Massage Parlor Reports

I asked members a while back about Paradise after my last visit to AZ and preferring Asian women, decided to visit one of those instead. Thanks to all the posts in this section I picked up a copy of New Times and was amazed at the selection of places to visit. I stopped by Asian Town at Power & Southern and was a little creeped out at the older Asian guy hanging out in the waiting area, but kind of liked the MILF woman behind the counter. Continued to Asian Gal at Gilbert & 60 just to look and the woman behind the counter didn't do much for me so I continued on to a place a little south of Broadway on Gilbert. Girl who came to the counter was pretty hot and a nice little body so I asked for the hour massage and she said "too busy, half hour only" and gave me $5 off with my coupon. Unfortunately I made the mistake of only having a $100 bill (figuring on doing the full hour) so she knew I had $65 left. Requested the table shower and she did a nice job washing everything. Went back into the room and she said "face up". I guess w/the 1/2 hour and table shower you get no massage at all because she immediately started with johnson and whispers "what you want today"? I asked for BJ and she said it would be $160. Laughing I said I would pay her $65, knowing she wouldn't, but said she would do nude HS for that. She did have an amazing body but kept wriggling away when I'd try between her legs. Her technique was pretty good tho and put her face a few inches away from johnson with her mouth open. I kept arching my back but she would pull away a little. I tried like hell to deposit into her mouth but to no avail. Paid more for the HS than I would have liked but I learned a lesson there and will give a report on my visit to Asian Town the next day later on.

Second day in AZ I went to Asian Town Massage in a strip mall off of Power & Southern. The MILF that was at the counter the previous day wasn't there (and fortunately the creepy Asian guy wasn't either) but an attractive, younger one greeted me. $5 coupon in hand I requested the 1/2 hour massage. Based on my mistake from the previous day and since it was 9:30 AM and I had just showered, skipped the offer of a table shower. She said she would be back in 4 minutes. About 10 minutes later she popped her head in the room and said just a couple more minutes. After waiting a total of at least 15 minutes she came in and was very apologetic and nice. Fairly good English.

Started a pretty decent massage of the shoulders and back. She started using some baby oil, which isn't usually too bad, but she was VERY liberal with it. But after about 10 minutes of massage, she must have taken down her dress because she was rubbing her tits up and down my back. After a few groans and asking if I liked that she says "butt in air". Not to question at that point I did. She then proceeded to squirt about half the bottle of baby oil on my ass crack, inserted a finger from one hand and started playing with my nuts and woody with her other hand. Wasn't real sure I was digging the finger up the butt routine and I think she sensed that and stopped. She was whispering, 'does that feel good-do you want to feel better?'. I turned around and told her just to keep doing the HJ and she says 'that will be 80'. I told her I don't pay more than 40 for HJ at home, but agreed to go 50.

She didn't complain that it seemed to have taken a while for me to get off, not like at some places. But when I was done, all she did was wipe my dick off with some tissues. I had so much baby oil on me I smelled like a baby's ass and was ready to slip off the table. I asked for and received a hot towel, which got most of the oil out of my crack. I suggest if you're going home to a wife or SO afterwards, well, maybe you shouldn't. All in all, not bad. Said her name was Sandy.

Sorry for the long post guys, but it's still fresh in my memory....

Anyone have any type of experience with Friction Massage on McDowell>

[QUOTE=Ride00]Anyone have any type of experience with Friction Massage on McDowell>[/QUOTE]

Yes, Pam is very good, she will 69, nice personality. Kay can be a *****, but 69'd her also. The problem I have with this place is that they charge 2 benjamins and will not negotiate. House price is $70 1hr, $50 1/2 hr. forget how much 45min. was. Thai ladies. If you don't mind paying these prices more power to you.

OU812

[QUOTE=OU812]Yes, Pam is very good, she will 69, nice personality. Kay can be a *****, but 69'd her also. The problem I have with this place is that they charge 2 benjamins and will not negotiate. House price is $70 1hr, $50 1/2 hr. forget how much 45min. was. Thai ladies. If you don't mind paying these prices more power to you.

OU812[/QUOTE]
Thanks for info. I ended up trying a girl named Trish from Craigslist. I was pleasantly surprised. I may hit Friction this weekend.

