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Open 9-9 every day. TOFTT?[/QUOTE]Experience has taught me that nothing to be had in any Chinese establishment. Post if your experience is different
There's a discussion a bit earlier on this board about pricing: To avoid the decimal point confusion I'll use names. It seems that the general house fee is 3 Jacksons. This seems pretty consistent. The price for FS seems to be somewhat variable between 5 Jacksons and 7 Jacksons. I have found from experience elsewhere (but not yet in Bloomington, alas. So many AMPs, so little time) that price for FS depends partly on local market conditions and competition. IE, if there are two or more working AMPs within a reasonable driving radius, price stays closer to 5 Jacksons where as if there is only one in an area the tip moves toward 7 Jacksons, making a total of 10 Jacksons for the whole visit. I never pay more than 10 Jacksons + a Hamilton (some places want an extra Hamilton for the TS and I always oblige).
But I have also found that currency matters. In a place where the regular tip (after house fee) may typically vary between 5 and 7 Jacksons, I find that if I put a Benjamin on the table I am usually (not always, but usually) not upsold. If I put 5 Jacksons on the table, the provider thinks there may be more of them. This takes a little preparation, since the ATMs usually spit out only Jacksons. My normal pattern is to walk in with 5 Jacksons. 1 Benjamin, and 1 Hamilton. I hide 2 of the Jacksons. Thus, I can give mamasan the 3 Jacksons (sometimes with the Hamilton if requested for the TS) and have only a Benjamin remaining BUT, if I really need them, and the provider is adamant, I have two more Jacksons (and maybe a Hamilton if not used previously) available. More often than not, I'll walk out the door satisfied and with two or three pieces of green, folded paper remaining in my pocket. I always leave wallet and everything except car key in the car locked up and hidden just to be safe.
Take a little extra time and stop by a bank or casino, get yourself set with the correct currency mix, and see if this strategy works for you.
Holden Caulfield
Thanks for the input. Sounds like you have a good system working for you.
[QUOTE=Hold Caulfield; 1779185]There's a discussion a bit earlier on this board about pricing: To avoid the decimal point confusion I'll use names. It seems that the general house fee is 3 Jacksons. This seems pretty consistent. The price for FS seems to be somewhat variable between 5 Jacksons and 7 Jacksons. I have found from experience elsewhere (but not yet in Bloomington, alas. So many AMPs, so little time) that price for FS depends partly on local market conditions and competition. IE, if there are two or more working AMPs within a reasonable driving radius, price stays closer to 5 Jacksons where as if there is only one in an area the tip moves toward 7 Jacksons, making a total of 10 Jacksons for the whole visit. I never pay more than 10 Jacksons + a Hamilton (some places want an extra Hamilton for the TS and I always oblige).
But I have also found that currency matters. In a place where the regular tip (after house fee) may typically vary between 5 and 7 Jacksons, I find that if I put a Benjamin on the table I am usually (not always, but usually) not upsold. If I put 5 Jacksons on the table, the provider thinks there may be more of them. This takes a little preparation, since the ATMs usually spit out only Jacksons. My normal pattern is to walk in with 5 Jacksons. 1 Benjamin, and 1 Hamilton. I hide 2 of the Jacksons. Thus, I can give mamasan the 3 Jacksons (sometimes with the Hamilton if requested for the TS) and have only a Benjamin remaining BUT, if I really need them, and the provider is adamant, I have two more Jacksons (and maybe a Hamilton if not used previously) available. More often than not, I'll walk out the door satisfied and with two or three pieces of green, folded paper remaining in my pocket. I always leave wallet and everything except car key in the car locked up and hidden just to be safe.
Take a little extra time and stop by a bank or casino, get yourself set with the correct currency mix, and see if this strategy works for you.
Holden Caulfield[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hold Caulfield; 1779185]There's a discussion a bit earlier on this board about pricing: To avoid the decimal point confusion I'll use names. It seems that the general house fee is 3 Jacksons. This seems pretty consistent. The price for FS seems to be somewhat variable between 5 Jacksons and 7 Jacksons. I have found from experience elsewhere (but not yet in Bloomington, alas. So many AMPs, so little time) that price for FS depends partly on local market conditions and competition. IE, if there are two or more working AMPs within a reasonable driving radius, price stays closer to 5 Jacksons where as if there is only one in an area the tip moves toward 7 Jacksons, making a total of 10 Jacksons for the whole visit. I never pay more than 10 Jacksons + a Hamilton (some places want an extra Hamilton for the TS and I always oblige).
