pic is posted on Travslist.
[QUOTE=Mrj Mrj]Kelly. OK, I really don't get this. Confused even. Some very reputable gentlemen have given her huge ratings. So wow, I don't know what to say. I didn't see it. Went twice. She is very kind, even a little sensual. But, she's not like bam! When I see numbers like 8, 9, and 10, it should be like miamicompanions or something. It should be on the level. I just don't see it. She doesn't have the body, face, or sensuality to be rated that high. Sorry guys. However, she has great TER reviews.
MonaLisa. Young, sort of ghetto cute, nice girl next door body with smaller breasts, which I can appreciate, really nice and personal, smiles, has amazing oral skills. Holy shit, has a potential to be late or unreachable, she is accommodating though, can hold a small conversation, tons of killer TER reviews, comes from new york, been out of the business about a year because of relationship, now lives here, lives with cousin and tries to keep it from her, so be discrete
Madison/Megan/Roxy/whatever. Young, cute, little bit of an attitude if you catch her on the wrong day, good kisser actually, another nice girl next door body, no oral, down to earth, sweet, nice smile, potential to not show or miss apointment, constantly changes numbers, name, and evidently rules, she is massage only now she states, hates TER reviewers but has one listed under Roxy from around February I think, I don't remember, look for it
Stacie. Another one I don't get, one of her TER reviews I agree with, and he was confused as to all the high ratings too, this lady is in her later 30s and is very accommodating and nice, but is too low class, orange cat stays on the bed, cat hair on bed, apartment smells like smoke, but she is somewhat sensual, very conversational, and again, this is a nice lady, but cannot put her above a 6 with those conditions/lifestyle and looks, this is not a top quality escort guys, but she is nice
Danell. No way she's GFE, however she's from the dallas area, I read reviews of her from when she lived there before she came here and they were incredible, I was stoked, she was all over her clients to hear them tell it, then I show up soon after she came here, she's not showered, she's in some terrible motel with construction, she's not personable, not shaved, not that sexy, wasn't mean or anything, was fairly nice, kinda quick, didn't really wanna be close, I got that feeling, but then I read reviews and other people had different experiences, and I was like what? ! , so I texted and emailed her about it, and she apologized and was very nice, so I don't know with this one.[/QUOTE]Mrj's reviews of the girls I've also seen are fair. Additional input:
Kelly. I don't get the 8s & 9s on looks & the 9s on performance either. I suspect some of her reviews are self-generated. Looks 7, Performance 7 (I could understand an 8 here.)
MonaLisa. Cute girl. The word "no" is not in her vocabulary. Her muscle control "down there" is exhilerating, as is her BBBJ where she makes sure you feel the back of her throat! Looks 7, Performance 9.
Madison/Roxy. I recently clarified that she is NOT Megan, who stood me up then accused me of being LE after I posted a warning to others on CL. Megan used one of Madison's pics so I thought they were the same girl. Madison called me & cleared that up. Since that time I have decided to see her. Will report.
Stacie. I thought she was attractive but as the night wore on her looks grew on me. If I rated the ambience I'd give it a 5. Looks 8 (I could understand a 7 here), Performance 9 (YMMV).
Danny/ Danell. My experience was horrible so I rated her a Rip Off. Other reviewers rated her looks average & performance poor. Definetly NOT GFE!She has one review using a new phn # that I suspect is fake that rated her highly. Avoid this one. Looks 7 (at best), Performance (if she doesn't rip you off) ???.
One other: Taylor of leeerotica. There's good to say about her but one over-riding factor is NOT good: after you finish, so is the date ... even if you're only 20 min into what you thought was an hour date. You're not paying for an hour but the time it takes her to get you to pop!
[QUOTE=Mrj Mrj]I just found this pic on the internet and recognized it from one of the girls that is posting on CL or travslist. Can't quite place it but know I've seen it.[/QUOTE]Doesn't Kelly use this pic in some of her ads? If not, it's similar. Her pics are VERY flattering or old (several lbs ago), if they are her at all.
I am amazed that these girls at least some of them get any business. The prices they want must be kidding. There are a few that may be worth it but there are Soooo many more HOT girls even thru CL in miami ft. L and wplm bch and tampa/saras. For Less and its not a matter of haveing the money to afford the hobby as some say (this whole debate with the guys about p. Box)
I don't have to worry about how much I spend I have no dependents and make a good living. I am not a millionaire but I live quite comfortable. At the same time I am not going to give money to a nasty skank just because I can afford to do so. Are you going to buy a car that has been driven so hard the oil"s all been burned out of and engine locked up, so it does nothing but "lay there" all ugly and rusted? I doubt it.
Hey TpN, read your PM please. I wrote that review you questioned on Danny.
My fav right now is April/Angel as she provides great service at a reasonable price.
[QUOTE=Malepig]Hey TpN, read your PM please. I wrote that review you questioned on Danny.[/QUOTE]Thanks for clarifying. My experience & that of several others was not so good. The odds are greater of having a bad date with her (if she shows up) or being ripped off by her than of having a good date with her.
Glad you had a good time.
I spoke with Kara yesterday and asked her about her association with Pandorasbox. She was unaware of the pseudo-drama going on on these boards. She said she hasn't worked for them for a while. She was also unaware that they were still using her pictures and would be calling them today to request that they not continue to do so.
Take this for what its worth.
Kara is a fun girl. So please don't let the board fight going on here to affect any of you seeing her.