I post this as informational. I am not suggesting backpage is good, bad, or anything else.
[URL]http://www.reuters.com/article/us-backpage-california-trafficking-idUSKCN1262IW[/URL]
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I post this as informational. I am not suggesting backpage is good, bad, or anything else.
[URL]http://www.reuters.com/article/us-backpage-california-trafficking-idUSKCN1262IW[/URL]
[QUOTE=Vossen;3103410]And on pimping charges of all things. He was raking in $2 million a month from the site alone, how and why in the hell was he pimping? LOL.[/QUOTE]B. P. Has run its course, Nothing but street walkers and trouble. I am sure it will be expiring shortly. I find it hard to believe the CEO will be prosecuted on the charges made up but they will succeed in shutting the site down and costing him a ton in attorney fees.Pretty sure because he provided a means to advertise that he is indirectly being accused of pimping.
[QUOTE=Vossen;3103410]And on pimping charges of all things. He was raking in $2 million a month from the site alone, how and why in the hell was he pimping? LOL.[/QUOTE]The TL / DR version. The Pimping charge is not going to be the ***** here. The Conspiracy to Commit Pimping will be what winds them up under the jail.
Oh and if they can prove that they were 'compliicit' in the Trafficking of underaged sex slaves, well. They might never see outside again.
Well, in the Democratic Socialist Republic of PCH Also known as California Pimping is a very specific charge.
California "pimping" is defined in California Penal Code 266 h PC. You commit the crime of "pimping" if you either:
Knowingly receive financial support or maintenance from the earnings of someone engaged in prostitution; or.
Receive or try to receive compensation for soliciting for a prostitute (that is, finding customers for him / her).
So I would say they are more aiming at the second part of that sentence.
Furthermore.
Despite being known as the "oldest profession in the world," prostitution still gets prosecuted aggressively as a criminal act. Prostitution, simply put, means to engage in a sexual act in exchange for money or other consideration (that is, other goods or services).
California prostitution law under Penal Code 647 (b) PC prohibits.
Engaging in the act of prostitution, and.
Offering (this is also known as "solicitation") or agreeing to engage in the act of prostitution. 1.
So California's prostitution statute allow law enforcement officers to arrest.
The prostitute,
The customer, otherwise known as a "john," and.
(where appropriate), the middleman, otherwise known as a pimp. The "pimp" is arrested if he / she (1) arranges or participates in soliciting the agreement, (2) receives part or all of a prostitute's pay, or (3) participates in procuring the prostitute. These crimes, described in Penal Code 266 h and 266 I PC, are commonly referred to as "pimping and pandering. "2 A middleman may also be arrested under Penal Code 653.23 PC, which prohibits the more general crime of "supervising or aiding" a prostitute. 3.
There is often an enormous amount of political and social pressure to arrest those involved in prostitution offenses. As a result, law enforcement agencies typically invest substantial resources in vice squad operations.
Examples.
Specific examples of behavior that can lead to California prostitution charges. Or even a conviction. Include:
A man offering drugs to a young woman in exchange for a "blow job" (even if she is not a prostitute by profession and says no).
A woman allowing a man to fondle her bare breasts in exchange for money, and.
A man accepting a woman's offer to have sex in exchange for money.
Penalties.
The California crime of prostitution (or solicitation) is a misdemeanor. 4 For a first offense, the potential penalties include up to six (6) months in county jail, a fine of up to one thousand dollars ($1,000), or both. 5.
Legal Defenses.
If you are charged with prostitution, it is well worth it to fight the charges. There are a number of effective legal defenses that may help you get an dismissal or a reduction of charges. These include:
Entrapment,
Insufficient evidence,
Lack of evidence, and.
Mistake.
In order to better understand California's prostitution laws, our California criminal defense attorneys6 will address the following:
1. Legal Definition of Solicitation & Prostitution.
In California.
1. 1. Engaging in an act of prostitution.
1. 2. Soliciting prostitution.
1. 3. Agreeing to engage in an act of prostitution.
2. What are the Penalties for Prostitution.
In California?
2. 1. Misdemeanor penalties.
2. 2. Registration as a sex offender under California Penal Code.
290 PC.
3. Legal Defenses Against a Penal Code 647 (b) PC Prostitution or Solicitation Charge.
4. History of California Penal Code 647 (b) PC: Prostitution and Solicitation for Prostitution.
5. Related Offenses.
5. 1. California Penal Code sections 266 h and 266 I pimping and pandering.
5. 2. Penal Code 647 (a) PC lewd conduct in public.
