Streetwalker Reports

[QUOTE=VincentGambini;5156367] Even if the evidence is insufficient for a conviction or even a prosecution, you're still going through the hassle of an arrest, posting bond and having your info all over the internet. To be clear, I'm not saying TO is incorrect, I'm merely suggesting that those suggestions carry more risk than just bailing and moving onto the next potential SW. Just my two cents![/QUOTE]I narrowly avoided a sting a few months back, and I decided that it was safer to have a simple cast-iron rule of any discussion started through an open window is a red flag, so I politely make my excuses and drive on. No exceptions. Pretty much everyone knows the rules. In theory. But when you're in that situation it's not as easy as you think it will be. The situation unfolds quickly and the UC will not directly ask you what you want or how much you want to pay. As I recall the opening question was "do you have somewhere to go near here". Most people will probably say yes to see what they come back with. No harm in seeing what's on offer, right? But now you're in conversation (probably recorded) and it's harder to analyze all the implications of everything you say in real time as the dialog continues.

Yes, it sounds dumb but I'm sure all the gents whose photos were given to the press thought that they were just going to start with some innocent banter and to gauge things as they progress. But they ended up saying enough that they got arrested, which is punishment enough.

My feeling is that the minimum level of security is to only start a discussion once you're a block away driving down the road. I don't think a female UC would take that kind of risk. A male, maybe. As I recall the Cryin' Beggar got busted after they were on the road well away from the pick up.

The main thing is to decide where the line is and don't make exceptions in the hope that you'll recover the situation if it starts going bad.

[QUOTE=PJ001;5156469]I narrowly avoided a sting a few months back, and I decided that it was safer to have a simple cast-iron rule of any discussion started through an open window is a red flag, so I politely make my excuses and drive on. No exceptions. Pretty much everyone knows the rules. In theory. But when you're in that situation it's not as easy as you think it will be. The situation unfolds quickly and the UC will not directly ask you what you want or how much you want to pay. As I recall the opening question was "do you have somewhere to go near here". Most people will probably say yes to see what they come back with. No harm in seeing what's on offer, right? But now you're in conversation (probably recorded) and it's harder to analyze all the implications of everything you say in real time as the dialog continues.

Yes, it sounds dumb but I'm sure all the gents whose photos were given to the press thought that they were just going to start with some innocent banter and to gauge things as they progress. But they ended up saying enough that they got arrested, which is punishment enough.

My feeling is that the minimum level of security is to only start a discussion once you're a block away driving down the road. I don't think a female UC would take that kind of risk. A male, maybe. As I recall the Cryin' Beggar got busted after they were on the road well away from the pick up.

The main thing is to decide where the line is and don't make exceptions in the hope that you'll recover the situation if it starts going bad.[/QUOTE]First thing I'll say is JoJo the Crying Beggar needed to be hauled off and put in her place. LOL.

My experience in Orlando with a John sting was early on in my mongering days in Orlando and luckily I had read enough of the Forum to make the right call on the spot. A better-than-should-be woman was out on 25th on the WEST side of Nashville (well off the normal path) and I cruised her by on Nashville twice. On the second pass, she made a "waving me over" motion. I made a UTurn and approached her with my window down. She was clean, had nice clothes, she had on a sleeveless top and had bigger than you'd expect guns (muscled arms). Her hair was nice but she appeared to have on an Kevlar vest under her clothes which I found most odd. I didn't take the time to count her teeth or have her do a 23 & me Genealogy test, but I also noticed she wasn't moving towards the passenger door but to the drivers door.

As she approached, I processed all the data in my mind in seconds. Something was amiss. She said hey what's up? And What do you want? Without batting an eye I said to her that I didn't want anything, that "you motioned me over from afar and I thought you were in trouble or something so I came over to check on you since this was a bad area to be hanging out in. " All she said back was "MOVE ON!" LOL.

I then saw several marked and unmarked cars parked over towards Michigan a few blocks away just waiting for the trap to snap. From that moment on, I never even thought of negotiation outside the car UNLESS I was 100% positive of the girl. If a girl makes suggestions from outside the car, I say no thanks, that's not why I am here and I move on. I may have missed some good ones over the years by moving on, but I've kept my nose clean!

