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You are solo sweet, thank you for such a touching review. I had a good time and I'm really glad you enjoyed yourself. Feel free to contact me anytime.

Some thoughts from my limited experience in this wonderful hobby we have. Far better than stamp collecting.

First of all, if I am reading this correctly, it seems you called this famous SP who has stellar reviews but is also known to not always reply to people and even occasionally stand up some guys, and then you waited a few hours before moving on? Damn. I figure five minutes is enough of a wait. My time is precious and if she doesn't get back to me in five then I work my way down the list. We have three ladies that advertise regularly on this forum that could be sisters in that young blonde spinner department and I think I could find another few if I felt I needed to. Move along, already. You're not in high school and she ain't the captain of the cheerleader squad. You aren't asking her to the prom.

For the lady in question just text her and if she responds then go from there. And if she doesn't then move along. She is popular which means she can be busy. You keep trying and you will score, one day. She is worth it, but she isn't the only lady that is worth it.

My take on references. I travel a bit and just got asked to give references before meeting a lady in a large mid-west city. Easy. I gave the name, digits and where to find THEIR reviews, especially reviews I wrote. When I first started in the hobby, after fucking a couple of ladies I had a couple of references. The more I played the more options I had for references. I have no idea if these ladies call and check these references but if they do I think most would say nice things about me.

Cliques? Really? Come on. Even the guys and gals I don't particularly care for I get along with and trust with my life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. It is about pussy, not personality. I know, if you read the Rat Trap you see the ugly side, but even there it isn't about cliques or posse's. That is, unless you make it so. Even the guys and gals that have been banished I shared intel and gave honest reviews of. Are there guys I trust more than others? You bet. Are there guys I am more easily willing to share closely held intel? Damn straight. You want to be one of them? Take a few for the team and write some reviews. Get ripped off. Write a review. Find the holy grail. Write a review. Build your creds. Dude, we will welcome you with open arms. We just won't let you peak at our collective Rolodex for a while.

Just sayin'.

C3.

[QUOTE=FloridaSun;2248888]I tried to connect with her the last time she posted, followed the instructions, provided references etc. And sat back and got no reply. OK I have being doing this for a while and I figured it is best to be with someone that wants to be with you than someone on the fence. I waited few hours then moved on. Here is a question if one of your referances is not on the SP like list do you think that is ground for disqualification. I hope we do not get cliquish in this community.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Camera3;2250855]Some thoughts from my limited experience in this wonderful hobby we have.C3.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your thoughts. I have been in the hobby for about fourt years and I have seen my share. Just a quick clarification this was in response to another post and waiting few hours for third party communication is reasonable in my opinion. And yes I am far from being in high school. The cliquish remark was about the SP and not the men.

The business of referances has gotten out of hand in my opinion. Many gentlemen are not making connections with SP that would love to see them because of this phenomena that did not exist more than ten years ago.

Our market is what it is because over active LE that scare good girls and bring in pimps and violent criminals, sad but true. Also any gentleman of stature would rather stay away.

I save my play to my trusted circle and when I go out of town and kow what to expect. And I strongly disagree with the behavior of some women who are not professional in their handling of the business, now they think it is high school.

So client calls provider over.

Provide shows up, this is there 5th encounter. Agreed donation is exchanged. However, provider enjoys herself so much that she declines donation? Client still enforces she take it for gas / lunch and whatever she needs. She sadly takes it.

Should a client feel bad? Was something done wrong? In eyes of the client, he didn't mean to hurt her feelings.

I have to say, hearing this type of story. I felt bad for the client, who misunderstood her and maybe wanted more from him outside of client / provider and perhaps. Friendship? Lmk your 2 cents all.

TRowe. You may recall my UTR that I came across last month (lost my burner BTW, in case you were wondering), well she and I had the same issue. First time was phenomenal, but still, just an exchange. Second time, was even better, only this time she declined any assistance. Here's where I went the other direction. We had a 3rd and 4th meet up, with each one getting better and better before it finally occurred to me that this just wasn't a good idea. I was noticing an attachment, and so was she (understandably so, considering how well we connected) and we both finally came to the mutual agreement that we were just too dangerous for each other.

