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If there's anything I learned, it's that guys here exaggerate about their findings too, so I would take much of what you read with a grain of salt outside of a few notable posters. Or at least verify yourself.
Also everyone's standards are different to where I'd have to be be paid myself to see or touch some of the people I've seen on SA (whether that's through poor looks or their shitty personality). However, like the saying goes, one man's trash is another man's treasure and whatnot.
With a short basic not-weird-sounding text profile and a modest net worth / salary.
Inbox is up to 30+ that have favorited me and about 10 unread emails.
How many of these are scams?
If I pay that ridiculously high $300 / month subscription what are some of less obvious scams to watch out for?
Do most of the women hide 50 lbs of lard and 10+ years of aging in their profile pics like most other dating sites?
[QUOTE=HelloThar;6795938]If there's anything I learned, it's that guys here exaggerate about their findings too, so I would take much of what you read with a grain of salt outside of a few notable posters....[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SkeletonKey6;6796928]With a short basic not-weird-sounding text profile and a modest net worth / salary.
Inbox is up to 30+ that have favorited me and about 10 unread emails.
How many of these are scams?
If I pay that ridiculously high $300 / month subscription what are some of less obvious scams to watch out for?
Do most of the women hide 50 lbs of lard and 10+ years of aging in their profile pics like most other dating sites?[/QUOTE]Probably 75% will be scam and spending $300 for Diamond isn't even worth it. Most people on their are lying about their life and income anyhow.
[QUOTE=SkeletonKey6;6796928]With a short basic not-weird-sounding text profile and a modest net worth / salary.
Inbox is up to 30+ that have favorited me and about 10 unread emails.
How many of these are scams?
If I pay that ridiculously high $300 / month subscription what are some of less obvious scams to watch out for?
Do most of the women hide 50 lbs of lard and 10+ years of aging in their profile pics like most other dating sites?[/QUOTE]Favorites are near useless unless they live near you and are obviously not a fake account (you can usually tell by name as they're similar). I wish they let you ignore views / favorites if they're X miles away from you. 90% of stuff on SA is scams / pic sellers / etc.
Diamond tier is pointless, it's just a badge. You can get 33% off premium with codes found in this forum.
Catfish definitely exist, especially the aging. You can see who is verified, but the only real way to check is to ask someone nicely for a hard to fake selfie or something. Another good metric is that their worst profile picture is how they are AT BEST.
[QUOTE=HelloThar;6797044]Favorites are near useless unless they live near you and are obviously not a fake account (you can usually tell by name as they're similar). I wish they let you ignore views / favorites if they're X miles away from you. 90% of stuff on SA is scams / pic sellers / etc.
Diamond tier is pointless, it's just a badge. You can get 33% off premium with codes found in this forum.
Catfish definitely exist, especially the aging. You can see who is verified, but the only real way to check is to ask someone nicely for a hard to fake selfie or something. Another good metric is that their worst profile picture is how they are AT BEST.[/QUOTE]Helpful stuff. I too just joined for the hell of it. Need to find a discount code as it's worth the $70 ish bucks to just dick around a bit. Definitely focusing on the non-model types and older ladies that aren't just college kids hoping for a shopping spree.
Anyone recognize this girl?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0b682864-5c2b-4502-9c91-3628dbe144f7[/URL]
I swear she looks exactly like a direct report of mine at an old job and good god I would give a lot to you know. Stuff. Messaged her but she hasn't logged on in over a month. Praying to gods she's elsewhere like fetlife or the boards.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e9416ba4-3e3c-4d11-a08c-bbb3a7401b62[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b681457d-c77d-488e-b455-ff7c6821d207[/URL]
[QUOTE=SkeletonKey6;6796928]...
How many of these are scams?
If I pay that ridiculously high $300 / month subscription what are some of less obvious scams to watch out for?
Do most of the women hide 50 lbs of lard and 10+ years of aging in their profile pics like most other dating sites?[/QUOTE]Yes, there are a lot of scams and bad people on those sites.
Right off the bat, if someone favorites me or sends me a message without viewing my profile that is really suspicious and kind of weird.
Second, the photos. If the photos are obviously not from around here, and especially if they are from someplace like Italy or Greece give it all a miss. At best 99% of the time they will have unrealistic expectations and be obnoxiously entitled.