Grain 56.

[QUOTE=PJ001;5156469]I narrowly avoided a sting a few months back, and I decided that it was safer to have a simple cast-iron rule of any discussion started through an open window is a red flag, so I politely make my excuses and drive on. No exceptions. Pretty much everyone knows the rules. In theory. But when you're in that situation it's not as easy as you think it will be. The situation unfolds quickly and the UC will not directly ask you what you want or how much you want to pay. As I recall the opening question was "do you have somewhere to go near here". Most people will probably say yes to see what they come back with. No harm in seeing what's on offer, right? But now you're in conversation (probably recorded) and it's harder to analyze all the implications of everything you say in real time as the dialog continues.

Yes, it sounds dumb but I'm sure all the gents whose photos were given to the press thought that they were just going to start with some innocent banter and to gauge things as they progress. But they ended up saying enough that they got arrested, which is punishment enough.

My feeling is that the minimum level of security is to only start a discussion once you're a block away driving down the road. I don't think a female UC would take that kind of risk. A male, maybe. As I recall the Cryin' Beggar got busted after they were on the road well away from the pick up.

The main thing is to decide where the line is and don't make exceptions in the hope that you'll recover the situation if it starts going bad.[/QUOTE]This is why I've gotten into the habit of simply asking for a name and number for later use.

I called Danni and arranged for an afternoon dream with her. She had me pick her up and drop her off near the FL Mall. As usual, Danni was awesome. She says that she's going to "detox," any day now.

Anyhow, we saw over a dozen different girls out today. Probably 9 WSW's, 2 HSW's and a couple of BSW's. Pretty much all of them were decent-looking and scroggable. There was one taller, thin, blond that was very pretty. Even Danni exclaimed: "that girl is so pretty. I don't know her but I'd like to. ".

Danni did not recognize even one single girl that was out. That must mean that there's some new talent on the Trail. Most all of the action was near the Mall. Good luck out there, guys.

[QUOTE=TrollingObt;5155030]I agree with playing it safe but there are other things you can do. Let her know you suspect that she's a cop.

Check her teeth. Cops have dental plans, hookers don't.

Have her show you her arms. Most walkers have needle marks, cops don't.

Tell her you want to see the room key.

Tell her you only want to take pictures. That's 100% legal. When she gets in the car you can begin the renegotiation.

Tell her she's got nice tits and say you'd like a better look at them. See if she'll flash them to set you at ease. That one line alone has let me feel up many girls that I wasn't really planning on picking up.

Ask if she has any arrests and look her up to verify it.

Most importantly, check the pics on the boards and know who the girls are before going out. You can avoid so many nightmares with this one suggestion.

I rarely go near the trail any longer, but when I did, I had an audio recorder going if I approached someone I didn't know. Cops will lie. There's a reason they don't record stings.[/QUOTE]In my opinion I would just move on, there is no need for any hassles, there is plenty of tail on the trail. One red flag is enough to move on. Even if she is legit, you are just enabling the hassle.

[QUOTE=Grain56;5156666]First thing I'll say is JoJo the Crying Beggar needed to be hauled off and put in her place. LOL.

My experience in Orlando with a John sting was early on in my mongering days in Orlando and luckily I had read enough of the Forum to make the right call on the spot. A better-than-should-be woman was out on 25th on the WEST side of Nashville (well off the normal path) and I cruised her by on Nashville twice. On the second pass, she made a "waving me over" motion. I made a UTurn and approached her with my window down. She was clean, had nice clothes, she had on a sleeveless top and had bigger than you'd expect guns (muscled arms). Her hair was nice but she appeared to have on an Kevlar vest under her clothes which I found most odd. I didn't take the time to count her teeth or have her do a 23 & me Genealogy test, but I also noticed she wasn't moving towards the passenger door but to the drivers door.

As she approached, I processed all the data in my mind in seconds. Something was amiss. She said hey what's up? And What do you want? Without batting an eye I said to her that I didn't want anything, that "you motioned me over from afar and I thought you were in trouble or something so I came over to check on you since this was a bad area to be hanging out in. " All she said back was "MOVE ON!" LOL.

