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So this girl is not model material and she's not in Phoenix, but she is sweet and honest. She is small in stature but has a full figure. If you travel towards California, she might be worth your time.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b015b...8-6c7c61176993[/URL]
[QUOTE=Old20;4390760]So this girl is not model material and she's not in Phoenix, but she is sweet and honest. She is small in stature but has a full figure. If you travel towards California, she might be worth your time.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b015b...8-6c7c61176993[/URL][/QUOTE]Link no longer works.
I guess we all have our stories. I've been using SA since 2009 with varying success. When I first started the women seems very different in the straight up demand for money. Most were willing to meet and even let you sample the goods prior to negotiating the Arrangement.
Alas, thinks have change, and not for the better. In the last 2 weeks I've had mostly scam artist wanting cash up front just to meet me for drinks. Of course, they want me to use a cash app to send it to them. Many have no intentions of ever coming through with the 'goods' even if they do show up for the 1st meeting.
Long story, I believe there still is some fun to be had, but the drama and the work load are overly demanding. If your desire is just to get laid, then it's a lot easier just to get in touch with a Pro, visit an AMP or develop a relationship with a stripper.
However, if you desire is to have develop an ongoing with the Hottie of your choice, then by all means plow ahead.
YMMV.
CL.
[QUOTE=GMob69;4366469]I have two dates set up for next week on the Phoenix area. (With two backups just in case).
In general, I am finding there is more girls that are DTF than I can possibly manage. Most of them are ASU types or semi-pros (dancers and what have you). You can generally tell is a profile has GPS.
If a profile has private photos, I almost always click to ask to see them. That opens up the conversation, ususally started by them. I reply in a straight forward manner with what I am looking for and a phone number to text (standard copy and paste). About one in five will text my phone and we will start chatting. After the simple pleasantries we usually get to the point of negotiations. Some girls will sent sexy photos at that point I know it's pretty much a lock.
They all ask for more than you are willing to pay. So low ball them. They will say I ususally get more. I politely decline and apologize for wasting their time. If I really like them, I will offer a little more. Most of the time, they agree and are willing to set up a meeting.
This has worked once already for me. Like I said I have two dates setup next week and will report back.
I do agree that it's best to try and aim at the college girls since they ususally will go for less. We will see.
Bottom line, SA is delivering more than I can handle at the moment.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ChicaLuv;4394324]I guess we all have our stories. I've been using SA since 2009 with varying success. When I first started the women seems very different in the straight up demand for money. Most were willing to meet and even let you sample the goods prior to negotiating the Arrangement.
Alas, thinks have change, and not for the better. In the last 2 weeks I've had mostly scam artist wanting cash up front just to meet me for drinks. Of course, they want me to use a cash app to send it to them. Many have no intentions of ever coming through with the 'goods' even if they do show up for the 1st meeting.
Long story, I believe there still is some fun to be had, but the drama and the work load are overly demanding. If your desire is just to get laid, then it's a lot easier just to get in touch with a Pro, visit an AMP or develop a relationship with a stripper.
However, if you desire is to have develop an ongoing with the Hottie of your choice, then by all means plow ahead.
YMMV.
CL.[/QUOTE]Great suggestions. The time demand to cultivate some interest is too much unless you have unlimited funding. If you've got game, the Pro and AMP are easier to develop relationships. No training is required.
[QUOTE=VividDream;4395277]Great suggestions. The time demand to cultivate some interest is too much unless you have unlimited funding. If you've got game, the Pro and AMP are easier to develop relationships. No training is required.[/QUOTE]Its the time consumption that was the reason I stopped. Just takes too much effort and I am more of an impulse, "hmm, I am horny lets see who's available" type anyways.
[QUOTE=VividDream;4393858]Link no longer works.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b015b139-440c-4498-8ff8-6c7c61176993[/URL]
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Let me explain something to you. When you are looking to make a financial arrangement with a guy you are still an escort. You're simply reducing the number of clients, you aren't changing the business model.
The VAST majority of the chicks on ALL the "Arrangement" sites will fuck anybody who can pay the fee. They are escorts, it's just that everybody kind of pretends they aren't.
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[QUOTE=PhxFunLover;4398761]Its the time consumption that was the reason I stopped. Just takes too much effort and I am more of an impulse, "hmm, I am horny lets see who's available" type anyways.[/QUOTE]I find SE not only a huge waste of time but the expectations of these girls is amazing. Most of them want thousands of dollars a month and some even say they will not have sex with you. There is also the large amount of fake profiles that have one picture and one line to pad the number of available women.
