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[QUOTE=JimThome;3792871]If you go to cxxxvibe website now you'll see something in the works which I am assuming is in response to the nanny state christian conservative influenced SESTA law. You guys really need to stop voting Republican if you are BTW. In the meantime the next best thing to TER is eroticmonkey. I think things will be back to normal within a couple of months. Too many smart people in the world and if there's money to be made it'll get done. Just have to operate outside of nanny state USA.[/QUOTE]Jim is a Antifa feminist troll. Don't you have a anti straight male March to attend?

[QUOTE=JamesLane90;3793743]Feminists! Blame feminists![/QUOTE]Assholes! Blame assholes!

[QUOTE=GimmeMoreHead;3793897]Jim is a Antifa feminist troll. Don't you have a anti straight male March to attend?[/QUOTE]I don't support the left. All I'm saying is that if you vote republican for whatever reason it may be, you are also holding hands with the Conservative Christian bloc of the republican party which holds too much power in my opinion. They probably feel they are using you for your vote to place conservative judges in court and then will shame you if they knew you were on this site and try to shut it down.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3826598]I want SBs, not escorts, b / c what gets me off is getting them off, and I'd never believe that w / an escort.[/QUOTE]Sugar Babies are hookers, they are escorts, they are every bit as much an escort as any pipe hitting street walker. They wouldn't fuck you unless you pay them, they are hookers. You guys who insist that they are not had better never, and I mean EVER complain about this new crop of "SB's" that want platonic relationships.

When you're paying for sex, you are a john and they are a hooker, end of story.

[QUOTE=Admin2;3826926]Sugar Babies are hookers, they are escorts, they are every bit as much an escort as any pipe hitting street walker. They wouldn't fuck you unless you pay them, they are hookers. You guys who insist that they are not had better never, and I mean EVER complain about this new crop of "SB's" that want platonic relationships.

When you're paying for sex, you are a john and they are a hooker, end of story.[/QUOTE]Can't agree more.

Don't try to flatter and bullshit yourself, if they're fucking you for money they are hookers.

[QUOTE=Admin2;3826926]Sugar Babies are hookers, they are escorts, they are every bit as much an escort as any pipe hitting street walker. They wouldn't fuck you unless you pay them, they are hookers. You guys who insist that they are not had better never, and I mean EVER complain about this new crop of "SB's" that want platonic relationships.

When you're paying for sex, you are a john and they are a hooker, end of story.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more.

I only add the remainder of this post for some of our readers enlightenment.

There are quite a number of guys/girls in that world that truly believe that what they are doing is not escorting. Especially if they only date one person at a time. Living in a state of suspended disbelief is the key. Kind of like a role play that never ends (until you stop paying). By infusing a semblance of truth into a fantastic tale of fairy tale romance, it takes one away from the harsh realities of life. The girls like to think they are cinderella and the guys are their knight in shining armor. The guys like to think they are studs and that their game is so strong they can have any girl they desire (and they can for the right price).

But I won't lie, I love the thrill of finding that NP first timer and the ability to live in that state of suspended disbelief if only for an hour (for me it beats drugs and alcohol every time). But your rant is duly noted.

This is funny.

Kudos to us.

Same team.

Friends.

Lovers. With millions of let be friends.

The few times I've met these non pros, I like to break the ice by asking, "So, how long have you been a prostitute?

[QUOTE=Tjinla2001;3828089]The few times I've met these non pros, I like to break the ice by asking, "So, how long have you been a prostitute?[/QUOTE]Some differences between regular dating and the dating going on the sugar daddy board:

1. I don't know of anyone who dates only black women who will fuck for $100.00.

2. I never heard of a date consisting of a girl getting into an uber paid for by the dude to go to the dude's house and spend time in the "FC".