Any other recent information on other AMP's?

Anyone have any info on the original Bali Hai in Mesa. Drove by the other day and they have a big plastic sign that simply reads "Massage"
DN

The old sign was still up when I went there a few
weeks back. Havent been in the past 3 or 4 though
so wouldnt know the latest

AzD

The place at Elliot and Dobson, are they still open? I went by there on a Sunday several weeks ago, checked several times between noon & 5PM, nobody was there. Had to settle for Massage Ace before leaving town drained but unhappy.

BH is still up and running as ever. The old gal that either owns or manages (Nunu or Nana) is still there. Supposedly has a new gal in town from CA for a month, did not see her.

That place drives me crazy as they sometimes get hot gals, but they never stay in town very long.
AJ

Made a trip to Masage Ace because of its close location to where I am at.\

I brought in the 5 to 10 dollar coupon I read about on this board.

Was greeted by yolanda. I had to beg for the "FREE SHOWER" advertised on the coupon. I was told I could get a 30 minute only .4.

Shower was as quick as I have ever had. Lots of attention to the shoot and important part though.

Masage or should I say rub down with lotion lasted 2 minutes tops.

On the flip got the crazy prices. Talked down to .8 for cbj N.

The work done there made up for the rush. Got the typical me love you baby gota go come back. Dresed myself and left. Obviously one of you mongers must of been interupted by my session and she was the only one working.

Might of been a interesting encounter had it not been rushed.

I might have to check out some sugestions tomorow from a fellow monger.

Thanks for the sugestions guys.

Ok thought I should start contributing. So went to amp here at broadway and lindsay saw koko not to bad looking about a 7. A bit older. So paid the usaul door fee got a decent massage for about 10 minutes and usual turn over. Started the list 1.2 bj 2.0 for everything. I gave her that look of you have got to be kidding. Wouldnt budge on price on anything at that point. I was nice through out this whole process as was she.

Told her on the way out that competition is very strong and really need to lower prices.

If I wanted to toss that kinda dough around I might as well just goto Accupressure on curry.

Not to into the amp scene more of a cl guy so I will be posting all my experiences as I go now.

Happy hunting Gentlemen

This place has been a rip off for a long time. In fact, nearly all of the newer Asian places are rippers. Some of the old time AMP's like Bali Hai and OK SPA have been really reasonable

I went into that place once to inquire and look at the ladies. They all jumped like they had been shot when I came in. I didn't get anywhere with them and they gave me the bum's rush.

Turns out I forgot I had on my hat which had a Lea County New Mexico Sheriff Dept patch on it. Good for a chuckle anyway.

After a hard day of golf today, I decided I needed to work the kinks out. I called Tender Touch and set up an appt for 8:00 PM based on the recommendation of another member. Showed up at 7:55 and waited in the reception area until 8:35. Nobody ever showed up and I got bored waiting. I'll try it again since the recommendation seemed good, but now I'll be wary. Since they aren't open on weekends as she told me on the phone, I'll have to do it some night after work.

So my backup plan kicked in and I decided to try one of the Cave Creek AMPs and stopped at Fantastic Spa. The girl in front took my $60 for an hour at 8:45 and off I went. There was a real nice looking little spinner in the front room but she wasn't really dressed to look like a masseuse. I asked for her to help me but she shied away. The girl who took my money came in and started in on my back rub. "Back rub" is a bit of a stretch since she really only rubbed my shoulders and then told me to flip after about 10 minutes. Unfortunately, I was hoping for a real massage for at least 30-40 minutes, but that wasn't in her plans. She requested again that I flip after 15 minutes and I told her I wasn't ready.

"Baby, I make you ready."

"Well, try again in 10 minutes" was my reply.

Same request at 18, 21, 25 and 30 minutes. So at 30 minutes I finally flip over since the back rub and very brief leg massage was uninspiring. She immediately asked if I wanted anything else and started leaning into my arm and shoulder. Now I have to say that she wasn't bad looking, but I was kind of irritated with her for the lackluster massage, so I said, "Maybe later. For now, keep up with the massage." Well, that wasn't part of her plans so I continued to receive the chest rub with lotion until she asked again if "I was ready?" at the 32 minute mark.