[QUOTE=DesertRat;4520819]I find SE not only a huge waste of time but the expectations of these girls is amazing. Most of them want thousands of dollars a month and some even say they will not have sex with you. There is also the large amount of fake profiles that have one picture and one line to pad the number of available women.[/QUOTE]Had one woman wanted a grand to hook up, or another one wanted way more than $100 to help pay for school and when informed her I wanted to hook up, she was no that sounds like prostitution. Waste of time.
When SA first came out it wasn't that bad, it was more expensive and time consuming than backpage. It was also nice because it wasn't full of pros. There were plenty wanting unrealistic amounts but there were also a bunch settling for high end escort prices (I never found anything for less than that and eventually quit because the occasional pro and using my vacation time for binging in other countries were its cheap and legal has been a far better return on investment.
I was contacted by a cute latina on SA who was 21 years old. Things were moving along nicely until she admitted she gave birth to three children and is caring for them. How in the hell can she go out and fuck someone with three kids to watch? Another fall down the rabbit hole on SA.
[QUOTE=PhxFunLover;4533359]When SA first came out it wasn't that bad, it was more expensive and time consuming than backpage. It was also nice because it wasn't full of pros. There were plenty wanting unrealistic amounts but there were also a bunch settling for high end escort prices (I never found anything for less than that and eventually quit because the occasional pro and using my vacation time for binging in other countries were its cheap and legal has been a far better return on investment.[/QUOTE]I completely agree with you. These girls are asking ridiculous prices and they're not even that great looking. Is it because of the few sugar daddies out there who are ruined with high prices for these ladies? Wish we all wouldn't budge and stick with one price that way they will eventually come down to earth.
[QUOTE=Peacekeeper;4564748]I completely agree with you. These girls are asking ridiculous prices and they're not even that great looking. Is it because of the few sugar daddies out there who are ruined with high prices for these ladies? Wish we all wouldn't budge and stick with one price that way they will eventually come down to earth.[/QUOTE]I think the media perpetuates a stereotype of super rich guys buying girls condos and cars. The reality is more like casual fucking for a few hundred bucks.
[QUOTE=DesertRat;4568610]I think the media perpetuates a stereotype of super rich guys buying girls condos and cars. The reality is more like casual fucking for a few hundred bucks.[/QUOTE]Its funny because in other countries (asian mostly) the type of arrangement we all seek on SA has existed for a while and its usually cheaper than market rate for escorts or the price the same. There are even forums dedicated to reviewing the women. Haven't seen anything like that grow here just the price tag the women want seems to be growing.
Just curious. For those gentlemen that goes on this site. Do you gentlemen pay $500 per meet with these ladies? It seem abit outrageous to me some of these girls are asking. Is this the norm now? Or maybe because I'm out of the loop.
[QUOTE=Peacekeeper;4667449]Just curious. For those gentlemen that goes on this site. Do you gentlemen pay $500 per meet with these ladies? It seem abit outrageous to me some of these girls are asking. Is this the norm now? Or maybe because I'm out of the loop.[/QUOTE]I too have found the initial quote to be 400-600. I always offer half of what they start with. I have had good success with 2 so far, none worth keeping around but a fun time. There are also plenty of time wasters and flakes. It has always been a lot of effort to find the gem, just keep asking.
[QUOTE=Peacekeeper;4667449]Just curious. For those gentlemen that goes on this site. Do you gentlemen pay $500 per meet with these ladies? It seem abit outrageous to me some of these girls are asking. Is this the norm now? Or maybe because I'm out of the loop.[/QUOTE]I go with WYP and have better luck for a lot less, even used social media to set up meets with many of them outside of the site.
[QUOTE=Peacekeeper;4667449]Just curious. For those gentlemen that goes on this site. Do you gentlemen pay $500 per meet with these ladies? It seem abit outrageous to me some of these girls are asking. Is this the norm now? Or maybe because I'm out of the loop.[/QUOTE]I always counter with $200 - A good percentage of them will just agree, even after asking for much higher to start.
[QUOTE=Selasorp;4668154]I go with WYP and have better luck for a lot less, even used social media to set up meets with many of them outside of the site.[/QUOTE]Sorry guys. New to this location. What is WYP? You can PM me if you prefer.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=VanAlden;4670363]Sorry guys. New to this location. What is WYP? You can PM me if you prefer.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Whats your price.
