2000-2004 Archived Reports

Here is the real story about the bust. The cops are clueless about this site. As far as I can tell WE were all clueless about the places that were busted. THey were never on this board or I would have been trying them out. Here is the story.

BUST!
In the Monday Palo Alto Daily News they reported a bust of three massage parlors that were all in Palo Alto. WHY DID I NEVER SEE THEM? That sucks. I would have like to try them out. They were all Chinese women compared to mostly always Vietnamese. 20 different women.

They were:
Japanese Accupuncture Center at 3517 Alma St. The Hong Kong Health Center and Oriental Health Center, both at 2290 Birch St.

It was busted because a City utility worker making a routine utility check thought it odd there were no accupuncture needles in the place and made a report. That was February. Since then they investigated and sent in an undercover cop to get a solicitation. They turned the phones off so the owners would come in and they busted them. A husband ad wife team and one other person who lived in East Palo Alto.

One chick was busted "in the middle of a sex act" and they let the guy off scott free for cooperating in details of the establishment and how it all works. They quoted the normal routine you would read about here: $40 for 1/2hr $60 for hr and tips starting at $50. They chicks get $10 for a $40 massage and $20 for the hour. That is interesting because I figured the house kept it all and if we didnt tip they dont get a thing.

They said while they were in the middle of the bust, 20 men came in and the cops just took their name and let them leave.

i am bummed we didnt know about them soon enough to get a try.

Hey at least the cops were or play dumb about what really is going on. Apparantly they are not reading this site, and they let the John go!

blanknamecruiser

BlnkName - I think the PD reads this sites, and others like them. Church groups and irate citizens inform them, based on sites like these. That there are any places still extant, is based on either the good graces of the PD or b/c they remain hidden.

Unfortunately (I am a member, and I enjoy the site) I consider SFRedbook to be more or less a blueprint for the South Bay LE.

The places that want to continue to function, try their best to stay off the redbook and lovings.com and etc. We did not know about the true nature of the Palo Alto places b/c we are lao wai. The Chinese nationals keep them to themselves.

Why? B/C lao wai cannot keep a good thing under wraps.

This reminds me that I need to pick up a Chinese newspaper and find the ads that are intended for Chinese. I was given hints how to locate them by my GF. I let you know.

Much of South Bay and East Bay are very anti-prostitution.
San Francisco is only anti-street-prostitution and rarely bust AMPs. In fact, I can't remember reading about any AMP busts for years, except one that was also selling drugs maybe three years ago.

So... I don't think we need to worry about sharing info on SF. Please be generous. I have posted much in the past myself, under various names. I have reviewed my favorite places and will let you know if I try new ones.

Live and let live. Fuck and let fuck.

Yeah I am going to be visiting the San Francisco area in a couple of weeks memorial day weekend. I wanted to know if anybody could tell me where a good place to go for a cheap costing or average costing blowjob. Also if you could tell me where a place to go for a quick fuck.

thanks

To Nimmer1 and others asking, "I'm going to SF. Where are good places to get sex": Just click on "Old Forum" and read all the archived reports! Otherwise we'll think you're LE or lazy.

totally in agreement with jeffjimman - do the work and read the archives

blankname: have you seen anymore or heard from of Marie lately? I've paged her a couple of times last month but no answer - maybe because my number is (650)?

theReyMan
You must be talking about the hot Samoan chick? I tried too and she never calls me either. I am sure she left town or the pimp got her a new #. I have driven around there and not seen her again either. Too bad. I really liked her.
Did you ever hook up with her even once?

not yet dude...I think I tried paging her a day after you posted her#. I haven't been with a Samoan chick in sometime. Did you try paging her once from a 415 payphone to see if she'll answer?

