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[QUOTE=Diver6390;4893186]This just popped over SA. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0f07f...9-2fbda88e6be9.[/URL].
The user name is Monse567. Tall at 5'11", and located in Des Moines. The profile also seem to imply she is into a Dom role.
Is this the same person as the famous Monse being discussed on the Strip Club forum?[/QUOTE]No, somebody asked this here recently I believe and said that Monse is much shorter than that.
Hey PolygamyMonger,
Can you clear out some of your inbox? I'm trying to PM you.
Thanks,
Esse.
Sorry, but this is long. A lot has happened this week, if it's too long don't read.
So, I have disabled my SA account for now. I spent the last month looking for babies and I have more contacts than I can possibly handle. I've had meet & greets with several this week and here are the results. I am NOT giving real names or users to anyone publicly or privately. I contacted many of the ladies that have been mentioned here (some positive and some negative) with the hope of a quick hook up and some asshole or assholes have contacted at least 5-6 that have been mentioned on this site, told them what was said about them and directed them here. That is a level of assholism that I simply can't comprehend. Because of this, no names, descriptions or any identifying information will be mentioned publicly or privately.
So, after sifting through the scam artists and changing my profile to weed out the gold diggers, I started to get people responding to me that I was more interested in. I no longer contact people because it's a waste of my time and anyone that contacts me without looking at my profile is blocked (you can see if someone has looked at your profile before they messaged or liked you).
So, I got about 6-7 that liked my new profile and made the effort to contact me.
The first person I contacted lived in Spokane was simply no one that I would be interested in. She's a lot taller than me and said that if I didn't have an issue with height, we'd probably be soul mates. I do have an issue with height (I don't mess with people taller than me). But she was 100% correct. We could be soulmates. She likes the same weird, obscure movies I like, she completely understands references that I make from books that I thought no one has ever read but me, she has the same weird hang ups that I have. I have never encountered anyone in my life that was so completely in tune with me. After texting for several days straight, she said she was going to ask me for money, but she couldn't do it. We continued to chat and she mentioned that she always had a dream of doing a book with her art. I told her if she got the book ready by mid-September, I'd cover the cost for her to self-publish it. I know I've never met her or fucked her, but she's a very, very sweet person and It's only a few thousand dollars and isn't that what being a sugar daddy is about?
While all this is going on, I had about 7-8 people texting me daily with bullshit about needing money for rent etc. ,. They had never met or tried to have any sort of conversation with me about anything. So, I ignored them. On Wednesday, someone that had texted me once sent me a text saying "let's meet today". I figured it was just a scammer so I agreed to meet. She lived in Everett and I lived in Seattle, we agreed to meet in Bellevue. I figured she wouldn't show up. I arrived at our location and encountered probably one of the hottest women that I've ever met in my life. I believe she was a professional sugar baby as she had all of the traits a man would want in a baby. Great conversations, sexy as fuck, talked dirty but was never crude, she knew her role and didn't step out of it for a second. We talked and immediately hit it off and were making out about 20 minutes later. We set up an arrangement and agreed to meet next week.
That night, I decided to deactivate my ad because I really can't afford more than two babies and another woman contacted me. We chat for awhile and she's simply a fucking mess. She wasn't the body type I liked and had a shit ton of issues so I had no interest in her but figured she might be good for a cheap lay, so, I told her I was getting off the site and gave her my burner number. She ended up texting me on Friday.
On Friday, one of those random people that keeps texting me about rent, texted me again saying they were really worried about rent. I told them if they needed the money then let's meet on Saturday and if we hit it off we can get a hotel room and I'll cover the rest of her rent. So, again, I didn't expect her to show up. Saturday, I pull up to our meeting location and Holy Mother of God, this woman was fucking insanely hot. She was wearing a micro skirt and had legs and ass for days. All I heard from her for the first 10 minutes was "wah, wah, wah" because all I could think about was hitting that ass. So, we have dinner and talk and we basically had nothing in common, but I had money and I was going to tap that ass so she could pay rent. So, after an hour, I say, "do you want to leave and get a hotel?" Her response was, "you know I really like that you wanted to get to know me better before we hook up and that you didn't treat me like an escort, but I think we should have another couple of dates first. " I was stunned. First off, she was someone mentioned in this group and I know she fucked several guys here (she admitted it and said some asshole told her about the group) without ever even having dinner with them for a lot LESS MONEY. I got turned down. THAT is fucking degrading.
