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[QUOTE=NintyNine;6005448]We have to be skeptical of these $320 girls nowadays. Might as well sit it out.
With inflation and possible recession, these agencies will have to drop prices eventually.[/QUOTE]Is it just me or does LA attract a lot of "free agent" types? Girls that come here and have no desire to make it work with any one org, or multiple orgs since this is a MBPG market. I understand that bills must be paid, and slow business doesn't help. But with CG especially, I'm never surprised to see a girl pop up and leave within days of each other.
A great exception to this observation would be Dana SFK. Been in LA for a whole damn year. And unless I'm mistaken, never booked through another org. Funny thing is I remember when OG Hana made 300 a thing. Then 9 months later Dana pushes it to 320. And here we are.
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[QUOTE=TheAbc;6005589]I've said it before that if they are $320 off the bat all inclusive, they are either on the older stock or on the bigger side. It's usually a combo of both so they know they can't demand a premium and hence charge accordingly. I haven't heard of a recent report of someone hitting the jackpot lately. If they did, it's on the DL. Time will tell if the agencies will actually adjust. They got really greedy in the past years. It's a mind boggling 44% increase in the past 2-3 years in terms of rate increase. I'm sure as hell don't see them employing those hot ass girls like in this video to justify the extra charge.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNoAL5Exarw[/URL][/QUOTE]Meanwhile the Bay only increased 18% during this time span. 220 then, 260 now.
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[QUOTE=GooseMan2792;6003534]Just moved over to LA, contacted the booker for a few of the sites mentioned on here and they are asking for a ton of screening information since I don't have references, that I am not comfortable sharing, like my full ID, paystubs or work verification, copy of mail with my current address, etc.
Is this typical for screening / client verification? I feel like providing all this info is just asking for my identity to be stolen or to be blackmailed.[/QUOTE]Yes it is typical in the current times. It was more laxed, if you can call it that, pre-COVID. Blackmail and identify theft are the potential consequences (skin in the game so to speak) for access. Move on if you don't like how the scales tilt.
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Kgirl financials
[QUOTE=TheAbc;6005589]I've said it before that if they are $320 off the bat all inclusive, they are either on the older stock or on the bigger side. It's usually a combo of both so they know they can't demand a premium and hence charge accordingly. I haven't heard of a recent report of someone hitting the jackpot lately. If they did, it's on the DL. Time will tell if the agencies will actually adjust. They got really greedy in the past years. It's a mind boggling 44% increase in the past 2-3 years in terms of rate increase. I'm sure as hell don't see them employing those hot ass girls like in this video to justify the extra charge.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNoAL5Exarw[/URL][/QUOTE]I'll start out by saying I don't like price increases either. And some of the changes in recent years are hard to stomach.
But I also realize it's not a one-sided affair and tried to look at it holistically. The overhead that comes with the operation of a kgirl business and the logistics cost associated with bringing the girls here all affect a portion of the final price charged to mongers. Therefore, regardless of the legality of it all, it is in fact a bona fide business. Of which, business fundamentals can be applied to. More importantly, the forces that affect such fundamentals can help determine how appropriate and fair the hikes in price has been. As a baseline, I have set $250 (the average hour price between LA and OC) as the baseline cost for 2012. Using any CPI-benchmarked inflation calculator, it'll spit out a range between $300-320 in buying power as of 2022.
I just see the rapid increase in recent years as more of a market correction to keep abreast of historic inflation levels. Ideally, commensurate COL adjustments at work should be helping to absorb inflation here and everywhere else. But you know how that goes. I won't go into whether BB should be included in the base price or as an upcharge as it's too contentious a topic and doesn't apply to the point I'm making here.
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[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;6003595]Anyone care to speculate on why Dia / Maisie CG (formerly Ella LKS) went down to 320 all inclusive?[/QUOTE]Competition, plain and simple. I've touched on how the amount of kgirls has rebounded to CV-era levels in a previous post. While there's no way for me to determine if the monger pool has changed, you can infer by this change that the amount of mongers may not be adequate to provide the demand necessary to satisfy the supply of kgirls available. One of the tried and true tactics to attract customers is the good old price drop. To be clear, certain girls may be fine with the low to average volume of customers they are seeing and won't change anything but hopefully more are like Ella / Maisie / Dia / Dahya and will follow suit. I see this as a good change from my perspective as a monger.
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She was great!
[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;6003595]Anyone care to speculate on why Dia / Maisie CG (formerly Ella LKS) went down to 320 all inclusive?[/QUOTE]I've meaning to see this girl but with decrease in entry, finally pulled the trigger! She is amazing! She's tiny just how I like and pretty tight box! Exploded real hard and deep! Nice attitude but definitely left 10 minutes early. No initiation of 2nd round offered but I'm just a 1 rounder.
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It's typical now for newbie. I think you can join Humaniplex and bang a few girls to level up then contact the bookers on Humaniplex for Kgirls. There are HX girls worth seeing and you shouldn't have to see old fat girls to level up. You shouldn't need to provide references if you saw enough HX girls or at least level 1. I never had and will retire if bookers ask me for such info.
