"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[QUOTE=Carmelfight;4039765]Hey guys new to the site, but not new to the hobby. Saw some good reviews about Laney on here sentt her message. She replied back asking for money to get something to eat and is starving? Has no SD's that will help out which by some of the reviews I'm sure she has few of you guys LOL. I've had a few SB's that have moved on with life and was looking to see what's out there. Question is she pulling a scam now or what?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6a6c063f-5efc-4484-9f12-b36927140544[/URL][/QUOTE]She's definitely baiting for some quick cashapp send. Rule of thumb#1: Never prepay dude.

[QUOTE=Carmelfight;4039765]Hey guys new to the site, but not new to the hobby. Saw some good reviews about Laney on here sentt her message. She replied back asking for money to get something to eat and is starving? Has no SD's that will help out which by some of the reviews I'm sure she has few of you guys LOL. I've had a few SB's that have moved on with life and was looking to see what's out there. Question is she pulling a scam now or what?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6a6c063f-5efc-4484-9f12-b36927140544[/URL][/QUOTE]A chick's first message to you is asking for money. What do you think is going to happen? If any lady asks for money before you have even seen her, block her and move on to the next one otherwise you are going to end up short some cash and with nothing to show for it.

[QUOTE=Petruchio;4039550]Hi guys. First time poster here. I have had a fantastic week, and need to share. Figured you all would appreciate it.

Let me begin by pointing out that my tastes run different than most of the posters here. I filter for college educated woman who are at least 25. I like them smart and selective, with a great sense of humor. I appreciate getting to know potential babies, including going on dates, intelligent conversation, etc. The advantages to this approach: 1) I am clear that once we meet and get a certain level of trust established, there will not be daily contact and 2) once I get their clothes off, I am very, very rarely disappointed. I know this approach is not the norm, but to each their own, right?

Also, I know that I am not posting links. I am not doing so because the vast majority of posts her with links are either inquiries about certain ladies or a less than stellar review that generally includes the phrase, "Will not repeat. " 3 for 3, the ladies described below were stellar and I absolutely will repeat. Also, all three would be pissed if I posted a link (and I do not want any of them to be pissed) Finally, they are all three in Memphis and would do most of you no good. That being said, if any of you are interested, feel free to reach out in PM and I might share details if I don't think it will blow up on me. But know that all three will require conversation and probably some wining and dining.

The plan for the week of Thanksgiving:

Monday-Tuesday: I am a bachelor in ATL for a few days.

Wednesday: I fly to Memphis for the holiday.

Thursday: Thanksgiving.

Friday-Saturday: No plans in Memphis.

Sunday: Fly back to ATL.

How I used this plan:

Monday: Dinner with girlfriend #1. She is not a baby. Just a married woman who is unappreciated and unbelievably kinky. Unfortunately, I was still wrecked from a weekend cold, so dinner was all we shared. I was disappointed, but was honestly not up for anything more.

Tuesday: Visit with girlfriend #2. Again, not a baby, but a recent divorcee who is rebuilding her confidence. Ate a couple of edibles and had a few cocktails. Sex with her was awesome both times, but I won't share details since she is not a baby.

Wednesday: Supposed to fly to Memphis on a 7 o'clock-ish outbound, but changed to an early flight. Met Baby #1 for drinks in Memphis at 5. She is an elementary school teacher. 28, with rainbow hair. Curvy in exactly the right ways. Take her to dinner. She is smart, sexy, funny and engaging. As dinner is wrapping up, I ask what she wants to do next. Her answer: "My place is just around the corner. ".

Head to her place. She gives me a thirty second tour and we start kissing in the kitchen. Moved to her bedroom and clothes start coming off. She likes the lights on. I go down for DATY until she comes. She sits up and starts some of the sloppiest deep throat I have ever seen, much less experienced. In fact, I pondered just finishing there. But I did not. Condom on- missionary with her legs on my shoulders; she can't quite get there again. She rolls over for doggie and pulls out vibrator. She comes at least three times. Likes to be spanked and choked. Dirty talk gets her motor running.

Finished in doggie. We both had places to be then, so no round two. I drove her back to her car. Promised to be in touch next time I am in town.

Thursday: Thanksgiving, so no shenanigans. But I did check into the hotel for Friday.