So now I ask what else can be done. She says, "Anything you want to do, baby...$200." Well, that wasn't happening. Since her initial effort was so poor, I figured the rest would be poor as well. So I said "thanks anyway" and asked for her to continue working on my back. Well, that went over like a fart in church, so at 40 minutes into the session, she says "All done. You tip, please." I said we still had time on the clock, but she repeatedly insisted my time was up.

Well, I left a small tip that didn't please her and then said next time I would like a real hour. That was a bit over her head in the vocabulary departmen, so I picked up my things and hit the road.

So the bottom line...Fantastic Spa is not so "fantastic" and I'm not a real fan. I hope you guys have better luck than I did.

Be Safe!

[QUOTE=Override]If I wanted to toss that kinda dough around I might as well just goto Accupressure on curry.[/QUOTE]Not really being from the area(Tucson) but is the place on curry the most expensive? Also are the girls there more attractive then other places?

[QUOTE=Skuld3163]Not really being from the area(Tucson) but is the place on curry the most expensive? Also are the girls there more attractive then other places?[/QUOTE]Yup probably has the best and youngest looking girls for the price. Not really cheap. .65 door 2.0 for the girl you can talk some of them down but they wont budge much.

Happy hunting

[QUOTE=Override]Yup probably has the best and youngest looking girls for the price. Not really cheap. .65 door 2.0 for the girl you can talk some of them down but they wont budge much.

Happy hunting[/QUOTE]I have been to Accupressure massage many times. I have never been turned down for extras. I was just there a couple of weeks ago. All the girls there wear these short asian style dresses that barely cover there ass, and are strapless. Easy on-easy off. This last time I was there I got a girl named Chrissy. At least a 7. A nice ass and big tits that looked and felt real but hard to tell. She gave a lousy 10 minute rub on my back then the flip. She stripped down and we got to it. She was the TIGHTEST girl I have ever been with. If you have the money thats the place to go. If you get an average massage you probably did better than most. I am rarely there the full session. If you know this in advance and accept thats the way they run the business its easier to take. ....Another AMP i like is the Bellagio Spa and Massage on Bell RD. East of I 17. This use to be an AMP by Dear Valley Airport but they closed and reopened on Bell. A girl by the name of RUBY is the best. Shes short and petite, nice smile. She can actually give a pretty good massage. She knows how to use her knuckles, forearms, and hands to give a maassage. Then she seems to get into the extras as well. FS=1.6 No rush service. Keep the reports coming so we can reward those girls that do give good service with our business.

I was in Scottsdale on business, arrived late in the evening, the following AM I went out for breakfast and then drove around exploring. Note, I had never been to an AMP, and didn't know anything about the experience. It was only AFTER this experience that I did a little research and came upon this site.

Anyway, I came across a massage place I think right around Drinkwater, near Scottsdale Blvd., next to a retirement home, and I think near a hospital. Anyway, I was achy from a long flight and figured I should get a massage, I actually thought it was going to be legit, and a lot less expensive than the hotel.

I went in paid .6 for an hour massage. The cute girl at the desk led me to a room, had me undress and get on the table. She came back and started massaging my back with HAND LOTION, very strange. This lasted awhile and then lower on the back and then some light tickling which definitley perked me up. I flipped and she asked what I would like, she pointed to her mouth? I of course said of course, she said $.20, not knowing better I agreed, and it was ok. No great shakes. She said it was ok to touch her everywhere, but did not totally remove her clothes.

Since this was my first experience it was kinda exciting although from what others have described not the ultimate experience :)

Upon leaving I did get a bit depressed, they had a couple of massage rooms, a kitchen (with a poster of the human body with massage points on it), and here's the depressing part, I passed a room with a mattress on the floor, with an older women in it (her mother?) holding an infant (grandchild). It looked like they may have been living out of this room. Talk about a buzz killer?

I am sure I will make out better on my next visit!

Visited the RG yesterday and saw Michelle. Went for the hour and have to say that I experienced the best real massage I've ever had. Backwalking, hot packs, etc etc. Felt totally relaxed. She is an older girl maybe 35-40ish. 90# with 1/2 A cup titties. Very professional and thorough. All services were rendered and left feeling that my .6 entry and 1.4 tip were well deserved.