So, I leave there feeling like the biggest loser in the State. Offered her more money than other random guys, took her to dinner and she'd rather be late on rent than fuck me.
I bend but don't break. I immediately got on my phone and contacted the curvy woman with all the issues and said, "I'm about 20 minutes away from you, can you meet?" She's like, "Fuck yeah, meet me at the park. " We had never met before and she showed up about 5 minutes after I got there. She was cute, a little overweight, but attractive enough. We sat in my car and talked for about 20 minutes and she said, "I was hoping you'd kiss me from the very first second that I saw you. " So, we made out for like 10 minutes and she said, "I am so completely wet. I have a van. Do you want me to get it?" I'm like. Sure. So, we went to her van and I probably had the hottest sex that I've had in about 15 years. She liked it rough and I needed me to be rougher. She loved sucking dick and was incredible at deep throat. She kept begging me to choke her while I slammed my dick in her. On top of all that, she's a screamer and I was covering her mouth so people wouldn't come out of their houses to see what was going on. I had no interest in her at first. But, without a doubt, a definite keeper. I tried to give her half the money I was going to give the hot woman and she wouldn't take it (yes, I forced her to take it).
While all of this is happening, I still have two other people texting me daily wanting to meet. So, once again, if you know how to work it, SA is probably the best place to go to find women.
[QUOTE=Michael1967;4897138]Sorry, but this is long. A lot has happened this week, if it's too long don't read.
So, I have disabled my SA account for now. I spent the last month looking for babies and I have more contacts than I can possibly handle. I've had meet & greets with several this week and here are the results. I am NOT giving real names or users to anyone publicly or privately. I contacted many of the ladies that have been mentioned here (some positive and some negative) with the hope of a quick hook up and some asshole or assholes have contacted at least 5-6 that have been mentioned on this site, told them what was said about them and directed them here. That is a level of assholism that I simply can't comprehend. Because of this, no names, descriptions or any identifying information will be mentioned publicly or privately.
So, after sifting through the scam artists and changing my profile to weed out the gold diggers, I started to get people responding to me that I was more interested in. I no longer contact people because it's a waste of my time and anyone that contacts me without looking at my profile is blocked (you can see if someone has looked at your profile before they messaged or liked you).
So, I got about 6-7 that liked my new profile and made the effort to contact me.
The first person I contacted lived in Spokane was simply no one that I would be interested in. She's a lot taller than me and said that if I didn't have an issue with height, we'd probably be soul mates. I do have an issue with height (I don't mess with people taller than me). But she was 100% correct. We could be soulmates. She likes the same weird, obscure movies I like, she completely understands references that I make from books that I thought no one has ever read but me, she has the same weird hang ups that I have. I have never encountered anyone in my life that was so completely in tune with me. After texting for several days straight, she said she was going to ask me for money, but she couldn't do it. We continued to chat and she mentioned that she always had a dream of doing a book with her art. I told her if she got the book ready by mid-September, I'd cover the cost for her to self-publish it. I know I've never met her or fucked her, but she's a very, very sweet person and It's only a few thousand dollars and isn't that what being a sugar daddy is about?
While all this is going on, I had about 7-8 people texting me daily with bullshit about needing money for rent etc. ,. They had never met or tried to have any sort of conversation with me about anything. So, I ignored them. On Wednesday, someone that had texted me once sent me a text saying "let's meet today". I figured it was just a scammer so I agreed to meet. She lived in Everett and I lived in Seattle, we agreed to meet in Bellevue. I figured she wouldn't show up. I arrived at our location and encountered probably one of the hottest women that I've ever met in my life. I believe she was a professional sugar baby as she had all of the traits a man would want in a baby. Great conversations, sexy as fuck, talked dirty but was never crude, she knew her role and didn't step out of it for a second. We talked and immediately hit it off and were making out about 20 minutes later. We set up an arrangement and agreed to meet next week.
