Ripoff Reports

Alright, gents, I'm hanging it out here a little. Anyone else been robbed recently by little Nichole and her entourage of thugs in the Triangle? I'm hearing from fairly reliable sources that I am not the only one. I will not be posting details about the specific chain of events, since I lost some potentially exposing items in the exchange. Suffice it to say that I was rolling with shields down and not paying attention to the signals. More elaborate than a Halo trap (especially with the crew involved) , but the bait was just as sweet. I have been kicking myself ever since, and seriously reevaluating my comittment to the hobby. I've been neglecting my regular squeezes too, from the combination of paranoia and poverty. I am not a high-volume player even when I have a monger stash built up, but now I am struggling to cover my losses.

Been reluctant to post about it, until I heard that half a dozen others have suffered a similar experience recently. Maybe this has been influencing the recent downturn in the Triangle street economy, or maybe it is simply a side effect.

Sorry to hear of your misfortune. I frequent the Triangle and have seen very little if any activity lately. Can I presume from your limited description that you were in a car date and Nicole's friends followed you and robbed you? Or was it a notel date? Just curious where our exposure is. I usually think of a car date as relatively safe but if your being followed I guess not. Weapons involved or grab and dash?

Shitty economy and lack of unemployment benefits is going to cause more of this sort of thing to occur IMHO. My normal cautious mode has been thrown into overdrive from what I see out there.

What does Nicole look like and where did you pick her up? PM if needed. Thanks and Good Luck.

Michigan Guy.

[QUOTE=Moriarty1875; 1337859]Alright, gents, I'm hanging it out here a little. Anyone else been robbed recently by little Nichole and her entourage of thugs in the Triangle? I'm hearing from fairly reliable sources that I am not the only one. I will not be posting details about the specific chain of events, since I lost some potentially exposing items in the exchange. Suffice it to say that I was rolling with shields down and not paying attention to the signals. More elaborate than a Halo trap (especially with the crew involved) , but the bait was just as sweet. I have been kicking myself ever since, and seriously reevaluating my comittment to the hobby. I've been neglecting my regular squeezes too, from the combination of paranoia and poverty. I am not a high-volume player even when I have a monger stash built up, but now I am struggling to cover my losses.

Been reluctant to post about it, until I heard that half a dozen others have suffered a similar experience recently. Maybe this has been influencing the recent downturn in the Triangle street economy, or maybe it is simply a side effect.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Moriarty1875; 1337859]Alright, gents, I'm hanging it out here a little. Anyone else been robbed recently by little Nichole and her entourage of thugs in the Triangle? I'm hearing from fairly reliable sources that I am not the only one. I will not be posting details about the specific chain of events, since I lost some potentially exposing items in the exchange. Suffice it to say that I was rolling with shields down and not paying attention to the signals. More elaborate than a Halo trap (especially with the crew involved) , but the bait was just as sweet. I have been kicking myself ever since, and seriously reevaluating my comittment to the hobby. I've been neglecting my regular squeezes too, from the combination of paranoia and poverty. I am not a high-volume player even when I have a monger stash built up, but now I am struggling to cover my losses.

Been reluctant to post about it, until I heard that half a dozen others have suffered a similar experience recently. Maybe this has been influencing the recent downturn in the Triangle street economy, or maybe it is simply a side effect.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear about that also. If you been in this hobby long enough, it bound to happen. Don't beat yourself up over it. I just had my wallet taken, but got it back within minutes, but it was enough to make me re-think things and be more careful over the years. It sounds like yours was much worse. I frequent the Triangle also. I would also know what does Nicole look like, her age and where did you pick her up? It's not the Nichole from the AVE, is it? She used to do things like that in her early days on the streets "with her boys" as she called it when she was 19-20 year old.

I know you do not want to share details, but what she looks like helps all of us, as she can easy use a different name. PM if you wish. Thanks

I feel your pain.

