Rants, Raves, and Opinions

[QUOTE=ItaloSamoa;2107158]It's the honor among thieves rule guys and we're ALL taking a risk here to hook up, now aren't we?

SO, this post won't win me many friends here, but it needs to be said.

Of the 2 dozen girls I've dated in just the last 6 months, not one had a fake pic and I could list them all and prove it. Some hid their faces and I have no problem with that as THAT MUCH is completely understandable if they so choose. None had legal troubles any more for their craft than the fakes running specials, ripoffs, scams and more and some probably a lot less because they're both honest and smart.

I'll admit, I'm picky, but I treat women like they deserve to be treated and get rewarded for it with each visit too. I also don't try to haggle with women and tell them they're worth less than they believe they are which in most cases results in a reward with the right women (The honest ones I'm referring to).

To each his own, but I'll walk from a fake that won't admit she's not as publicized and especially any flat out liar. That's the first red flag and the last for me. Maybe if some walked away from the initial red flags, they'd have less bad experiences? I dunno.

The good / best women are rarely cheap to be with, but they're honest, trustworthy and are SO worth the time and effort and when treated well, usually respond in kind. (In difficult situations they respond with complete class as well, but that's another experience and story entirely, Thanks again BDL).

List one higher class woman whom we all know about, who posts fake info and denies it who's had all these imagined problems with the legal system. I can post dozens who have none. WHY can't the perceived lower level women do the same? Is it because they're 50-100 less? Baloney.

The last woman I was with, we'll call her MF, told me as I was kissing her good bye, that any time I call, she'd bump anyone to see me. The rewards outweigh the little benefits you feel you get in haggling or compromising. Not only was she another real and exactly as advertised and more woman, but also full of class and trustworthy.

You guys can certainly all have the same response from women in this hobby if you change your way of thinking about them AND we can all reduce the number of scammers out there.

I don't think I'm special in any way, I just don't treat women with any disrespect and as she and others have expressed to me, that's pretty rare. So I say, a lot of you guys may be missing the opportunity for something better than you imagined things could be in this hobby.

CE, I'm sorry my friend, but what you describe is the rules for "How to deal with scammers".

My rule is simple.

DON'T.[/QUOTE]I think you said it all and are spot on right.

[QUOTE=ItaloSamoa;2107158]The good / best women are...honest, trustworthy and are SO worth the time and effort...(In difficult situations they respond with complete class as well).

The last woman I was with, we'll call her MF, told me as I was kissing her good bye, that any time I call, she'd bump anyone to see me....full of class and trustworthy.
[/QUOTE]So, is MF one of the good ones then? Why would I schedule an appointment with someone who you're publicizing as willing to cancel on anyone? That's classy and trustworthy?

Definitely one of the good ones. Prioritize not cancel so maybe I should have worded differently and yes, she's very much both classy and trustworthy neither of which has anything to do with her preferences for who she'll see or prefers to see, IMO.

[QUOTE=TheWanderer;2114377]So, is MF one of the good ones then? Why would I schedule an appointment with someone who you're publicizing as willing to cancel on anyone? That's classy and trustworthy?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Member#4201;2106753]A girl has to be nuts to post her own face pics.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say she's nuts necessarily, although some nuts do come to mind, Krazy Karen for one. I think back over the years, at least from my perspective, when a provider posts face pics (or uses their real first name) it's usually do to naivety. And that inexperience leads some well meaning girls to be victimized by mongers with stalker tendencies. I can think of quite a few girls who started off showing face pics, used their real first name or their middle name as a first name and eventually had to stop providing because of stalker issues.

Then there are those who simply just don't care, especially on the low end of the spectrum. BP gals like Marissa and Mandy who live in the same house come to mind.

I second that. Well said Italo.

[QUOTE=Wanderer1;2108265]I think you said it all and are spot on right.[/QUOTE]

I have run into a couple of newby BP in calls recently that told me that they were running late, AFTER I WAS ALREADY THERE, so I just HAD to put in my two cents worth here (and then some. Sorry). And in some cases, they said they were already at the in call location when I first called them. In the future, I will do the following, and if more guys would do this or something similar, I'm sure at least a FEW of them reading this would figure out they better be on time or they are going to lose a lot of business, and more importantly, their reputation, gas and time (even tho I KNOW they don't really care one bit in most cases, and of course just change their posting name and get a new number / disposable phone);.

Make your date and ask if they are currently at the location. Tell them they need to stay there, or be on time if they aren't there, or you will leave. Tell them they need to text or call IMMEDIATELY if they have to "leave suddenly" or will be late. If YOU are on time, wait about 5 minutes and call / txt to see what the problem is, but LEAVE. If they say they are almost there, and don't have a legitimate good reason for being late which they can prove, tell them you will wait for them for a little while, while in reality you are driving home with no intention of turning back, other than the little head telling you to. After numerous more texts and calls from them saying they are "on their way", or asking if you are still there, keep telling them that you are there, but you are getting impatient. This makes them REALLY leave their real hotel / house / apt to go to their agreed upon temporary in call location. I believe that they figure if you have waited 20 or more minutes already, you must be REALLY hoping to see them, and will wait a little longer, so it is at THIS point that they ACTUALLY leave to meet you. Then, when they REALLY get there, which is usually like 30 or more minutes late, and they don't see your car, tell them you "JUST" left, and that waiting 30 or more minutes just wasn't in your plans, and that maybe next time they could be on time? Now you have wasted ALMOST as much of their time and gas as they wasted of yours. Plan on being black-listed from that provider most likely, however. But that is probably for the better, since this type of provider doesn't seem to possess that very basic distinction between humans and animals that allow them to learn from past mistakes. They probably would have been late on your second date too. Sorry, but I'm old school and believe that appointments are meant to be kept. Is it any wonder that most doctor offices now charge you if you don't give them 24 hour notice?

