Rants, Raves, and Stupid Tinfoil Hat Wearing Conspiracy Bullshit

[QUOTE=GetControl;3172967]What I can't stop thinking about is -- How did the killers get into the room? They had to have known them. I don't think they owed them drug money because if that were the case, they wouldn't have let them in the room. I think it was a robbery. I think that the two guys were friends of the boyfriend. I believe that Muneka and her Man had no clue that they had anything to worry about when they opened the door and let them in. I'm sure her boyfriend had a gun but no guns or drugs were reported being found at the crime scene. I think it's safe to assume that the killers took everything of value from them, including gun, before or after killing them. But, I don't think we will ever hear the true story and don't think the guys will get caught. There is not going to be a lot of energy from LE on solving the murder of a BP girl and her boyfriend.[/QUOTE]Too many unknowns but it's probably reasonable to say that the boyfriend new the two guys. Now, I believe this case will get attention because a) there are 5 other much nicer hotels nearby and this could affect their business b) this a young mother of three children so many people will be interested in this case. Luckily the two guys were not smart with the security cameras. Also a hotel guest immediately called the police when she heard the shots fired so the response time to the scene was quick. If these two guys escaped by car the outside security camera might have the image since that hotel has a single exit in front of the lobby door. Now Uncle stayed a long time and people were not allowed to enter or leave which tells me that they were thinking the two killers might have had a room in the hotel. Since, they have a photo; uncle can search DMV records and other databases to get a match. These two probably have a prior record because not just anybody walks through a hotel and guns down two people in their room.

[QUOTE=Purple45;3173278]Too many unknowns but it's probably reasonable to say that the boyfriend new the two guys. Now, I believe this case will get attention because a) there are 5 other much nicer hotels nearby and this could affect their business b) this a young mother of three children so many people will be interested in this case. Luckily the two guys were not smart with the security cameras. Also a hotel guest immediately called the police when she heard the shots fired so the response time to the scene was quick. If these two guys escaped by car the outside security camera might have the image since that hotel has a single exit in front of the lobby door. Now Uncle stayed a long time and people were not allowed to enter or leave which tells me that they were thinking the two killers might have had a room in the hotel. Since, they have a photo; uncle can search DMV records and other databases to get a match. These two probably have a prior record because not just anybody walks through a hotel and guns down two people in their room.[/QUOTE]An arrest has been made: [URL]http://abc11.com/news/police-arrest-suspect-in-fatal-raleigh-hotel-shooting/1635901/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Purple45;3173278]Too many unknowns but it's probably reasonable to say that the boyfriend new the two guys. Now, I believe this case will get attention because a) there are 5 other much nicer hotels nearby and this could affect their business b) this a young mother of three children so many people will be interested in this case. Luckily the two guys were not smart with the security cameras. Also a hotel guest immediately called the police when she heard the shots fired so the response time to the scene was quick. If these two guys escaped by car the outside security camera might have the image since that hotel has a single exit in front of the lobby door. Now Uncle stayed a long time and people were not allowed to enter or leave which tells me that they were thinking the two killers might have had a room in the hotel. Since, they have a photo; uncle can search DMV records and other databases to get a match. These two probably have a prior record because not just anybody walks through a hotel and guns down two people in their room.[/QUOTE]He was a suspect in a 2011 attempted murder: [URL]http://www.wral.com/durham-brothers-wanted-for-attempted-murder/10148751/[/URL]. Similar situation except it was an apartment and didn't involve a girl. My golden rule, come to my house or hotel or car unannounced and I'm most likely going to inflict serious injury on the person and ask questions later. Guys like this are why I live by that rule. Muneka's boyfriend should have had the same rule. I just read PenaltyKillers post and seems like her man was never able to protect her. This is really a sad and tragic story of a girl lost. BTW, P45, you were right on all predictions.