That night, I decided to deactivate my ad because I really can't afford more than two babies and another woman contacted me. We chat for awhile and she's simply a fucking mess. She wasn't the body type I liked and had a shit ton of issues so I had no interest in her but figured she might be good for a cheap lay, so, I told her I was getting off the site and gave her my burner number. She ended up texting me on Friday.
On Friday, one of those random people that keeps texting me about rent, texted me again saying they were really worried about rent. I told them if they needed the money then let's meet on Saturday and if we hit it off we can get a hotel room and I'll cover the rest of her rent. So, again, I didn't expect her to show up. Saturday, I pull up to our meeting location and Holy Mother of God, this woman was fucking insanely hot. She was wearing a micro skirt and had legs and ass for days. All I heard from her for the first 10 minutes was "wah, wah, wah" because all I could think about was hitting that ass. So, we have dinner and talk and we basically had nothing in common, but I had money and I was going to tap that ass so she could pay rent. So, after an hour, I say, "do you want to leave and get a hotel?" Her response was, "you know I really like that you wanted to get to know me better before we hook up and that you didn't treat me like an escort, but I think we should have another couple of dates first. " I was stunned. First off, she was someone mentioned in this group and I know she fucked several guys here (she admitted it and said some asshole told her about the group) without ever even having dinner with them for a lot LESS MONEY. I got turned down. THAT is fucking degrading.
So, I leave there feeling like the biggest loser in the State. Offered her more money than other random guys, took her to dinner and she'd rather be late on rent than fuck me.
I bend but don't break. I immediately got on my phone and contacted the curvy woman with all the issues and said, "I'm about 20 minutes away from you, can you meet?" She's like, "Fuck yeah, meet me at the park. " We had never met before and she showed up about 5 minutes after I got there. She was cute, a little overweight, but attractive enough. We sat in my car and talked for about 20 minutes and she said, "I was hoping you'd kiss me from the very first second that I saw you. " So, we made out for like 10 minutes and she said, "I am so completely wet. I have a van. Do you want me to get it?" I'm like. Sure. So, we went to her van and I probably had the hottest sex that I've had in about 15 years. She liked it rough and I needed me to be rougher. She loved sucking dick and was incredible at deep throat. She kept begging me to choke her while I slammed my dick in her. On top of all that, she's a screamer and I was covering her mouth so people wouldn't come out of their houses to see what was going on. I had no interest in her at first. But, without a doubt, a definite keeper. I tried to give her half the money I was going to give the hot woman and she wouldn't take it (yes, I forced her to take it).
While all of this is happening, I still have two other people texting me daily wanting to meet. So, once again, if you know how to work it, SA is probably the best place to go to find women.[/QUOTE]That's an interesting read. It sounds like more work is involved than usual. It's probably not right for me, I don't want to actually talk to any of them. What's the payoff, are the prices a lot lower or something?
[QUOTE=Jonderin;4897628]That's an interesting read. It sounds like more work is involved than usual. It's probably not right for me, I don't want to actually talk to any of them. What's the payoff, are the prices a lot lower or something?[/QUOTE]The sugar baby game is so different from the escort game. Many on this site try to treat them like cheaper escorts but that really only works with extreme newbies or escorts pretending to be sugar babies. In general, sugar babies are like discreet, NSA girlfriends that you would never get in real life that you see occasionally and give them money or buy them shit. In exchange, you generally get someone that may be seeing you (and her regular boyfriend) exclusively or maybe a couple of other daddies. She's not bare backing any stray dog that sees her ad and you don't have to working about tasting the guy that just left when you meet or have to leave because she has someone lined up behind you. I have never had a baby that was simply wasn't amazingly hot. Hell, (until yesterday), the ugliest baby I've had has is 10 X more attractive than anything I've seen seen on Skip The Games (they all look like washed up hookers). TNA is full of fat, angry women that over charge and if I look really hard and really long, I may find one or two that look better than the ugliest baby (until yesterday) that I've had. Babies dress up nicely for you, treat you like a king when you are together, are attentive and of course will fuck you senseless. They don't ask questions about girlfriends or wives, but they assume you probably have one. A real sugar baby wouldn't put up with, "I'm available for 30 minutes, let's fuck. " They are more the I'm available for several hours, let's go on a date. The date usually ends with sex and money exchanging hands.