3. Most dates do not have their picture taken with their face blocked out.

Look. Sugardaddy sites started because the economy was pretty weak and lots of "non pros" thought they might break into the profession. In about two hours, the sites were overrun by smart provides that realized that there are some guys who do not want to pay for sex, they want to pay too much for sex. And those girls made bank. Then, all the detritus gals. And you can easily tell who they are. Ended up on these sites. The girls who uber over to guy's houses are prostitutes. Get over yourself and it.

[QUOTE=JimThome;3793823]But just saying in the bigger picture if you vote republican you are voting on the same side as christian conservatives. Basically giving power to people who's first priority is the bible and getting rid of "dirty" sex. Gays are the first target of course. The people on these type of websites would be their next target I'd say.[/QUOTE]This just isn't true. California and especially Los Angeles are run by Democrats and have been for years and the prostitution laws and attacks are worse than they were when the streets were overrun with crackheads in the 90's.

Just because we now have legal marijuana isn't thanks to the Democrats, it's because the people demanded it as an issue unto itself. The problem is that we still have the same number of cops, courts and prisons that need to meet their quotas and now they are attacking prostitution just to fill in the gaps. The prisons are full so cops go after stuff like prostitution and other stuff where you're not going to prison but they can still nail you with a court case.

It's not about Democrats or Republicans. It's about the system and all the pussies who put up with it. California just legalized all "undocumented" activity on the street level for illegals, allowing them to sell food, sell flowers, do sidewalk sales and other stuff without a license. Without any health inspection. Without paying taxes. And they can do it right in front of legal businesses and destroy those businesses, but they do task forces on Lankershim twice a year where 75 cops round up johns and waste taxpayer money collecting overtime, but LAPD doesn't come when you call for a real problem.

Funny how someone who hunts and dumps thousands of dollars on prostitutes a year complains about mexican flower ladies selling flowers for 5 bucks on street corners not paying taxes lmao. As much as I love all my fellow mongers, I find that somewhat contradictory. I think I spent over ten K last year on hoes, doubt the government saw any of that LMFAO! It's great to be part of the problem. I look at myself before I complain about others.

Is there a reason for this page? I come to this site to get away from the usual political garbage. Let me say this to the person complaining about immigrants and Democrats. If it were up to conservatives, you wouldn't be reading this or commenting because this site would not exist. Do you realize it is no longer based in this country because of politics? I could write a long screed about your other points, but then I would be violating with my own beginning. Stick to sex.

[QUOTE=OhHellYeah;3992549] And honestly no one should have to pay $250 that's just the markup that people pay because what they are offering is illegal. [/QUOTE]Has anyone ever used "funny money" on a SW?

[QUOTE=HookerHunter;3992727]Has anyone ever used "funny money" on a SW?[/QUOTE]It's a Federal crime.

[QUOTE=Deeez;3992846]It's a Federal crime.[/QUOTE]Its a Federal Crime with your finger prints all over it.

Not a wise decision.

[QUOTE=HookerHunter;3992727]Has anyone ever used "funny money" on a SW?[/QUOTE]What precisely is on your mind fella?

[QUOTE=TheCamel;3993015]What precisely is on your mind fella?[/QUOTE]LOL no it's not like that, I was just thinking to a time I got really shitty service, it was many, many years ago in my wild youth and the thought had popped into my head.

Not that I would actually do such a thing but it did make me wonder.

[QUOTE=HookerHunter;3993200]LOL no it's not like that, I was just thinking to a time I got really shitty service, it was many, many years ago in my wild youth and the thought had popped into my head.

Not that I would actually do such a thing but it did make me wonder.[/QUOTE]Shitty service or not think about this; one gal I see on a regular basis got beat up real bad because she bought some clothes from a guy in the hood with "funny money". Counterfeit money filtres down to some one who gets burned.

Yeah she is a hooker who took cash for services rendered by a monger but there are consequences that are not laughing matters, out loud or otherwise.

[QUOTE=HookerHunter;3992727]Has anyone ever used "funny money" on a SW?[/QUOTE]Just don't get caught! If you played it smart and mixed in with couple of real ones.

You can save a lot.

