I have noticed that starting today hardly anybody on BP Escort is listing a price? I wonder if that is a new rule or are the ladies just shying away from mentioning money (or roses)? Bill Ho
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I have noticed that starting today hardly anybody on BP Escort is listing a price? I wonder if that is a new rule or are the ladies just shying away from mentioning money (or roses)? Bill Ho
I think I met a pimp. I'm new to the area & I post on BP. I got a call from sum guy who said he can make me some money. I'm indy but curiosity got me so I met him. He had 5 guys with him & 1 other girl. He said he's got girls all over fl & in other states to. He said he's a rapper & needs some $$ to get his rapper thing off the ground.
He said he posts his girls on BP & some other sites as indy at real good rates but he said he always gets atleast like 400 out of every client. He said he can send 1 of his friends with me on calls to make sure I get it. He said I can work on my tips to for even more $$ because as long as he gets his money he doesn't care. He said he gets each girl a prepaid cell from sprint, metro pcs or verizon & the girls pick up the phone & book their own calls but not supposed to tell the client about tips & stuff on the phone. He said he gets alot of clients who are upscale business men. He said most of the girls he's got now in my area are not real hot looking or they're to big. He said he's got to bring in thin one's from other states they stay a few days then they're gone he needs sum thin & hot local girls.
I asked how he gets work & he said he uses this site. Him & his friends go on & sound like real respectable clients & review their girls up real nice mostly this site but he said there's other sites they do it on to. He made me feel like if I didn't work for him & his friends he'd review me real bad he said that's how they get rid of any competition. He said he's got like alot of reviewer accounts with different names he uses in different places, different names, different cities. I heard of girls writing their own reviews before but I never heard of anything like this guy & his friends are doing.
I called some other independents like me & they said he has been around a while but he's new to central fl but he's been in tampa, orlando & south fl a while & they got the same call from him I got the other day. 1 girl I talked to said he reviewed her real bad when she said no to working for him. I don't want to get reviewed bad but I don't want to work for a pimp!
He said he can offer me security makes sure 1 of his friends will get the $$ out of the clients I see for him. He said "if you work for us you won't have to wory about getting bad reviews." that made me feel threaten.
[QUOTE=Sexysal; 1102371]I think I met a pimp. I'm new to the area & I post on BP. I got a call from sum guy who said he can make me some money. I'm indy but curiosity got me so I met him. He had 5 guys with him & 1 other girl. He said he's got girls all over fl & in other states to. He said he's a rapper & needs some $$ to get his rapper thing off the ground.
He said he posts his girls on BP & some other sites as indy at real good rates but he said he always gets atleast like 400 out of every client. He said he can send 1 of his friends with me on calls to make sure I get it. He said I can work on my tips to for even more $$ because as long as he gets his money he doesn't care. He said he gets each girl a prepaid cell from sprint, metro pcs or verizon & the girls pick up the phone & book their own calls but not supposed to tell the client about tips & stuff on the phone. He said he gets alot of clients who are upscale business men. He said most of the girls he's got now in my area are not real hot looking or they're to big. He said he's got to bring in thin one's from other states they stay a few days then they're gone he needs sum thin & hot local girls.
I asked how he gets work & he said he uses this site. Him & his friends go on & sound like real respectable clients & review their girls up real nice mostly this site but he said there's other sites they do it on to. He made me feel like if I didn't work for him & his friends he'd review me real bad he said that's how they get rid of any competition. He said he's got like alot of reviewer accounts with different names he uses in different places, different names, different cities. I heard of girls writing their own reviews before but I never heard of anything like this guy & his friends are doing.
I called some other independents like me & they said he has been around a while but he's new to central fl but he's been in tampa, orlando & south fl a while & they got the same call from him I got the other day. 1 girl I talked to said he reviewed her real bad when she said no to working for him. I don't want to get reviewed bad but I don't want to work for a pimp!