5. 3. Penal Code 653.23 PC supervising or aiding.
A prostitute.
5. 4. Penal Code 653.22 PC loitering to.
Commit prostitution.
5. 5. Penal Code 314 PC California indecent.
Exposure laws.
5. 6. California Penal Code 261 PC rape.
If, after reading this article, you have additional questions, we invite you to contact us at Shouse Law Group.
1. Legal Definition of Prostitution in California under Penal Code 647 (b) PC.
There are three basic ways to violate California prostitution law under Penal Code 647 (b) PC. Which specific prostitution offense prosecutors have charged you with will determine what facts (otherwise known as "elements of the crime") the prosecution must prove.
The legal definitions of the crimes of prostitution and solicitation focus on these elements.
1. 1. Engaging in an act of prostitution.
For you to be guilty of engaging in an act of prostitution, the following must be true:
You engaged in an act of prostitution, and.
You did so willfully. 7.
"Prostitution" means engaging in sexual intercourse or any lewd act with another person in exchange for money or other consideration. 8.
Img-prostitution-car.
A "lewd" act is defined as any act that involves touching the genitals, buttocks, or female breast of another person with the specific intent to arouse or gratify someone sexually. 9.
"Willfully" means deliberately or on purpose. It does not require an intent to break the law. 10.
1. 2. Soliciting prostitution.
The legal definition of soliciting prostitution is:
That you solicited another person to engage in an act of prostitution, and.
That you did so with the specific intent to engage in an act of prostitution. 11.
Depending on the nature of the exchange. And on who initiated the interaction. Prosecutors could charge this offense against the prostitute or the customer (or "john" 12.
"Soliciting" means to lure, or to try to induce or elicit. 13.
And, in order to be guilty of soliciting, you have to have had the specific intent to engage in an act of prostitution. This intent is typically evidenced by an offer to pay money or other compensation (typically drugs) in exchange for sexual acts14 . Not by a simple unspoken gesture or appearance.
Simply soliciting another person, without that specific intent, is insufficient to uphold a Penal Code 647 (b) PC solicitation for prostitution case. The California Court of Appeals has noted that if it were sufficient, simply.
Being present in a particular place (for example, being in a known area of prostitution).
Waving to a passing vehicle.
Nodding to a stranger, or.
Even standing on a street corner in a miniskirt.
Could give rise to this charge.
So the fact that these girls mostly put, "this is not an ad for prostitution and any money exchanged is for my time only" in their ads MIGHT buy this guy a way out. But of course, some did not.
The main thing this guy and the other two they picked up are going to be Fucked by is the Conspiracy to Commit Pimping charge. That falls under a WHOLE different statute.
86. This act may be cited as the "California Control of Profits of.
Organized Crime Act. " (This is the California Equivalent of the RICO Federal laws. Bad Shit.).
186.1. The Legislature hereby finds and declares that an effective.
Means of punishing and deterring criminal activities of organized.
Crime is through the forfeiture of profits acquired and accumulated.
As a result of such criminal activities. It is the intent of the.
Legislature that the "California Control of Profits of Organized.
Crime Act" be used by prosecutors to punish and deter only such.
Activities.
(d) "Organized crime" means crime that is of a conspiratorial.
Nature and that is either of an organized nature and seeks to supply.
Illegal goods or services such as narcotics, prostitution, pimping.
And pandering, loan-sharking, counterfeiting of a registered mark in.
Violation of Section 350, the piracy of a recording or audiovisual.
Work in violation of Section 653 w, gambling, and pornography, or.
That, through planning and coordination of individual efforts, seeks.
To conduct the illegal activities of arson for profit, hijacking.
Insurance fraud, smuggling, operating vehicle theft rings, fraud.
Against the beverage container recycling program, embezzlement.
Securities fraud, insurance fraud in violation of the provisions.
Listed in paragraph 34 of subdivision (a), grand theft, money.
Laundering, forgery, or systematically encumbering the assets of a.
Business for the purpose of defrauding creditors. "Organized crime".
Also means crime committed by a criminal street gang, as defined in.
Subdivision (f) of Section 186.22. "Organized crime" also means false.
Or fraudulent activities, schemes, or artifices, as described in.
Section 14107 of the Welfare and Institutions Code, and the theft of.
Personal identifying information, as defined in Section 530.5.
186.2. For purposes of this chapter, the following definitions.
Apply:
(12) Pimping and pandering, as defined in Section 266.
And the fact that they are 'Conspiring to commit' is tantamount to the case.