I might not be entitled, being an out of town guest but it is an interesting topic. I wouldn't. If you do, don't plan on going back to that spot. Many girls have "sponsors"(take your pick- boyfriend, dope dealer, pimp, etc). Your car shows again soon on that block and someone not so friendly might show up at your window. And someone else already mentioned the danger to the girl.

[QUOTE=Hornilius69;3996358]Just don't get caught! If you played it smart and mixed in with couple of real ones.

You can save a lot.[/QUOTE]Where do you get this counterfeit money? Or do you make your own? I wouldn't think such a thing would be readily available.

[QUOTE=Marlowe;4003457]Where do you get this counterfeit money? Or do you make your own? I wouldn't think such a thing would be readily available.[/QUOTE]Back in the 90's and 2000's you could get funny money in MacArthur Park.

Some countries were better then others.

The Peruvian counterfeiters were the best.

Not sure if they are still down there.

[QUOTE=BobSmith42;4092199]Hey guys,

Sorry for the very general question here but I am a noob to kgirl world and having looked at the various agency websites throughout post history, I am dying to get into the game. Sounds like you need references to get in the door? Though on the websites, there are numbers. Will these girls not see you with a reference? For example, if I want to see April: [URL]http://ktownescort.com/new_models?product_id=319[/URL], can I do so without a reference or no? Just confused on the process and don't want to get blacklisted.

If anyone can PM me and help me out, I would be forever grateful. I am heading to the OC on Sunday to try the famous Krystal and will report back.

Thanks team![/QUOTE]I was thinking of joining the hobby and reached out to them. The booker asked for references but was willing to take a driver's license + selfie to pass the initial screening.

How do you know if escort is a cop or not?

[QUOTE=FightOn26;4095429]I was thinking of joining the hobby and reached out to them. The booker asked for references but was willing to take a driver's license + selfie to pass the initial screening.[/QUOTE]You're absolutely crazy if you send over your CDL.

Not really crazy, they let you block out your home address and part of your license number. All they want is your real name and your real pic. If you are new and desperate to get in then K scene. Go for it!! Just black out your address and half of your license number.

[QUOTE=HapaBoy86;4096416]You're absolutely crazy if you send over your CDL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FightOn26;4095429]I was thinking of joining the hobby and reached out to them. The booker asked for references but was willing to take a driver's license + selfie to pass the initial screening.[/QUOTE]Did booker specifically ask for a copy of your DL? If so, booker said it'd ok to block your last name and address?

[QUOTE=HapaBoy86;4096416]You're absolutely crazy if you send over your CDL.[/QUOTE]If you have a fake one, you don't have to worry.

[QUOTE=HapaBoy86;4096416]You're absolutely crazy if you send over your CDL.[/QUOTE]I used an expired DL with an old address and was able to get in with a few agencies. Still working on J and M though.

I feel that dude's that are scared to show I'd are either insecure of their looks or got some nefarious intentions. I've shown countless K-agencies my I'd and not once have I ever had any issues.

[QUOTE=MyronMGaines;4096990]I used an expired DL with an old address and was able to get in with a few agencies. Still working on J and M though.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnPot;4096655]Not really crazy, they let you block out your home address and part of your license number. All they want is your real name and your real pic. If you are new and desperate to get in then K scene. Go for it!! Just black out your address and half of your license number.[/QUOTE]So, one of the guys in the Seattle bust 2 years ago sent in his license to one of the khouses that got busted.

After le busted the owner and got access to all emails and texts.

A guy used his wash state dl. They (le) pulled the pic and scanned there dmv system and bingo a hit. Yes, the dl # and addy.

We're covered but le was able to scan his pic and he got arrested.

[QUOTE=DHorn420;4097476]I feel that dude's that are scared to show I'd are either insecure of their looks or got some nefarious intentions. I've shown countless K-agencies my I'd and not once have I ever had any issues.[/QUOTE]They aren't stupid enough to give potential black mail information to the people who run a criminal organization.