Just to return the favor, I do have another ATF SW Sara that's always in the TL...22?, White, 5'6", natural blonde, 38DD-27-36, 125lbs. (I think she's a bit better built than MyBlondeMichelle)? She always answers her cell Tues-Sat. She's very sweet and always has her own room in a decent hotel. If you think you may be interested I'll see if she'll let me post her# here. (She's asked me the last couple of times if I wanted to bring someone for a 3some.)

oh, and if any of you guys hook up w/Bambi (18, white, blonde, 34b-24-34, 105lbs) in the TL be warned that she'll try and con you - she'll get you to the hotel and all worked up and stop after BJ and won't give it up till you fork over more $. Soon as I sensed this, just zipped up and cut my losses. She did see I was upset and gave me a longer BJ...as my revenge I did my best and held back for just under 1/2hr! Boy were her jaws tired! She did slip me her cell because she became curious as to how long I could actually last and promised I could get whatever I wanted the next time, but I don't think so.

theReyMan,
I havent tried calling her from a 415area code. I just gave up. She was hot but oh well...
Thanks for the offer on the blonde. I am not into blond chicks all that much. If they are striking then I would like to give it a try otherwise I am happy skipping that one.

Although 22y/o is really tempting. That is worth a try. Maybe I will give her a shot.

Has anyone been to MSC lately? Whats the quality of girls like? I havent been there in about 4 or 5 months and was wondering if things have changed alot since then. Let me know.

dr. katz,
speaking of panhandling, a guy I work with told me "you know you've been to SF when you've been panhandled by a guy in a suit". And sure as shit, on a visit there a few years back it happened to me.

I also haven't been to Market Street Cinema in a few months and was wondering if it was worth a return trip. The website appears to have many of the same girls listed.

On the old forum a couple months back, people were talking about the "decling state of Mitchell Brothers" but they didn't specify why. I wonder if that place is worth going back to after 5 months? And if not there, what other strip clubs to get fine pussy, not MSC trash, with extras provided?

Has anyone tried the escorts listed on Spectator.net? There are some absolutely fine chicks on the site, but I don't know if that's the bait-and-switch routine. You can probably fly to Amsterdam for the weekend for the same money, but I am hoping someone will inform me otherwise!

Dylock,
I really think that escorts always deliver less than promised and less than you want for the $$.

You may get a good one but I dont think they are ever worth the $$.

Go to TJ, Amsterdam, Thailand or an AMP. This way you get more choice, less $ and more satisfaction.

Hi BlankNameCruiser....it's been awhile! I am going to TJ early June and still thinking about your posts from your trip there. Will be staying at Hotel Villagrosa (or something like that) and still hoping to get a chick to do overnights with me on both nights. Have you been back there? You have any phone numbers? thanks.

Mike Hock, Don't mean to be rude by butting in on your post to BlankNameCruiser but I see you mentioned La Villa Zaragoza. It is a nice Hotel behind the Jai aLai. They have room service or you can chow at a cheap but good 24/7 cafe on the corner called Ricardo's (I think that's the name). There is also an AM/PM close by for an emergency purchase of condoms plus a couple of MP nearby and a gentleman's clu around the corner. The club looks like a house but I have never been in it nor have I seen any posts for it. Sorry but don't know the name.
You gotta be careful with the hotel clerks and check if they charge you for one of the more expensive rooms but put you in a cheaper room. Weekend rates there are higher than during the week so when you call them on why you are being charged more than you are supposed to they usually say they have made a mistake. Most of the clerks are okay but taht skinny guy at night tried to overcharge me twice so I don't think it is a simple mistake with him. I think he gets in at 11 PM so if you check in before that you should have no problems. The owner of this Hotel has a brother who owns the Nelson which is an older place but is within walking distance of the AB/CC and the rest of the places you want to go to. I don't know TJ that well but have stayed at both. I stayed at the Nelson last time, room 523 is one of the larger rooms with a decent size bathroom... they let me look at a few... the others have real small bath rooms.. I've stayed a few times at La Villa Zaragoza. The rooms are more like US hotels. You can park your car there. The suites im the back cost $87, have a large bathroom, two beds, a front area with kitgchenette and sofa. The cheaper rooms start at around $39 but like I said, the skinny night clerk tried to charge me $59 (540 Pesos) on 2 separate occasions in the middle of the week! Avoid Room 108. It smells like someone spilled bong water on the rug!TJ is cool and I plan to go back but like anywhere else, keep alert at all times!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mike Hock