I think you did the right thing on insisting to keep the relationship strictly professional, unless of course, you wanted more than that.

[QUOTE=TRowePrice;2257523]So client calls provider over.

Provide shows up, this is there 5th encounter. Agreed donation is exchanged. However, provider enjoys herself so much that she declines donation? Client still enforces she take it for gas / lunch and whatever she needs. She sadly takes it.

Should a client feel bad? Was something done wrong? In eyes of the client, he didn't mean to hurt her feelings.

I have to say, hearing this type of story. I felt bad for the client, who misunderstood her and maybe wanted more from him outside of client / provider and perhaps. Friendship? Lmk your 2 cents all.[/QUOTE]

Ah ok Matt, you missed 4 UTR I have come across. This one I hear is rare, as she is no longer on BP and seeing those she has chemistry with.

Let me know when you get a new burner please. I have some hand picked recommendations. Please inbox me.

[QUOTE=MattFromMCO;2257564]TRowe. You may recall my UTR that I came across last month (lost my burner BTW, in case you were wondering), well she and I had the same issue. First time was phenomenal, but still, just an exchange. Second time, was even better, only this time she declined any assistance. Here's where I went the other direction. We had a 3rd and 4th meet up, with each one getting better and better before it finally occurred to me that this just wasn't a good idea. I was noticing an attachment, and so was she (understandably so, considering how well we connected) and we both finally came to the mutual agreement that we were just too dangerous for each other.

I think you did the right thing on insisting to keep the relationship strictly professional, unless of course, you wanted more than that.[/QUOTE]

This is strictly in the hypothetical realm, here. After all, we are merely a group of romance novelists and this is our support group. We share here instead of drinking. So, here is how my imaginary character would think and deal.

My character has always considered himself to be a true Southern Gentleman. A Southern Gentleman has a trophy wife who he puts up on a pedestal and worships, a girl friend who he is bopping on the side while the trophy wife is stuck up on that damn pedestal and has his finger on the pulse of some of the finest ladies of the evening in town.

One of his favorite movies of all time was "A Guide for the Married Man" where Paul Manning, played by Walter Matthou, decides he wants to have an affair. His neighbor, Ed, schools him. One piece of sage advice my imaginary character has never forgotten is when Ed tell Paul, "Never have an affair with someone who has less to loose than you. " My character was in high school when he first saw that movie and that advice has stayed with him ever since. So, that movie may very well be the catalist that set him up to join this hobby as an adult.

He thinks if a SP ever offered him the Marios as some sort of genuine act of kindness he would not want to get in the way of where she is and what she is doing. Something has led to this act of kindness. Even the car wash has a buy-ten-get-the-next-one-free policy. Back to the Southern Gentleman thing, it is bad manners to refuse a gift. So he wouldn't.

Lastly, it would scare the ever loving shit out of him. At the point where a gentleman is paying a lady for services, they have pretty much equally broken the law. At the point where my imaginary character is bopping a single lady with no other consideration then he definitely has more to loose than she.

I don't know how exactly he will handle it. He is definitely in deep shit.

Again, just some random thoughts from the right side of my brain.

C3.

[QUOTE=TRowePrice;2257523]So client calls provider over.

Provide shows up, this is there 5th encounter. Agreed donation is exchanged. However, provider enjoys herself so much that she declines donation? Client still enforces she take it for gas / lunch and whatever she needs. She sadly takes it.

Should a client feel bad? Was something done wrong? In eyes of the client, he didn't mean to hurt her feelings.

I have to say, hearing this type of story. I felt bad for the client, who misunderstood her and maybe wanted more from him outside of client / provider and perhaps. Friendship? Lmk your 2 cents all.[/QUOTE]

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Lastly, it would scare the ever loving shit out of him. At the point where a gentleman is paying a lady for services, they have pretty much equally broken the law. At the point where my imaginary character is bopping a single lady with no other consideration then he definitely has more to loose than she

C3.[/QUOTE]My reaction to this seemingly good fortune is the same as yours. Many providers genuinely enjoy their time with us. But none of them hit on us at a party or a supermarket. We can never know if we first met a provider outside of the hobby if she would be the least bit interested in us. Certainly with repeat visits to a provider we develop a "relationship" but it exists only in the confines of the hobby. I suspect most providers would be uncomfortable if we unexpectedly ran into them while they were dining out with family and friends. We need to always remind ourselves that this a dream and a fantasy and leave our emotions in the dream and not in our wide awake world.