Friday: Met Baby #2 at a Starbucks at 8 AM. She is a married, Hispanic grad student. Great ass. Meeting was to confirm the in person attraction. Had already discussed intimate details / desires / pics etc. We were naked in the hotel room by 830. Man, her tongue. Super long and super strong. Felt great in my mouth and her head game was on point. Spent a couple of hours in that room. She really enjoys 69, which is fine by me. She also loves doggie. I lost count of her orgasms, but she comes both on her clit and g-spot. As we were showering, she said it was the best sex of her life; while I am mindful of her motive to bullshit me, she seemed very sincere. Was in a great mood for the rest of the day.

Saturday: In some ways, Baby #3 was the most complicated experience, but I am glad it worked out the way that it did. We met for coffee. Had planned to head over to her place if everything went well. She had let me know (before leaving) that she had a last minute sitter issue and the sitter was at her place with her kid. I figured I had nothing going on anyway, so why not meet for coffee.

So we meet. Have coffee. She is a journalist. Early 30's. Long brown hair and big boobs. She wears glasses and makes the sexy librarian thing really work. We talk for a couple of hours. Coffee turns into lunch. She says twice how she wishes her place was available. After lunch, we each head our own ways, having kissed several times and me touching some of her better parts.

Unforseeably, I ended up being free that night. I reach out to her, and what do you know? She is too. I pick her up, take her to dinner and suggest a hotel room (her sitter issue being the same). She enthusiatiacally agrees. We check in and are naked in minutes. She is very submissive. She liked to ask for permission before orgasming. I told her "no" once and spanked her when she did it anyway. She is one of the unicorns who comes mostly from sex. Only regret is that I could only manage one round. I could have gotten number 2 in if I had 30 more minutes, but I had someplace to be before questions started getting asked.

I drove her home, kissed her goodby and promised to reach out next time I was in town. She may be coming to ATL soon and promised to reach out.

Sunday: Got on a plane and slept most of the way back.

I expressed my appreciation to each of the babies by giving them $300. I know there are those who will lambast me for offering too much, but I am unbothered. I had a really good time and wanted to build future good will. None of the three are women that are in the pool of women who will affect the market rates. Finally, they are all hundreds of miles away.

All in all, what was promising to be a dull and slow week turned into a magnificent one.

Happy hunting you guys.[/QUOTE]Great first post. Stick to 200. Even if you can and want to give more. Bros before hoes.

[QUOTE=Carmelfight;4039765]Hey guys new to the site, but not new to the hobby. Saw some good reviews about Laney on here sentt her message. She replied back asking for money to get something to eat and is starving? Has no SD's that will help out which by some of the reviews I'm sure she has few of you guys LOL. I've had a few SB's that have moved on with life and was looking to see what's out there. Question is she pulling a scam now or what?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6a6c063f-5efc-4484-9f12-b36927140544[/URL][/QUOTE]I've personally met with her a few months back. Met at a spot not too far from Camp Creek. She wants 300, and that's why I haven't seen her again. But the time we spent together was well worth the cash spent (150 for 2 hours). Great sex, but search back and you'll see I posted more details.

Any babe asking for cash upfront, want to see how gullible you are. If they don't want to receive after giving, press on. I don't give up the cash until the deed is done and if the services were up to par.

[QUOTE=SkyWalker21;4041157]I've personally met with her a few months back. Met at a spot not too far from Camp Creek. She wants 300, and that's why I haven't seen her again. But the time we spent together was well worth the cash spent (150 for 2 hours). Great sex, but search back and you'll see I posted more details.

Any babe asking for cash upfront, want to see how gullible you are. If they don't want to receive after giving, press on. I don't give up the cash until the deed is done and if the services were up to par.[/QUOTE]Great advice! I kinda stopped talking to her after mutiple messages she sent with no reply so moved on. SA is a lot different from what I'm use too. Seems like more escorts than actual SB with a lot more scammers wanting to sell pics and vids. Like really?

[QUOTE=PrinceOfFools;4040430]A chick's first message to you is asking for money. What do you think is going to happen? If any lady asks for money before you have even seen her, block her and move on to the next one otherwise you are going to end up short some cash and with nothing to show for it.[/QUOTE]Yes, however she has been reviewed on here and favorable. My question was really has she started skimping instead of actual SB now??

[QUOTE=Member#2227;4039089]Would love some professional perspective on this. I recently met absolutely gorgeous 26 year-old white girl from a cuddling site. We seem to have developed a connection. I pay $80 an hour when we are in her bed cuddling. Which has lately turned into her naked and great kissing but no sex. When we head out to do things there's no money exchanged we just have a good time. I am taking her away to the shore for a few days this week and really looking forward to the time. She's made it clear she's looking forward to sex and that's it's just about us. No cuddling money. I have no desire that this is going to be a girlfriend as I'm in a relationship and much much older. Nevertheless I'm intrigued about what I stumbled into and would like some thoughts.