If they are either really evasive about giving you a phone number or paradoxically, give you a phone number in their first couple of messages, that is a scammy smell.
Once you are switched off of messaging on the site and in contact via phone you can both exchange photos and at that point you get a clue what she really will look like.
Girls who switch cities around are to be avoided.
If you discover they have lied to you early on just remember that is only the first lie and will never be the only or last one.
Use tineye to figure out where else their photos have been. That can help you find fakes and also can help you figure out if she is just a regular working girl looking to overcharge you.
If so, I think I will stick to AMPs.
[QUOTE=Johnnieb33;6797497]This one wanted 500 per visit [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b681457d-c77d-488e-b455-ff7c6821d207[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;6797519]Yes, there are a lot of scams and bad people on those sites.
Right off the bat, if someone favorites me or sends me a message without viewing my profile that is really suspicious and kind of weird.
Second, the photos. If the photos are obviously not from around here, and especially if they are from someplace like Italy or Greece give it all a miss. At best 99% of the time they will have unrealistic expectations and be obnoxiously entitled.
If they are either really evasive about giving you a phone number or paradoxically, give you a phone number in their first couple of messages, that is a scammy smell.
Once you are switched off of messaging on the site and in contact via phone you can both exchange photos and at that point you get a clue what she really will look like.
Girls who switch cities around are to be avoided.
If you discover they have lied to you early on just remember that is only the first lie and will never be the only or last one.
Use tineye to figure out where else their photos have been. That can help you find fakes and also can help you figure out if she is just a regular working girl looking to overcharge you.[/QUOTE]Great advice. Thanks for sharing, this should get pinned to the top of the forum.
[QUOTE=EddyWhtwtr;6797796]Great advice. Thanks for sharing, this should get pinned to the top of the forum.[/QUOTE]Excellent list of shit to watch out for, not just in Seeking, but all dating apps.
[QUOTE=SkeletonKey6;6797675]If so, I think I will stick to AMPs.[/QUOTE]Honestly you have to be willing to go more for the GND look as you're trying to get a little more of a connection while hoping for multiple hours of fun.
Not to mention Seattle doesn't have the best looking women, and if they are available, they likely get taken quickly or have GPS due to numbers skewed in their favor.
You have to invest a ton of time into SA and the payoff can fluctuate wildly, especially when compared to the other board where you can just text someone up any given day.
A couple of ones that seemed promising at first but went downhill after switching to text. Both over 30, not bad looking, well spoken and both a little delusional.
This one wanted "at least $600 ppm".
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1b194dd8-9036-4f29-9b75-59a40d936213[/URL]
This one wanted $750 ppm.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/af64aa73-ffa2-418f-8efc-dd0232ddade8[/URL]
[QUOTE=Bronco62;6798215]A couple of ones that seemed promising at first but went downhill after switching to text. Both over 30, not bad looking, well spoken and both a little delusional.
This one wanted "at least $600 ppm".
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1b194dd8-9036-4f29-9b75-59a40d936213[/URL]
This one wanted $750 ppm.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/af64aa73-ffa2-418f-8efc-dd0232ddade8[/URL][/QUOTE]Oof, was chatting with one of these. Thanks for saving me the trouble. I've been holding off lately on discussing ppm early, but maybe I should go back to that to avoid wasting time.
A lot of these women get random offers so their ppm levels adjust accordingly, but it's still ridiculous. You might as well get someone you know is good on the other board, go for 2 hours, and call it a day at these rates. You wouldn't have to text for days either.
[QUOTE=Johnnieb33;6797497][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b681457d-c77d-488e-b455-ff7c6821d207[/URL][/QUOTE]I saw her. She's expensive but she's very sexy. Bbfscip.
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;6797519]Yes, there are a lot of scams and bad people on those sites.
Right off the bat, if someone favorites me or sends me a message without viewing my profile that is really suspicious and kind of weird.
Second, the photos. If the photos are obviously not from around here, and especially if they are from someplace like Italy or Greece give it all a miss. At best 99% of the time they will have unrealistic expectations and be obnoxiously entitled.
If they are either really evasive about giving you a phone number or paradoxically, give you a phone number in their first couple of messages, that is a scammy smell.
Once you are switched off of messaging on the site and in contact via phone you can both exchange photos and at that point you get a clue what she really will look like.