BTW, a GOOD reason why they are late would be one that they could prove somehow. If they say they had to take their baby / girlfriend / sister / pimp to the hospital, ask for a copy of some paperwork from the hospital. This will usually get them to hang up on you, since they now know that you have at least a tiny amount of brain matter in your big head, and that you are on to them. Many excuses (and believe me, I've heard them all) would be hard to prove, like they are stuck in traffic. But I've already caught one in a lie by saying they were on I43 in a traffic jam, when the live DOT camera at that location showed traffic was flowing just fine. Thank you, technology! Yeah, I got hung up on.

On a side note, and pardon me if I just haven't located it on this site yet (there is a LOT to read on this site! Does anyone know of a list somewhere on the web of "games that providers / escorts / prostitutes play"? I'd love to see how many I've heard, and add the ones I've heard that aren't listed! That would be an interesting / enjoyable list to see, IMHO. I've been hobbying quite a few years now, and unfortunately have run into more games / excuses than raincoats I've used since I was born! I've googled it, but got 4. 1 miliion hits, mostly of a real book you can buy called "Games Prostitutes Play". But I don't think I've ever read an entire book in my life yet, and I don't plan on starting any time soon. Came close on "50 Shades of Grey", but since I'm not into S&M, I got pretty bored after the first several chapters. VERY long book, as are the two sequels. Looks like it could be a good book though, I have to admit.

[QUOTE=MuffLovr;2171799]I have run into a couple of newby BP in calls recently that told me that they were running late, AFTER I WAS ALREADY THERE, so I just HAD to put in my two cents worth here (and then some. Sorry). And in some cases, they said they were already at the in call location when I first called them. In the future, I will do the following, and if more guys would do this or something similar, I'm sure at least a FEW of them reading this would figure out they better be on time or they are going to lose a lot of business, and more importantly, their reputation, gas and time (even tho I KNOW they don't really care one bit in most cases, and of course just change their posting name and get a new number / disposable phone);.

Make your date and ask if they are currently at the location. Tell them they need to stay there, or be on time if they aren't there, or you will leave. Tell them they need to text or call IMMEDIATELY if they have to "leave suddenly" or will be late. If YOU are on time, wait about 5 minutes and call / txt to see what the problem is, but LEAVE. If they say they are almost there, and don't have a legitimate good reason for being late which they can prove, tell them you will wait for them for a little while, while in reality you are driving home with no intention of turning back, other than the little head telling you to. After numerous more texts and calls from them saying they are "on their way", or asking if you are still there, keep telling them that you are there, but you are getting impatient. This makes them REALLY leave their real hotel / house / apt to go to their agreed upon temporary in call location. I believe that they figure if you have waited 20 or more minutes already, you must be REALLY hoping to see them, and will wait a little longer, so it is at THIS point that they ACTUALLY leave to meet you. Then, when they REALLY get there, which is usually like 30 or more minutes late, and they don't see your car, tell them you "JUST" left, and that waiting 30 or more minutes just wasn't in your plans, and that maybe next time they could be on time? Now you have wasted ALMOST as much of their time and gas as they wasted of yours. Plan on being black-listed from that provider most likely, however. But that is probably for the better, since this type of provider doesn't seem to possess that very basic distinction between humans and animals that allow them to learn from past mistakes. They probably would have been late on your second date too. Sorry, but I'm old school and believe that appointments are meant to be kept. Is it any wonder that most doctor offices now charge you if you don't give them 24 hour notice?

BTW, a GOOD reason why they are late would be one that they could prove somehow. If they say they had to take their baby / girlfriend / sister / pimp to the hospital, ask for a copy of some paperwork from the hospital. This will usually get them to hang up on you, since they now know that you have at least a tiny amount of brain matter in your big head, and that you are on to them. Many excuses (and believe me, I've heard them all) would be hard to prove, like they are stuck in traffic. But I've already caught one in a lie by saying they were on I43 in a traffic jam, when the live DOT camera at that location showed traffic was flowing just fine. Thank you, technology! Yeah, I got hung up on.

