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[QUOTE=SP508;3731276]Hey it's fine that you didn't like my post but it was neither s fantasy rape nor a violent sexual assault so how about you take down that description so that people who haven't read the post to form there own opinion don't assume I'm some kind of rapist.
[/QUOTE]It sure as hell sounded like rape to me. Just because they accept money in exchange for sex, doesn't mean you should treat them like shit.
[QUOTE=SP508;3732194]I still stand by the post. Everything was consensual but I can see how it was poorly worded. At no point did she say no or try to make me stop because I would have. Just played the game that many providers do after they get the money from you before they fill their end of the bargain.[/QUOTE][BLUE]I've heard about guys like you and until this moment I always thought they were a figment of feminazi imagination. No shit, I honestly did.
You wrote "she fought me every step of the way!! Kept motioning too big and pointed to the kitty and made the small sign with her fingers but I persisted. WOW SHE WASNT KIDDING! I couldn't get all the way in but it felt great though. She damn near almost was half way off the table trying to make it so I couldn't work my way in deeper. Eventually my efforts to drive it home succumbed to the inevitable and I filled the bag."
And now you are saying "everything was consensual" and "At no point did she say no or try to make me stop" when they "fight you every step of the way" that's them telling you no.
You honestly believe this wasn't rape.
A2 is fucking dumbstruck and you need to fucking go. I thought keeping you on moderation would be enough but you can't be a part of this site anymore.
A2[/BLUE]
A2, I applaud you for your morals and scruples. It sounded like rape to me as well, or at the VERY least abusive treatment.
A provider's limits aren't to be exceeded, EVER!!
Sometimes, in my experience, they'll relax them willingly, but in the Gentleman's Handbook no means no. Sometimes it means "No, not today", or "No, maybe next time", but it never, ever means "Yeah, go ahead and violate my boundaries or hurt me".
Guys like him are predators. Thank you for keeping a high standard here.
Way to keep things in shape around here A2!
Seeker.
[QUOTE=Admin2;3733442][BLUE]I've heard about guys like you and until this moment I always thought they were a figment of feminazi imagination. No shit, I honestly did.
You wrote "she fought me every step of the way!! Kept motioning too big and pointed to the kitty and made the small sign with her fingers but I persisted. WOW SHE WASNT KIDDING! I couldn't get all the way in but it felt great though. She damn near almost was half way off the table trying to make it so I couldn't work my way in deeper. Eventually my efforts to drive it home succumbed to the inevitable and I filled the bag."
And now you are saying "everything was consensual" and "At no point did she say no or try to make me stop" when they "fight you every step of the way" that's them telling you no.
You honestly believe this wasn't rape.
A2 is fucking dumbstruck and you need to fucking go. I thought keeping you on moderation would be enough but you can't be a part of this site anymore.
A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SeekGrtMass;3734480]Way to keep things in shape around here A2!
Seeker.[/QUOTE]I haven't posted in quite a while, so bear with me. I have had similar experiences as SP508 had. I always play the gentle, slow card and always get my way. If it ever takes a wrong turn and I can't have my way, I think I would politely ask for a reduction in pay and get a handy, leave and probably not go back regardless of the outcome. I think we should all understand that once something makes it out to the internet it NEVER goes away. In this day and age of allegations of sexual misconduct floating around, I am going to be sure what I post is accurate and not tempt the "indiscretion" beast.
Just my 2 cents.
Clit.
[QUOTE=ClitfLicker;3734523]I haven't posted in quite a while, so bear with me. I have had similar experiences as SP508 had. I always play the gentle, slow card and always get my way. If it ever takes a wrong turn and I can't have my way, I think I would politely ask for a reduction in pay and get a handy, leave and probably not go back regardless of the outcome. I think we should all understand that once something makes it out to the internet it NEVER goes away. In this day and age of allegations of sexual misconduct floating around, I am going to be sure what I post is accurate and not tempt the "indiscretion" beast.
Just my 2 cents.
Clit.[/QUOTE]You can pay chicks for rough sex we have no problems with that. You can pay for rape fantasy's if you want, no problem because that's all agreed on.
This is the chronology of that post.
He posted the rape story. Somebody reported it "dude, I think some guy is posting about raping some chick. " I looked at the post and read what he said, it was sexual assault, I removed it, threw the flag and put the account on moderation. THEN he came on and said "I didn't rape her so would you please make the redact text go away" so I posted what he wrote and said, yeah, this is rape as you wrote it. THEN he justified it but didn't say something else happened, he tried to say "she fought me every step if the way. But eventually succumbed to the inevitable" was consensual sex, clearly it is not and it is also not "I always play the gentle, slow card and always get my way. " There was nothing "slow" nor "gentle" in what he wrote. And there was certainly no accepting no as a no and trying to get his money back.
I've been moderating the forum for 5 years and this is the second time I've had to throw this flag. I don't pull it out of my pocket lightly but it's all in what he posted.