I then saw several marked and unmarked cars parked over towards Michigan a few blocks away just waiting for the trap to snap. From that moment on, I never even thought of negotiation outside the car UNLESS I was 100% positive of the girl. If a girl makes suggestions from outside the car, I say no thanks, that's not why I am here and I move on. I may have missed some good ones over the years by moving on, but I've kept my nose clean!

Grain 56.[/QUOTE]I've been at this for decades and have never been busted or come close because the first red flag is a no go and I move on. I tell her to "hop in and I will give you a lift. " If she refuses I drive on. It is too risky for the undercover to be in the car. If she asks "Where are you going?" I'll mention somewhere out of the current jurisdiction. If she is undercover she will not have any authority. Anyone that does not go along with the game is not playing the game. I miss a few chances but I don't lose the game.

Saw that too Vino. Was at Wawa around 8 pm and there was hounion. I was waiting there for Brooke to get back from meeting her kid, and normally don't pickup SWs. But saw ths cut white brunette shpuld length hair in a long coat walking with a taller BSW. She had a cute smile as well. Anyone know her name?

[QUOTE=Vino7373;5156783]

Anyhow, we saw over a dozen different girls out today. Probably 9 WSW's, 2 HSW's and a couple of BSW's. Pretty much all of them were decent-looking and scroggable. There was one taller, thin, blond that was very pretty. Even Danni exclaimed: "that girl is so pretty. I don't know her but I'd like to. ".[/QUOTE]

So looks like bunny and barbie are advertising together? Who are the other ladies with them?

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/orlando/57659990/[/URL]#.

[QUOTE=Enzo2018;5157846]So looks like bunny and barbie are advertising together? Who are the other ladies with them?

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/orlando/57659990/[/URL]#.[/QUOTE]Brooke is the 3rd girl. She is off at rehab / detox though. Just left the other day.

[QUOTE=Enzo2018;5157846]So looks like bunny and barbie are advertising together? Who are the other ladies with them?

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/orlando/57659990/[/URL]#.[/QUOTE]Nevermind, found out my answer on the UTR thread.

[QUOTE=PapiCholo;5157855]Brooke is the 3rd girl. She is off at rehab / detox though. Just left the other day.[/QUOTE]Thank you.

[QUOTE=ChugALug;5155042]Glad you had some fun for a Jack! Very informative post. NOT. OBT runs about 400 miles? I'm thinking you might be from Detroit? If so that's like saying you found something on Woodward.

Was it a WSW, BSW, HSW? Assuming it was a female, Tall, short, fat, skinny, big tits, fat pussy? Something. Maybe even a name? Lmfao.

When? Approx what time of day or night? Come on you guys. Where Who When?

Rant over.

Chug.[/QUOTE]Well damn. WSW, off Nashville or whatever the cut is off of OBT! She was about 5'4 slim, long hair, 439 credit score, favorite color was red or blue. She is a Taurus, wanted to be a teacher when she was kid but got stranding on a island and learned how to give bjs by practising on bamboo!

Past week or so I have seen a short haired white thick girl behind Wendy's on Cons. Anyone have a word on her? Every time I see her I am always heading to work.

[QUOTE=Enzo2018;5157846]So looks like bunny and barbie are advertising together? Who are the other ladies with them?

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/orlando/57659990/[/URL]#.[/QUOTE]Dude, all of those videos and pictures are Karrey aka Bunny Smith. She's got a porn vid circulating on the web of her getting banged in the back of some store: [URL]https://vivud.com/video/211417/?sid=12078[/URL][blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]She's a real head case. Just had a baby about 10 months ago and probably gave it up for adoption. I would recommend staying away for this one unless you want to lose your sanity.

PHFJ Out!

[QUOTE=HeyFlint;5157790]Saw that too Vino. Was at Wawa around 8 pm and there was hounion. I was waiting there for Brooke to get back from meeting her kid, and normally don't pickup SWs. But saw ths cut white brunette shpuld length hair in a long coat walking with a taller BSW. She had a cute smile as well. Anyone know her name?[/QUOTE]That was probably the Latin girl that posts as Lola. Most likely had on 3 inch heels.

PHFJ Out!