Thanks OU812 for your earlier post re: Michelle. She is indeed a massage gem. Some may prefer the younger types, but for getting your money's worth, the older gals are the way to go.

DN

Had some time between appt's today, so stopped into this place in the Papago Plaza (Scottsdale/McDowell rd)

Tried to get ahold of Tiffany for a repeat of Mon. night, but no go... so what the heck..

Lame light touch massage a bit of finger in the 'you know where' action, then the flip. $$$.0 for f/s get the 'f' out.. I counter with $.0 end up settling for a nude prostate massage/hj for .75 whatever..

If you want some decent prices this is *not* the place to go..

YMMV

ps tracy was the gals name

[QUOTE=Az Dude]Had some time between appt's today, so stopped into this place in the Papago Plaza (Scottsdale/McDowell rd)

Tried to get ahold of Tiffany for a repeat of Mon. night, but no go... so what the heck..

Lame light touch massage a bit of finger in the 'you know where' action, then the flip. $$$.0 for f/s get the 'f' out.. I counter with $.0 end up settling for a nude prostate massage/hj for .75 whatever..

If you want some decent prices this is *not* the place to go..

YMMV

ps tracy was the gals name[/QUOTE]I frequented the AMP in Papago Plaza often at the end of last year and beginning of this year and had a good time. My friend, Linda, who provided the services moved on in April '06 and the place wasn't the same. Did the cute little lady with the really high, squeaky voice serve you? She seemed to be the mamasan (very young one) but she did service me one night--she was the one really wanting to charge a high price. Linda used to charge me .80 for the massage and .80 for any extracurricular activities. Squeaky wanted 2.00 for anything. I went back in October when I moved back here, but Linda wasn't back so I moved on.

I prefer Korean AMP but all I've found in PHX are Chinese. Any Koreans out there?

[QUOTE=IWannaBInAsia]I frequented the AMP in Papago Plaza often at the end of last year and beginning of this year and had a good time. My friend, Linda, who provided the services moved on in April '06 and the place wasn't the same. Did the cute little lady with the really high, squeaky voice serve you? She seemed to be the mamasan (very young one) but she did service me one night--she was the one really wanting to charge a high price. Linda used to charge me .80 for the massage and .80 for any extracurricular activities. Squeaky wanted 2.00 for anything. I went back in October when I moved back here, but Linda wasn't back so I moved on.

I prefer Korean AMP but all I've found in PHX are Chinese. Any Koreans out there?[/QUOTE]Accu on curry but pricey!

Gil and broad.

Had a dream aout these places. Let me share!

Ok there's 2 here. First asian gals. Freaking ridiculous prices kinda cute girl with short hair. Massage was omg i have a very srong threshold for pain but told her to back it off a notch. Her response just breath in. WTF haha. Anyways this went on for like 25 mins. Did the flip with tears rollin. So the usual deal again asked the usual fs she says 2.0. Gave her my you've got to be kidding look which i have had a lot of practice on lately, and said no thx. Plus i think she broke something in my back i was messed up for a couple of days. So 2 thumbs down on this one.

Next. Same complex just a bit north. Much older lady gets me usual deal but with table shower. They have a sauna which is included if u get hr. Only got half hour. So got a decent rub and flip scenario about 10 min into rub. Usual ?'s and when asked how much she says whatever u want for fs. Gave my you've gotta be kidding look and so she says just leave on the table. So she steps out and I am confussed as hell so put 1.0 down. she comes back looks at table and smiles. Keep in mind the way I placed it u could never tell total in there. Decent fs nothing to brag about. So during the walk she mentions another girl works there also. Tells me next time just leave tip on table from the get go. Pretty sure you could leave less considering she never checks it until after the fact.

One thumb up.

Then I woke up.

Safe hunting!

[QUOTE=IWannaBInAsia]I prefer Korean AMP but all I've found in PHX are Chinese. Any Koreans out there?[/QUOTE]

I am not sure of your experiences with AMPS, but I have been mongering for enough years in the valley and other cities to know that 90% or better of the amp girls are Koreans. I have conversed with many of my 'faves' about their origin countries.