My cautious read is that if a provider offers a freebie it could mean she wants the relationship to change to something not within the constraints of the hobby. We have all seen Pretty Woman and I suppose such a change is possible. Perhaps everyone will live happily ever, ore.

It could also mean that since the milk is free you have to pay more to maintain the source of the milk. Rent, gas money, car pay, nets, and other expenses need to get paid. You could find the freebie cost a lot.

And in worst case the freebie could signal an effort to elevate the former provider's status so that the news of the new status could be reported to a significant other.

As flattering as the offer of a freebie is, I think if you were inclined to play the odds the odds are this is not a good thing.

[QUOTE=Camera3;2257647]This is strictly in the hypothetical realm, here. After all, we are merely a group of romance novelists and this is our support group. We share here instead of drinking. So, here is how my imaginary character would think and deal.

My character has always considered himself to be a true Southern Gentleman. A Southern Gentleman has a trophy wife who he puts up on a pedestal and worships, a girl friend who he is bopping on the side while the trophy wife is stuck up on that damn pedestal and has his finger on the pulse of some of the finest ladies of the evening in town.

One of his favorite movies of all time was "A Guide for the Married Man" where Paul Manning, played by Walter Matthou, decides he wants to have an affair. His neighbor, Ed, schools him. One piece of sage advice my imaginary character has never forgotten is when Ed tell Paul, "Never have an affair with someone who has less to loose than you. " My character was in high school when he first saw that movie and that advice has stayed with him ever since. So, that movie may very well be the catalist that set him up to join this hobby as an adult.

He thinks if a SP ever offered him the Marios as some sort of genuine act of kindness he would not want to get in the way of where she is and what she is doing. Something has led to this act of kindness. Even the car wash has a buy-ten-get-the-next-one-free policy. Back to the Southern Gentleman thing, it is bad manners to refuse a gift. So he wouldn't.

Lastly, it would scare the ever loving shit out of him. At the point where a gentleman is paying a lady for services, they have pretty much equally broken the law. At the point where my imaginary character is bopping a single lady with no other consideration then he definitely has more to loose than she.

I don't know how exactly he will handle it. He is definitely in deep shit.

Again, just some random thoughts from the right side of my brain.

C3.[/QUOTE]When I first read this I thought I was like minded. IMHO it is a very slippery slope that I would not want to go down. I think I would respectfully request she take the Mario tokens. Even if I had to try to slip it to her on the sly (pun intended). It is one thing for a model to offer perks like extra time, menu, drinks, special location (thanks Hun), discounts, ect. If a business or working relationship started to become more it would scare the beejivers out of me. Even if you think everything is cool with a model one never knows what is going on in the back of her mind. Just thinking about the rabbit in the pot in the Fatal Attraction movie gives me chills. CYA. IMHO keep things professional. Just my. 02. Cheers Jesse.

I've been in this situation with a very well known provider from 2008 thru 2011. She invited me over for dinner one time and it wound up turning into nights out and dating. The sex was absolutely incredible and I knew I was asking for trouble. Long story short it's just not a good idea. She was a liar and manipulator. I'd definitely would have kept it just business if I could do it alloover again. Keep it a fantasy and you'll be glad you did.

[QUOTE=TRowePrice;2257523]So client calls provider over.

Provide shows up, this is there 5th encounter. Agreed donation is exchanged. However, provider enjoys herself so much that she declines donation? Client still enforces she take it for gas / lunch and whatever she needs. She sadly takes it.

Should a client feel bad? Was something done wrong? In eyes of the client, he didn't mean to hurt her feelings.

I have to say, hearing this type of story. I felt bad for the client, who misunderstood her and maybe wanted more from him outside of client / provider and perhaps. Friendship? Lmk your 2 cents all.[/QUOTE]

Safe to assume as long as he insist on accepting his gift a client is safe?