[QUOTE=Purple45;3173278]Too many unknowns but it's probably reasonable to say that the boyfriend new the two guys. Now, I believe this case will get attention because a) there are 5 other much nicer hotels nearby and this could affect their business b) this a young mother of three children so many people will be interested in this case. Luckily the two guys were not smart with the security cameras. Also a hotel guest immediately called the police when she heard the shots fired so the response time to the scene was quick. If these two guys escaped by car the outside security camera might have the image since that hotel has a single exit in front of the lobby door. Now Uncle stayed a long time and people were not allowed to enter or leave which tells me that they were thinking the two killers might have had a room in the hotel. Since, they have a photo; uncle can search DMV records and other databases to get a match. These two probably have a prior record because not just anybody walks through a hotel and guns down two people in their room.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the other post that at least one has been identified and arrested. What I want to know is how these guys with long criminal histories are out on the streets. Something very wrong with our criminal justice system.

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Maybe the shooters were unknown to them, and set up an appointment with the intention of robbing them (for drugs or $).

This exact MO has been happening all over the country. Thugs respond to BP ads (gals that don't verify or ask for references), then pistol-whip the gals and steal all their appt money. The majority of working girls would be hesitant to report this type of robbery, ya know?

So maybe the hubby did try to protect her? But failed.

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels;3173702]Maybe the shooters were unknown to them, and set up an appointment with the intention of robbing them (for drugs or $).

This exact MO has been happening all over the country. Thugs respond to BP ads (gals that don't verify or ask for references), then pistol-whip the gals and steal all their appt money. The majority of working girls would be hesitant to report this type of robbery, ya know?

So maybe the hubby did try to protect her? But failed.[/QUOTE]Muneka wasn't a stupid girl. Her rule was only 3 or 4 appointments in a night and she definitely wouldn't see a stranger without some sort of screening from her. Now let's just say he made it pass her phone sniff test, she would have looked through the peephole when he knocked on door and would not have let him in. Those guys were known to the boyfriend or both of them.

[QUOTE=Purple45;3171906]Total B. S. !

Hopefully her phone and the hotel security cameras will give Uncle some clues. She had a male friend when she stayed at the Red Roof on S. Saunders. I usually keep my protection in the car but it's time to keep it on me. A CC class is not very expensive and I suggest you invest in some protection if you're visiting unknown or shady places.[/QUOTE]Jonny beat me to it but this really isn't a good idea. If the situation is bad enough you feel the need to carry then you should not go in. I took the class a long time ago and I would imagine there are exceptions but I'm pretty sure that having the right to legally carry while you are committing a crime does not excuse you using a gun in the commission of a crime. There's also the real possibility of the chick seeing it and freaking out or it being taken while you've got your dick in your hand.

I would never tell someone to not carry. After all we live in a state where depending on who you are and who you shoot, the question of was he with an escort probably won't be relevant. That said, we all have to keep in mind that having the permit does not make you a gunslinger. Depending on what you carry that situation where you panic or fire a shot may cost someone who is not in the room and completely innocent their life.

[QUOTE=GetControl;3173758]Muneka wasn't a stupid girl. Her rule was only 3 or 4 appointments in a night and she definitely wouldn't see a stranger without some sort of screening from her. Now let's just say he made it pass her phone sniff test, she would have looked through the peephole when he knocked on door and would not have let him in. Those guys were known to the boyfriend or both of them.[/QUOTE]I agree. If both her and her boyfriend were shot in their room it was most likely some kind of feud between so called friends. Did Muneka see black guys at all? If she didn't that's further proof I suppose. Lesson to all the ladies out there. Be careful who you associate with and stay off the damn drugs.

[QUOTE=JoeLooking;3174052]Jonny beat me to it but this really isn't a good idea. If the situation is bad enough you feel the need to carry then you should not go in. I took the class a long time ago and I would imagine there are exceptions but I'm pretty sure that having the right to legally carry while you are committing a crime does not excuse you using a gun in the commission of a crime. There's also the real possibility of the chick seeing it and freaking out or it being taken while you've got your dick in your hand.

I would never tell someone to not carry. After all we live in a state where depending on who you are and who you shoot, the question of was he with an escort probably won't be relevant. That said, we all have to keep in mind that having the permit does not make you a gunslinger. Depending on what you carry that situation where you panic or fire a shot may cost someone who is not in the room and completely innocent their life.[/QUOTE]The CC option is an option. Why have car insurance? Why have health or dental coverage? Why have fire insurance? Why have rental insurance? You hope that you never need these things but if you do then you sure are glad you had the coverage.