BTW, I just posted re: a Korean provider.

Actually it would be intriguing to engage a Japanese, Thai or Chinese provider.

Please let us know where any of these alternate asian providers work.... or PM if you choose.

Thanks for your input. :)

DN

[QUOTE=Dick North]I am not sure of your experiences with AMPS, but I have been mongering for enough years in the valley and other cities to know that 90% or better of the amp girls are Koreans. I have conversed with many of my 'faves' about their origin countries.

BTW, I just posted re: a Korean provider.

Actually it would be intriguing to engage a Japanese, Thai or Chinese provider.

Please let us know where any of these alternate asian providers work.... or PM if you choose.

Thanks for your input. :)

DN[/QUOTE]DN,

Thanks for the info. I saw your prior report on the Korean provider and marked it down on my list of "next stops."

I won't claim to be a long-time vet, but have been to many AMPs in Tampa (all Korean), Dallas (many are Korean, couple Chinese) and some in Phoenix. I've yet to meet a Korean AMP in Phoenix. So far they've all been Chinese. And before someone blames me for saying they all look alike, I speak pretty decent Korean.

The ones i've visited in PHX (and my experience) consist of:

AMP on 59th & Greenway - Chinese. Poor massage/okay post-game service.

Thai Massage on Alma School (Tempe/Mesa) - Chinese. Many good massages and some very good times, but also some forgettable times. Nina was a tiny girl (she also told me her name was Fancy another time) who gave a great massage and back walk and liked to giggle during the post-game show. Kind of made it difficult to finish but that was what made it fun for her, I guess. I haven't been there for 2-3 months and am due for a return.

Flamingo at 49th & Glendale - Chinese. Good massage/poor post-game. It was my first visit to an AMP in Phoenix in late 2005. She wasn't happy about it and it was very mechanical.

Magic Massage in Papago Plaza mentioned in prior post - Chinese. Good massage with Linda and very good extracurricular service. But Linda is gone these days back to SF.

Fantastic Spa on Cave Creek - Chinese. Bad massage and no experience at service (mentioned in recent report below).

Besides Thai Massage, my funniest time (not action) was with Best Asian Spa on Main in Mesa. I called ahead on a Sunday late afternoon and asked where the girls were from. Mamasan said Korea...I thought great. I get there and there's only the old mamasan so she gives me the massage. I think, well the massage is good and she said Korean, so I start talking to her. She makes a few replies in Chinese and I know she's speaking nowhere close to Korean. So I continue to ask, "Huh? What did you say?" She gets embarrassed and starts laughing and says, "You call me before. You didn't tell me you knew Korean. You catch me in big lie." So she finishes a very good massage and asks if I want more. "No thanks," I reply only because she was a bit old for my taste (I'm talking at least late 50's to 60). But we ended up talking for another hour and she makes me a sandwich and a coke. We talked for a while and she told me about some other places in Mesa and their history...no good there, no clean towels...no good there, bad girls, always lazy....etc. But she also said that the places change personalities so frequently that it was hard for her to recommend a place.

So if I'm just striking out in Phoenix and missing the Korean spots, please let me know. I'm open to suggestions either here or PM. A couple local mongers have been good enough to send some PMs with some recommendations. I haven't tried them all yet, but I appreciate the assistance. I've only been going to the Phoenix spots since Nov 05 through May 06 and just returned to the Valley an early Oct.