But I have also found that currency matters. In a place where the regular tip (after house fee) may typically vary between 5 and 7 Jacksons, I find that if I put a Benjamin on the table I am usually (not always, but usually) not upsold. If I put 5 Jacksons on the table, the provider thinks there may be more of them. This takes a little preparation, since the ATMs usually spit out only Jacksons. My normal pattern is to walk in with 5 Jacksons. 1 Benjamin, and 1 Hamilton. I hide 2 of the Jacksons. Thus, I can give mamasan the 3 Jacksons (sometimes with the Hamilton if requested for the TS) and have only a Benjamin remaining BUT, if I really need them, and the provider is adamant, I have two more Jacksons (and maybe a Hamilton if not used previously) available. More often than not, I'll walk out the door satisfied and with two or three pieces of green, folded paper remaining in my pocket. I always leave wallet and everything except car key in the car locked up and hidden just to be safe.
Take a little extra time and stop by a bank or casino, get yourself set with the correct currency mix, and see if this strategy works for you.
Holden Caulfield[/QUOTE]That's just a lot to read. Just make it simple. From all the AMPs I've visited in Detroit, Toledo, here, Ordando, Miami, Tampa, etc. I always pay $1. 80 every time for FS and a TS. Lay it all out at once so there are no games. I keep a $20 hidden if I need to go to $2. 00. Never been more, never been less. If you are paying less, than the provider must be a hag and not because you're a good customer. Good customers get extra attention, not discounts in pricing. The only time I've ever paid more in all of these cities is when I decided to do threesomes here in Blo / No. And I never paid more than $3. 00 during 4 different occurences of threesomes here
[QUOTE=Secondtime; 1778633][url]http://bn.craigslist.org/thp/3840919899.html[/url]
Open 9-9 every day. TOFTT?[/QUOTE]I heard that this place is legit in a popular strip mall. No extras. But a great massage. Not even close to extras or an extra value menu.
[QUOTE=Codyrocks;1779708]I heard that this place is legit in a popular strip mall. No extras. But a great massage. Not even close to extras or an extra value menu.[/QUOTE]Thanks Cody and Amp100. I decided not to go to this place based on your intel. Appreciate the heads up.
ST
Good News, the next generation of ATM's spit out Hundreds, Twenties, or Fives in any amount you request. They just put one in the walk in lobby of a Chase Bank and if you take out money you have to specify exactly how you want it on the next screen after choosing the amount.
[QUOTE=Hold Caulfield; 1779185]There's a discussion a bit earlier on this board about pricing: To avoid the decimal point confusion I'll use names. It seems that the general house fee is 3 Jacksons. This seems pretty consistent. The price for FS seems to be somewhat variable between 5 Jacksons and 7 Jacksons. I have found from experience elsewhere (but not yet in Bloomington, alas. So many AMPs, so little time) that price for FS depends partly on local market conditions and competition. IE, if there are two or more working AMPs within a reasonable driving radius, price stays closer to 5 Jacksons where as if there is only one in an area the tip moves toward 7 Jacksons, making a total of 10 Jacksons for the whole visit. I never pay more than 10 Jacksons + a Hamilton (some places want an extra Hamilton for the TS and I always oblige).
But I have also found that currency matters. In a place where the regular tip (after house fee) may typically vary between 5 and 7 Jacksons, I find that if I put a Benjamin on the table I am usually (not always, but usually) not upsold. If I put 5 Jacksons on the table, the provider thinks there may be more of them. This takes a little preparation, since the ATMs usually spit out only Jacksons. My normal pattern is to walk in with 5 Jacksons. 1 Benjamin, and 1 Hamilton. I hide 2 of the Jacksons. Thus, I can give mamasan the 3 Jacksons (sometimes with the Hamilton if requested for the TS) and have only a Benjamin remaining BUT, if I really need them, and the provider is adamant, I have two more Jacksons (and maybe a Hamilton if not used previously) available. More often than not, I'll walk out the door satisfied and with two or three pieces of green, folded paper remaining in my pocket. I always leave wallet and everything except car key in the car locked up and hidden just to be safe.
Take a little extra time and stop by a bank or casino, get yourself set with the correct currency mix, and see if this strategy works for you.