Girls who switch cities around are to be avoided.
If you discover they have lied to you early on just remember that is only the first lie and will never be the only or last one.
Use tineye to figure out where else their photos have been. That can help you find fakes and also can help you figure out if she is just a regular working girl looking to overcharge you.[/QUOTE]I'd upvote you if I could. Been messaging a few girls and this one and I had a lot of back and forth.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/178f2a16-acd8-43e3-a036-63c585b69552[/URL]
Long story short, she was able to produce a selfie of her with one of my requests but then the next time after a few exchanges of pics we were going to meet up. Gave me an address to a central apartment but when I asked for another selfie it was a terrrible photoshop of the first one. Like. Idiotically obvious. Wouldn't give me any other attempt or request just said they were totally different.
Bummer. The vids and pics I got were so damn hot. Would have loved to actually meet this chick.
[QUOTE=HelloThar;6798271]Oof, was chatting with one of these. Thanks for saving me the trouble. I've been holding off lately on discussing ppm early, but maybe I should go back to that to avoid wasting time.
A lot of these women get random offers so their ppm levels adjust accordingly, but it's still ridiculous. You might as well get someone you know is good on the other board, go for 2 hours, and call it a day at these rates. You wouldn't have to text for days either.[/QUOTE]I honestly think a lot of these girls / women are quoting high numbers to see what sticks. They often asking almost a question. "600?" And try to see if the man will bite. None, and I do mean none of these woman are worth that much.
I talked to one last night who is cool and she said "how do you benefit a woman who is willing to be attentive to you when your needs need fulfillment?" I told her to turn that question around. How does any woman benefit me for helping with my hard earned money. I'm the one who has to work 40+ hours a week to get paid. In turn, most of these women have to only spend one hour with any given person from the site. There is definitely more loss on the male's side when it comes to equity in these arrangements.
Now I'm not calling to be cheap but I'm certainly calling to be real in the perceived value of the pussy LOL it ain't $600/ pop.
So-Crates.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8ab7d2bb-b820-47d0-9c9e-6944891adb5e[/URL]
Talked to this one on Friday night. Got her number which was a 636 area code. I'm originally from the St. Louis, MO area so I recognized it immediately and she said she was from that area. Come to think about it, I recognize the profile from the STL-SA area.
She seemed cool and complained about some guy stiffing her on pics she sent him. She said I was so cool she sent the pics to me just because. Benign pics (scantily clad) but nothing to get excited about. Anyway, we were going on and on. Never got into the "how much talk". She said she just moved to Washington from Missouri a couple weeks ago and is starting a job but is struggling with COL.
At one point she claimed she was trying to scrounge up change to get something to eat so she was Foor Dashing or Uber Eats-ing, I guess. It was about 9 pm and she was complaining that she was $15 short in a way to suggest she needed help but didn't outright ask. I played dumb then she came out and just asked if I could send her $20. I told her no help until we've actually met up already. She begged that she would give me address and then give apartment number once I sent the money. Haha, good one. I knew then.
Threw that yoke off!
So-Crates.
[QUOTE=CornholeBi;6798349]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/178f2a16-acd8-43e3-a036-63c585b69552[/URL]
...when I asked for another selfie it was a terrible photoshop of the first one. Like. Idiotically obvious...
...The VIDS and pics I got were so damn hot. [/QUOTE]If these hoes have gotten tech savvy enough to create deep fake VIDS of themselves I would give the Seeking site a hard pass.
[QUOTE=SocratesRvng;6798354]... In turn, most of these women have to only spend one hour with any given person from the site. There is definitely more loss on the male's side when it comes to equity in these arrangements.
[/QUOTE]I'm pretty clear with my expectations with these girls (and that is ALWAYS a good idea) and I rarely go for girls who just want to meet up for an hour. My expectations are that we spend three or four hours together, minimum. That might include dinner or drinks but it might also be a sweaty fuckfest where we go for seconds and thirds and even fourths. That's what I consider fair for 400 to 500. Exceptionally skilled girls or girls with very generous boundaries might be able to ask for more and I might oblige them.