Personally I never thought Nicole was anything other than another messed up triangle dope fiend. Kind of felt sorry for her being so young and that trashed in the head already. There's way better to be found there if you're patient.

It ain't about the economy or anything else. It's about a hoe and drugs and thugs. Newbies would be wise to pay attention to this fact.

Moriarty, I surmise you followed that hoe into that house again? I see mongers doing it and I cringe everytime I see it. It's a false sense of security with these hoes that makes you do it. Especially if you've seen them before and think you have an understanding established with them. Think again. The thugs are 100% UNPREDICTABLE always. Even if you're familiar with them and they with you.

Sorry brother you broke some rules and payed a price for it. I don't want to assume too much but like I said, I surmised you followed her? Then you left your info (wallet? Etc?) where it could be taken. I hope they didn't get your car while they were at it. The rules are the rules for a reason. It's to keep you safe and because a lot of guys long before you and me learned it the hard way too. I will never follow a hoe anywhere. Period. Even if it means I loose out on some potentially good poonany.

Your urge is going to take you back out. Be safe.

This might be the WSW, mid-20s, brown hair, thin but not bone thin, has some tattoos on arms, attractive face and solid body. Her teeth are kind of prominent, like Billie Piper. I have some posts on her. Had 1 ok BJ. 1 bad and one cash and dash. In the summer I saw her walking around the triangle nearly every day, often with a black man. I have also seen her out hanging with a group of thugs on 6 by the party store. Have not seen her in 3 months though.

[QUOTE=FindingGold;1339352]This might be the WSW, mid-20s, brown hair, thin but not bone thin, has some tattoos on arms, attractive face and solid body. Her teeth are kind of prominent, like Billie Piper. I have some posts on her. Had 1 ok BJ. 1 bad and one cash and dash. In the summer I saw her walking around the triangle nearly every day, often with a black man. I have also seen her out hanging with a group of thugs on 6 by the party store. Have not seen her in 3 months though.[/QUOTE]That's the one. Your comparison to Billie Piper had me laughing a bit. They do have similar qualities in their face and smile. Like Mountain Dew to a fine white wine.

I haven't seen her out since (not that I've been looking hard). Back to the R for me, I think.

Encounter Halo last week 6am on the R eating some breakfast from the coney. Made a mistake parking where she chose because I am not too familiar with that area yet. Quoted 25 and she provided the cover. I figured okay use the cover she's just got to work harder. After a min she starts just giving an HJ and I request her to pull it off. She removed it then she went another 30 sec and she asked for FS upgrade which I declined. B* started complaining saying I need to help her out and its not her problem I can't get off. I told her this is the second time you screwed me over. She said "when" and I went on to describe the time before. She claimed she don't remember (of course). She then told me pull up and follow her to the house up the street where she'll take care of me. RIIIGHT! She's staying at a White house on Hollywood but she is not on my DNPU list. I know I made mistakes but I figured not being a threat and she didn't appear to be on any type of drugs things would be good. Obviously with her you MUST play by the rules provided here.

Now my question is do I need to get aggressive with these SWs if they start pulling some crap like this or what? It's only been an issue with this one. I try to not let the crap bother me bcuz I am a hothead and I am looking for drama-free encounters. I'm very chill and relaxed when conversing with them. I always provide donation upfront even tho it's recommended (rules) not to until after its complete. I tried twice holding off until after but they wouldn't budge until I donated so each time I ended up dropping them off.

[QUOTE=BenjaminSkully; 1382958]Encounter Halo last week 6am on the R eating some breakfast from the coney. Made a mistake parking where she chose because I am not too familiar with that area yet. Quoted 25 and she provided the cover. I figured okay use the cover she's just got to work harder. After a min she starts just giving an HJ and I request her to pull it off. She removed it then she went another 30 sec and she asked for FS upgrade which I declined. B* started complaining saying I need to help her out and its not her problem I can't get off. I told her this is the second time you screwed me over. She said "when" and I went on to describe the time before. She claimed she don't remember (of course). She then told me pull up and follow her to the house up the street where she'll take care of me. RIIIGHT! She's staying at a White house on Hollywood but she is not on my DNPU list. I know I made mistakes but I figured not being a threat and she didn't appear to be on any type of drugs things would be good. Obviously with her you MUST play by the rules provided here.