Sucks since this is one of 3 providers that this client has ever invited to the domicile, hopefully he can detach quietly and exit before being missed.

I will put this situation this way for you I've had this happen three times in my adventurous life. I became close friends with two who are no longer in Florida and have moved out of state. I would meet them for dinner take them to movies and the beach on occasion. We treated it more like dating I always paid for dinner except twice she actually paid for my dinner on many occasions and one movie I think. Look you will be tested she will test the boundaries on what she can get away. One day she will ask you for a crazy amount of money in my case it was 5 K dollars to fix her van and another time 1 K to but her a new window unit I said no I don't have it see what her response is this will tell the truth on if she sees you as a friend / BF or just another sucker that she has roped in. Be strong and tough but not too tough if you understand.

Honestly it's not much different than a real relationship you will always have the doubt if she asks you for 20 dollars for the buss who cares really if she is asking you to fix her ride and give her an absurd amount of money think twice most likely she does need the money but not for the reason she is asking. Again this is not the same in ever rule there are exceptions! I've been close friends with a provider for nearly 5 years we started off as client provider but today we simply just go to dinner you would be amazed how much fun a lot of the women on this site are outside of the bed! She even pays for the dinner because we are close friends. I bailed her out of jail (not for what you think) she paid me back in full the next day so you never know!

Mik.

[QUOTE=TRowePrice;2257523]So client calls provider over.

Provide shows up, this is there 5th encounter. Agreed donation is exchanged. However, provider enjoys herself so much that she declines donation? Client still enforces she take it for gas / lunch and whatever she needs. She sadly takes it.

Should a client feel bad? Was something done wrong? In eyes of the client, he didn't mean to hurt her feelings.

I have to say, hearing this type of story. I felt bad for the client, who misunderstood her and maybe wanted more from him outside of client / provider and perhaps. Friendship? Lmk your 2 cents all.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Mik.

For the record it is not me, just a story I heard and needed forum 2nd opinion.

Thank you all. Let's hope logic steps in and they part on great terms.

God bless.

[QUOTE=Mikaeles;2261330]I will put this situation this way for you I've had this happen three times in my adventurous life. I became close friends with two who are no longer in Florida and have moved out of state. I would meet them for dinner take them to movies and the beach on occasion. We treated it more like dating I always paid for dinner except twice she actually paid for my dinner on many occasions and one movie I think. Look you will be tested she will test the boundaries on what she can get away. One day she will ask you for a crazy amount of money in my case it was 5 K dollars to fix her van and another time 1 K to but her a new window unit I said no I don't have it see what her response is this will tell the truth on if she sees you as a friend / BF or just another sucker that she has roped in. Be strong and tough but not too tough if you understand.

Honestly it's not much different than a real relationship you will always have the doubt if she asks you for 20 dollars for the buss who cares really if she is asking you to fix her ride and give her an absurd amount of money think twice most likely she does need the money but not for the reason she is asking. Again this is not the same in ever rule there are exceptions! I've been close friends with a provider for nearly 5 years we started off as client provider but today we simply just go to dinner you would be amazed how much fun a lot of the women on this site are outside of the bed! She even pays for the dinner because we are close friends. I bailed her out of jail (not for what you think) she paid me back in full the next day so you never know!

Mik.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TRowePrice;2261817]Thanks Mik.

For the record it is not me, just a story I heard and needed forum 2nd opinion.

Thank you all. Let's hope logic steps in and they part on great terms.

God bless.[/QUOTE]. ""Look you will be tested she will test the boundaries on what she can get away. One day she will ask you for a crazy amount of money in my case it was 5 K dollars to fix her van and another time 1 K to but her a new window unit I said no I don't have it see what her response is this will tell the truth on if she sees you as a friend / BF or just another sucker that she has roped in. Be strong and tough but not too tough if you understand. "".

Same exact thing happened to me. Too bad to. Sorry to read more about this one.

[QUOTE=TomStone68;2250534]She took down her Backpage ad, but found this one cached. A2, let me know if this is not acceptable. I do not think it counts as a competitor.

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