I don't like the argument that you're committing a crime by seeing an escort. I also don't like the argument that you give up the right to CC for self defense by seeing an escort. Everybody should do their homework on any girl before they make an appointment. Everybody should canvas the location where she is having her incall. That's just smart to be on the lookout for Uncle or possible criminals targeting your vehicle or your wallet. You can do all that you can do but still find yourself in a situation that you didn't expect or plan on.

Do you ever just walk into a hotel room with nobody at the door? Do you conduct a room check before committing to stay? She can do her LE check while I'll check the bathroom and closet. I'm taking just as much risk being there as she is having me there. How many times have guys been in the room and the girl says she will be right back and then two guy enter to take all your money. I have rules too and the secondary lock will be locked and if a girl needs to leave then I get my donation returned before she steps out. Girls take risks and have rules and the hobbyist takes risks and should also have rules. I'm taking an equal risk in meeting her at her incall location. Now back to the CC, it's a just encase option if you find yourself at the wrong place at the wrong time and you fear for your life. Cooperating with criminals still has the possibility they will shoot you anyway just because you can identify them to LE.

I have protection that fits in my pockets and it's still a 9 mm. There are boot holsters and ankle holsters that nobody will notice while getting undressed. Some of you carry a pocket knife and it stays in your pocket. To carry or not to carry is a personal choice but it's a "what if" choice if all else fails and you need to choose between your life or theirs. It would be nice if both the hobbyist, provider and stranger you encounter before, during or after an appointment were on the "up and up". This is not the case unfortunately so everyone has measures in place to minimize risks. We hope for the best but we also should be prepared for the worst. Most homicides in the triangle are either domestic violence or involving criminal activity. How many providers are into drugs or have pimps? You are a potential target by responding to an ad on either CL or BP or picking up a SW on the corner. Something to think about and it's an individual decision on what risks are acceptable and what measures you take to minimize the risks.

[QUOTE=Purple45;3174231]The CC option is an option. Why have car insurance? Why have health or dental coverage? Why have fire insurance? Why have rental insurance? You hope that you never need these things but if you do then you sure are glad you had the coverage.

I don't like the argument that you're committing a crime by seeing an escort. I also don't like the argument that you give up the right to CC for self defense by seeing an escort. Everybody should do their homework on any girl before they make an appointment. Everybody should canvas the location where she is having her incall. That's just smart to be on the lookout for Uncle or possible criminals targeting your vehicle or your wallet. You can do all that you can do but still find yourself in a situation that you didn't expect or plan on.

Do you ever just walk into a hotel room with nobody at the door? Do you conduct a room check before committing to stay? She can do her LE check while I'll check the bathroom and closet. I'm taking just as much risk being their as she is having me there. How many times have guys been in the room and the girl says she will be right back and then two guy enter to take all your money. I have rules too and the secondary lock will be locked and if a girl needs to leave then I get my donation returned before she steps out. Girls take risks and have rules and the hobbyist takes risks and should also have rules. I'm taking an equal risk in meeting her at her incall location. Now back to the CC, it's a just encase option if you find yourself at the wrong place at the wrong time and you fear for your life. Cooperating with criminals still has the possibility they will shoot you anyway just because you can identify them to LE.

I have protection that fits in my pockets and it's still a 9 mm. There are boot holsters and ankle holsters that nobody will notice while getting undressed. Some of you carry a pocket knife and it stays in your pocket. To carry or not to carry is a personal choice but it's a "what if" choice if all else fails and you need to choose between your life or theirs. It would be nice if both the hobbyist, provider and stranger you encounter before, during or after an appointment were on the "up and up". This is not the case unfortunately so everyone has measures in place to minimize risks. We hope for the best but we also should be prepared for the worst. Most homicides in the triangle are either domestic violence or involving criminal activity. How many providers are into drugs or have pimps? You are a potential target by responding to an ad on either CL or BP or picking up a SW on the corner. Something to think about and it's an individual decision on what risks are acceptable and what measures you take to minimize the risks.[/QUOTE]Well said, Purple!