Now my question is do I need to get aggressive with these SWs if they start pulling some crap like this or what? It's only been an issue with this one. I try to not let the crap bother me bcuz I am a hothead and I am looking for drama-free encounters. I'm very chill and relaxed when conversing with them. I always provide donation upfront even tho it's recommended (rules) not to until after its complete. I tried twice holding off until after but they wouldn't budge until I donated so each time I ended up dropping them off.[/QUOTE]I have wondered the same thing when faced with bullshit in the field. Would it be better if I treated her like a prick (which I'm not, usually)? Are SW's like dogs, sensing fear and responding best to strength? Speaking for myself, I just don't want to be that guy. The small amount of pocket money I sometimes lose to this hobby is just not that big of a deal for me. I will suffer more emotional and psychological stress from taking aggressive action than I ever will from being occasionally 'played' by a desparate, homeless drug addict.

Having said that, I also want to point out that these women are PEOPLE living in unbearable situations. I am physically stronger than them (mostly because I got away from drugs years ago) , financially much more fortunate, and I get to drive away from the hood when we're done. I think I am taking quite enough advantage of this difference in our relative cirumstances, thank you. I have few illusions about my ability to really help them, but at the same time I have no need to own them. There are enough pleasant providers on the market who really will suck my cock for a few bucks that I can usually find what I'm after.

[QUOTE=BenjaminSkully; 1382958]Encounter Halo last week 6am on the R eating some breakfast from the coney. Made a mistake parking where she chose because I am not too familiar with that area yet. Quoted 25 and she provided the cover. I figured okay use the cover she's just got to work harder. After a min she starts just giving an HJ and I request her to pull it off. She removed it then she went another 30 sec and she asked for FS upgrade which I declined. B* started complaining saying I need to help her out and its not her problem I can't get off. I told her this is the second time you screwed me over. She said "when" and I went on to describe the time before. She claimed she don't remember (of course). She then told me pull up and follow her to the house up the street where she'll take care of me. RIIIGHT! She's staying at a White house on Hollywood but she is not on my DNPU list. I know I made mistakes but I figured not being a threat and she didn't appear to be on any type of drugs things would be good. Obviously with her you MUST play by the rules provided here.

Now my question is do I need to get aggressive with these SWs if they start pulling some crap like this or what? It's only been an issue with this one. I try to not let the crap bother me bcuz I am a hothead and I am looking for drama-free encounters. I'm very chill and relaxed when conversing with them. I always provide donation upfront even tho it's recommended (rules) not to until after its complete. I tried twice holding off until after but they wouldn't budge until I donated so each time I ended up dropping them off.[/QUOTE]Massage parlor chics do the same thing. Start off doing something for a bit, than expect you to climax right away. F* that. You pay for a certain service, you should get that service to the very end. Who Cums in 2 minutes anyways?

[QUOTE=John Wise; 1577057]SJ, I would like to say thanks for being a man of your word and posting about Halo ripping you off (that took a lot of balls) Part of me agrees with MichiganDl and part of me does not. Some details may help other members keep from getting ripped off, but then again maybe they need to learn the hard way just like you did. The choice will be up to you.

Now the important thing to remember is NOT to pick her up ever again.