Sooooo. I love using seeking for travel destinations. I travel a lot for work to begin with thus I am 'in town anyways' however I use the same pattern for other locations that seem like they are hotbeds on seeking as I can normally fill my evenings. Or more exactly fill someone during the evenings.
Phoenix has been on my radar for a while as there seems like a decent number of SB's on the site. Yet almost no reports here?
Are there other sites in the Phoenix area I am not aware of? I know this may violate some forum decorum however it is one of simple curiosity as normally a city with a decently sized SB population has a forum discussing it. .
Feel free to PM if preferred.
[QUOTE=Paradigum;4769913]
Phoenix has been on my radar for a while as there seems like a decent number of SB's on the site. Yet almost no reports here?
[/QUOTE]I have been using SA in PHX on and off for about 5 years. Seems like it is feast or famine, though in the last couple of years the girls have gotten a lot more mercenary than they were at first as this has become mainstreamed. The hot ASU girls are looking for 400 and up, I pass on that. You can still find a decent experience at the 200 price point but it takes some work.
[QUOTE=Paradigum;4769913]
Phoenix has been on my radar for a while as there seems like a decent number of SB's on the site. Yet almost no reports here?
[/QUOTE]For this forum the Phoenix area is pretty dead for SB intel sharing. There have been a few reports of success and tips but we all seem to keep specific profiles secret. There are plenty of SBs in our area and many can find good arrangements but we also have a pretty high GPS problem in the area too, at least from my experience. The Phoenix part of the forum is pretty dead compared to others in general as well not just the SBs. The area isn't the friendliest for the hobby so a lot of us are extra cautious. I myself pretty much stopped mostly partaking in area because of the risks. I will say 200-400 will be average what you can find.
I am relatively new to the area and found success. But of course there are a lot of girls waiting for their dotcom millionaire. And now using covid as an excuse to push their onlyfans or online arrangements.
Please can you tip off regarding the risks? I can't think of many other than the obvious ones?
Well except for this one who said when I asked about substances, like casually, I only do cocaine in weekends. Lmao.
[QUOTE=PhxFunLover;4772799]For this forum the Phoenix area is pretty dead for SB intel sharing. There have been a few reports of success and tips but we all seem to keep specific profiles secret. There are plenty of SBs in our area and many can find good arrangements but we also have a pretty high GPS problem in the area too, at least from my experience. The Phoenix part of the forum is pretty dead compared to others in general as well not just the SBs. The area isn't the friendliest for the hobby so a lot of us are extra cautious. I myself pretty much stopped mostly partaking in area because of the risks. I will say 200-400 will be average what you can find.[/QUOTE]
Does anybody have any recommendation for a nice 4-star in town? My SB and I went to Hotel Valley Ho, in Scottsdale last time, but I want to try something different next time. Big plus for discrete places for risky play.
[QUOTE=Klarity;4873123]Does anybody have any recommendation for a nice 4-star in town? My SB and I went to Hotel Valley Ho, in Scottsdale last time, but I want to try something different next time. Big plus for discrete places for risky play.[/QUOTE]The Arizona Grand isn't too bad but not really near anything like what you find in the Scottsdale or Biltmore areas.
I'm originally from Maryland, but I was recently in town and figured I'd share my experiences from the last several weeks with you Arizonans. Holy shit, really wasn't expecting the SB scene to be so dead in such a major city! But then again, I guess it sorta makes sense given how COVID is really ravaging the state more than others. Anyways, without further ado:
Dakotajameslove ([URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/69597bf5-a6fb-46f7-a1d0-54ca52bc2440[/URL]) = Her profile claims that she lives in both LA and Phoenix. Not sure if that's true or not (or if she's as pictured). She reached out to me asking to meet that very same night, but I was with preoccupied with friends at the time. After that, we never could make a meet work for both of us before I left AZ.
BaeLovesBoys ([URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ad447b41-1522-4613-84a6-00bb04c9bec1[/URL]) = We messaged a few times, but unfortunately she was several hours away from Phoenix at that time and wouldn't return until the day I myself was leaving. Pretty detailed profile and got the sense she seemed genuine. Very easy to talk to.
Lajefaasexy ([URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5e44840f-4487-42f9-b95b-4ddee3edbbf0[/URL]) = She responded with one small message and hadn't logged back on before I left. Does seem to be high maintenance as her profile claims, but it wouldn't matter to me if she indeed looks as pictured. A shame it didn't work out.