Holden Caulfield[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hold Caulfield; 1779185]In a place where the regular tip (after house fee) may typically vary between 5 and 7 Jacksons, I find that if I put a Benjamin on the table I am usually (not always, but usually) not upsold. If I put 5 Jacksons on the table, the provider thinks there may be more of them. This takes a little preparation, since the ATMs usually spit out only Jacksons. My normal pattern is to walk in with 5 Jacksons. 1 Benjamin, and 1 Hamilton. I hide 2 of the Jacksons. Thus, I can give mamasan the 3 Jacksons (sometimes with the Hamilton if requested for the TS) and have only a Benjamin remaining BUT, if I really need them, and the provider is adamant, I have two more Jacksons (and maybe a Hamilton if not used previously) available. More often than not, I'll walk out the door satisfied and with two or three pieces of green, folded paper remaining in my pocket. I always leave wallet and everything except car key in the car locked up and hidden just to be safe.
Holden Caulfield[/QUOTE]That's an interesting strategy. It's almost a psychological experiment: how the active mind reacts to various denominations I. E. What the brain believes it can gain through negotiation based upon the relevant negotiable instruments. Will the therapist see the Franklin and automatically reject the up-click to 2 Franklins as simply frivolous? Does the Jackson invite more precise haggling? What if I walked in with a jar of pennies, would I be laughed out? I'd like to hear about the experiences of other forum members, if I may.
[QUOTE=Codyrocks;1779705]I always pay $1. 80 every time for FS and a TS. Lay it all out at once so there are no games. I keep a $20 hidden if I need to go to $2. 00. Never been more, never been less. If you are paying less, than the provider must be a hag and not because you're a good customer. Good customers get extra attention, not discounts in pricing.[/QUOTE]I'll agree that regulars receive better attention, personal field studies have proven that to me. Also I'll agree that regulars do not necessarily receive discounts. I've had many a girl haggle when we first meet, despite my knowing the mama-san and other girls well. That's the individual girl working for her best compensation, and it's fair game.
A hag? No, there I diverge. My experience is that all but the absolute most stubborn girls will concede to 5 jacksons (in B / N area). Most ask for more, all but a few will agree to 5. In the past I've extended my offer to 6 or 7 jacksons, and never have I found the service to improve. Sometimes this requires you be firm, maybe be extra friendly at the point of sale. A smile and an arm around the girl has always brought me luck (always treat your therapist as a human being). If she can like you, you'll have better luck in more ways than one. Yes many of us attend these establishments for the ease of access, but a little tenderness goes a long way.
It all boils down to what you believe the experience is worth. We all bring our opinion to market, and the market thrives on product and consumption, you personally have a say in all this.
[QUOTE=NightOwl2548;1785281]Good News, the next generation of ATM's spit out Hundreds.[/QUOTE]You should have said,"Good News Everyone!" I'd have liked that.
Have visited several AMP's in the Peoria area going to try out Bloomington this weekend. Which is better, One Spa or Hong Kong?
June is back at HK. Also talked to a NG. V*ky. Hasn't been here before, younger. 5'4", Good body, but only talked, hope someone can provide a report.
I have hit every major AMP destination in the Upper Midwest over the last 15 years (at least places that have multiple parlors in a general area) but never been to Bloomington, IL.I need an exact report on what the girls look like. Are there some pleasant surprises or is it the same old 40+ Koreans that seem to clone themselves in virtually every other AMP? PM if you must. Thanks.
Two new girls at HK. First one in the room was very pleasant, but I politely asked for the other girl (whom I hadn't seen yet). Girl #1 a little chunky (not bad). Maybe 30 or younger, but just not my style. I wasn't attracted to her at all. Girl # 2 late 30's. Much much more attractive. Especially with hair down. Cute smile, very nice body. Tight.
My time with #2. Daisy. Was average. She gave a below average table shower, a really below average massage, and a very average, slightly rushed fun session after the massage. No fine dining, no time spent allowing hands and tongue to roam. Just a quick attempt to satisfy.
I will wait for new talent before returning.
YMMV.
[QUOTE=MisterJohn;1666849]I was led to the table room, and there I met Yuri or Yumi. (Couldn't quite get the name right).[/QUOTE]Though I know it has been nearly a year since this post I am glad I am not the only one who had nice massage from Yumi. She is definitely one of my all time favorites.
[QUOTE=Islay;1785546]That's an interesting strategy. It's almost a psychological experiment: how the active mind reacts to various denominations I. E. What the brain believes it can gain through negotiation based upon the relevant negotiable instruments. Will the therapist see the Franklin and automatically reject the up-click to 2 Franklins as simply frivolous? Does the Jackson invite more precise haggling? What if I walked in with a jar of pennies, would I be laughed out? I'd like to hear about the experiences of other forum members, if I may.
I'll agree that regulars receive better attention, personal field studies have proven that to me. Also I'll agree that regulars do not necessarily receive discounts. I've had many a girl haggle when we first meet, despite my knowing the mama-san and other girls well. That's the individual girl working for her best compensation, and it's fair game.