SA is riddled with wannabe escorts posing as babies; I avoid those. Many people here are good at finding those wannabe escorts, it's just not for me.
So, to answer your question, if you really want the full SD experience, you have to put in more time and effort to find the right person. What's really weird about it is that if you find a good baby, the amount of money you spend becomes irrelevant (okay, up to a point) as she is worth every penny. The interesting thing that I've learned about "real" babies is that they want you to spend money on them, but not enough that it is a strain on your wallet, because if they cost too much, then eventually you'll have to dump them.
[QUOTE=Diver6390;4893167]If I recall, Greek was on the menu, and bare -- at least at a time when BBFS was also available. And given her sub nature, I would think face fucking would be a slam dunk. That being said, if BBFS is off the table now, I don't know what she'd say about bare anal.[/QUOTE]Bare anal seems more common than BBFS, now that AIDS has receded. I don't do either, but I've been offered both. A well-known MILF in Renton prefers bare anal over even covered FS.
[QUOTE=Michael1967;4897732]The sugar baby game is so different from the escort game. Many on this site try to treat them like cheaper escorts but that really only works with extreme newbies or escorts pretending to be sugar babies. In general, sugar babies are like discreet, NSA girlfriends that you would never get in real life that you see occasionally and give them money or buy them shit. In exchange, you generally get someone that may be seeing you (and her regular boyfriend) exclusively or maybe a couple of other daddies. She's not bare backing any stray dog that sees her ad and you don't have to working about tasting the guy that just left when you meet or have to leave because she has someone lined up behind you. <snip...>
So, to answer your question, if you really want the full SD experience, you have to put in more time and effort to find the right person. What's really weird about it is that if you find a good baby, the amount of money you spend becomes irrelevant (okay, up to a point) as she is worth every penny. The interesting thing that I've learned about "real" babies is that they want you to spend money on them, but not enough that it is a strain on your wallet, because if they cost too much, then eventually you'll have to dump them.[/QUOTE]The SB game is indeed different, but dude, you're confusing it with something that matters. You still aren't an actual person to her, and she shouldn't be to you. It's a deeper, longer-term transaction, with attendant benefits, but you should step out of your frilly panties.
I prefer SBs over escorts. The second, third, . Time are better than the first. The intimacy, the comfort, fewer barriers. But you are deluding yourself. She [I]is[/I] barebacking randoms. She'll tell you you're special, but it's not true. And they all got it on the first, and only, date. Sarcastic is famous for that. You're her one-and-only, except for the others you read about just this week.
I like repeats because the vibe is chill. We look forward to it. No nervousness on either side. But an SB is still an escort. All we're doing is helping them lie to themselves.
[QUOTE=Rousse;4897993]The SB game is indeed different, but dude, you're confusing it with something that matters. You still aren't an actual person to her, and she shouldn't be to you. It's a deeper, longer-term transaction, with attendant benefits, but you should step out of your frilly panties.
I prefer SBs over escorts. The second, third, . Time are better than the first. The intimacy, the comfort, fewer barriers. But you are deluding yourself. She [I]is[/I] barebacking randoms. She'll tell you you're special, but it's not true. And they all got it on the first, and only, date. Sarcastic is famous for that. You're her one-and-only, except for the others you read about just this week.