Peabodybaby69 ([URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/53d558a8-76af-4de7-a333-f9003d45587d[/URL]) = Another one in which several messages were exchanged. She seemed genuine, interested in meeting, and totally DTF. But her communication on SA was unfortunately sporadic and we couldn't meet on the one day I was available. My recommendation? Reach out to her in advance, have a plan, and cross your fingers.
AthenaaMarie ([URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/fdc24d35-8c50-4d64-aecd-32c9a5cebe48[/URL]) = This one kinda irritated me a little as we actually had a M&G scheduled. She asked for 500 PPM, which is far more than what I'm usually okay with for an amateur / SB; however, the chat leading up to our supposed meet had me sold that there was enormous fun potential. We exchanged numbers, then agreed to meet at an outdoor cafe closer to her at noon. If all went well, we would've gone back to my hotel where I'd then have paid up (not into that PBM bullshit). On the day of, she asked me to push back our lunch date to around dinner time. No problem. I then texted her that I was on my way and waited for an hour. During that wait, I enjoyed some reasonably priced drinks and a fantastic dinner while enjoying the views from that restaurant's back patio. So it wasn't a complete waste of time and I now know to look that place up the next time I'm in town. Sooooooo yeah, feel free to make plans with this one. But don't bank on her communication skills or keeping her word.
The following profiles just never responded to any messages. Could be that I'm not their type, or maybe they prefer a more long-term SD, or possibly they don't even want a FWB, or maybe they're inundated with messages. Who knows? Best of luck out there, AZ!
Secretlove19 ([URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f39605a0-b653-4743-9c4b-4d443656b37f[/URL]).
Bebenatalie ([URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/222830f2-5a4b-4d78-939f-0efc832f982e[/URL]).
Briseisss0 ([URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7e7f9919-124f-45f4-b89e-50810b9ad1b3[/URL]).
Funinthesun555 ([URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/752dadbc-3af8-4fc8-b552-6d50ba0bd305[/URL]).
Babyyy3337 ([URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4e39027d-6cb5-4660-b7ff-d4c3751f9425[/URL]).
[QUOTE=Shinshi86;4889086]I'm originally from Maryland, but I was recently in town and figured I'd share my experiences from the last several weeks with you Arizonans. [/QUOTE]I live here and am on SA all the time. It is very hit ot moss and lots of flakes. My limit is about 200 which a lot of girls won't repsond to. It taks some work but I still pull a lot off of SA. Of the ones you mentioned:
Peabodybaby69 - supposed to see her tomorrow.
AthenaaMarie. Messaged, no response.
Bebenatalie. Never responded to me either.
Funinthesun555 - really hot, haven't messaged her because she probably has GPS. Going to have to give it a shot anyway.
Babyyy3337 - just messaged her yesterday, no response so far.
Can you send me Peabody's number I don't have any credits.
[QUOTE=Dsprdo;4889981]I live here and am on SA all the time. It is very hit ot moss and lots of flakes. My limit is about 200 which a lot of girls won't repsond to. It taks some work but I still pull a lot off of SA. Of the ones you mentioned:
Peabodybaby69 - supposed to see her tomorrow.
AthenaaMarie. Messaged, no response.
Bebenatalie. Never responded to me either.
Funinthesun555 - really hot, haven't messaged her because she probably has GPS. Going to have to give it a shot anyway.
Babyyy3337 - just messaged her yesterday, no response so far.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dsprdo;4889981]I live here and am on SA all the time. It is very hit ot moss and lots of flakes. My limit is about 200 which a lot of girls won't repsond to. It taks some work but I still pull a lot off of SA.[/QUOTE]Ain't that the truth. Opening with a 200-300 per meet offer has maybe a 50/50 success rate, but up it to 400-500 and most of them will bite. I have one long-term SB now, who could be a body double for Krystal Boyd / Angelica Ebbi. And while I'm aware of GPS, she's worth every dime.
[QUOTE=Klarity;5174316]Ain't that the truth. Opening with a 200-300 per meet offer has maybe a 50/50 success rate, but up it to 400-500 and most of them will bite. I have one long-term SB now, who could be a body double for Krystal Boyd / Angelica Ebbi. And while I'm aware of GPS, she's worth every dime.[/QUOTE]It's far easier to find <$300 on Secret Benefits. While there are far more 9's and 10's on SA, you can find 6-8's on SB for $150-300, especially if you like more GND / curvy girls. They also assume everything is PPM rather than asking for monthly allowances.
