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[QUOTE=Yardy00;3129486]I've been doing pretty well this past month, I've had about 6 or 7 m&g's, all gorgeous. 3 I'm seeing reguarly 200-300 and we easily spend 12+ hours together. Got 3 more m&g's setup to hopefully add to the rotation![/QUOTE]Are you just going to brag or give a poor guy some hints? (or leftovers).
[QUOTE=AlMelrose;3129631]Are you just going to brag or give a poor guy some hints? (or leftovers).[/QUOTE]All this is on SA. Normally I wouldn't mind sharing, but SA takes so much effort at times, I'm keeping these to myself. A little patience and nicely worded messages go a long way.
[QUOTE=AlMelrose;3129313]Wow, fat chicks sure have a way of hiding the fat in their photos. The last four I met were using real photos, (perhaps old, perhaps just strategically taken) Two were just obese. Had the drinks and / or lunch with three and left. One had gotten me so worked up over messaging that I just rented a notell for a few hours, her top half was not bad so got a BJ. I am doing something wrong, just no action. I am getting just crazy amount thrown out 500-800. Others ask for number to text, text for a bit and disappear. I had one blow you with a text every minute for about an hour and then nothing. I had one who wanted to meet gave me an intersection to meet her, I asked if we would then go to her place, she said can't host how about mine. Sure the overall texting seemed strange. So morning of I get message asking for my address, I tell we are going to hotel, so she asks for that address, may not be explaining correctly, but all seemed like a set-up to be robbed, so I passed. Had one who claimed to be a stripper, told me 300 per date, yes lunch was a date nothing else, I passed. I know my game sucks in real life, did not think it would suck this bad in the bowl. I read about guys getting top notch for 200. I am getting nothing (well I could be getting fat chicks, but not what I am looking for and not one that false advertise).[/QUOTE]Al,
I'm not sure if you've ever done any true dating sites. But some of the girls I met on there have had some AMAZING Photoshop done to hide the fat. Some of these girls were barely recognizable in real life.
Sorry, not much else to add, but I did get a LOL out of your message.
[QUOTE=Yardy00;3129705]All this is on SA. Normally I wouldn't mind sharing, but SA takes so much effort at times, I'm keeping these to myself. A little patience and nicely worded messages go a long way.[/QUOTE]Agreed with your last sentence there but I find if your not supporting these girls then they are open for business. If the profile is active your sharing. Takes 30 seconds or less to paste a link and makes stories seem much more credible.
[QUOTE=AlMelrose;3129313]Wow, fat chicks sure have a way of hiding the fat in their photos. The last four I met were using real photos, (perhaps old, perhaps just strategically taken) Two were just obese. Had the drinks and / or lunch with three and left. One had gotten me so worked up over messaging that I just rented a notell for a few hours, her top half was not bad so got a BJ. I am doing something wrong, just no action. I am getting just crazy amount thrown out 500-800. Others ask for number to text, text for a bit and disappear. I had one blow you with a text every minute for about an hour and then nothing. I had one who wanted to meet gave me an intersection to meet her, I asked if we would then go to her place, she said can't host how about mine. Sure the overall texting seemed strange. So morning of I get message asking for my address, I tell we are going to hotel, so she asks for that address, may not be explaining correctly, but all seemed like a set-up to be robbed, so I passed. Had one who claimed to be a stripper, told me 300 per date, yes lunch was a date nothing else, I passed. I know my game sucks in real life, did not think it would suck this bad in the bowl. I read about guys getting top notch for 200. I am getting nothing (well I could be getting fat chicks, but not what I am looking for and not one that false advertise).[/QUOTE]Tell them you've been burned by dudes pretending to be women, so you always video verify before meeting. That way you can skip having to buy drinks for someone you're not into. I do this with craigslist and OK Cupid dates. Saves a lot of hassle. If they refuse? You know they're not legit.