And if you ever make it to Tampa, make sure you check the Tampa board out because there is one AMP there that has spoiled many of us forever (Osaka). Prices are so good and massages so good, I miss the place. And the girls are all Korean. Speaking with them usually gets me a free meal of kimchi and rice after the fun and games if business is slow in the afternoons when I usually went.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Member #3025]I have been to Accupressure massage many times. I have never been turned down for extras. I was just there a couple of weeks ago. All the girls there wear these short asian style dresses that barely cover there ass, and are strapless. Easy on-easy off. This last time I was there I got a girl named Chrissy. At least a 7. A nice ass and big tits that looked and felt real but hard to tell. She gave a lousy 10 minute rub on my back then the flip. She stripped down and we got to it. She was the TIGHTEST girl I have ever been with. If you have the money thats the place to go. If you get an average massage you probably did better than most. I am rarely there the full session. If you know this in advance and accept thats the way they run the business its easier to take. ....Another AMP i like is the Bellagio Spa and Massage on Bell RD. East of I 17. This use to be an AMP by Dear Valley Airport but they closed and reopened on Bell. A girl by the name of RUBY is the best. Shes short and petite, nice smile. She can actually give a pretty good massage. She knows how to use her knuckles, forearms, and hands to give a maassage. Then she seems to get into the extras as well. FS=1.6 No rush service. Keep the reports coming so we can reward those girls that do give good service with our business.[/QUOTE]Thanks man. This Bellagio place is sneaky mexican certified. Its good stuff. I met a girl by mimi. I coud say she was a 7 in the face but in the body she was a 9. Very nice. Like he said it was $. 6 so I had alot of fun. Specially with the mirrors.

Back around 5 years ago, most of the AMP places in town were staffed with Koreans. I spent a lot of coin but had a nice time in places like Rambo/Rainbow Spa, One Spa, J Spa, and Kim's Sunshine Spa. The gals provided good service and did not expect outrageous prices.

Now most of the gals and places in town are Chinese (like those Asian Gals places all over), and they are all business - that is, out to drain your wallet while only providing subpar service.

AJ

[QUOTE=Arizona Jack]Back around 5 years ago, most of the AMP places in town were staffed with Koreans. I spent a lot of coin but had a nice time in places like Rambo/Rainbow Spa, One Spa, J Spa, and Kim's Sunshine Spa. The gals provided good service and did not expect outrageous prices.

Now most of the gals and places in town are Chinese (like those Asian Gals places all over), and they are all business - that is, out to drain your wallet while only providing subpar service.

AJ[/QUOTE]

AZJACK has it nailed just right. I say boycott the hell out of them. Run em off. We all know where the old standards for service are located We should stick with them and send these newcomer fools back to California where they belong.

Of course, that is a why we have the USA SG, so we can pass one the word on the rippers. We need to make up a boycott list and post it ever so often or make a whole new thread in the Arizona Board for rip offs and places to absolutely avoid.

The power of the pen is mightier than the lotion bottle...

I know there is one Korean Lady who works at the Tokyo Salon spa at 51st ave just a few blocks north of Bethany Home across from the Ford dealer. She is one very good bang for the money. Maybe early 40's, but she has plenty of what it takes and a nice bod too. Nina is her name.

[QUOTE=IWannaBInAsia]
DN,
Thanks for the info. I saw your prior report on the Korean provider and marked it down on my list of "next stops."
I won't claim to be a long-time vet, but have been to many AMPs in Tampa (all Korean), Dallas (many are Korean, couple Chinese) and some in Phoenix. I've yet to meet a Korean AMP in Phoenix. So far they've all been Chinese.
[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your input! Perhaps my circle of experience has grown too small to fully appreciate the amp demographic changes taking place. I did a little research and discovered that in 2005, Korea, Canada, and the US agreed to impose limitations on the US visa waiver system because of the flood of "human trafficking/sex slave" activities (mostly from Korea). As AJ said, most of the amps 5 years ago were Korean. I agree and enjoyed many similar experiences as AJ did.
I suspect, that because of the pressure placed on the Korean traffic that the 'importers' have found other sources for the amps. Unfortunately, it appears that many of these newcomers (Chinese) have notions of making $ that exceed what the market wants to bear.
I have had a few encounters with the new Chinese girls, some good and some bad, but I have to agree with Merlin, that the prices they are asking deserves a protest.

DN

[QUOTE=Dick North]I did a little research and discovered that in 2005, Korea, Canada, and the US agreed to impose limitations on the US visa waiver system because of the flood of "human trafficking/sex slave" activities (mostly from Korea). As AJ said, most of the amps 5 years ago were Korean. I agree and enjoyed many similar experiences as AJ did.DN[/QUOTE]I wondered why the Korean industry was drying up. That must be the reason. The same thing happened in Korea recently. I lived in Seoul in the mid-90's and also from 2001-2003. The Bush Administration started really pressuring the local governments to shut down the sex industry near military bases. Before I go further, this is not a Bush Bash, just a documented fact or at least the reason the Seoul Herald and The Economist gave for the new pressure. It also happened in Japan and reportedly in Europe but I don't have first hand knowledge of Europe.