266 d. Any person who receives any money or other valuable thing for.
Or on account of placing in custody any other person for the purpose.
Of causing the other person to cohabit with any person to whom the.
Other person is not married, is guilty of a felony.
266 e. Every person who purchases, or pays any money or other.
Valuable thing for, any person for the purpose of prostitution as.
Defined in subdivision (b) of Section 647, or for the purpose of.
Placing such person, for immoral purposes, in any house or place.
Against his or her will, is guilty of a felony punishable by.
Imprisonment in the state prison for 16 months, or two or three.
Years.
266 f. Every person who sells any person or receives any money or.
Other valuable thing for or on account of his or her placing in.
Custody, for immoral purposes, any person, whether with or without.
His or her consent, is guilty of a felony punishable by imprisonment.
In the state prison for 16 months, or two or three years.
The main reason behind this seems to be underaged prostitution and the Trafficking of underaged Sex slaves. Ugh.
266. Every person who inveigles or entices any unmarried female, of.
Previous chaste character, under the age of 18 years, into any house.
Of ill fame, or of assignation, or elsewhere, for the purpose of.
Prostitution, or to have illicit carnal connection with any man; and.
Every person who aids or assists in such inveiglement or enticement;.
And every person who, by any false pretenses, false representation.
Or other fraudulent means, procures any female to have illicit carnal.
Connection with any man, is punishable by imprisonment in the state.
Prison, or by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year.
Or by a fine not exceeding two thousand dollars ($2,000), or by both.
Such fine and imprisonment.
In New Bern, NC the man pictured in the link is meeting BP girls at their hotel room and then proceeds to assault and rob the girls.
[URL]http://wncn.com/2016/11/09/man-assaults-robs-women-at-nc-hotels-meetings-set-on-backpage-website-sheriff-says/[/URL]
There use to be several Hispanic and AA ladies staying at this hotel on Highway 55. I'm not sure if that's the case anymore, but it's good to be aware of what's going on out there.
[URL]http://www.wral.com/police-man-found-shot-to-death-in-durham-hotel-room/16280445/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Purple45;3164884]There use to be several Hispanic and AA ladies staying at this hotel on Highway 55. I'm not sure if that's the case anymore, but it's good to be aware of what's going on out there.
[URL]http://www.wral.com/police-man-found-shot-to-death-in-durham-hotel-room/16280445/[/URL][/QUOTE]I've seen two providers there this year, both white. I saw this this morning on the news. I'm interested in knowing what happened.
Terrible! [URL]http://abc11.com/news/police-id-2-people-killed-in-raleigh-hotel-shooting/1635901/#videoplayer[/URL].
The suspect, SEG, has a new mugshot today. He now has been charged with kidnapping, assault by strangulation and rape that occurred on Oct 28, 2016.
[QUOTE=PenaltyKiller;3165117]I've seen two providers there this year, both white. I saw this this morning on the news. I'm interested in knowing what happened.[/QUOTE]The shooting doesn't appear to be hobby related. A suspect has been charged and arrested. [URL]http://abc11.com/news/suspect-charged-in-fatal-durham-motel-shooting/1641055/[/URL].
[QUOTE=Purple45;3177981]The suspect, SEG, has a new mugshot today. He now has been charged with kidnapping, assault by strangulation and rape that occurred on Oct 28, 2016.[/QUOTE][URL]http://wncn.com/2016/12/07/raleigh-hotel-murder-suspect-charged-in-october-rape-robbery/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Purple45;3178093][URL]http://wncn.com/2016/12/07/raleigh-hotel-murder-suspect-charged-in-october-rape-robbery/[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]http://abc11.com/news/man-wanted-in-raleigh-murder-captured-in-florida/1644120/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article119657008.html[/URL]
You never let the girl just blindly open the door during your appointment. You need to verify everything firsthand!
[URL]http://wncn.com/2016/12/11/5-nabbed-after-fayetteville-man-robbed-kidnapped-while-meeting-woman-at-motel/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Purple45;3184180]You never let the girl just blindly open the door during your appointment. You need to verify everything firsthand!
[URL]http://wncn.com/2016/12/11/5-nabbed-after-fayetteville-man-robbed-kidnapped-while-meeting-woman-at-motel/[/URL][/QUOTE]What do you think he meant by "She carried me like a baby"?
[QUOTE=Purple45;3184180]You never let the girl just blindly open the door during your appointment. You need to verify everything firsthand!