[QUOTE=AlMelrose;3129631]Are you just going to brag or give a poor guy some hints? (or leftovers).[/QUOTE]200-300 is what most of the beautiful girls want for just m&g for lunch. If there is one jackpot for 300 your winning the lottery to spend 12+ hours. If their profile is active your sharing, FACT.
[QUOTE=ZeroDark13;3130212]Tell them you've been burned by dudes pretending to be women, so you always video verify before meeting. That way you can skip having to buy drinks for someone you're not into. I do this with craigslist and OK Cupid dates. Saves a lot of hassle. If they refuse? You know they're not legit.[/QUOTE]I've been using snapchat recently too. Most of these young girls will have it on their phones already, and have no problems taking selfies for you.
This girl is really nice and needs help immediately. She needs a thousand by Tuesday to avoid being evicted. She seems open to doing almost everything to make you happy for an ongoing arrangement. If you're an SA member click the link to see her profile.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ab6e553d-1fee-403b-9148-e73c76354d9c[/URL]
There's a court case on People's Court. It involves a guy that signed up on "What's Your Price". He's suing a hot looking 20 something brunette because he shelled out 2500 dollars and didn't get what he wanted, which was Sex. Now he has buyer's remorse and wants his money back. Yeah. Good luck with that.
[QUOTE=RonM;3162091]There's a court case on People's Court. It involves a guy that signed up on "What's Your Price". He's suing a hot looking 20 something brunette because he shelled out 2500 dollars and didn't get what he wanted, which was Sex. Now he has buyer's remorse and wants his money back. Yeah. Good luck with that.[/QUOTE]Too bad he's not on Judge Judy, she'd bury him. My favorite ***** of all time!
Any of you locals have info on this SA girl? I am to meet her Monday night. She goes by BabyCyn.
[QUOTE=RonM;3162091]There's a court case on People's Court. It involves a guy that signed up on "What's Your Price". He's suing a hot looking 20 something brunette because he shelled out 2500 dollars and didn't get what he wanted, which was Sex. Now he has buyer's remorse and wants his money back. Yeah. Good luck with that.[/QUOTE]He should have put her on a payment plan. And, done a repo if it didn't work out.
[QUOTE=Natefarwell;3174692]Any of you locals have info on this SA girl? I am to meet her Monday night. She goes by BabyCyn.[/QUOTE]I had contact with her last May, but we never met up and she flaked out on a M&G. You got to let me know how it goes, that is one nice bod! Have a great time!
[QUOTE=DaddyOne23;3176092]I had contact with her last May, but we never met up and she flaked out on a M&G. You got to let me know how it goes, that is one nice bod! Have a great time![/QUOTE]We did meet up! She came out to Shiller Park from the L. I sent a Uber to pick her up and wow she is perfect. That bod is perfect. She is a nice young gal. After talking with her she is simply tired of SA bullshit and she puts her protective senses on a lot of time. Anyway it went according to how it should be.
[QUOTE=DaddyOne23;3176092]I had contact with her last May, but we never met up and she flaked out on a M&G. You got to let me know how it goes, that is one nice bod! Have a great time![/QUOTE]Have anyone had good luck in SA, I sign up over 2 weeks ago and all I get are Flaked SA girls and scammers, however I just looking at 18-22 years old, slim and / or athletic, so far I had about 5-6 cancel or no show. If anyone have some good meet up or hook up, that is less than 400 please let me know. I am about to give up on this SA site.
[QUOTE=Pal5600;3193982]Have anyone had good luck in SA, I sign up over 2 weeks ago and all I get are Flaked SA girls and scammers, however I just looking at 18-22 years old, slim and / or athletic, so far I had about 5-6 cancel or no show. If anyone have some good meet up or hook up, that is less than 400 please let me know. I am about to give up on this SA site.[/QUOTE]I had good luck early on last spring / early summer. But I got to tell you that its a little bit of work. I tried getting back into it during the fall, but I really had no time to put into this in order to suceed. I think if you are patient and have good repoire, you can have some good fun. For instance, my buddy Natefarewell bagged a smoking hottie I couldn't get. I got a hit with a gold coast cutie my first night on the site. So your experiences will vary greatly. Report back your experiences.