I would like to ask the rest of the [b]I Hate Halo Fan club[/b] Not to be to hard on SJ, he did keep his word and that's a lot more then most men would do.[/QUOTE]Thanks almighty Mr Wise, Not much I can say I broke some of the rules I was stupid. I learened don't take to much cash and keep credit / debit cards at home before I go. Although I believe sometime Karma is a *****. I guess what I said about quiting mongering was no more driving around picking up girls I can't handle that. Like I said Halo and I were getting along real well and talked on several times so I had no problem meeting up with her. I had just spent a amazingly couple of hours with her on Friday. I know these are not the answers some of you are looking for but its all I have for now. She has contacted and apologized but I'm assuming its standard for her. I guess we will see. I still say when she is not dope crazy she can be and is a wonderful lady but now I have seen the other side.

[QUOTE=Plumber2;1577910]A friend of a friend says he was played by her recently. He offered her a free place to stay and an opportunity to straighten out, and she took him for a few bucks and bolted. Not the brightest move on his part.[/QUOTE]He offered her that place to stay in return for what? BJ's on demand, bust a nut in her ass? She's not stupid. She knows there are strings attached to all such offers. The friend of a friend is an idiot. Because now Halo and her crew knows where he lives. That's a whole lot of not good. These girls are for fucking only. They are out here for 1 one thing only: scrounge up enough money to get more drugs. You want a friend? Get a dog.

[QUOTE=Dxter;1578220]You want a friend? Get a dog.[/QUOTE]Wiser words were never written.

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Well it finally happened. I have had bad service before and felt like I got ripped off but it had never actually happened until last night with this one. I had actually seen her once and our first appointment was great; I was more than happy to see her again.

So I set something up for about 9:00 last night but I got turned around a couple of times on the way to her hotel. The damn GPS on my phone didn't do me any favors, it just basically said her hotel was right off the freeway and it wasn't. There was this little service drive that it didn't seem to know about. So I was very late. I should have read the directions on the web closer before taking off. I also should have trusted my instincts and just turned around and gone back home after the second failed attempt to find her hotel. But I didn't. She even sent me a text telling me she had cancelled an appointment so we would not be rushed.

When I arrived we chatted, kissed a little then I put the money on the table. She picked it up, went in the bathroom and said she had to give her friend $20 and would be right back. I had a bad feeling and decided, well, I could make a scene but if there are other people and I didn't really know what I might be getting into. So I just let things play out. A few minutes later it was obvious she wasn't coming back. I sent her a text, got no reply. So I left.

Talk about stupid women: she left me in a hotel room with a bunch of her clothes, a few personal possessions and a suitcase. I can't tell you how tempting it was to stuff all her shit into that suitcase and walk out. But I decided not to.

Then I received a text saying it was my fault; she had another appointment for more money and she needed the money to close on her home. Now that pissed me off so I sent her a text and told her I had actually taken all her stuff out of the room. I figured fuck her, let her worry a little while she's at her other appointment. I think she did; I got a text back about hotel security checking on her room.

I did, however, find our her real name. Guess she forgot about the little bottle of prescription medicine she left in the bag on the floor. So my last message to her was to tell her, using her real name, that I don't see a need for either one of us to contact the other again.

Damn shame; she was a great lay and she could have gotten a lot more out of me than what she got last night.

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Well it finally happened. I have had bad service before and felt like I got ripped off but it had never actually happened until last night with this one. I had actually seen her once and our first appointment was great; I was more than happy to see her again.

So I set something up for about 9:00 last night but I got turned around a couple of times on the way to her hotel. The damn GPS on my phone didn't do me any favors, it just basically said her hotel was right off the freeway and it wasn't. There was this little service drive that it didn't seem to know about. So I was very late. I should have read the directions on the web closer before taking off. I also should have trusted my instincts and just turned around and gone back home after the second failed attempt to find her hotel. But I didn't. She even sent me a text telling me she had cancelled an appointment so we would not be rushed.

When I arrived we chatted, kissed a little then I put the money on the table. She picked it up, went in the bathroom and said she had to give her friend $20 and would be right back. I had a bad feeling and decided, well, I could make a scene but if there are other people and I didn't really know what I might be getting into. So I just let things play out. A few minutes later it was obvious she wasn't coming back. I sent her a text, got no reply. So I left.