He said he can offer me security makes sure 1 of his friends will get the $$ out of the clients I see for him. He said "if you work for us you won't have to wory about getting bad reviews." that made me feel threaten. [/QUOTE]
A few comments on your post: 400 is really high $$ for BP advertisers, at least in Florida. Have you seen ads and websites for girls in the 400 plus range? They are approaching Playboy magazine quality. I've never seen you, but you better have the looks and personality to consider commanding those rates. If his take is 400 have you considered what will you have to ask to get a decent cut yourself? In the industry it's called upsell and considered dishonest by the client. Him sending "1 of his friends with me on calls to make sure I get it" is a blatant threat of violence toward your clients. You could end up an accessory to an assault and or / robbery if it ever happened. His business model is everything that your potential clients detest. The legitimate guys you meet will give you poor reviews over it and those will equal or surpass the fake ones he posts. The guys on these sites are pretty smart. They've learned to recognize fake reviews posted by pimps or the girl herself. There is back channel communication among them, so they know who the real reviewers are. Of course you'll get some new guys who aren't aware of these sites, but the upsell and strong arm tactics may lead them to join a site and post bad reviews of you. Besides, do you really want to hand over your earnings to some one else? Watch some news specials on MSNBC or do some net research on working for a pimp. These guys aren't Heidi Fleiss. They don't give a shit about you. You are an ATM to them and it could get rough for you if you don't deliver or want to quit. As it is he's threatening you with bad reviews if you won't become a sex slave for him. Yes, that's what it is. You would be giving up your control over your own body and decisions. If you are not a drug user you will be once you are working for him. Getting you addicted is a tool to keep you obedient.
On the other hand, all the things you were offered you can do for yourself. Cheap per minute cell from Walmart, advertise on BP or where ever. Offer good, honest service and you'll build a clientele base who will support your reputation with positive reviews. Just be sure you really want to do this. The guys you meet can tell if you aren't into it and it will keep them from returning or reflect in their reviews.
[QUOTE=Longhairngotee; 1103013]A few comments on your post: 400 is really high $$ for BP advertisers, at least in Florida. Have you seen ads and websites for girls in the 400 plus range? They are approaching Playboy magazine quality. I've never seen you, but you better have the looks and personality to consider commanding those rates. If his take is 400 have you considered what will you have to ask to get a decent cut yourself? In the industry it's called upsell and considered dishonest by the client. Him sending "1 of his friends with me on calls to make sure I get it" is a blatant threat of violence toward your clients. You could end up an accessory to an assault and or / robbery if it ever happened. His business model is everything that your potential clients detest. The legitimate guys you meet will give you poor reviews over it and those will equal or surpass the fake ones he posts. The guys on these sites are pretty smart. They've learned to recognize fake reviews posted by pimps or the girl herself. There is back channel communication among them, so they know who the real reviewers are. Of course you'll get some new guys who aren't aware of these sites, but the upsell and strong arm tactics may lead them to join a site and post bad reviews of you. Besides, do you really want to hand over your earnings to some one else? Watch some news specials on MSNBC or do some net research on working for a pimp. These guys aren't Heidi Fleiss. They don't give a shit about you. You are an ATM to them and it could get rough for you if you don't deliver or want to quit. As it is he's threatening you with bad reviews if you won't become a sex slave for him. Yes, that's what it is. You would be giving up your control over your own body and decisions. If you are not a drug user you will be once you are working for him. Getting you addicted is a tool to keep you obedient.
On the other hand, all the things you were offered you can do for yourself. Cheap per minute cell from Walmart, advertise on BP or where ever. Offer good, honest service and you'll build a clientele base who will support your reputation with positive reviews. Just be sure you really want to do this. The guys you meet can tell if you aren't into it and it will keep them from returning or reflect in their reviews. [/QUOTE]He calls me all the time he just called me today! Your advice is real good. Thanks! He said he's got like 4 girls in gainesville right now & he said they're all black & hispanic so he really wants a white one so I guess thats why he called me. He said he can get me alot of money tho but I never had anyone go with me on a call before. I don't want a bad rep for roughing up clients with a pimp either. And yeah he sounds like a dealer or druggie.
I thought about what you said about me being independent. So I talked 2 some girls & they're on backpage in gainesville where I am now. They're sayen they're full service but they told me they can't say that on the phone because the stings around the area are so bad. One girl told me she got busted just for sayen full service on the phone when she was booking. So that kinda scared me off.