[URL]http://wncn.com/2016/12/11/5-nabbed-after-fayetteville-man-robbed-kidnapped-while-meeting-woman-at-motel/[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GetControl;3184276]What do you think he meant by "She carried me like a baby"?[/QUOTE]IMO the girl was stalling, by cuddling, till the knock on the door. There is only one victim listed, the guy, so it appears to have been a setup from the beginning. If the initial meet was for sex then she wasn't going to tell LE that. I'm sure the victim is ok with the record showing "she carried him like a baby" statement as well.
Gent robbed by girl he met online.
[URL]http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article120573748.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Rdudreaming;3186169]Gent robbed by girl he met online.
[URL]http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article120573748.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Unfortunately, "A man told police that he had met her online, went to the Red Roof Inn to meet her and was robbed". The two women were also charged with heroin trafficking and are under a 2.5M bond.
Unknown providers are becoming risky business! How many times do think this has already happened before this man called LE?
[QUOTE=Purple45;3186534]"A man told police that he had met her online, went to the Red Roof Inn to meet her and was robbed". The two women were also charged with heroin trafficking and are under a 2.5M bond.
Unknown providers are becoming risky business![/QUOTE]It's most certainly not just "unknown," do not lull yourself into a false sense of security thinking everything is fine if you've seen a girl before. I've had some of THE best experiences with girls who had never posted before "today," and though I've not had bad experiences with "repeats," you and I have both read plenty of stories on here about girls who were once ok not being ok now, certainly including tales of missing money and "cash and dash. ".
This hobby and every girl in it, every dream should be considered a snapshot of what's true TODAY, for tomorrow what's true about any of these girls may be COMPLETELY different tomorrow.
Stupid is as stupid does.
When a monger is chasing pussy in these type of neighborhoods, there is an inherent risk involved.
I ain't asking why'all to build a rocket, but for Gods sake try to use some smarts.
Sting.
[QUOTE=Purple45;3186534]Unfortunately, "A man told police that he had met her online, went to the Red Roof Inn to meet her and was robbed". The two women were also charged with heroin trafficking and are under a 2.5M bond.
Unknown providers are becoming risky business! How many times do think this has already happened before this man called LE?[/QUOTE]
As with most Crusades, Facts and the Law are annoying minor details:
[URL]http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-backpage-charges-20161223-story.html[/URL]
I didn't think of 5623 Durham-Chapel Hill Blvd. As being a particularly suspicious neighborhood. I drive through there on a regular bases as it is on a major road, near UNC offices, retail shops, and single family housing neighborhoods. I have actually kept my eyes open for providers along that road as it is a very convenient location for me (and I have had a couple reasonable experiences).
Did I miss something? Perhaps my monger senses are worse that I thought.
[QUOTE=TheSting24;3186620]Stupid is as stupid does.
When a monger is chasing pussy in these type of neighborhoods, there is an inherent risk involved.
I ain't asking why'all to build a rocket, but for Gods sake try to use some smarts.
Sting.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Amateur11;3186575]It's most certainly not just "unknown," do not lull yourself into a false sense of security thinking everything is fine if you've seen a girl before. I've had some of THE best experiences with girls who had never posted before "today," and though I've not had bad experiences with "repeats," you and I have both read plenty of stories on here about girls who were once ok not being ok now, certainly including tales of missing money and "cash and dash. ".
This hobby and every girl in it, every dream should be considered a snapshot of what's true TODAY, for tomorrow what's true about any of these girls may be COMPLETELY different tomorrow.[/QUOTE]My post did sound like that every unknown is becoming a risk and that is not true. I've also in the past seen providers who were new and with no reviews and had a good experience and some ok experiences but never any problems. I've also repeated with a girl because the first time was nice but only to find that the second time was completely different and was not as good. It really does depend and "every day is a new day" is more accurate description. Now I have have met some high dollar duds who I would have rather donated those roses to charity, then have wasted on their deceiving ass. Girls who change from angel to devil once they get the donation are in the same category as a "cash and dash" girl in my book. Anyway, you are correct that you can't let down your guard with unknown or known providers because you just don't know the whole story. By the time you see her it could be a different and darker chapter in her life.
[QUOTE=JMonger;3201845]I didn't think of 5623 Durham-Chapel Hill Blvd. As being a particularly suspicious neighborhood. I drive through there on a regular bases as it is on a major road, near UNC offices, retail shops, and single family housing neighborhoods. I have actually kept my eyes open for providers along that road as it is a very convenient location for me (and I have had a couple reasonable experiences).