I like repeats because the vibe is chill. We look forward to it. No nervousness on either side. But an SB is still an escort. All we're doing is helping them lie to themselves.[/QUOTE]I whole-heartedly agree with you on some points. In general, an SB is essentially an escort, but essentially so is a wife or girlfriend (unless she's supporting you). I don't believe that all SBs are fucking every bare dick they encounter, I am friends with too many of them that I don't fuck and if this were the case, I'd know about it. I'm assuming one of my clients that I help with investments that is a SB for a doctor and is getting about $100 K a year (which I have documented proof) isn't running around BBing some broke ass guy for $200. I'm sure that SBs that are receiving several thousand per month probably aren't either. It simply doesn't make sense for them to do it.
All that being said, I think whether you believe that or not depends on you perspective towards women, escorts and other sex workers. I believe a large amount of women, escorts and sex workers are simply good people. I don't believe that an escort / SB / sex worker runs around trying to fuck anything that moves for a few bucks. I'm too positive of a person to think that way. If you're a true pessimist, you're going to believe the opposite and nothing will change your mind, so I'm not going to try.
[QUOTE=Jonderin;4897628]That's an interesting read. It sounds like more work is involved than usual. It's probably not right for me, I don't want to actually talk to any of them. What's the payoff, are the prices a lot lower or something?[/QUOTE]In my experience better sex. It takes sometime, usually not in the first meet, and after making sure you would match but I had had mind blowing sex with a few SBs.
It might be cheaper than TNA if you favor long meets, if you were doing 90 mins and longer on TNA you might end up paying less here. If you are doing half an hours stay on TNA, it's a better fit.
[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;4887191]That is sad to hear, I have not seen her for the last 1. 5+ years so cannot attest to her current prefrence, but I do agree with you, I would not pay for a CFS visit with her. Having said that. She is (or used to be) the quintessential sub. So who knows how she would behave in person. Maybe my opinion on this is jaded by the experience I had with her 4-5 times I saw her. I basically did not hear the word no from here in the time I spent. It really sucks that she has changed her way, but I have not seen for a long time for a reason. I'm done driving long distances and waiting for an additional 1. 5 hrs for the appointment to start. I do not pay people to behave that way.[/QUOTE]Back in the day, she quoted me 500 for all night on SA and was worth every penny, but yeah her time management does really suck.
Sugar baby: Casual girlfriend that normally would be out of your league but, because you have funny money, is suddenly within your grasp.
Escort: Expensive hooker, likes to play make believe with men who have funny money but zero game.
Hooker: everybody gets a turn for the rate.
[QUOTE=Rousse;4897959]A well-known MILF in Renton prefers bare anal over even covered FS.[/QUOTE]Do tell! I must be living under a rock, I would love to know who this well-known MILF is. PM me if you prefer. Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Flyer99;4899021]Sugar baby: Casual girlfriend that normally would be out of your league but, because you have funny money, is suddenly within your grasp.
...[/QUOTE]My money is not funny.
So I went ahead and saw Rose. 500 for an overnight. Hours of seriously depraved PSE with a super hot girl. Pretty much nothing was off limits and she is a very aggressive and enthusiastic cocksucker.
But holy shit, she is needy. It's almost not worth it. Once you've seen her she will be constantly blowing up your phone and pressuring you to buy her hair extensions and commit to paying for her titties and complain about being depressed. Anyways, because I wouldn't give in to her neediness she got mad and she doesn't want to see me again.
While all this is going on, I had about 7-8 people texting me daily with bullshit about needing money for rent etc. They had never met or tried to have any sort of conversation with me about anything. So, I ignored them. On Wednesday, someone that had texted me once sent me a text saying "let's meet today". I figured it was just a scammer so I agreed to meet. She lived in Everett and I lived in Seattle, we agreed to meet in Bellevue. I figured she wouldn't show up. I arrived at our location and encountered probably one of the hottest women that I've ever met in my life. I believe she was a professional sugar baby as she had all of the traits a man would want in a baby. Great conversations, sexy as fuck, talked dirty but was never crude, she knew her role and didn't step out of it for a second. We talked and immediately hit it off and were making out about 20 minutes later. We set up an arrangement and agreed to meet next week.
Is she a short hair skinny blonde around 19 to 20 years?