I haven't even flown in yet and have two SBs lined up at $200 and they'll drive to me.
The downside is SB uses a weird token charge approach. You have to buy 200/500/1000 tokens and then you pay 10 tokens for first messages ($3. 50-5/ per new first message). You can also use them to see hidden pics, read receipts and other dumb shit but don't. You will get a lot of messages but don't pay to read them unless you would have reached out to the girl first anyways. Many girls fucking spam 'heyyyyy' or 'I'm a great girl and want to get to know you' messages to every guy to play the odds. They don't even read your profile.
*only pay tokens to chat with your top pics*.
[QUOTE=WiseTraveler;5184548]It's far easier to find <$300 on Secret Benefits. While there are far more 9's and 10's on SA, you can find 6-8's on SB for $150-300, especially if you like more GND / curvy girls. They also assume everything is PPM rather than asking for monthly allowances.
I haven't even flown in yet and have two SBs lined up at $200 and they'll drive to me.
The downside is SB uses a weird token charge approach. You have to buy 200/500/1000 tokens and then you pay 10 tokens for first messages ($3. 50-5/ per new first message). You can also use them to see hidden pics, read receipts and other dumb shit but don't. You will get a lot of messages but don't pay to read them unless you would have reached out to the girl first anyways. Many girls fucking spam 'heyyyyy' or 'I'm a great girl and want to get to know you' messages to every guy to play the odds. They don't even read your profile.
*only pay tokens to chat with your top pics*.[/QUOTE]Very accurate with SB. I've had success on there in the past but it was getting too costly to pay for GPS. I did have a few good utr's prior to COVID. Stay safe why'all.
I used SA when I first moved to Florida 5 years ago and I was a fucking rock star. I had to beat the girls off with a stick, I couldn't keep up. I had 4-5 girls trying to hook up with me every night and these chicks would come hang out and we'd spend the entire night fucking and they'd make me breakfast in the morning, some chicks would stay over for days and never even ask for a dime. I'd buy these chicks cigarettes weed and dinner and they were totally cool with it. It was an amazing time, till I got stupid and got a girlfriend from there that lasted 3. 5 years. Big mistake. Never ever cohabitate with a female.
Now I tried SA last week here, and it was horrible. The chicks are fucking fat now and gross, or straight up by the hour chicks, and I don't go to SA for by the hour chicks. Talked to one chick we were going to meet up for coffee (it's a quick and easy way to bug out in 10 min if the chicks a pig or whatever, and then she asks me to cashapp her money to "get dinner for her kids". First off, I told her, that was so unclassy to ask a dude you never met before for money to feed your kids. I don't want to hear about your little mistakes, nor am I going to feed them or your boyfriend (girls will order extra food to wrap up and take home, I deny them that when they try that shit). And I'm not sending you any money. She persisted again oh my kids have nothing to eat. Well then you have failed as a parent. I lost ALL interest in her by then. And of course I just kept getting hit up by actual by the hour who oars, even though my profile said that ain't my thing. These bitches can't read and are dumb as rocks. I am meeting one tonight. She's been wanting to meet up with me real bad but cause of my hernia I can't bang really so she's making brownies going to smoke a blunt and she's giving me a massage.
Oh and I must have pissed off one of the hookers because one day I tried to log into my SA account and it said I was permanently banned for soliciting prostitution. What the fuck. No way to even dispute it, see the proof, etc, nothing. And I just created the account like 3 days before for $60. No refund.
I signed up for SB last night and geez that site is worse, gross chicks and this whole credits system is fucking stupid a waste of $60 I didn't know how dumb it was, have to pay to read or send a message, to view hidden pics, fucking nickel and dime you.
[QUOTE=DrPotato;5199724]Oh and I must have pissed off one of the hookers because one day I tried to log into my SA account and it said I was permanently banned for soliciting prostitution. What the fuck. No way to even dispute it, see the proof, etc, nothing. And I just created the account like 3 days before for $60. No refund.[/QUOTE]What a bunch of bullshit. The whole site is for paying younger women to fuck you. Now it is full of spam and old ladies. Once they shortened their site name to just seeking now it is filled with ladies thinking it is Eharmony. Times are tough.
Just contact customer support and tell them it was a simple misunderstanding-my buddy just had the same thing happen to him.