Did I miss something? Perhaps my monger senses are worse that I thought.[/QUOTE]Probably a crapshoot, probably no issues, but buyer beware, anything north of Franklin and Estes is pretty much Durham. There is too much trash zipping down 15/501 into what should otherwise be the southern part of heaven.
Don't forget Eve Carson was killed on this road much closer to campus, in the residential area of Franklin, by 2 Durham thugs.
[URL]http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article123518644.html[/URL]"They also disclosed in asking for the search warrant that Hill and Garvey had been on a cell phone call with Garvey or Holland shortly before they died".
[URL]http://www.pornhub.com/insights/2016-year-in-review[/URL]2016 Pornhub year in Review.
RPD investigating a death. No word on who or what happened.
[QUOTE=IbChilln;3305661]RPD investigating a death. No word on who or what happened.[/QUOTE]Man found dead and on fire! Appliance Court is a streetwalker hangout and generally not a desirable place to be at night.
Looks like a couple of AMPs are in trouble. Looks like more license checking.
[URL]http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article140560983.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Hanger42;3324306]Looks like a couple of AMPs are in trouble. Looks like more license checking.
[URL]http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article140560983.html[/URL][/QUOTE]This is worrisome in the sense that this location wasn't known for extras. I guess it has some different issues with the bribery and all, but still comes back to licensing.
See post [POST]3459807[/POST].
Article: [url]http://www.wral.com/police-raid-close-raleigh-massage-parlor-after-officer-offered-of-full-body-massage-/16807743/[/url]
WRAL had a segment on AMPs. Called out Apex's parlor and Super Relax as well as showed owners. They are also touting the new law about human trafficking. Here is a link to that law [URL]http://www.wral.com/new-law-would-help-in-fight-against-north-carolina-s-thriving-illicit-massage-business/16832136/[/URL].
Spotlight on AMPs. Not good.
Guess no real crime to be solved. If I suspected any woman in the biz is "in servitude", I'd call the police myself. Other than that, to be sure there some real crime that deserves more attention.
EXCLUSIVE: Feds raid Youngsville business for possible sex, cyber crimes.
[URL]http://abc11.com/feds-raid-youngsville-business-for-possible-sex-cyber-crimes/2614696/[/URL]
That is the shell company for [URL]Eros.com[/URL].
[QUOTE=Purple45;3613400]EXCLUSIVE: Feds raid Youngsville business for possible sex, cyber crimes.
[URL]http://abc11.com/feds-raid-youngsville-business-for-possible-sex-cyber-crimes/2614696/[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrSmithwick;3614928]That is the shell company for [URL]Eros.com[/URL].[/QUOTE][URL]http://abc11.com/adult-entertainment-industry-abuzz-after-federal-raid/2625072/[/URL]
Not quite sure why they chose NC for the Home Base. Stupid to say the least. Eros is a global business, should have been based in the Netherlands. This would not have happened.
[QUOTE=Purple45;3617814][URL]http://abc11.com/adult-entertainment-industry-abuzz-after-federal-raid/2625072/[/URL][/QUOTE]
Article in the New York post:
"A Miami cross-dresser spent years tricking men into performing sex acts for him on camera — posing as a lonely housewife and convincing them to wear blindfolds or blacked-out goggles, federal agents say. ".
Not sure how hard up you got to be to trust someone like that but oh well. Article goes on to say he filmed the encounters and put them on a website that stated the videos were of real, straight guys unknowingly participating in sex acts with other men. Reminds me of the one of the ads that used to post all the time about a car date that someone said turned out to be a guy.
[QUOTE=LifeLine;3905884]Article in the New York post:
"A Miami cross-dresser spent years tricking men into performing sex acts for him on camera posing as a lonely housewife and convincing them to wear blindfolds or blacked-out goggles, federal agents say. ".
Not sure how hard up you got to be to trust someone like that but oh well. Article goes on to say he filmed the encounters and put them on a website that stated the videos were of real, straight guys unknowingly participating in sex acts with other men. Reminds me of the one of the ads that used to post all the time about a car date that someone said turned out to be a guy.[/QUOTE]There's a guy over here at Duraleigh / Glenwood that used to post as a female. You find out after numerous emails and questioning it's a guy. The problem was he would change up the wording but there was a legit female who used to post too. I think he started to copy her postings. Be careful in this area though.
Looks like this situation went way out of control. Wonder what the whole story is...
[URL]https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article217936080.html[/URL]
To that story for sure.
Med.
[QUOTE=JoeWeezer;3936021]Looks like this situation went way out of control. Wonder what the whole story is...
[URL]https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article217936080.html[/URL][/QUOTE]