[QUOTE=DaddyOne23;3195191]I had good luck early on last spring / early summer. But I got to tell you that its a little bit of work. I tried getting back into it during the fall, but I really had no time to put into this in order to suceed. I think if you are patient and have good repoire, you can have some good fun. For instance, my buddy Natefarewell bagged a smoking hottie I couldn't get. I got a hit with a gold coast cutie my first night on the site. So your experiences will vary greatly. Report back your experiences.[/QUOTE]I thought if you have the money and a buyer, should be a lots easier to meet SA Hottie. But I guess not, I will keep trying for a few more weeks and see.
[QUOTE=DaddyOne23;3195191]I had good luck early on last spring / early summer. But I got to tell you that its a little bit of work. I tried getting back into it during the fall, but I really had no time to put into this in order to suceed. I think if you are patient and have good repoire, you can have some good fun. For instance, my buddy Natefarewell bagged a smoking hottie I couldn't get. I got a hit with a gold coast cutie my first night on the site. So your experiences will vary greatly. Report back your experiences.[/QUOTE]So what is Natefarewell secrets in meeting hot SA college co-ed, would like to know.
[QUOTE=Pal5600;3195445]So what is Natefarewell secrets in meeting hot SA college co-ed, would like to know.[/QUOTE]All,
I have had a lot of luck on SA. One thing to think is that what one person think is an arrangement may not be to another girl. For every one nice one I have met there have been many bad. No shows, late cancels, not the same as the pics, dinner and not fun. Many of things really. Did not offer enough, schedules don't match. Could go on and on. Just be patient and don't give up. That last hottie did two no shows on me before we met. Just text every now and then and ask how they are doing and talk to them normally. Its really easy to be honest.
[QUOTE=Pal5600;3195246]I thought if you have the money and a buyer, should be a lots easier to meet SA Hottie. But I guess not, I will keep trying for a few more weeks and see.[/QUOTE]You would think that, but you got to remember that these gals aren't pros (for the most part) so they need to keep that illusion that they are not prostituting themselves. I think they want to be treated like a NSA FwB who gets paid the occasional gift.
[QUOTE=DaddyOne23;3197797]You would think that, but you got to remember that these gals aren't pros (for the most part) so they need to keep that illusion that they are not prostituting themselves. I think they want to be treated like a NSA FwB who gets paid the occasional gift.[/QUOTE]Is funny how women define sex for money differently.
[QUOTE=Pal5600;3195445]So what is Natefarewell secrets in meeting hot SA college co-ed, would like to know.[/QUOTE]I've had a lot of success with arrangements, both locally and nationally when I travel for business (which is quite often). The best advice I can give you is that in the first 3-5 exchanges you should try to figure out if they're open to a "physical" or "intimate" type of arrangement. It's kind of tricky because most sugar babies don't want to hear you say the words "physical" or "intimate", so I try to drive the conversation so that they say it themselves. My opening message is usually a question asking them what they're open to in an arrangement and what they would expect for a per meet allowance. If they say they're open to anything, asking if there's anything in particular that's on or off the table and that should do the trick.
Reading their profile before messaging helps a lot in filtering the SBs that are receptive to an intimate arrangement. Positive signs are if they include FWB, NSA, no strings, casual, no stress, or if their private photos are revealing. Red flags are if they're only looking for an online arrangement, if they expect an allowance for a meet-and-greet coffee date, or if their expectation is above 'Substantial'.
All in all, I much rather prefer arrangements to escorts. Usually the per meet allowance is much less than what you'd pay for escorts, includes GFE, multiple hours, etc. Just like escorting, what you pay for is usually what you get, but you can easily find a nice co-ed for a few hundred per meet if you play your cards right.