[QUOTE=DesertRat;5206331]What a bunch of bullshit. The whole site is for paying younger women to fuck you. Now it is full of spam and old ladies. Once they shortened their site name to just seeking now it is filled with ladies thinking it is Eharmony. Times are tough.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JChoi;5186470]Very accurate with SB. I've had success on there in the past but it was getting too costly to pay for GPS. I did have a few good utr's prior to COVID. Stay safe why'all.[/QUOTE]I tried to sign up for SB but it seems they don't allow gmail addresses. Anyone know of a work around?
[QUOTE=Fendter;5231576]I tried to sign up for SB but it seems they don't allow gmail addresses. Anyone know of a work around?[/QUOTE]Try another email. [URL]ProtonMail.com[/URL] is as good as it gets.
[QUOTE=JChoi;5232038]Try another email. [URL]ProtonMail.com[/URL] is as good as it gets.[/QUOTE]Big second for protonmail. I use it for sugar and cuddle sites and actually feel far more comfortable with providers who use it. It's actually been a good icebreaker in a 'you use protonmail too?' way since it shows they at least have some idea of opsec.
Using gmail or google #s is not a good idea unless you have 100% completely separate physical devices such as a burner phone. If you log into your second gmail account even once on a PC or phone, Google will tie it to your other account, if not officially, then often as an option (like autofill). This is even worse if you share a PC or device (iPad, etc.) since your spouse could be shopping and see '[EMAIL]LovesAsianTits@gmail.com[/EMAIL]' as a username or email option. I heard of one guy who's second gmail address showed as an option on their new SMART TV, probably because they selected (or didn't deselect) sync across devices. Unless you really know what you are doing, keep #s and emails 100% separate.
[QUOTE=DesertRat;5206331]What a bunch of bullshit. The whole site is for paying younger women to fuck you. Now it is full of spam and old ladies. Once they shortened their site name to just seeking now it is filled with ladies thinking it is Eharmony. Times are tough.[/QUOTE]Consider approaching the sites differently. With SecretBenefits you can be more direct and start discussing $ / PPM on the site chat without getting banned, though I expect that to change once the pearl clutching puritans / politicians up for reelection need an easy target. Seeking is run by a total ahole and wildly inconsistent admins. Don't expect consistency or fairness. They will ban dudes for almost nothing using keyword searches, for example, if you even say, "I won't treat you like a hooker. I'll treat you with respect and always follow our arrangement. " you could get banned just because of the word 'hooker'. Yeah, you can try to appeal but you also could get banned if a SB says you offered her $ for sex.
Keep it simple. Never talk arrangements or specifics on the seeking site. Gauge potential compatibility only and then shift to text, KiK, whatever. If they won't do that, move on unless you really do want to set up an actual monthly allowance arrangement. You can use a generic "Due to COVID my schedule varies so I really need flexibility. I'm willing to work with you. If you are interested, let's chat more at <burner #.
If you come in with an 'I'm just paying $ for pussy' attitude, however accurate, you'll pay more for less and likely get banned sooner.
[QUOTE=WiseTraveler;5232154]Consider approaching the sites differently. With SecretBenefits you can be more direct and start discussing $ / PPM on the site chat without getting banned, though I expect that to change once the pearl clutching puritans / politicians up for reelection need an easy target. Seeking is run by a total ahole and wildly inconsistent admins. Don't expect consistency or fairness. They will ban dudes for almost nothing using keyword searches, for example, if you even say, "I won't treat you like a hooker. I'll treat you with respect and always follow our arrangement. " you could get banned just because of the word 'hooker'. Yeah, you can try to appeal but you also could get banned if a SB says you offered her $ for sex.
Keep it simple. Never talk arrangements or specifics on the seeking site. Gauge potential compatibility only and then shift to text, KiK, whatever. If they won't do that, move on unless you really do want to set up an actual monthly allowance arrangement. You can use a generic "Due to COVID my schedule varies so I really need flexibility. I'm willing to work with you. If you are interested, let's chat more at <burner #.
If you come in with an 'I'm just paying $ for pussy' attitude, however accurate, you'll pay more for less and likely get banned sooner.[/QUOTE]Just created the account in SB. Not sure about the worth. Can someone suggest if this is ok to pay for credits. Are those girls real deal? Everyone / every photos seem to be legit though. What's the average $ expected to be spent to hangout with one in SB? Any advice?