Also. On the web she has a few minor sites and sells pretty harmless of topless videos and photos of herself. She will frequently text to say hi or that she's missing me. She expressed how glad she is we met and that she's hoping it's long term. I'm curious as to what this all means. New ground for an old monger.[/QUOTE]I guess I first wonder what use a cuddling service is when you can get a 60 min rub and tug for about the same money, unless they are catering to dudes with ED.

If you are in ATL and going to a "shore" that is no small trip. I think it is pretty typical that the sex be free and plentiful in this type of case as are paying travel / hotel / food and incidentals so I tend to take the deal at face value especially if she made the suggestion to go.

Lot of these millinennial chicks are crazy and will F you brains out just so they can take pictures from somewhere nice and post on social media.

That said, you are no rookie and keep your guard up and careful with cards and cash etc and don't get lured into anything dumb. I like to size up their financial situation and career to see how much they are counting on the sex biz for money, if it is mostly for sport or they really need the income? Other than that bring some lube and blue pills and enjoy. Just my opinion.

[QUOTE=Member#2227;4039089]Would love some professional perspective on this. I recently met absolutely gorgeous 26 year-old white girl from a cuddling site. We seem to have developed a connection. I pay $80 an hour when we are in her bed cuddling. Which has lately turned into her naked and great kissing but no sex. When we head out to do things there's no money exchanged we just have a good time. I am taking her away to the shore for a few days this week and really looking forward to the time. She's made it clear she's looking forward to sex and that's it's just about us. No cuddling money. I have no desire that this is going to be a girlfriend as I'm in a relationship and much much older. Nevertheless I'm intrigued about what I stumbled into and would like some thoughts.

Also. On the web she has a few minor sites and sells pretty harmless of topless videos and photos of herself. She will frequently text to say hi or that she's missing me. She expressed how glad she is we met and that she's hoping it's long term. I'm curious as to what this all means. New ground for an old monger.[/QUOTE]Make sure the "developed connection" stays where its supposed to be, if you start falling for this girl you need to cut her off, block cell and email. Think about it. She's on a cuddling site and sells videos and pics, she's a pro! And I don't mean that in any manner that's offensive because I have the most respect for providers. But what I mean to say is that you must not forget that is she's out there "marketing' herself, you are NOT the only one, and even if y'all develop some relationship where it seems like its not business, you should treat it like it is, because even if she's not working a long game on you, she will always have other mongers because now she knows how to get that dough and will always have that option.

IMHO if you're going to be in a relationship with a girl she has to be one that would not even consider being a pro for a million bucks or that you're cool with me and every one else banging her.

So here is the crazy end to the saga. We decide to get STI tested before the trip (and prior to anything more than kissing) and she comes back positive for HSV. I have to give her the bad news (while she is at her parents!) because I arranged the whole thing to my email, etc. She's absolutely devastated to learn this. Texts me to apologize for messing up what could have been something. I maybe dodged a bullet but am as confused as ever. Would love to learn what was going on in her head. I liked your comment on social media. That seems to be more important than anything to that generation. Sorry to the PM. I'm not sharing her info or number with anyone.

There was another post asking why I'd pay 80 bucks for a cuddle. I'm so sick of indifferent girls, crappy massages and a lousy handjob. Either the girl zones out into space and strokes away or starts off nice and turns into a jack hammer the minute I start to get close. It's getting better to hold a tight body for a while and jerk off at home after.

[QUOTE=Leep12;4042126]I guess I first wonder what use a cuddling service is when you can get a 60 min rub and tug for about the same money, unless they are catering to dudes with ED.

If you are in ATL and going to a "shore" that is no small trip. I think it is pretty typical that the sex be free and plentiful in this type of case as are paying travel / hotel / food and incidentals so I tend to take the deal at face value especially if she made the suggestion to go.

Lot of these millinennial chicks are crazy and will F you brains out just so they can take pictures from somewhere nice and post on social media.

That said, you are no rookie and keep your guard up and careful with cards and cash etc and don't get lured into anything dumb. I like to size up their financial situation and career to see how much they are counting on the sex biz for money, if it is mostly for sport or they really need the income? Other than that bring some lube and blue pills and enjoy. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]

HSV-1 or HSV-2 ? There is a huge difference. Almost everyone has HSV-1. Most people were born with it, or get it, and never even know. You can get HSV-1 from a relative when they kiss you on the cheek as a kid, FYI.