Not all of the guys here have as little to lose as you, some of them have families and homes, not a refrigerator box in Long Beach.

[QUOTE=HapaBoy86;4097893]So, one of the guys in the Seattle bust 2 years ago sent in his license to one of the khouses that got busted.

After le busted the owner and got access to all emails and texts.

A guy used his wash state dl. They (le) pulled the pic and scanned there dmv system and bingo a hit. Yes, the dl # and addy.

We're covered but le was able to scan his pic and he got arrested.[/QUOTE]How is that possible? They have no clue how they got the driver license picture. That is some major jumps in assumptions to just bust a john, that can easily get out of the charges.

It's more about discretion and protecting one's self. Why trust an org that handles hundreds if not thousands of clients with such sensitive personal information?? God forbid they get busted and then you are exposed.

I don't know if any people here remember, but in the mid-to-late 2000's there was a very popular Chinese booker in Pasadena with multiple houses named CrystalChan. She got nailed and the Pasadena PD obviously got ahold of her phone and were calling clients and asking them to come in for questioning. Now obviously only a moron would actually go in but just the fact that they had gotten ahold of numbers and were calling clients was scary enough.

[QUOTE=DHorn420;4097476]I feel that dude's that are scared to show I'd are either insecure of their looks or got some nefarious intentions. I've shown countless K-agencies my I'd and not once have I ever had any issues.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HapaBoy86;4097893]So, one of the guys in the Seattle bust 2 years ago sent in his license to one of the khouses that got busted.

After le busted the owner and got access to all emails and texts.

A guy used his wash state dl. They (le) pulled the pic and scanned there dmv system and bingo a hit. Yes, the dl # and addy.

We're covered but le was able to scan his pic and he got arrested.[/QUOTE]Arrested for what? Unless they have audio and video of you actually paying for sex, they got nothing.

[QUOTE=HapaBoy86;4097893]So, one of the guys in the Seattle bust 2 years ago sent in his license to one of the khouses that got busted.

After le busted the owner and got access to all emails and texts.

A guy used his wash state dl. They (le) pulled the pic and scanned there dmv system and bingo a hit. Yes, the dl # and addy.

We're covered but le was able to scan his pic and he got arrested.[/QUOTE]Not surprised at all. Dl contains so much info LE and other agencies can pull which we wouldn't know.

[QUOTE=MyronMGaines;4096990]I used an expired DL with an old address and was able to get in with a few agencies. Still working on J and M though.[/QUOTE]If you are good using photoshop, replace pic with some guys' look like you and fix the address and name part with stamp feature and send it to booker. They wouldn't know. I did that few times myself. LOL.

There is a lot of recent back and forth about the things that happened in Bellevue. I'll not go into details here, but I will just say the incident was a large and complicated operation that set some unsettling legal precedents that people should be aware of. There are several very extensive and detailed articles about it that can easily be found through a quick google search. I'd suggest you seek out those articles and read up.

That's exactly what I was thinking. Sounds like nothing but just trying to spread fear or the story is being passed around by word of mouth and was made with alot inconsistencies. LE have nothing on you unless they have video or audio of anything illegal being done. Good luck trying to prove the case in front of judge with just texts LOL.

[QUOTE=OCpyro;4098355]Arrested for what? Unless they have audio and video of you actually paying for sex, they got nothing.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WubbaDubz80;4098141]How is that possible? They have no clue how they got the driver license picture. That is some major jumps in assumptions to just bust a john, that can easily get out of the charges.[/QUOTE]YOu have no idea what a booker keeps on a client! You just think that you can text the booker and get the okay. Booker needs to verify through refs, work info or cdl or other means?

He / she will write down on how your we're verified or such. Le gets a hold of the texts, email and notes during a raid is how le gets alot of info flips the booker or owner.

If you think you deleting a text won't be found? Wrong, all texts are stored in cell carrier database. If le wants to subpoena it they can and it will show you're entire history of who, what, a why you text a #.

Technology is scary now these days!