Went to Lee's on Sunday at 9th & Mission with a friend, the inside is
definitely much nicer than the outside. Rang the doorbell, a cute girl
in a biege dress answered, was asked if this was our first time. Came
in and sat on the couch, saw at least 15 asian girls sitting across
from us, each girl tried very hard not to make eye contact with the
customers, it must have been a slow night cause they looked kind of
angry. There were a few cute ones, a lot of ugly ones too, it
definitely had a brothel feel to the place. We eventually signed up
with the mama-san, using a fake name and address of course, paid $50
each person, and got paired up with a lady. We both didn't have change
for our twenties, so the mama-san said not to worry, that our girl will
get it for us. Turns out, first-timers don't get to choose their
girl. But we both got lucky, our girls were decent looking. And they
definitely give real massages here, plus bone and joint cracking too.

Walking up the flight of stairs, I checked out my girl's ass as she
went ahead of me, they looked so round, plus she was cute, I was happy
that the mama-san paired me up with her. On the way up, she turned
around and smiled at me. She was wearing a purplish blouse and black
pants. Her name was Kelly, she said that she was 27, thai, with blonde
colored streaks dyed into her hair, and fair skin. She spoke fairly
decent english, meaning we could have conversations with each other.

I went into the room, got into a really hot shower, dried myself off
and stepped out. My girl had returned, with my change, she then
stripped my towel off and told me to lie down on my stomach, wow, I
felt her naked on my back as she began to rub me, then she was walking
on my back, running her feet over my shoulders, and eventually came a
foot massage. She then cracked every finger and toe, I heard popping
sounds. Next, she told me to turn over, after being given a full-body
massage, she asked if I was a cop, then she asked if I knew that
massage wasn't all they did.

I asked her if she did anal, she didn't understand, so I said up the
butt, then she replied no. We settled on full service, she began with
foreplay, her sensual fingernails on my skin, licking and sucking my
nipples, then she slipped the condom on me with her mouth, gave me head
to get me hard. Next, she climbed on top of me and rode me for ten
minutes, afterwards, she asked if I wanted to be on top, I said yes.
So I got on top, she instantly reached down and helped guide me into
her with her hands, she's definitely done this many times before. I
really enjoyed the way she moaned, it was just right, not overdone. I
liked the way she squirmed when I thrusted into her. But my time was
almost up and I didn't cum yet, so I let her finish me off orally.
After 5 minutes of sucking, I felt the tension build up inside and I
came aloud, she slowed her sucking to help ease me back down. Then she
cleaned me up, and gave me a cup of tea to drink, I got in the shower,
was surprised to see her return, turns out, the girls are suppose to
clean up the room whenever they're finished. I got dressed, she came
over to help me button my shirt which I thought was very nice. I
handed her a "generous tip," something that was earlier agreed upon
before we got into action. I know I would definitely like to fuck her
again. She was about 5'4, had a nice hour glass figure, her boobs
weren't that big, but her nipples were really hard.

Before leaving, I did give her an extra dollar bill for good luck since
it was a slow night. I wanted to give her a hug but I really don't
know how they feel about stuff like that in thailand. We parted ways,
I was ready to leave, didn't care to check out anyone else in the
lobby, my work was done.



On another Note: We did go to Rainbow on Grant near the Chinatown
entrance, pulled into the alley, parked by a bunch of dumpsters.
Again, much nicer on the inside than the outside. Got buzzed in by
a camera watchman. It looked like an apartment with two big couches
in the living room, saw only two chinese ladies in their 30's, they
were decent looking and seemed okay on the attitude. But the mama-san
was very aggressive about getting us to pick one the girls or to wait
an extra 30 minutes for the others to be done. Definitely a place for
guys to show up just because they want to fuck someone. We eventually
split the scene, and that's how we ended up at Lee's.

Btw, Lee's consists of mainly Thai, Vietnamese, Lao, and Korean women,
while Rainbow is Chinese.


5-21-02

I talked to an escort woman on the phone and asked her about her services.
I want to try G.S (never did it before)
she said that toilet training is an option.
What the H. is toilet training?
Thanks

markofoakland - sounds like a dominance\submission trip to me.

Mick Hock,
THanks.... I have been lazy and off the board for a while. Also my last trip to TJ I had so much sex I took about a 2 week break.