If any of you spent any time in Itaewon in your younger days and have fond memories of the area, the Korean girls basically disappeared in the late 1990's (that's what economic growth and prosperity will do for you). I'd say more than 90% of the industry is staffed by Russian (on the other hand, that's what economic implosion does for you) and Filipinos (my hats's off to the Filipina!). The remainder include some Koreans and even a couple Americans who filled the void for the GIs (mainly officers) missing their American girl back home. So it looks like the Koreans are being forced out of the sex trade on a global scale. Too bad, but it looks like my Yobo ("honey" for those who don't know) will have to be in my memories and not in a local AMP.

Jackson and the group, my apologies if this should have been on the International Forum rather than Phoenix.

I managed to walk out of Fuji today.

I did the usual 29.95 half hour. Mimi used be happy with a 40 tip for HJ. Now she is upselling again like a hardened old pro. Wanted 60 for handshake and no topless.

I got up put on my clothes, threw her a ten and left. She was down to 30 before I got to the front door. I told her and that old ***** mamasan, Adios, muhfuggers.

So... I wasted 40 bucks. BFD. Better than wasting the 30 plus 60. I hope I made my point with them.

If it happens more often, they will back off. Once the demand slows, the costs will go back down. Supply and demand elasticity. # 1 Simplest lesson in Eco 101.

Merlin, you da man! I thought I was the only one who ever did this. Not that I'm some martyr who never gives in at all, but every so often I do a walkout myself. Last 2 times were at Fuji and at Massage Ace.

Every so often, the big head wins. And most of us have "known" places for success to fall back on.

Willy

[QUOTE=Merlin Magician]I managed to walk out of Fuji today.

I did the usual 29.95 half hour. Mimi used be happy with a 40 tip for HJ. Now she is upselling again like a hardened old pro. Wanted 60 for handshake and no topless.

I got up put on my clothes, threw her a ten and left. She was down to 30 before I got to the front door. I told her and that old ***** mamasan, Adios, muhfuggers.

So... I wasted 40 bucks. BFD. Better than wasting the 30 plus 60. I hope I made my point with them.

If it happens more often, they will back off. Once the demand slows, the costs will go back down. Supply and demand elasticity. # 1 Simplest lesson in Eco 101.[/QUOTE]

I am not against AMP's. I have great respect for services I have had from Rose Garden, Nancy at OK Spa, Nina at Tokyo salon, and Lee at A Tender Touch.

It's these greedy assed newcomers who have invaded PHX and replaced all of the more established parlors.

It's this new breed that is making a big deal out of short changing us on services and over pricing things.

I say: "Weed em out!"

If the sign say Massage Elite, Friction, Asian Gals, Fuji, Massage Ace, or just massage with no name, I ain't goin in.

Iwannabi has it on the nose. Bush and his bible thumpin cronies along with Canada has dried up the paperwork on Koreans coming here.

Add to this that S. Korea is now a high priced economy and the girls are making good bucks there now. Why come to Canada and the US when one can do good money at home?

I note that the Massage Elites in Chandler and in Tempe have both gone belly-up, with landlord takeover notices in the windows. No great loss, they were always upselling or being very limited in what they offered.

I am sad to see that the two Asian Breeze stores are gone. Those were Chinese places, but the service was decent and the prices were not outrageous.

AJ

[QUOTE=Arizona Jack]I note that the Massage Elites in Chandler and in Tempe have both gone belly-up, with landlord takeover notices in the windows. No great loss, they were always upselling or being very limited in what they offered.
I am sad to see that the two Asian Breeze stores are gone. Those were Chinese places, but the service was decent and the prices were not outrageous.
AJ[/QUOTE]
AJ,
I went to the Tempe location the first week they opened (during the day) and was concerned as to it's conspicuous location immediately next door to a very busy FedEx office. At night, they were the only business open and I avoided the place because I would be so obvious.
Anyway, the service was ok and price reasonable, but decided not to go back because of the location.
A few others may have come to the same conclusion and decided to avoid the place. Seemed to be a poor business decision to locate there and perhaps that contributed to their demise. Never tried the other location.
DN

[QUOTE=Merlin Magician]I am not against AMP's. I have great respect for services I have had from Rose Garden, Nancy at OK Spa, Nina at Tokyo salon, and Lee at A Tender Touch.