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;6798535]I'm pretty clear with my expectations with these girls (and that is ALWAYS a good idea) and I rarely go for girls who just want to meet up for an hour. My expectations are that we spend three or four hours together, minimum. That might include dinner or drinks but it might also be a sweaty fuckfest where we go for seconds and thirds and even fourths. That's what I consider fair for 400 to 500. Exceptionally skilled girls or girls with very generous boundaries might be able to ask for more and I might oblige them.[/QUOTE]As you should be! I more referring to the ones who are looking to charge like a pro where it's based on 1 hook up and go. Those ladies can kick rocks!
[QUOTE=CornholeBi;6798349]I'd upvote you if I could. Been messaging a few girls and this one and I had a lot of back and forth.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/178f2a16-acd8-43e3-a036-63c585b69552[/URL]
Long story short, she was able to produce a selfie of her with one of my requests but then the next time after a few exchanges of pics we were going to meet up. Gave me an address to a central apartment but when I asked for another selfie it was a terrrible photoshop of the first one. Like. Idiotically obvious. Wouldn't give me any other attempt or request just said they were totally different.
Bummer. The vids and pics I got were so damn hot. Would have loved to actually meet this chick.[/QUOTE]No wonder this one was a scammer, she calls out to you to support her wish list in her title! Add girls highlighting their wishlist ("if you really want to make yourself stand out.") to the avoid. Also she wants a guy "good at spoiling". Guys just look right through these red flags over some cute (fake) pics.
[QUOTE=BugManLet;6798717]No wonder this one was a scammer, she calls out to you to support her wish list in her title! Add girls highlighting their wishlist ("if you really want to make yourself stand out.") to the avoid. Also she wants a guy "good at spoiling". Guys just look right through these red flags over some cute (fake) pics.[/QUOTE]I would filter out every SA chick who bothered to make a wishlist if I could. I don't mind gifts in person, but not when randomly asked, or worse yet, when you haven't met before. Major red flag for sure.
And SA is full of these types. It makes you really appreciate the rare sweet girls who you really do want to spoil without them asking. A lot of these women just don't know what they're doing or are too jaded to care.
Good reminder never to pay anything before meeting. Guarantee they will ghost you right afterwards and move onto the next mark.
Yeah, Wish Lists are a clear warning sign that you should stay away.
Had a weird one on a related note a few months ago. She wouldn't meet in public and because she had severe anxiety (okay.) she could only meet in private for 45 minutes. I wished her luck and gav her a hard pass. A few weeks later she texted me wanting me to buy her a $3000 pair of shoes and saying her anxiety was better and we could meet for longer. Okay, still a hard pass.
If they want to just meet for a short period of time it is a better use of your whoring dollar to just go to an AMP or AAMP. It costs you less and gets the job done. Yeah, you might get a granny but she probably won't be enormously fat, which is a very real risk with any of the girls on a Sugar site. So it comes out about the same.
[QUOTE=Spacehog;6795031][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e5e8de7e-5f98-4497-a4fc-83a954e58467[/URL]
Has anybody seen Miss-Kay? She looks like a pro but I can't find her anywhere.[/QUOTE]Mm the brakes have been beat off that one. Only 33 sheesh. Don't know about being a pro. Lot of pros on SA.
[QUOTE=PriceIsRight39;6799517]Mm the brakes have been beat off that one. Only 33 sheesh. Don't know about being a pro. Lot of pros on SA.[/QUOTE]Would definitely skip that one, bio is entitled, is worn out, has children. Pics are likely not even accurate.
[QUOTE=HelloThar;6799819]Would definitely skip that one, bio is entitled, is worn out, has children. Pics are likely not even accurate.[/QUOTE]There are a few actual reports here. Pictures out of date as she is overweight now, foul odors, and even a Rob report.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cff53021-3f8c-4435-8c70-13c3d76a8ab7[/URL]
Picture seller.
[QUOTE=Bronco62;6798215]A couple of ones that seemed promising at first but went downhill after switching to text. Both over 30, not bad looking, well spoken and both a little delusional.
This one wanted "at least $600 ppm".
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1b194dd8-9036-4f29-9b75-59a40d936213[/URL]
This one wanted $750 ppm.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/af64aa73-ffa2-418f-8efc-dd0232ddade8[/URL][/QUOTE]I must not be as charismatic. Out of curiosity I finished texting the second one and she wanted 1000 ppm. LOL.