I have been since the last posts you have read but was too lazy to post. I dont have any girls numbers. I never got any. Even my freebie girl wont give me her# since she has a kid and her kids daddy shows up every so often.

I stayed on the California side and drove down with freaky1_4u. He is a cool dude, so if you are cool, he is a good hook up for TJ since he lives in SD and knows the TJ drill.

have fun. let me know if you want to hook up with him.

blanknamecruiser

Hey SF guys...your posts are great. I am from So. Cali and gotta admit the way you guys describe the AMP scene makes me want to move up there asap. Good luck.

sendittochunkymonkey@yahoo.com

I will be travelling to Concord and Walnut Creek this week. Can someone tell me where on this board I find info for those areas? I have never been there and cant find it on this board.

Is it listed under another town close by?

THanks
blanknamecruiser

Hey blnknamecruiser - sorry, don't know of anything in Concord but have info for only 1 in WC. I hear the LE is cracking down and this is the last place left (that I know of) so if you have an Instant Messenger handle (Yahoo/MSN/AOL) let me know and I'll share.

BTW: I asked Sara about posting her # and she was a bit hesitant so if you want her info too just let me know.

(still no luck w/Marie either)

theReyMan
I only have icq, no yahoo or aol.

Do you know an area in WC to cruise or a specific person?

If you know and area, please post for me.
Thanks

Sorry dude, only know of an AMP, not an area...although I've heard that SWs may be found 3-4 blocks away from the major hotels, but I can't say for sure as I've never seen any. Does anyone else?

Im in SF this for two more days and was interested in trying out Lee's, mostly from the good reviews here. Does anyone with experience there think its a good idea to walk there, or is it too risky? Currently I'm in a hotel near Chez Paree and the Market Street trolley stop.

If you suggest I take a taxi, should I just give the address directly, or have them stop a block or so away? I've never done an AMP before, only visiting MSC and other clubs in the past.

Thanks!

my friend. you can walk there. the area where Lee is located looks ify but it is actually very safe. i used to live just two block from there near the bill graham auditorium. bear in mind that Lee is located right next to bank of america (1/2 block) and city hall (2 blocks). so don't worry just walk there unless you are not sure where you are at. also, if you walk along market street, you might be bothered by some street pandlers asking for change. that's about it.

having lived in san francisco for many yrs (although i no longer live there now), i can atest that all s.f. (except bayview/hunters point) is very safe. honestly, san francisco virtually has no poor people :) until the techno depression, an average apartment (one bedroom) cost about 1500/month. so, unless you make good money, it is difficult to live there. i have lived in detroit, st. louis, austin, dallas, san antonio, denver and portland oregon, in terms of climate, lifestyle, culture, food and diversity of people.
none of these cities even come close to san francisco. enjoy :)

DevNova - You are within hailing distance of the Empire Massage on O'Farrell. That place serves up some fresh Korean pink snapper.

The earlier post is correct; S.F. is safe so long as you don't wander down to Hunter's Point in the evening. Just show people you are minding your own business but are willing to calmly put a foot up their ass if they get in your face.

Enjoy!

"Just show people you are minding your own business but are willing to calmly put a foot up their ass if they get in your face".

:) i don't want to give the wrong impression you have "to put a foot" to be safe. truly, the area you are referrinng to is quite safe and no need to be nervous. due to the banking center around the corner, the area is also quite heavily patrolled by LE. i have enjoyed jogging around that area while i lived in the city and never had problem.

The Mission is pathetic! I went out a 1:30 (late night), and cruised Capp and Shotwell and Folsom between 16 and 20 and saw not a single girl! Have they cleaned it up so bad? So after 45 minutes, I gave up and went to Sunflower, my favorite AMP, but they were ticketing for street cleaning and you had to park on another street. There were too many scary people on the street (and no normal people), so I went back to the Mission, cruised for another 30 minutes. Nothing! What to do!?!?

I have been solicited by SWs twice in North Beach...both on the same block (east side of Columus just below Broadway) and both on an early Sunday morning (8:30 or so).

They were both blondes, rather petite, looked and smelled like they had been up partying all night. One of them had a room over the hill near the marina. I was at work at the time, and could not take them up.