It's these greedy assed newcomers who have invaded PHX and replaced all of the more established parlors.

It's this new breed that is making a big deal out of short changing us on services and over pricing things.

I say: "Weed em out!"

If the sign say Massage Elite, Friction, Asian Gals, Fuji, Massage Ace, or just massage with no name, I ain't goin in.[/QUOTE]


I see Merlin has Rose Garden on his list. And I have to 2nd, and agree that Rose Garden does offer respectable services. But they have to get to know you first before the fun starts. Was just there Sunday and saw Jean (she gives a hard back massage), who is Korean. I as able to DATY, and F/S for 1.4. I don't get that nowhere else for that price, unless I'm in DC where the price is even less. Aztec & Friction offer DATY but their prices are outrageous. At Friction I had an encounter with a young thai girl, I forget her name but apparently she got injured (had a bad back), she mounted me and we went for a minute or two then said she couldn't go on, so I told her to lay down and let me do the work, we tried but said that she hurt, again I went only a minute or two. She then finished me off with a hj. I only tipped her a benjamin, she wasn't happy. Next time I go to Friction I see Kay, after I get undressed Kay comes into the room and says that I have to pay the 2 benjamins upfront so we won't have any problems. I get kind of insulted when they do this. So I said forget it, dressed and left. I hadn't been back there until I was able to get Pam, that was last December. Pam use to take care of me real good 4 or 5 years ago, we use to talk and she would tell me about her son in Texas, and how she missed Thailand. I thought that maybe Pam would remember me and give me a break, she said that she did but really don't think so. No go she didn't give me a break, she wanted $$, I paid, the service was great but I can go elsewhere for cheaper. I really liked Pam but like her co-workers she raised her prices.

OU812

[QUOTE=Merlin Magician]I am not against AMP's. I have great respect for services I have had from Rose Garden, Nancy at OK Spa, Nina at Tokyo salon, and Lee at A Tender Touch.
It's these greedy assed newcomers who have invaded PHX and replaced all of the more established parlors.
It's this new breed that is making a big deal out of short changing us on services and over pricing things.
I say: "Weed em out!"
If the sign say Massage Elite, Friction, Asian Gals, Fuji, Massage Ace, or just massage with no name, I ain't goin in.[/QUOTE]
Merlin,
I completely agree with you. The problem however, is that many clients of these new amps obviously have the $ to spend and simply don't care about price. In a town of nearly 4 mil, there are a hell of a lot of rich guys whose wives are at the spa while they are doinking some amp girl for $$$. A lot of these people are here for conventions, meetings, vacations etc.
Maybe we should launch a campaign to enlist more USG members and get the word out. Perhaps Jackson could put up a few billboards on I-10 lol.

I am with you tho, I wish that we could all make a stronger collective statement regarding the prices these girls are asking.

I guess the best approach for now is just to walk out whenever we are confronted with upsell or unreasonable prices.

DN

Of course earlier here, I listed the AMP's I have great regard for. However, I feel I should have included my fave non Asian MP's too.

Brandy's A Touch of Heaven ( ATOH) on N Cave Creek is absolutely just that. If you like big ol BBW Murkin girls, Brady's hits the spot. Malissa there is a real sweetie. (too bad she is a retirin') If you have never experienced a back rub from the absolutely evil Brandy, you missin' out Bub! It is my all time # 1 fave.

Next, if one has a just few minutes to spare and need a little quick massage relief, (nudge nudge, wink wink) the Right Touch on Indian School is a darn good bet. Murkin girls there too. Not raving beauties, but reasonable in cost there. My all time # 2 fave.

Third is Caroline's Malibu Massage on Camelback just east of Central is good too. It is next to that high over-priced Egyptian themed massage joint.

Now dropped to 4th place is the Mid Town on 16th St. When Cindy was there it was ok and reasonable. The big plus was they had a hot Jacuzzi bath.

She has four ads on CL today. If I didn't know better, It sure looks like LE.