Talk about stupid women: she left me in a hotel room with a bunch of her clothes, a few personal possessions and a suitcase. I can't tell you how tempting it was to stuff all her shit into that suitcase and walk out. But I decided not to.

Then I received a text saying it was my fault; she had another appointment for more money and she needed the money to close on her home. Now that pissed me off so I sent her a text and told her I had actually taken all her stuff out of the room. I figured fuck her, let her worry a little while she's at her other appointment. I think she did; I got a text back about hotel security checking on her room.

I did, however, find our her real name. Guess she forgot about the little bottle of prescription medicine she left in the bag on the floor. So my last message to her was to tell her, using her real name, that I don't see a need for either one of us to contact the other again.

Damn shame; she was a great lay and she could have gotten a lot more out of me than what she got last night.[/QUOTE]It seems like you had previous good history with her. I know this is like arm chair quarterbacking, but maybe going after a "make it up to me" session would have been worth a try. Might still work. Isn't she a former porn star?

[QUOTE=Dlmred1954;1637281]It seems like you had previous good history with her. I know this is like arm chair quarterbacking, but maybe going after a "make it up to me" session would have been worth a try. Might still work. Isn't she a former porn star?[/QUOTE]Taken her perscription or dumped it in the toilet. I mean she took (stole) your money, so, some form of compensation or retribution should have been in order. Just my humble opinion.

[QUOTE=Dlmred1954;1637281]It seems like you had previous good history with her. I know this is like arm chair quarterbacking, but maybe going after a "make it up to me" session would have been worth a try. Might still work. Isn't she a former porn star?[/QUOTE]I suppose but I made my decision and I could care less about seeing her again. She can go screw herself.

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She is a thief. Don't say you werent warned. Works jr s of 8. Has pictures on naughty reviews under Brandi Jo. cant be 100% sure picture is accurate since she split with the $ so fast. but am sure its same girl that works the area mentioned

[QUOTE=Bedtop;1733496]She is a thief. Don't say you werent warned. Works jr s of 8. Has pictures on naughty reviews under Brandi Jo. cant be 100% sure picture is accurate since she split with the $ so fast. but am sure its same girl that works the area mentioned[/QUOTE]Oops, now she deleted Brandi Jo and just posted a new profile as 'Ms Lady B.' On nr.

I don't know why I decided to give this little lady another go. Oh, wait, yes I do! Because she is a sexy little mink when you can actually get ahold of her.

Anyway, I caught up to her again after about 6 months of catching only fleeting glimpses as I rolled thru the back streets. The experience was top notch as before. Had a spring in my step and a song in my heart all day afterwards. And so I set up another date with her the following week, thinking it's about damn time I caught a break out there.

I was wrong. Ignored my own rules for the first time in a year, fronted her a few bucks so she could get a room at a quieter notel, and received a refresher course in Don't Do It Dummy 101. She sent me on a wild goose chase to Southfield looking for her in a non-existent hotel room. I just don't get the thought process behind it. And there lies the same mistake I make over and over: there is no thought process. There is only a reaction process.

I spend hundreds on this hobby, and would gladly have diverted most of that to her as a regular customer. It stings my ego, or course, but it offends my sense of reason even more.

She's a great lay, and a better liar. Beware, gents.

(yes, this is a copy of what I posted in the SW thread. Just want to make sure it gets seen by all)

I am making a post to say Holly ripped me off. She's been reported about before on here with pictures. Stays around Plymouth and Schaeffer.

[QUOTE=Jooop; 1690369]This web page has a girl that I posted were one would Rob, I would stay away from any of the girls posted.

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As I sit here, a few ounces and a few dollars lighter, I daydream with a smile about this little lady. After all the hard feelings since my last post, I finally caught up to Candy on a quiet side street this morning. I may be the dumbest dick swinging in this town, but we gave it another go. Best Date Ever. I am so relieved that I no longer have to wonder if I'm going to run into her on the streets. It was never about the money, for me. She claimed once again to have been under enormous pressure from forces way beyond her control. We all know that all of our providers experience this most of the time.