A hag? No, there I diverge. My experience is that all but the absolute most stubborn girls will concede to 5 jacksons (in B / N area). Most ask for more, all but a few will agree to 5. In the past I've extended my offer to 6 or 7 jacksons, and never have I found the service to improve. Sometimes this requires you be firm, maybe be extra friendly at the point of sale. A smile and an arm around the girl has always brought me luck (always treat your therapist as a human being). If she can like you, you'll have better luck in more ways than one. Yes many of us attend these establishments for the ease of access, but a little tenderness goes a long way.
It all boils down to what you believe the experience is worth. We all bring our opinion to market, and the market thrives on product and consumption, you personally have a say in all this.
You should have said,"Good News Everyone!" I'd have liked that.[/QUOTE]I pay $.60 all in, never a negotiation or push back. Pay mamasan then I put the $ (usually in Jacksons) but used others...never been any discussion or up-sale ever.
Been a couple years since I've ventured to an AMP there. Always went to Tokyo. But from the sounds of it in this forum. Yumi at One spa seems to be the best bet. Thinking of going there this weekend any suggestions?
I stopped by HK last night. I've never left an AMP after seeing the provider but did last night. Don't get me wrong, I've settled for less..just not what I wanted and I've decided that I will no longer settle when I'm the one paying. Hair was dull with a little wave to it, face was shiny, older looking than I like. She did have large artificials, decent English, and was pleasant enough when I declined and some may like her so I won't say avoid. However, if you like young with a pretty face, you might want to look elsewhere. She said that she was the only one working and the other lady had just went on vacation.
Well, I made the move to GR, MI, and just had to swing by HK on the way out. Met a provider that I had seen before (I think) but it had been a while. Said her name was Soonie (something like that) Older late 30's, decent top shelf, nice body. Massage was "Eh" but extras were nice. Huge nips, CBJ, Dog and mish, popped and on my way I went. Standard door + $(of course with the upsell attempt). Nice experience to hit the road with. Will miss BN, but from what I have read on the message boards in GR, there is some happy hunting there as well. Stay Safe everyone.
[QUOTE=FishingForSome;2019908]Well, I made the move to GR, MI, and just had to swing by HK on the way out. Met a provider that I had seen before (I think) but it had been a while. Said her name was Soonie (something like that) Older late 30's, decent top shelf, nice body. Massage was "Eh" but extras were nice. Huge nips, CBJ, Dog and mish, popped and on my way I went. Standard door + $(of course with the upsell attempt). Nice experience to hit the road with. Will miss BN, but from what I have read on the message boards in GR, there is some happy hunting there as well. Stay Safe everyone.[/QUOTE]Has anyone else had this provider named Soonie?? I'm conflicted as to whether I should go to HK or not after reading the last two reports. This report sounds great, but the last one made me want to skip it. Fishing...were they man made shelfs, or all natural? I'm not sure that I remember that name and I don't want to waste my time or money.
I need a sure thing, otherwise I might as well be taking a gamble with CL or BP.
Thanks... Be safe.
Does anyone have any experience with the AMP at Morris.
[QUOTE=Gottogo2;2028571]Does anyone have any experience with the AMP at Morris.[/QUOTE]It's best to just read the reviews for that in the Joliet section. Tons of reviews.
Just wondering if any new talent has arrived? I have seen Soonie before, she is ok. Just not wanting to settle for less than what I want.
Play safe.
ASA.
[QUOTE=AStepAbove1;2029618]Just wondering if any new talent has arrived? I have seen Soonie before, she is ok. Just not wanting to settle for less than what I want.
Play safe.
ASA.[/QUOTE]No New Talent there yet. Currently not the youngest or best looking gals, but I will say that the actual massage is well above standard right now. Better yet, there was no upsell or attitude to deal with.
[QUOTE=SpaSeeker;2029513]It's best to just read the reviews for that in the Joliet section. Tons of reviews.[/QUOTE]Went out to Morris once wasn't worth the drive. Subpar and haggling, nice option if you live close, but not worth a long drive out. YMMV.
Has anyone heard anything about the new place in Diamond, IL Smile Spa.
[QUOTE=Amp691;2046293]Has anyone heard anything about the new place in Diamond, IL Smile Spa.[/QUOTE]Look in Joliet Forum.
Was in town and in the mood. Have been to a couple other AMP's in Bloomington, but decided to try One Spa. Had a session with Yummi. She was the best. A tight, attractive body. Nice face. Lovely hair. And Amazing skills. The session was a little rushed, but I find most in an AMP are. It was well worth the time and I plan to return to see her again.