Mr. Pimp is sayen he's from miami & he's sayen his girls get up to a grand or more on a call in gainesville even if he's got to go to the atm with the guy. So you're probably right about what you said about the pimp guy making threats to the clients. He probably does. He's sayen he'll get me a hotel room & everything. But I don't like his threats about sayen bad things about me on this site & other sites if I don't want to work for him. You said guys here can tell the diferance between real reviews & lies. But this pimp, he said he's doing it right now to girls in gainesville who won't work for him because he needs white girls real bad. He's sayen he's been doing it for a long time & nothing I say will matter. Is that true? I'm not wanting to work for somebody who threatens girls like he's already doing to me.
[QUOTE=Longhairngotee; 1103013]A few comments on your post: 400 is really high $$ for BP advertisers, at least in Florida. Have you seen ads and websites for girls in the 400 plus range? They are approaching Playboy magazine quality. I've never seen you, but you better have the looks and personality to consider commanding those rates. If his take is 400 have you considered what will you have to ask to get a decent cut yourself? In the industry it's called upsell and considered dishonest by the client. Him sending "1 of his friends with me on calls to make sure I get it" is a blatant threat of violence toward your clients. You could end up an accessory to an assault and or / robbery if it ever happened. His business model is everything that your potential clients detest. The legitimate guys you meet will give you poor reviews over it and those will equal or surpass the fake ones he posts. The guys on these sites are pretty smart. They've learned to recognize fake reviews posted by pimps or the girl herself. There is back channel communication among them, so they know who the real reviewers are. Of course you'll get some new guys who aren't aware of these sites, but the upsell and strong arm tactics may lead them to join a site and post bad reviews of you. Besides, do you really want to hand over your earnings to some one else? Watch some news specials on MSNBC or do some net research on working for a pimp. These guys aren't Heidi Fleiss. They don't give a shit about you. You are an ATM to them and it could get rough for you if you don't deliver or want to quit. As it is he's threatening you with bad reviews if you won't become a sex slave for him. Yes, that's what it is. You would be giving up your control over your own body and decisions. If you are not a drug user you will be once you are working for him. Getting you addicted is a tool to keep you obedient.
On the other hand, all the things you were offered you can do for yourself. Cheap per minute cell from Walmart, advertise on BP or where ever. Offer good, honest service and you'll build a clientele base who will support your reputation with positive reviews. Just be sure you really want to do this. The guys you meet can tell if you aren't into it and it will keep them from returning or reflect in their reviews. [/QUOTE]I thought about what you said & I decided to do it but on my own not for sum jerk no matter how many reviews he can make up about me. I'm sure like you said alot of the guys will know I'm a nice girl once they get 2 meet me. I thought about what you said about him and your right because theres sum girls around I talked to. The 1 girl I talked 2 yesterday said she's got steady clientele from posting on backpage for a year. And she's working for hersef no one else to bug her. So I can do the same thing and meet sum nice guys like you! Thankx again for your help!
[QUOTE=Sexysal;1103471]I thought about what you said & I decided to do it but on my own not for sum jerk no matter how many reviews he can make up about me. I'm sure like you said alot of the guys will know I'm a nice girl once they get 2 meet me. I thought about what you said about him and your right because theres sum girls around I talked to. The 1 girl I talked 2 yesterday said she's got steady clientele from posting on backpage for a year. And she's working for hersef no one else to bug her. So I can do the same thing and meet sum nice guys like you! Thankx again for your help![/QUOTE]Good luck. Do your research about things like the LE check, screening, etc. Be careful and stay safe.
[QUOTE=Longhairngotee;1103653]Good luck. Do your research about things like the LE check, screening, etc. Be careful and stay safe.[/QUOTE]Whats the LE check? I don't want to get in trouble for anything. I told you I talked to a girl on backpage she said she got arrested just for sayen Full Service on the phone when she was booking the call. I read online there was a sting they set up in a house to! I talked to a few local girls who are independents they're all sayen the same thing. They're scared shitless because of the last time there was a sting the cop wasn't a cop he was just a regular guy & he got naked & had a boner & everything he let the girls touch him he touched them to then once that happened boom here come the real cops after a couple minutes. So I'm scared to hug a guy just sayen Hello!