What are these women on and where can I get some myself. You might as well get someone from the other board who knows what she's doing stay overnight or a threesome at that rate. Not to mention she's 30+ years old.
Think that's the highest I've seen yet.
[QUOTE=HelloThar;6798879]I would filter out every SA chick who bothered to make a wishlist if I could. I don't mind gifts in person, but not when randomly asked, or worse yet, when you haven't met before. Major red flag for sure.[/QUOTE]It depends on the profile. I find it can give insight into the girl. If all she wants is 1000 handbags, well, of course. What if it is all sex toys?
I also look carefully at all who say 'platonic. ' IK most of you guys block those immediately. Many who say platonic are just trying to avoid the messages that solicit them. And even some of those have sex toys on their wish lists. LOL.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6807705]...
I also look carefully at all who say 'platonic. ' IK most of you guys block those immediately. Many who say platonic are just trying to avoid the messages that solicit them. And even some of those have sex toys on their wish lists. LOL.[/QUOTE]LOL I think a lot of them don't know what the word even means.
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;6807991]LOL I think a lot of them don't know what the word even means.[/QUOTE]You should see how many ask me what "platonic" means when I tell them non-platonic.
But I agree, do not count them out if they have platonic in their profile. All the ones I have connected with successfully have had Platonic in their profile and many have said they just have it there but are open to non-platonic.
So-Crates.
Honestly I've learned bios mean very little outside of giving red flags.
Women don't seem to really care about them as much as guys do, and they're up for anything with the right person or $.
Used to have a lot of success on this site. I made a new account a couple weeks ago and it's been nothing but a huge waste of time. Any decent looking girl is just a scammer or pic seller and while the ugly ones (85% of users) are real and responsive they want $$ These cows should be paying me to sleep with them! Considering charging back my sub.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ea66dddd-e286-4c41-b2bd-826d8a3d8659[/URL]
Picture seller.
[QUOTE=Twister100;6813134][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ea66dddd-e286-4c41-b2bd-826d8a3d8659[/URL]
Picture seller.[/QUOTE]Yup talked to this one already, could list like 50 pic sellers I've talked to this week. At this point would be easier to list non-scammers.
[QUOTE=PopItFank69;6813460]Yup talked to this one already, could list like 50 pic sellers I've talked to this week. At this point would be easier to list non-scammers.[/QUOTE]Don't forget all the escorts. Between the scammers, pic sellers, and escorts there are only like 10 women on that site at all. Complete waste of time.
[QUOTE=BBAsianLover;6814157]Don't forget all the escorts. Between the scammers, pic sellers, and escorts there are only like 10 women on that site at all. Complete waste of time.[/QUOTE]Might take another break once my 3 month resub comes up later this month. Been noticing as well that SA seems to be getting worse or I'm just being much more picky and not willing to settle. Also being outside the city, not being able to host, and not wanting to get a hotel really limits me as it is (hotel + ppm rarely worth it).
I've found some options, but sometimes it's just a pain in the ass versus just getting someone good from the other board and becoming a regular with reduced rates or something.
SA is supposed to have more value, but I'm finding that to be less of the case as time goes on with the $ women are expecting and the amount of time you have to invest to find a good one.
These things tend to go in cycles and over time it kind of evens out. I'm not seeing as many real opportunities and a lot more scammers or just plain unrealistic girls too.
Keep it in perspective. One thing I did was ask one of my regulars what kind of guys she was seeing in her profile search, and she complained that the pickings were very slim and the real options were ugly and few. The percentage of daddy scammers and bad actors is approximately the same as the percentage of baby scammers and bad actors. I guess this is one more reason we can't have nice things.
I've had a number of conversations with women, especially younger women, who are really over online dating because they've tried it and it hasn't worked or they got themselves into a bad situation. It doesn't take very many horror stories before women just are shunning the whole venue.
Chanel888.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/530efc3a-86c7-489a-8e2b-bbe29d47c628[/URL]
Looking for unknown monthly arrangement, apparently has a 2 yo despite her current profile saying she has none. She says she's up for ppm, but then just ghosts you if you mention it. This is her second account.
Kaylee.
Unfortunately didn't get her profile link, but was a scammer asking for money before meeting for stupid 'safety' reasons. She then switches locations to move to the next mark. She was in Seattle at first then switched to some random other city.