[QUOTE=Mike1179;3205188]I've had a lot of success with arrangements, both locally and nationally when I travel for business (which is quite often). The best advice I can give you is that in the first 3-5 exchanges you should try to figure out if they're open to a "physical" or "intimate" type of arrangement. It's kind of tricky because most sugar babies don't want to hear you say the words "physical" or "intimate", so I try to drive the conversation so that they say it themselves. My opening message is usually a question asking them what they're open to in an arrangement and what they would expect for a per meet allowance. If they say they're open to anything, asking if there's anything in particular that's on or off the table and that should do the trick.
Reading their profile before messaging helps a lot in filtering the SBs that are receptive to an intimate arrangement. Positive signs are if they include FWB, NSA, no strings, casual, no stress, or if their private photos are revealing. Red flags are if they're only looking for an online arrangement, if they expect an allowance for a meet-and-greet coffee date, or if their expectation is above 'Substantial'.
All in all, I much rather prefer arrangements to escorts. Usually the per meet allowance is much less than what you'd pay for escorts, includes GFE, multiple hours, etc. Just like escorting, what you pay for is usually what you get, but you can easily find a nice co-ed for a few hundred per meet if you play your cards right.[/QUOTE]I agree with you on that, the problems is everything agree until the day that we are to meet and the girls back out, flaked or cancel, happen like 3-4 times now, also I am very picky, just want 18-22 slim or athletic college girls that look super hot (I am not into mom, old ladies, fat ladies, drug ladies, ect)(if you going to spend money, why not get the best girls out there), I did had 2 arrangements one is 18 and another is 19 college co-ed both are super hot and they know it, they claim to have 10+ message from SA guy a day so they can pick whoever they want, so they price are 300-400. So you get what you paid for. I had oppertunity with 200 $ girls but they are average (as in older, not really hot) so I pass, for me I rather per more with super hot girls, then paid less with average girls because they don't turn me on, that is mainly my problems.
[QUOTE=Mike1179;3205188]I've had a lot of success with arrangements, both locally and nationally when I travel for business (which is quite often). The best advice I can give you is that in the first 3-5 exchanges you should try to figure out if they're open to a "physical" or "intimate" type of arrangement. It's kind of tricky because most sugar babies don't want to hear you say the words "physical" or "intimate", so I try to drive the conversation so that they say it themselves. My opening message is usually a question asking them what they're open to in an arrangement and what they would expect for a per meet allowance. If they say they're open to anything, asking if there's anything in particular that's on or off the table and that should do the trick.
Reading their profile before messaging helps a lot in filtering the SBs that are receptive to an intimate arrangement. Positive signs are if they include FWB, NSA, no strings, casual, no stress, or if their private photos are revealing. Red flags are if they're only looking for an online arrangement, if they expect an allowance for a meet-and-greet coffee date, or if their expectation is above 'Substantial'.
All in all, I much rather prefer arrangements to escorts. Usually the per meet allowance is much less than what you'd pay for escorts, includes GFE, multiple hours, etc. Just like escorting, what you pay for is usually what you get, but you can easily find a nice co-ed for a few hundred per meet if you play your cards right.[/QUOTE]I would be interest in something like these.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/2c854250-10d5-4e17-8a4f-e62521dc5504[/URL]
Or [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/b809490a-001f-4ae0-9e3f-5a76c7af412e[/URL].
Or [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/c7b9a4c8-3a50-46d2-812a-cd7b53dba23d[/URL].
Or [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/77e58440-c04f-4b7d-84f0-0aa7a2d94feb[/URL].
[QUOTE=Mike1179;3205188]I've had a lot of success with arrangements, both locally and nationally when I travel for business (which is quite often). The best advice I can give you is that in the first 3-5 exchanges you should try to figure out if they're open to a "physical" or "intimate" type of arrangement. It's kind of tricky because most sugar babies don't want to hear you say the words "physical" or "intimate", so I try to drive the conversation so that they say it themselves. My opening message is usually a question asking them what they're open to in an arrangement and what they would expect for a per meet allowance. If they say they're open to anything, asking if there's anything in particular that's on or off the table and that should do the trick.