Will be in town this week and thought I might try the AMP on Main "I" which is never really reviewed here. Can someone PM me details on this location? I've been to many fine AMPs in the area. I heard the therapist here are a little older, but still attractive. Does "an older, wiser girl for me. " apply to "I"? Will I get a better non-rushed experience with them? PMs are mush appreciated.
Went to Hk looking for June because of great past experience. I did talk with her briefly but she was with a customer so introduced me to Jeni who I think has been here before but "wow" has she changed. Lost a lot of weight, longer hair. She's quite slender, long and tall and just looked great. Uppers are nothing compared to June but she said "wait until next time". Anyway, she's easy to understand and easy to talk with and I did find out that she worked for a construction company and knows a lot about the business. After the small talk we got down to the hammering part which was not only good but very good. The problem is who to do next time and the idea answer is both.
[QUOTE=RivasRick;2656755]Was in town and in the mood. Have been to a couple other AMP's in Bloomington, but decided to try One Spa. Had a session with Yummi. She was the best. A tight, attractive body. Nice face. Lovely hair. And Amazing skills. The session was a little rushed, but I find most in an AMP are. It was well worth the time and I plan to return to see her again.[/QUOTE]I to went. Had a great time and did not seem rushed. Yummi is smokin hot BTW.
Will repeat if in the area.
One Spa.
+1 for Yumi at One Spa. Monday afternoon, parking lot empty, only customer. Yumi is absolutely beautiful, very nice build, and she's very toned. I was able to feel some nice firm arm muscles when I gave her a hug. Too bad she's here and not back home. Actually probably a good thing otherwise I'd be broke.
[QUOTE=FreightShaker1;2670434]I to went. Had a great time and did not seem rushed. Yummi is smokin hot BTW.
Will repeat if in the area.[/QUOTE]I agree. Yummi is smokin' hot. I will repeat when I have a chance, too.
I'll be in town in a few weeks.
When I was down there a few years ago I would see June at HK. Never ended up at One because I did not need to.
Now maybe looking for a change. Should I give One a shot, stick with tried and true, or is there somewhere else that I show look at?
I usually look for FS or sometimes just a BJ.
Thanks.
CB.
[QUOTE=Croppyboy;2830381]I'll be in town in a few weeks.
When I was down there a few years ago I would see June at HK. Never ended up at One because I did not need to.
Now maybe looking for a change. Should I give One a shot, stick with tried and true, or is there somewhere else that I show look at?
I usually look for FS or sometimes just a BJ.
Thanks.
CB.[/QUOTE]I will be trying HK within the next week, and will post a review. Haven't heard much lately, so it's time to TOFTT. June must not be there now, otherwise we would have been hearing about it. My last trip was to One, and it was as good as usual. Sometimes the hunt for new talent is more exciting than tried & true service!
I hit Ivy Spa early last week. It was my first time to the Bloomington area, so I really didn't know what to expect. Met an older woman named Tina who provided a decent table shower followed by an acceptable massage. She played around and teased during the massage, and I reached under her skirt when she did so. On the flip when negotiated a little play time for $ tip. She provided a great BBBJTC collecting every last drop in her mouth. It was a very good time. I might actually return this week.
[QUOTE=RizonMan1969;2835289]I hit Ivy Spa early last week. It was my first time to the Bloomington area, so I really didn't know what to expect. Met an older woman named Tina who provided a decent table shower followed by an acceptable massage. She played around and teased during the massage, and I reached under her skirt when she did so. On the flip when negotiated a little play time for $ tip. She provided a great BBBJTC collecting every last drop in her mouth. It was a very good time. I might actually return this week.[/QUOTE]$ tip for FS?
[QUOTE=ArcticIce;2835807]$ tip for FS?[/QUOTE]I think that was the plan, but after about 15 minutes of BBBJ, I unloaded in her mouth. She teased me that we didn't make it any further, but I was very well satisfied.
It's been awhile since I've been to HK, wondering if anyone has a report. Won't be in Bloomington for long and want to make the most of it.
[QUOTE=SpaSeeker;2834334]I will be trying HK within the next week, and will post a review. Haven't heard much lately, so it's time to TOFTT. June must not be there now, otherwise we would have been hearing about it. My last trip was to One, and it was as good as usual. Sometimes the hunt for new talent is more exciting than tried & true service![/QUOTE]Been a week. Anything to post?
[QUOTE=Hawke;2841495]It's been awhile since I've been to HK, wondering if anyone has a report. Won't be in Bloomington for long and want to make the most of it.[/QUOTE]Anything to post?