Sugarbabies?

Unfortunately I haven't found a site (Big or Small) that isn't like this.

[QUOTE=TheUndrew;1943125]Yeah, not impressed with SA. Sites that like are a giant waste of my time. I've seen several sites like this and they all do the free sign up and a fortune to do anything. Like AFF. They send out those fake messages and stuff to get you to enter a credit card. I'm happy to share more of my findings, but save your time.

Anyhow, I welcome PMs and messages about some type of sugar daddy type of relationship.[/QUOTE]

Anyone ever had success with AM? I tried it and invested $50. Early on I got a lot of messages and interest from a girl. Probably about a 6. She said she had an open relationship with her husband. I kind of chickened out and we never met. I was feeling good about the site so I put in another $150 I think. I tried the "Traveling Man" feature which to my surprise required separate fees. I got a hot lead while in Chicago from a girl who said she loved sex. She was about a 4. She chickened out this time. The messages really dropped off after that. I still have an account with tons of credits but never get any messages. I think they have a lot of shills on the site that send newbies messages so they invest more money.

I gave up because it just seemed like so much work to connect with a decent looking girl, arrange a meeting and try to find time to have an affair and cover all your tracks. Also worried about if the girl would try to wreck my home life.

If done right, the hobby is much easier, safer and has definite results.

[QUOTE=DavidNgrk;1944709]Anyone ever had success with AM?

I gave up because it just seemed like so much work to connect with a decent looking girl, arrange a meeting and try to find time to have an affair and cover all your tracks. Also worried about if the girl would try to wreck my home life.

If done right, the hobby is much easier, safer and has definite results.[/QUOTE]I'm on AM. Not much luck for me. They managed to get some funds out of me.

[QUOTE=DavidNgrk;1944709]
I still have an account with tons of credits but never get any messages. I think they have a lot of shills on the site that send newbies messages so they invest more money.[/QUOTE]The woman I've talked to said they get like 200 messages a day from guys, so it is mostly like a dating site where you have to stand out to get attention. As a guy on there with a photo and completed profile and such I've received about a half dozen messages, most of which are a one contact message saying "Want to chat?" So I agree... Kind of scammy. Of course AM makes a little money on each of those messages so great for them... But my opinion would be that it is not worth it.

[QUOTE=DavidNgrk;1944709]Anyone ever had success with AM? I tried it and invested $50. Early on I got a lot of messages and interest from a girl. Probably about a 6. She said she had an open relationship with her husband. I kind of chickened out and we never met. I was feeling good about the site so I put in another $150 I think. I tried the "Traveling Man" feature which to my surprise required separate fees. I got a hot lead while in Chicago from a girl who said she loved sex. She was about a 4. She chickened out this time. The messages really dropped off after that. I still have an account with tons of credits but never get any messages. I think they have a lot of shills on the site that send newbies messages so they invest more money.

I gave up because it just seemed like so much work to connect with a decent looking girl, arrange a meeting and try to find time to have an affair and cover all your tracks. Also worried about if the girl would try to wreck my home life.

If done right, the hobby is much easier, safer and has definite results.[/QUOTE]I had the same results when I tried Asley M. But I had a lot better results using [URL]Adultfriendfinder.com[/URL].

There is a huge thread on this on the Richmond, VA page, with contributors from all over the country. It is filled with good tips and some great stories. I personally have met and had success with 8-10 girls in the last 8-9 months, ranging from UTR girls to a couple of true first timers. I use SA exclusively but some guys swear by sugardaddy4 me. I have pretty much given up looking for girls anywhere else.

[QUOTE=Dsprdo;1944998]There is a huge thread on this on the Richmond, VA page, with contributors from all over the country. It is filled with good tips and some great stories. I personally have met and had success with 8-10 girls in the last 8-9 months, ranging from UTR girls to a couple of true first timers. I use SA exclusively but some guys swear by sugardaddy4 me. I have pretty much given up looking for girls anywhere else.[/QUOTE]As Dsprdo mentions, the thread here on usasg is stellar reading on the subject. If you wish to learn the trade of hunting and trapping Sugarbabies you might as well learn from some of the experts who write about their experiences right here on the site. Frankly whether you are interested in this craft or not it is some of the most entertaining reading one could have; well worth pouring a martini and begin on page one as it reads like a novel. There are now over 5200 posts to consume on the subject and you will certainly pick up a number of pointers there too as quite a few of these fellows have been practicing for years and share nearly every detail of their thrists..

You will find the thread here [URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-...[/URL] but I would suggest going to the bottom right hand side of the page and hitting last, this will take you to post #1... These older gents have become quite skilled at charming the pants off of these youngins regularly. What a country!!

[QUOTE=Varoom;1945031]As Dsprdo mentions, the thread here on usasg is stellar reading on the subject. If you wish to learn the trade of hunting and trapping Sugarbabies you might as well learn from some of the experts who write about their experiences right here on the site. [/QUOTE]It is certainly a good read. Completely killing my free time reading through this start to finish, but getting a lot of questions answered. And laughing quite a bit too.

I've been looking at and exploring the idea of being a sugar daddy for a little bit of time now. I've read many of the interesting and informative posts on the link below and I've learned quite a bit. I've determined that being a sugar daddy is for me. I'm a business owner and have a little money. Turns out that it makes me quite the sugar daddy.

With that said my goal has been to find the perfect combination of someone who shares and interest in business AND someone who is okay with something physical. I've tried the escort thing and I have to say it left me wanting something more. This seems to do the trick.

As I mentioned below, I've tried Ashley Mad, and it was a waste of money. Between USASG and checking things out on sites like Seeking Arrangements it appears that being an SD has a promising future.

Just thought I would share.