I know you can't believe everything you hear but so many girls sayen the same thing & seeing it proof of what they're all sayen all online is pretty scarey. I read about how the fbi raided escorts. Com & like a bunch of other sites escorts like to go on & how they're maken everyone put credit card info into the websites & sayen it's all free so they can watch them & see what they have said in the past & arrest them on it. I wouldn't go in escorts. Com or whatever site because I read it & I'm not that dum. Maybe a horny guy will be tho LOL LOL! But if I go on a call theres no for real way 2 tell a guys for real or a cop decoy I read as they're callin them. Now with cops taken over reviewer names as they arrest them I gess I'll never know 4 sure until the call is over so its pretty scary because I don't want to be arrested. So many people sayen the same thing who been busted is scary.
[QUOTE=Longhairngotee;1103653]Good luck. Do your research about things like the LE check, screening, etc. Be careful and stay safe.[/QUOTE]So how do I check for le? Like I said I talked to independents who are all sayen the same thing. The last sting was in a house! I read it & I know there are no entrapping laws but for a cop decoy to get naked with a boner & let the girls touch him & touching the girls seems to much but they're doing it. I gess because they can. So I went online & did sum reserch & I'm not that dum to go on escorts. Com because I read how the fbi raded them & how they're haven them make everyone put their card info in there on all the sites they raded & how they're sayen "your card won't be charged its all free" so they can get the info & arrest them I'm not that dum to do it LOL LOL maybe sum horny guys are tho LOL!
But so howdo I check for le because I know you can't believe everything you hear but all these girls from all over sayen the same thing. And if they're maken these girls who get busted tell all their callers to go put their card info in these sites. Like I said I'm not that dum to put my card info anywhere or see a guy who goes on there. But when I get in a room if the cops can use as they call them decoy men who been busted & they're using the sites to do it then how do I know for sure for real? Because if they can get naked with a boner like I read & touch me then theres no for sure way to know. I'm not dum I'm sure they're reading this right now LOL because of what I read but its all scary. I gess I have to be careful then.
[QUOTE=Sexysal;1103471]I thought about what you said & I decided to do it but on my own not for sum jerk no matter how many reviews he can make up about me. I'm sure like you said alot of the guys will know I'm a nice girl once they get 2 meet me. I thought about what you said about him and your right because theres sum girls around I talked to. The 1 girl I talked 2 yesterday said she's got steady clientele from posting on backpage for a year. And she's working for hersef no one else to bug her. So I can do the same thing and meet sum nice guys like you! Thankx again for your help![/QUOTE]Hi SS. One thing you can do is to advertise yourself in the escort advertisment thread, right here on this great forum. You'd want to be sure that you follow forum protocol, of course.
What this means is that guys from this forum will PM (personal message) you to set up the appts. This is located on the top right toolbar of your computer. It's called notifications. It will show you how many PM's you have in your inbox. Just click on it and then click on your inbox. They will all be there. You can find out a wealth of information on these guys by simpling clicking on their handle. This will enable you to read his past reviews, posts, and also look at his personal profile. What a guy posts says a lot about his character. Read over quite a few of his past posts to get a feel for the individual. Our handle also lists how many posts we've made. Obviously, one with more posts would be more advantageous for getting a good review. You pick up a few respected SM's for clients that give you good reviews, and pimp boy's posts will be insignificant.
Do not allow this person to bully and intimidate you. I agree completely with what the other mongers have said already. If you think you're being intimidated now, wait till you work for this piece of garbage. You may have saved yourself a life of slavery. You now know his voice and his phone digits. Be aware that he may call from a different phone. He may also try to set up an appt with you or have someone else do it for him. If he contacts you again, hang up immediately. Don't try to talk to him. Do not see him under any circumstances! Do NOT fall for his line of BS. He's trying to control you and move you into his web of lies. This can be serious business. My. 02.
[QUOTE=Vino 7373; 1105583]Hi SS. One thing you can do is to advertise yourself in the escort advertisment thread, right here on this great forum. You'd want to be sure that you follow forum protocol, of course.