On a side note, and pardon me if I just haven't located it on this site yet (there is a LOT to read on this site! Does anyone know of a list somewhere on the web of "games that providers / escorts / prostitutes play"? I'd love to see how many I've heard, and add the ones I've heard that aren't listed! That would be an interesting / enjoyable list to see, IMHO. I've been hobbying quite a few years now, and unfortunately have run into more games / excuses than raincoats I've used since I was born! I've googled it, but got 4. 1 miliion hits, mostly of a real book you can buy called "Games Prostitutes Play". But I don't think I've ever read an entire book in my life yet, and I don't plan on starting any time soon. Came close on "50 Shades of Grey", but since I'm not into S&M, I got pretty bored after the first several chapters. VERY long book, as are the two sequels. Looks like it could be a good book though, I have to admit.[/QUOTE]Well I am the "asshole" of the lurker world by the sausage on here that want to review me instead of sticking to the topic because I call girls out and call hem what they should rightfully be called. The guys here don't like it and the girls don't like it. They all think I should treat them like delicate flowers. Fact is these girls should get treated just like they do us and when I do I am an asshole. Hahahhah. Don't care because these girls need to be put in check and I "enjoy" doing it. I agree with your rant. Any help needed for a great girl PM me.

[QUOTE=MuffLovr;2171799]I have run into a couple of newby BP in calls recently that told me that they were running late, AFTER I WAS ALREADY THERE, so I just HAD to put in my two cents worth here (and then some. Sorry). [/QUOTE]Wow! Understatement of the YEAR!! Is this 25-page post about any providers in particular?? You made the post long enough, but you didn't mention anyone! Who is this about??

[QUOTE=MuffLovr;2171799]I have run into a couple of newby BP in calls recently that told me that they were running late, AFTER I WAS ALREADY THERE, so I just HAD to put in my two cents worth here (and then some. Sorry)..[/QUOTE]What, you mean they might lie? These are women on drugs, rushing back and forth between dealer or pimp. They too might be waiting on their dealer to show up so they can give themselves a shot so they can gut out another session with one of us. Get your self a regular that you can build a rapport with. They don't want you rushing off but they need their fix before they can come see you. Maybe not a good idea to visit unknown BP providers. Let some other guy do that.

[QUOTE=CoochieEater;2106680]Damn guys, let's stop griping about fake pics. It's a fact of life. Learn to live with it. Wanting girls to stop using fake pics is like wanting summers in Wisconsin to stop being humid, winters to be warm, roads to be pothole free and politicians to be honest. Understand that sometimes (rarely) the girl is as hot or hotter than the fake pic. Hell, a girl could use a pic of herself 10 years and 25 lbs ago: it's not fake, but it's not accurate either...
Coochie (Don't give a fuck if the pics are fake) Eater.[/QUOTE][BLUE]Jackson and I are talking about this very thing for our new classified site. I'm of the opinion that we run a chrome search on pics in new ads, and deleting ads that have pics of pop stars. He says, fuck it, it's the guys responsibility to check and we should book the ad and take the money. I'd like to know what you guys think and have posted a poll.

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PS, enjoy the new thread, I posted the relaxed rules and some notes about it in the starter post if you want to look.[/BLUE]

[QUOTE=Admin2;2172179][BLUE]Jackson and I are talking about this very thing for our new classified site. I'm of the opinion that we run a chrome search on pics in new ads, and deleting ads that have pics of pop stars. He says, fuck it, it's the guys responsibility to check and we should book the ad and take the money. I'd like to know what you guys think and have posted a poll.

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PS, enjoy the new thread, I posted the relaxed rules and some notes about it in the starter post if you want to look.[/BLUE][/QUOTE]An image site I use has a small icon next to each posted picture. Clicking the icon opens an image search on that image. If you could add something similar to this new classified site it would make the process easier for those of us who care about image origins and potentially discourage fake picts without anything as draconian as auto-deletion.

[QUOTE=JackFlack;2172193]An image site I use has a small icon next to each posted picture. Clicking the icon opens an image search on that image. If you could add something similar to this new classified site it would make the process easier for those of us who care about image origins and potentially discourage fake picts without anything as draconian as auto-deletion.[/QUOTE]That sounds like a great site. How does one get this?

[QUOTE=JackFlack;2172193]An image site I use has a small icon next to each posted picture. Clicking the icon opens an image search on that image. If you could add something similar to this new classified site it would make the process easier for those of us who care about image origins and potentially discourage fake picts without anything as draconian as auto-deletion.[/QUOTE][BLUE]Please could you pass more more info about this site through PM? I'm all about giving you guys tools and letting you make your own choices.

Thanks in advance if you do.

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If they know their ad will not get posted if the pics used are fake, they'll more likely (though not always) use real ones.

It also gets the message out there that this group is not going to tolerate fakes.

[quote=admin;2172173][blue]ok, i'm not [b]always[/b] breaking up fights in milwaukee, but it happens enough so i'm giving you guys a fight thread. threads like this have relaxed argumentative rules. you can call a guy a cocksucker if you want. most of the rules are still in effect, no arrest reports, no personally identifying information, no threats of physical violence, n unfounded std reports, and as always no information about **** people.

this name is generic, most of the fight threads have names. cincy has the octagon, jacksonville the woodshed, in boston it's the massholes, if anybody has a suggestion for here throw it out there.

a2[/blue][/quote]my vote for the title of the fight thread is "wandering douchebags" and here's hoping this is my last post on this thread.