[QUOTE=Member#2227;4042700]So here is the crazy end to the saga. We decide to get STI tested before the trip (and prior to anything more than kissing) and she comes back positive for HSV. I have to give her the bad news (while she is at her parents!) because I arranged the whole thing to my email, etc. She's absolutely devastated to learn this. Texts me to apologize for messing up what could have been something. I maybe dodged a bullet but am as confused as ever. Would love to learn what was going on in her head. I liked your comment on social media. That seems to be more important than anything to that generation. Sorry to the PM. I'm not sharing her info or number with anyone.

There was another post asking why I'd pay 80 bucks for a cuddle. I'm so sick of indifferent girls, crappy massages and a lousy handjob. Either the girl zones out into space and strokes away or starts off nice and turns into a jack hammer the minute I start to get close. It's getting better to hold a tight body for a while and jerk off at home after.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Member#2227;4042700]So here is the crazy end to the saga. We decide to get STI tested before the trip (and prior to anything more than kissing) and she comes back positive for HSV. I have to give her the bad news (while she is at her parents!) because I arranged the whole thing to my email, etc. She's absolutely devastated to learn this. Texts me to apologize for messing up what could have been something. I maybe dodged a bullet but am as confused as ever. Would love to learn what was going on in her head. I liked your comment on social media. That seems to be more important than anything to that generation. Sorry to the PM. I'm not sharing her info or number with anyone.

There was another post asking why I'd pay 80 bucks for a cuddle. I'm so sick of indifferent girls, crappy massages and a lousy handjob. Either the girl zones out into space and strokes away or starts off nice and turns into a jack hammer the minute I start to get close. It's getting better to hold a tight body for a while and jerk off at home after.[/QUOTE]Kids can get herpes. Is it simplex 1 or 2? I bet she knew and has a conscious, therefore she didn't fuck you sooner.

[QUOTE=Member#2227;4042700]So here is the crazy end to the saga. We decide to get STI tested before the trip (and prior to anything more than kissing) and she comes back positive for HSV. I have to give her the bad news (while she is at her parents!) because I arranged the whole thing to my email, etc. She's absolutely devastated to learn this. Texts me to apologize for messing up what could have been something. I maybe dodged a bullet but am as confused as ever. Would love to learn what was going on in her head. I liked your comment on social media. That seems to be more important than anything to that generation. Sorry to the PM. I'm not sharing her info or number with anyone.

There was another post asking why I'd pay 80 bucks for a cuddle. I'm so sick of indifferent girls, crappy massages and a lousy handjob. Either the girl zones out into space and strokes away or starts off nice and turns into a jack hammer the minute I start to get close. It's getting better to hold a tight body for a while and jerk off at home after.[/QUOTE]A couple of points here:

(1) standard HSV testing looks for antibodies against the virus, not the virus itself.

(2) 50 to 80 percent of adults are infected with HSV-1 (mostly oral). By age 50 90% of adults have been exposed to the virus.

(3) about 2/3 of people who are infected and show up as have positive on tests never experience cold sores or any other signs they are infected.

I think it's highly likely that she had no idea she had the virus, and if so, she probably has a very low probability of shedding it and interesting a sex or make out partner.

HSV 2 which is harder to explain if it shows up. I actually just read quite a few articles on transmission rates and it is difficult to spread even in a fully unprotected situation. At least from female to male. Simply not a risk I can take however.

[QUOTE=SummaTaco;4042804]A couple of points here:

(1) standard HSV testing looks for antibodies against the virus, not the virus itself.

(2) 50 to 80 percent of adults are infected with HSV-1 (mostly oral). By age 50 90% of adults have been exposed to the virus.

(3) about 2/3 of people who are infected and show up as have positive on tests never experience cold sores or any other signs they are infected.

I think it's highly likely that she had no idea she had the virus, and if so, she probably has a very low probability of shedding it and interesting a sex or make out partner.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Member#2227;4042846]HSV 2 which is harder to explain if it shows up. I actually just read quite a few articles on transmission rates and it is difficult to spread even in a fully unprotected situation. At least from female to male. Simply not a risk I can take however.[/QUOTE]You got to determine for yourself how much risk you want to take.

[QUOTE=SummaTaco;4042911]You got to determine for yourself how much risk you want to take.[/QUOTE][URL]Snugglebuddies.com[/URL] is the site. There are other options out there. But they are a bit less sketchy if you know what I mean.