[QUOTE=GooseMan2792;6003534]Just moved over to LA, contacted the booker for a few of the sites mentioned on here and they are asking for a ton of screening information since I don't have references, that I am not comfortable sharing, like my full ID, paystubs or work verification, copy of mail with my current address, etc.
Is this typical for screening / client verification? I feel like providing all this info is just asking for my identity to be stolen or to be blackmailed.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BastardChorum;6005820]Competition, plain and simple. I've touched on how the amount of kgirls has rebounded to CV-era levels in a previous post. While there's no way for me to determine if the monger pool has changed, you can infer by this change that the amount of mongers may not be adequate to provide the demand necessary to satisfy the supply of kgirls available. One of the tried and true tactics to attract customers is the good old price drop. To be clear, certain girls may be fine with the low to average volume of customers they are seeing and won't change anything but hopefully more are like Ella / Maisie / Dia / Dahya and will follow suit. I see this as a good change from my perspective as a monger.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Perhaps Ella et al's new found success will influence others. Time will tell.
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LA attracts a lot of "rebrand" types. You think a girl is leaving when they may just rebrand or change org. I think the problem is they are not hot enough or not good enough as pleaser. The OGs love pleaser and will write tons of reviews for them. Some younger inexperienced girls also may not be able to handle LA load. Some were upset cause I made them too busy.
There are girls worth seeing but if nobody write good reviews for them then how would others know to try them? There were many more reviews in the old days.
[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;6005696]Is it just me or does LA attract a lot of "free agent" types? Girls that come here and have no desire to make it work with any one org, or multiple orgs since this is a MBPG market. I understand that bills must be paid, and slow business doesn't help. But with CG especially, I'm never surprised to see a girl pop up and leave within days of each other.
A great exception to this observation would be Dana SFK. Been in LA for a whole damn year. And unless I'm mistaken, never booked through another org. Funny thing is I remember when OG Hana made 300 a thing. Then 9 months later Dana pushes it to 320. And here we are.[/QUOTE]
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I think the boss reuses Jackpot's pics. I notice some girls using other girl pics before. I am just waiting for 7/9 to put SAG IB and SAG Lisa2 in rebrand thread. I believe they will offer Greek for extra.
[QUOTE=RocketManP;6005572]Lisa's pics were use by girl named Jackpot.
At Peach. Cafe / Alpacas in the bay.
Reviews weren't terribly good iirc. She wasn't even BB when she started there three years ago or so.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=CreamFire;6005819]I've meaning to see this girl but with decrease in entry, finally pulled the trigger! She is amazing! She's tiny just how I like and pretty tight box! Exploded real hard and deep! Nice attitude but definitely left 10 minutes early. No initiation of 2nd round offered but I'm just a 1 rounder.[/QUOTE]Going to wait until she allows three shots, have other girls to visit in the meantime.
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Yuri at M
[QUOTE=Member#2210;6001658]5'1, 101 lbs, 34C. Anyone seen her yet? Searched in the ReBrand thread but nothing came up. TIA for any info.
https://myalbum.com/album/Yb77hNMuHTjK.......[/QUOTE]Has anyone seen Yuri Yet?
I can not afford to TOFT because the funds are limited, she seems to have a very generic stats like 5' ish, 100 lbs ish and C ish. Way too typical.
But her pictures does look cute but also look professionally shopped.
Please share your review, thanks.
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[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;6005858]LA attracts a lot of "rebrand" types. You think a girl is leaving when they may just rebrand or change org. I think the problem is they are not hot enough or not good enough as pleaser. The OGs love pleaser and will write tons of reviews for them. Some younger inexperienced girls also may not be able to handle LA load. Some were upset cause I made them too busy.
There are girls worth seeing but if nobody write good reviews for them then how would others know to try them? There were many more reviews in the old days.[/QUOTE]Bookers know to rebrand. It's not the girls. They know we fall for new listings every 3 weeks and it prevents us from keeping information and tabs on the ones that may not be a good value.
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[QUOTE=Vulcan1009;6005964]Has anyone seen Yuri Yet?
I can not afford to TOFT because the funds are limited, she seems to have a very generic stats like 5' ish, 100 lbs ish and C ish. Way too typical.
But her pictures does look cute but also look professionally shopped.
Please share your review, thanks.[/QUOTE]Don't sell yourself short my guy. If you could afford to see a girl with 5 glowing reviews, you could afford to see her with no reviews.
But don't listen to me, I'm just reminiscing on the days when dudes would swordfight to TOFTT in M's stable.
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CG Miso
[QUOTE=DashingD;6005595]Anyone seen Miso or have info?
One of her pics from asianvibe and garden secret looks familiar like an old cakdoll girl.[/QUOTE]Just google the archive, and Ctrl+F her. She's been extensively reviewed here. But I did see her recently; not good. Dyed blonde hair, same length with two tacky chest tattoos. Service was not as good, and she pinned me in Mish saying it was too painful. Think I might be done with her.