What this means is that guys from this forum will PM (personal message) you to set up the appts. This is located on the top right toolbar of your computer. It's called notifications. It will show you how many PM's you have in your inbox. Just click on it and then click on your inbox. They will all be there. You can find out a wealth of information on these guys by simpling clicking on their handle. This will enable you to read his past reviews, posts, and also look at his personal profile. What a guy posts says a lot about his character. Read over quite a few of his past posts to get a feel for the individual. Our handle also lists how many posts we've made. Obviously, one with more posts would be more advantageous for getting a good review. You pick up a few respected SM's for clients that give you good reviews, and pimp boy's posts will be insignificant.
Do not allow this person to bully and intimidate you. I agree completely with what the other mongers have said already. If you think you're being intimidated now, wait till you work for this piece of garbage. You may have saved yourself a life of slavery. You now know his voice and his phone digits. Be aware that he may call from a different phone. He may also try to set up an appt with you or have someone else do it for him. If he contacts you again, hang up immediately. Don't try to talk to him. Do not see him under any circumstances! Do NOT fall for his line of BS. He's trying to control you and move you into his web of lies. This can be serious business. My. 02. [/QUOTE]Hi. Ok thanks for your help but I got 1 question. Because pimp boys got so many "senior member" reveiwer names how do I know I'm not making a date to see him & he's going to kick me as* for outing him on this site & other sites he's on or what if he uses 1 of his reviewer names with all the reviews he's got to say stuff about me? Because he's real mad. He's sayen he's already doing it. He's sayen he's been doing it for like 2 years I think he said. Not being mean but for all I know you could be him he showed me some of his reports & he sounds real smart & respectable like just like you not that he's you, I'm just sayen. I'm not sayen your him I'm just sayen you could be him because he's got so many from way back it's a big biz for him you know. He showed me & he's real smart & sounds real good in all on them.
So what do I do? If I post here he'll find me here for sure. He's mad as it is because I won't work for him.
Just thought I'd say thank you to all that contribute to these pages. I view daily from the UK trying to keep abreast (LOL) of all the reports so that when I visit again in July I might make a better job of mongering than on past visits and maybe will be able to post a useful report myself.
Cannot seem to get info easily out of the search facility but hell I've got another 6 months of practice. On past visits I've only ever used CL or BP which were both expensive and unreliable. Got a couple of ATF's but neither seem to be posting now. I think I'd like to try out a SW but not certain I'm confident enough to do a sweep myself. It would be nice if some of the more experienced mongers were able to 'point me in the right direction'.
Not certain how this request will be received, after all I have no track record, but it would be good to get some feedback either pm or forum.
Happy mongering to all, a big thank you and stay safe.
BD
What's up with all the providers shaving their snatch? Do you guys think that makes them sexier or is it a hygiene thing? I personally really like a nice trimmed Bush, just look up Skylar Paige or Lena Ramone these days or have a look at porn from the 80s and 90s and you'll see some bueno arbusto!
I miss the enchanted forest!
[QUOTE=Sleeper 100; 1211202]What's up with all the providers shaving their snatch? Do you guys think that makes them sexier or is it a hygiene thing? I personally really like a nice trimmed Bush, just look up Skylar Paige or Lena Ramone these days or have a look at porn from the 80s and 90s and you'll see some bueno arbusto!
I miss the enchanted forest! [/QUOTE]They say is a hygiene thing. I myself like them clean and keeps anything from sticking. If they (the provider) don't want it clean it should be trim.
[QUOTE=Davidonecall;1211246]They say is a hygiene thing. I myself like them clean and keeps anything from sticking. If they (the provider) don't want it clean it should be trim.[/QUOTE]I agree!
Imagine if you DATY and just even the slightest tiniest residue from a previous monger were lurking in that forest. EUGH!
Shaven bald or at least well trimmed every time for me please.
BD
[QUOTE=Beady; 1211250]I agree!
Imagine if you DATY and just even the slightest tiniest residue from a previous monger were lurking in that forest. EUGH!
Shaven bald or at least well trimmed every time for me please.
BD[/QUOTE]Yes a nice clean one is always better. It always better when it looks and smells good.