So, I go forth into the sunshine with my johnson at a jaunty angle (oh, wait-it always looks like that!). This could be a great summer, if I can manage to stay ahead of the flakiness.

Good luck out there.

[QUOTE=Moriarty1875; 1748592]I don't know why I decided to give this little lady another go. Oh, wait, yes I do! Because she is a sexy little mink when you can actually get ahold of her.

Anyway, I caught up to her again after about 6 months of catching only fleeting glimpses as I rolled thru the back streets. The experience was top notch as before. Had a spring in my step and a song in my heart all day afterwards. And so I set up another date with her the following week, thinking it's about damn time I caught a break out there.

I was wrong. Ignored my own rules for the first time in a year, fronted her a few bucks so she could get a room at a quieter notel, and received a refresher course in Don't Do It Dummy 101. She sent me on a wild goose chase to Southfield looking for her in a non-existent hotel room. I just don't get the thought process behind it. And there lies the same mistake I make over and over: there is no thought process. There is only a reaction process.

I spend hundreds on this hobby, and would gladly have diverted most of that to her as a regular customer. It stings my ego, or course, but it offends my sense of reason even more.

She's a great lay, and a better liar. Beware, gents.

(yes, this is a copy of what I posted in the SW thread. Just want to make sure it gets seen by all) [/QUOTE]

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Picked up Precious at her home on lonyo around 11 pm last night as we agreed earlier in the day. Picked her up on the ave in the afternoon to exchange phone numbers. She is a nice looking slim blonde that mumbles. Once in the car, she asked for what we agreed. Kick my self, not my usual, in a moment of weakness, I gave it to her. She out got at the stop light at McGraw.

Pleaded with her on the phone to change her mind. I parked in her driveway but soon went on my way.

Within 15 min, I picked up petite Sue at the Sunoco at Lonyo. She knew the ways off Precious. Claims she rips off everyone and never does the deed.

Guys lets piss on her porch.

[QUOTE=PacoGrande; 1797397]Picked up Precious at her home on lonyo around 11 pm last night as we agreed earlier in the day. Picked her up on the ave in the afternoon to exchange phone numbers. She is a nice looking slim blonde that mumbles. Once in the car, she asked for what we agreed. Kick my self, not my usual, in a moment of weakness, I gave it to her. She out got at the stop light at McGraw.

Pleaded with her on the phone to change her mind. I parked in her driveway but soon went on my way.

Within 15 min, I picked up petite Sue at the Sunoco at Lonyo. She knew the ways off Precious. Claims she rips off everyone and never does the deed.

Guys lets piss on her porch.[/QUOTE]I've been with precious twice and have not had a good time with her yet. I didn't get ripped off, but she pretty much hates having sex, and BJ's are about 30 seconds and lousy. About every minute she asks, did you cum?

Her skills do not match her looks at all. My first time with her was decent, the last time she was a clock watching cum counter. Both dates were notel dates, the next date will be at my spot with her bent over the hood of my car.

She gets way too comfortable in notels, I will see how she does in the hood on my hood. She owns that house on lonyo, by the way.

[QUOTE=PacoGrande; 1797397]Picked up Precious at her home on lonyo around 11 pm last night as we agreed earlier in the day. Picked her up on the ave in the afternoon to exchange phone numbers. She is a nice looking slim blonde that mumbles. Once in the car, she asked for what we agreed. Kick my self, not my usual, in a moment of weakness, I gave it to her. She out got at the stop light at McGraw.

Pleaded with her on the phone to change her mind. I parked in her driveway but soon went on my way.

Within 15 min, I picked up petite Sue at the Sunoco at Lonyo. She knew the ways off Precious. Claims she rips off everyone and never does the deed.