SD4 M (Sugar Daddy for Me), on the other hand, seems to be dying, at least in the Cincinnati area. Moreover, SD4 M wouldn't stop processing my credit card, so I stopped using them altogether.

Seeking Arrangement is more above-board, and you can end your membership at any time (no auto billing). Seeking Arrangement also does a good job of weeding out fake profiles. The atmosphere there is almost like a conventional dating site.

The sugar daddy scene is recommended if you prefer the higher end ladies here (Dawn, Shelly, Molly, EE), and would like to take your hobbying to the "next level". I have seen around a dozen UTRs and first-timers from the site over the past 3 years.

I have usually paid $200 per encounter (occasionally $300 when the lady had to travel a long distance to me).

SA is *not* a good option for those of you who are into $40 car dates with crack-addicted SWs (and I would prefer you keep the SW cooties to yourself, anyway).

You will need time and a considerable amount of patience. Since the sugar daddy scene has become widely publicized, SA has attracted a lot of women who have inflated expectations. Some seem to see it as a Match or E-Harmony where they can meet millionaires. LOL.

But there definitely are some gems who are willing to play for a moderate amount of cash. I have had the most luck with working-class single moms of various ages, and students, aged 21 to 25. College-educated career women aged 25 to 35, not so much: They are the ones who regard the site as "Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire?" For those of you who like older women, the site *does* have a few low-volume, UTR MILFs who play.

I want to emphasize that this is not like calling up an escort service and having a woman knock on your door an hour later. You have to be willing to put some time and effort in, and even deal with rejection. But the sugar daddy scene *is* real, and you will meet women on SA who simply aren't going to show up on BP, or even here.

[QUOTE=ToddCincy;1957770]
Seeking Arrangement is more above-board, and you can end your membership at any time (no auto billing). Seeking Arrangement also does a good job of weeding out fake profiles. The atmosphere there is almost like a conventional dating site.

I want to emphasize that this is not like calling up an escort service and having a woman knock on your door an hour later. You have to be willing to put some time and effort in, and even deal with rejection. But the sugar daddy scene *is* real, and you will meet women on SA who simply aren't going to show up on BP, or even here.[/QUOTE]I fully agree here and quite enjoy the dynamics there.

I have met some real gems there.

[QUOTE=DavidNgrk;1944709]Anyone ever had success with AM? I tried it and invested $50. Early on I got a lot of messages and interest from a girl. Probably about a 6. She said she had an open relationship with her husband. I kind of chickened out and we never met. I was feeling good about the site so I put in another $150 I think. I tried the "Traveling Man" feature which to my surprise required separate fees. I got a hot lead while in Chicago from a girl who said she loved sex. She was about a 4. She chickened out this time. The messages really dropped off after that. I still have an account with tons of credits but never get any messages. I think they have a lot of shills on the site that send newbies messages so they invest more money.

I gave up because it just seemed like so much work to connect with a decent looking girl, arrange a meeting and try to find time to have an affair and cover all your tracks. Also worried about if the girl would try to wreck my home life.

If done right, the hobby is much easier, safer and has definite results.[/QUOTE]I've been on a AM for 6-7 months and have many great encounters with married and attached ladies. From chat to FS. I had up to 16 ladies going at one time, seeing 2-3 a week all for the price of a room. It's all in your approach on AM. Calm and Cool gets you in. I still have 5 I'm playing with.

A recent interview on 700 WLW had an involved discussion of how much money that site is making.

Enough so where there is a very likely chance it will have its own stock index. The statistics were amazing in the world of sex and how men and women are working it between the legs.

A few stats:

Women have as many as 4 affairs a year. (those in the game).

Men have on average 5-6 in the same time frame.

Those who 'do' the deed end up mostly with those who are less attractive than their current partner.

Average span of time spent in the affair; 3-4 months, average.

Of course some renegades could skew those results. Whether better looking or otherwise. Indirectly I have 3 women that that don't come with $ signs that the arrangement is for good times. When one falls out of the rotation I usually find one to enter back into it, keeps it interesting. It's like shooting fish out of a barrel on facebook if you know what you're doing, understanding the friend zone.

So many women out there in relationships where the guy just isn't providing the bedroom romantics. In knowing this, and without thinking completely with your cock you can get somewhere just bringing your position up carefully from a necessity point of view.

Of course everyone has their game, some better than others. I've found that no two women are the same but two women in the same room is even better.

I have noticed recently that AM switched owners and now profiles with pics get way more attention and show up in the searches more often then a non-pic profile. When I have my pic up I get more looks. I have noticed also more SB on there looking for their SD.

I will offer my experience since venturing into the SB scene. Details will follow, but in general if you like the flakiness and delays of a $50/ hhr streetscort but prefer to pay for at high end escort rates, then a Sugar baby is for you!

Details on my meetings:

SB #1 - Prompt, friendly. No investment besides dinner. However, much heavier and only 4 ft tall. Pass.

SB #2 - Best so far. $50+dinner on first meet. Then we started making out and she gave me a HJ without me asking. Unfortunately, she never took another call of mine.

SB #3- Lunch. She wanted $400 (per meet. Probably a 5-6 on the scale. Whatever.

SB #4- Never can meet. Always claimed to be "15 minutes away." Total flake. I gave up trying to meet after 4 false starts.

SB #5 - Lots of rules, but she really has a decent job and a kid. Looks like we have come to agree on a ppm of $100, so wish me luck.

All in all, a lot of work and little return.

[QUOTE=Hairy2;2072688]
SB #2 - Best so far. $50+dinner on first meet. Then we started making out and she gave me a HJ without me asking. Unfortunately, she never took another call of mine.
[/QUOTE]That is all some want, or they don't dare to take the next step.