Reading their profile before messaging helps a lot in filtering the SBs that are receptive to an intimate arrangement. Positive signs are if they include FWB, NSA, no strings, casual, no stress, or if their private photos are revealing. Red flags are if they're only looking for an online arrangement, if they expect an allowance for a meet-and-greet coffee date, or if their expectation is above 'Substantial'.
All in all, I much rather prefer arrangements to escorts. Usually the per meet allowance is much less than what you'd pay for escorts, includes GFE, multiple hours, etc. Just like escorting, what you pay for is usually what you get, but you can easily find a nice co-ed for a few hundred per meet if you play your cards right.[/QUOTE]Another example this girl madi [URL]http://www.explicitchicago.com/madi.html[/URL] whenever is available on BP, she all book up within hours, why is that? Answer because is young and hot, that is kinda my point.
[QUOTE=Pal5600;3206299]Another example this girl madi [URL]http://www.explicitchicago.com/madi.html[/URL] whenever is available on BP, she all book up within hours, why is that? Answer because is young and hot, that is kinda my point.[/QUOTE]The sugardaddy sites can be frustrating because the women have a large number of horny guys filling their mailbox, and even after they say they will meet you, they are still wading through offers that come in and may find something they think is better. So they change their mind and flake on you. Part of the territory I think.
[QUOTE=Shorty58;3207102]The sugardaddy sites can be frustrating because the women have a large number of horny guys filling their mailbox, and even after they say they will meet you, they are still wading through offers that come in and may find something they think is better. So they change their mind and flake on you. Part of the territory I think.[/QUOTE]Yea. I agree with you on that, when I join SA site, I was hoping to meet some of the girls like on this website [URL]http://www.girlsdoporn.com/page1.php[/URL] , I believe is possible but turn out to be much more difficult then I thought, I rather paid more for college co-ed hottie, then less for average girls because they do nothing for me.
[QUOTE=BenSpend;3222784]This one was good for a BnG a couple times but went dark on me. Anyone with better luck?
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/messages/8ce960f1-f582-11e5-ba92-14187727e860?mailbox=inbox[/URL][/QUOTE]Link is to your conversation with her, not her profile.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/1ac3c1aa-a986-4414-a256-db31541a7592[/URL]
Got a weird vibe from the texts, finally checked number on FB, it was a guy.
About Me.
Literally I just need money, I'm a broke college kid wanting to pay of student loans early and have some spending money for myself.
What I'm Looking for.
We talk, you give me money, I say thank you, and we done. No meet-ups or calls or anything, that's too personal for me.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/86f96ac9-07fc-4c28-896b-0d2860de61e8[/URL]
Loves the dirtiest of talk! Don't be a dom poser she is true sub. Loves big dicks and craves it in her ass. 40 years old but is as sexy as any youngster I have ever plugged! Treat her well and treat her like the anal loving cumslut she is!
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/cf2d0eef-ceb1-458c-8928-3fc7667d6dfe[/URL]
Hey guys. Biggest question is on the allowance concept. Do you pay per month and if so, at the end of the month? Does it fluctuate depending on how often you end up seeing the girl?
I'm trying. To avoid paying upfront and then someone going dark -
[QUOTE=AlMelrose;3231532][URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/1ac3c1aa-a986-4414-a256-db31541a7592[/URL]
Got a weird vibe from the texts, finally checked number on FB, it was a guy.[/QUOTE]Might be a sugar daddy who got the phone service hooked up for her because she had no money or credit for a phone. I have encountered girls who needed help paying phone bills or loading their phone with new money to keep using. PM me her digits and I will check it out for you and report.
[QUOTE=Colesmithe;3285541]Hey guys. Biggest question is on the allowance concept. Do you pay per month and if so, at the end of the month? Does it fluctuate depending on how often you end up seeing the girl?