[QUOTE=InaraIncognito;3174157]I agree. If both her and her boyfriend were shot in their room it was most likely some kind of feud between so called friends. Did Muneka see black guys at all? If she didn't that's further proof I suppose. Lesson to all the ladies out there. Be careful who you associate with and stay off the damn drugs.[/QUOTE]Yes as it was said Muneka wasnt stupid, Despite her number of ads posted on BP she wasnt High Volume at all. Almost was a completely UTR type of girl. She did get busted once for Prostitution SO I suspect that one time she let her guard down.

I saw her on 5 different occasions and even tho her screening wasnt all that tight our first visit started off awkwardly. I could tell she was nervous and didn't trust me fully and I was the same way. And yes me being not only Black but young made it that way. She did tell me she didn't see Blk guys that often so I did have to put in a little extra work to make her comfortable with me. After all this I also assume She or Her Bf knew these guys that's why they was able to get into that room so easily.

Caller: We were sleeping and then we just heard gunshots and yelling.

Operator: You said somebody has a gun?

Caller: Yes, I heard gunshots in the hallway.

Caller: You can hear somebody not breathing. Trying to breathe.

Operator: Right outside your door?

Caller: No, my cousin got close to the door and he can hear it.

I'm angry and sad over this whole thing. Two people just don't show up at 4:45 am to talk. They planned to kill one or both. The reason why is not important, but it is because two people are dead. Three children lost their parents. Two or more people didn't give a shit and made the determination that this man and woman's life were nothing.

[QUOTE=Purple45;3174730]Caller: We were sleeping and then we just heard gunshots and yelling.

Operator: You said somebody has a gun?

Caller: Yes, I heard gunshots in the hallway.

Caller: You can hear somebody not breathing. Trying to breathe.

Operator: Right outside your door?

Caller: No, my cousin got close to the door and he can hear it.

I'm angry and sad over this whole thing. Two people just don't show up at 4:45 am to talk. They planned to kill one or both. The reason why is not important, but it is because two people are dead. Three children lost their parents. Two or more people didn't give a shit and made the determination that this man and woman's life were nothing.[/QUOTE]I couldn't have said it better myself. I'm pretty angry and heartbroken with this situation. I had been seeing her for well over a year now and was quite often too. I like to think we had become friends and would check in on her when I wasn't seeing her just to say hi and wish her well. I actually texted her very shortly after the incident happened. I've been thinking about it every since.

[QUOTE=Purple45;3174730]Caller: We were sleeping and then we just heard gunshots and yelling.

Operator: You said somebody has a gun?

Caller: Yes, I heard gunshots in the hallway.

Caller: You can hear somebody not breathing. Trying to breathe.

Operator: Right outside your door?

Caller: No, my cousin got close to the door and he can hear it.

I'm angry and sad over this whole thing. Two people just don't show up at 4:45 am to talk. They planned to kill one or both. The reason why is not important, but it is because two people are dead. Three children lost their parents. Two or more people didn't give a shit and made the determination that this man and woman's life were nothing.[/QUOTE]She was pregnant. [URL]http://www.wral.com/mom-wants-daughter-s-boyfriend-s-killers-to-suffer-/16309811/[/URL].

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels;3173702]Maybe the shooters were unknown to them, and set up an appointment with the intention of robbing them (for drugs or $).

This exact MO has been happening all over the country. Thugs respond to BP ads (gals that don't verify or ask for references), then pistol-whip the gals and steal all their appt money. The majority of working girls would be hesitant to report this type of robbery, ya know?

So maybe the hubby did try to protect her? But failed.[/QUOTE]These two suspects have a history of robbery. In the car that was eluding the police on Sunday was: a) numerous firearms b) uniforms from the Durham Police Department which had been stolen from a prior burglary c) several identifications that would match back to some robbery of those victims.

Possible robbery of a BP girl? One of the suspects and his brother were involved in an Durham apartment robbery in 2011 where they shot the two male victims multiple times.

Prosecutors say, there is video of Muneka and her boyfriend being murdered execution-style.

Muneka's mother says, her daughter was pregnant with her 4th child.

The family is raising money for funeral expenses [URL]https://www.gofundme.com/for-the-funeral-for-my-niece[/URL].

[URL]http://abc11.com/news/victims-mother-wants-death-penalty-in-hotel-murders/1641208/[/URL]

Who knows how many unnamed victims are out there or how many unsolved cases are related to these two charged suspects and their associates.