Guys lets piss on her porch.[/QUOTE]Of the spectrum! I never met Precious and glad I didn't! However, Sue is my #4 Peach and one of my ATF She was always good and will treat you right and gets better the more she gets to know you. I haven't seen her in a while but glad to hear she is doing okay. I may have to go out hunting now that I know she is around! :+) Thanks for the report Paco.

I will never date precious again. Want to hear her get it bent over the hood in the hood. I know way better. 10 min rule is good. Shoulda coulda but didn't. Was not in my right mind for some very good reasons. Glad I didn't do the 10 min rule as it saved me from what sounds like coulda been a very stressful date.

In town for a few. Sue is a dream as have been the others. Precious is way below the par. We have some great ladies. They need to be celebrated. Someone see what hallmark can do.

This one can be found on Livernois mostly north of Michigan Avenue. May attempt to Rob or Scam you collaborating with others.

[QUOTE=Nevell;1820622]This one can be found on Livernois mostly north of Michigan Avenue. May attempt to Rob or Scam you collaborating with others.[/QUOTE]Can you give any specifics? I picked her up a little while back (her name is Katie) , I didn't have any problems with her. She is red head, about 22ish.

[QUOTE=John Wise; 1797562]One of the tricks of the trade is to drive 10 minutes out of the hood (into the suburbs) A 10 minute drive out means a hour walk back, so she is less likely to pull any BS if she has to walk all that way back. Also, NEVER pay until you are ready to do the deed, this includes notel dates.

I picked up a SW not to long ago, and her attitude changed big time (from good to bad) once she got paid. I told her just to stop and give me my money back, she told me to fuck off and take her back to where I picked her up from. Then I told her she had two choices, give me my money back and I would give her a ride back, or keep the money and get out of my car and walk back. She gave me my money back.

Something tells me you will give her a 2nd chance, and then a 3rd, and then a 4th. See what I'm getting at? Cut your losses and move on. If your the kind of guy that "pleads" with SW maybe you should rethink seeing SW, girls like Precious will eat you alive.[/QUOTE]Good tips Johnwise gives here. Though it's not a bad rule, the only one I don't do is the money for the deed thing. Many SW are just as afraid or wary as a monger and I actually have my money (which I never reach for in my wallet) ready and in a cupholder. I read their face and their reaction. Personally, I think it puts them at ease and I also think it sends out a bit of confidence as in "I do this shit and know what I am paying and what you are getting."

I completely agree that YOU pick the area to do the deed. If you don't know the area, don't gamble. Go study it. You are in control, not the SW. Going to her spots can mean getting jacked.

Honestly, lately, I just see a bunch of 30-60 somethings with big grins on their faces zooming around in SUV's chasing down SW. These guys look so eager and wide eyed from the window of the car, that you can tell they are a "lick." A lollipop. A sure thing. The SW knows they will get whatever they want.

Finally,

A girl can be a crook. In this game; who isn't? She could be getting into the car on the same night at the same time with two different types of mongers. If she gets into the car of a seasoned monger, likely she will do her thing and get her return. If she gets into the car of a newbie she will see it written all over his face."I normally don't work the streets and my prices are 40 for BJ OK?"

Response 1: "OK here ya go hun." After the deed is done."Do you think you could spare a little more for me?"Sure babe."

Seasoned response: "What I have is 20. If that's not good enough, I respect that but then maybe you need to get back off the streets and on BP like you said." "OK babe, I will do 20."

These words won't make a newbie not a newbie; even if you say these words. There are just too many tell tale signs of being one. But in time, you will read something like this. And "get it."

[QUOTE=FindingGold;1821866]Can you give any specifics? I picked her up a little while back (her name is Katie) , I didn't have any problems with her. She is red head, about 22ish.[/QUOTE]THAT'S CAITE? (her spelling). Holy shit she's has gone through the ringer! LOL.

She never did me wrong either, but she was always an "I give up" scoop.