I have often wondered why there is not a lot more action in that area. Best answer is, that the club owners want tourists to spend their $$ on their girls, not the ones in the street. Still, it has potential.

Experienced my first AMP two nights ago, thanks to the advice here. Went to Lee's, walked and paused at the corner of 9th and Mission, waiting for a cop car to move past the red light there. Lee's looked closed, but I rang the buzzer anyway. About 10 seconds later, the door opened a crack and a very pretty girl leaned out the door, holding what looked like a towel over her top. At first I thought she was trying to tell me they had closed a half-hour ago, but she was saying $50 for half-hour massage. I said okay and was buzzed in.

I have to admit I was a bit shy walking in and just gave a quick glance at the girls sitting to the left. From what I could tell they were 7-9 IMO and one at least definitely stood out as endowed. It looked like at least 4-5 guys were in the back room beyond the desk. The mamasan directed "Here" for me to come to the desk and sign in. As soon as I was signed in, one of the girls immediately took me into a downstairs room and had me shower. After a great massage things got busy. I had no intention for FS, but she tried. I stopped her and finished with a BJ. Afterwards she and I talked for about 10 min. Probably made a mistake leaving the money on the table before the massage started, right? All I'd ever seen quoted here was about $160 -- is that for anything or FS? What would be appropriate for BJ?

If others think its appropriate, I'll post her name. I considered her rather cute.

denova

alright grasshopper. calm down. looks like you almost suffer a heart attack to get into Lee's. let the johan monk provide you with some enlightenment.

1. no need to wait for the cop car passed by. the cops know what Lee is all about, in fact, base on what the girls told me, some cops are regulars there. so, it is all covered. no need to be wishy washy.

2. if you are not comfortable to get in thru' the front door, go the the public parking lot at the back, there is a back entrance where not many hobbyists use. you sound like a white guy or at least a non asian bro. watch the asian bros. they walk in and out as if this was a StarBuck. you need to learn that attitude. attitude is everything.

3. $160- is the price inclusive of entrance fee, FS plus BJ. in fact, you can leave $150- if you have the exact change. also, you don't have to put the money upfront on the table. dole the $ to the girl afterwards.

4. grasshopper. Don't (again, Don't) take whatever girl come to you once you got into Lee's. the asian brothermen are your role models. once you got in, ask for a cup of water or tea, sit at the bench where all the guys sit, relax and check out the scene. check out all the girls. you ONLY go to the room with the girl you like and you select, not anyone who come to you. after you eye balled all the girl and make your selection, either make eye contact with the girl you like (you will recognize your intent) or tell the girl at the desk.

i hope this would elevate your skill set and heavenly experience to the next level.

jeffjimman,
Dont worry about it. Just a bad night. We all have them. I was cruising in Palo Alto/Menlo Park because after I quit cruising that area I lucked into a great hottie that I thought I could make a regular since she told me where to find her. With no luck this particular night I saw a girl I thought was her. Upon closer inspection she was someone else, but she wouldn;t get in and asked me to meet her in a parking lot down the stree, she met me there, acted like she was trying to kill time and not get in. finally I clued in and took off fast. Just in time to see her hommies walk around the corner I'm sure to beat my money out of me.

Lame nights happen. Just brush it off and take a break.

Does anyone know of a Filipina from AZ named Marcella, about mid 20's

Thanks

J

Now that Normandy has closed, where can I find an AMP staffed by caucasians?

I got a question about Lee's, what happens if I tell the girl I want to skip the massage and go straight to FS?

Bruce Lee,

Quit kicking and punching, relax alittle! What's the big hurry!
Get your massage and relax! But if you can't wait I'm sure you can get right to it! It's less work for her!

I went up to SF today and for the first time I went into MBOT. WOW!!!! The women in there were awesome. Very attractive. I didnt go for anything because I only had a couple of hundred on me. I went back to that room where you stand there and theres this mesh type curtain infront of you and the girls dance for you. The guy next to me tossd out a 20 and the 3 girls in there flocked to him. I heard him ask how much for FS and all the girl said was, and I quote " Do you have a credit card? " I was shocked as hell to hear that. After that I decided to hit up MSC and all I can say was I had a great time. I dropped $100 for FS and boy was it worth it.