I'm trying. To avoid paying upfront and then someone going dark -[/QUOTE]Negotiate! You can get away with it on SA. Request a "per visit" arrangement and if she's not up to snuff move on.
[QUOTE=Colesmithe;3285541]Hey guys. Biggest question is on the allowance concept. Do you pay per month and if so, at the end of the month? Does it fluctuate depending on how often you end up seeing the girl?
I'm trying. To avoid paying upfront and then someone going dark -[/QUOTE]On a per meeting basis only.
[QUOTE=BenSpend;3285675]Negotiate! You can get away with it on SA. Request a "per visit" arrangement and if she's not up to snuff move on.[/QUOTE]Yeah, trust but verify. If you pay per meet, it's going to feel a lot like an escort, which is something I don't prefer, but you have to get to a certain stage of trusting a girl before you're going to put up the whole month worth. I've done a deal where I negotiate the monthly but also an initial meet sugar, and if after the first time one person doesn't want to continue, that's the end. This is a way to get a maybe little hotter girl than you can afford but don't want to commit big sugar for the long haul. I have advanced girls $ before the exact FC time a few times, and about 50% the girl has ghosted. The one who didn't is my current long-term SB, though. Use your guts. Even w / my regular, I will give her like half her sugar on the 1st and half the next time I see her. But I'm not really ever worried she's going to bail. She wants to 'see where this goes'. Yeah, she's 22, I'm >60 and married. lol
[QUOTE=AlMelrose;3283859]About Me.
Literally I just need money, I'm a broke college kid wanting to pay of student loans early and have some spending money for myself.
What I'm Looking for.
We talk, you give me money, I say thank you, and we done. No meet-ups or calls or anything, that's too personal for me.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/86f96ac9-07fc-4c28-896b-0d2860de61e8[/URL][/QUOTE]'Hey, talk is cheap. Here is a dollar' !
[QUOTE=AlMelrose;3283859]About Me.
Literally I just need money, I'm a broke college kid wanting to pay of student loans early and have some spending money for myself.
What I'm Looking for.
We talk, you give me money, I say thank you, and we done. No meet-ups or calls or anything, that's too personal for me.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/86f96ac9-07fc-4c28-896b-0d2860de61e8[/URL][/QUOTE]Well at least she's being honest upfront about being a Rip Off. If someone falls for this they deserve to get Ripped Off.
[QUOTE=Colesmithe;3285541]Hey guys. Biggest question is on the allowance concept. Do you pay per month and if so, at the end of the month? Does it fluctuate depending on how often you end up seeing the girl?
I'm trying. To avoid paying upfront and then someone going dark -[/QUOTE]I've never done the arrangements but I've read a lot about it on the Richmond, Virginia forum which has several years of posts. If you have a chance take a look - maybe try the search function too. From what I've read if you pay upfront you're asking to be taken. There are a lot of con artists out there and a lot will flake on a date even before gifts are exchanged. So if you give them an allowance at the beginning of the month I'd suspect many will have little incentive to see you. If they really have a problem with receiving gifts each time tell them you don't have to give them anything if it makes them feel better. As a general rule I wouldn't trust anyone on there. If they have a problem there are others out there ready to take her place.
[QUOTE=Kellster;3286629]I've never done the arrangements but I've read a lot about it on the Richmond, Virginia forum which has several years of posts. If you have a chance take a look - maybe try the search function too. From what I've read if you pay upfront you're asking to be taken. There are a lot of con artists out there and a lot will flake on a date even before gifts are exchanged. So if you give them an allowance at the beginning of the month I'd suspect many will have little incentive to see you. If they really have a problem with receiving gifts each time tell them you don't have to give them anything if it makes them feel better. As a general rule I wouldn't trust anyone on there. If they have a problem there are others out there ready to take her place.[/QUOTE]Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. Will post some of my experiences soon as I have done 2 M&G and 2 coming up this week. It's interesting to see the differences in approach from each of the four women thus far.