You as an admin don't need to explain yourself. I was shocked that the post lasted as long as it did. (I wasn't touching this with a 10 ft pole.) I read the op and it's clear as day. Women are not meat. If they rip you off, take the hit. They need the money way more than we do. If a woman says no, it's over. Take the loss and find another one that suits you. We pay women for their time. They are not obligated to do anything with us, and can end the meeting at their discretion. This is all basic stuff. Maybe a reminder is needed. That guy went on and on, trying to justify what was clearly a rape. I honestly read that post thinking it'll be taken down in seconds and that's be the end of it.
[blue]Two things,
1. I pay women for sex, good sex, I'm 100% clear about that up front (given I don't fuck around in barbaric countries like the USA where it's illegal) I do not pay them for their time. They can end the session anytime they want but they won't get paid if they end it before the agreed upon time and service. Women taking your money for sex then changing their mind and keeping the money may be basic stuff in your book but it's not in mine. Unless I am at a brothel I also never pay them until the session is complete, which they are also informed about ahead of time so they have no opportunity to rip me off. If they don't agree to those terms I hang up and call the next one.
2. At the time that post was originally put up the poster was an unmoderated senior member, I never saw it until it was reported. Why didn't you report it when you saw it?
A2[/blue]
1. Here in the States, to skirt around the law, women are paid for their "time" instead. No law against that. During that time, if they are so overcome with lust for you that they want sex, that's legal.
2. The post was so brazen, that by the time I got around to reading it, I honestly thought it had already been reported. Like seeing a car accident and thinking the ambulance is already on the way. Next time, I'll hit the button.
[blue]Cool, cool, cool.
1. I know brother and I don't know how you guys do it.
2. I was shocked when I read it and I was fucking FLOORED when he defended it not once but twice.
A2[/blue]
Drew Sophia on Thursday night.
Looks: 7.
Massage / Tease: 8.
Finish: 7 (rushed).
Last two times the girls were looking for more than the standard C-note. Wonder what's going on to cause this?
Some of us mongers know the world we are stepping into when dealing with these girls. Especially on first meeting, we go in with our guards slightly up, our wallets and cell phones in our car, and our expectations set bellow what we are wishing for. When things go well, maybe we just met a new regular girl worth visiting again. When things don't go so well, we move on and forget about it.
I never demand more than what the girl is offering. If she claims to do something and then doesn't do it upon delivery, I'm fine with that, because I know I will not be donating anything else to her charity in the future. Most of us naturally live by these guidelines, similar to how most of us don't hit our wives because they burn't the gravy. But, there are men among us who don't think their message is being heard, who feel they're being taken advantage of or not being respected. These types may even think there's some deficit within them to which a provider could sense and take advantage of if she wanted to, and they must counteract this by showing them that this weakness will not be exploited. These men are not good at practicing humility, their ego's are not good at stepping down and accepting some disappointment. They especially cannot accept disappointment from a physically and mentally weaker version of themselves (the female), as her position in society doesn't deem her the right to decide who gets a cookie and who doesn't. And the mere fact that this female has decided that he (the man) is not worthy of getting everything he desires, is the ultimate blow to his self worth and the ultimate accelerant to his self doubt. This in turn makes the man panic and get irritated, to which his only solution to showing he is a worthy man, equal to the worthiest, is to physically dominate and suppress and notion of equality or superiority that the female may posses.
The thing is, the man being in a house of providers, is in itself a weakness. There is no superiority possible at that point on the mans behalf. He's in a vulnerable position and will be lucky to do business with someone who won't exploit that. He is a customer hoping to be taken care of. He doesn't have the right to forcefully tell the sales team how to do business. His only option is to find a different dealership and hope they have better saleswomen.
[QUOTE=IsThataSw;3739922]Some of us mongers know the world we are stepping into when dealing with these girls. Especially on first meeting, we go in with our guards slightly up, our wallets and cell phones in our car, and our expectations set bellow what we are wishing for. When things go well, maybe we just met a new regular girl worth visiting again. When things don't go so well, we move on and forget about it.
I never demand more than what the girl is offering. If she claims to do something and then doesn't do it upon delivery, I'm fine with that, because I know I will not be donating anything else to her charity in the future. Most of us naturally live by these guidelines, similar to how most of us don't hit our wives because they burn't the gravy. But, there are men among us who don't think their message is being heard, who feel they're being taken advantage of or not being respected. These types may even think there's some deficit within them to which a provider could sense and take advantage of if she wanted to, and they must counteract this by showing them that this weakness will not be exploited. These men are not good at practicing humility, their ego's are not good at stepping down and accepting some disappointment. They especially cannot accept disappointment from a physically and mentally weaker version of themselves (the female), as her position in society doesn't deem her the right to decide who gets a cookie and who doesn't. And the mere fact that this female has decided that he (the man) is not worthy of getting everything he desires, is the ultimate blow to his self worth and the ultimate accelerant to his self doubt. This in turn makes the man panic and get irritated, to which his only solution to showing he is a worthy man, equal to the worthiest, is to physically dominate and suppress and notion of equality or superiority that the female may posses.
The thing is, the man being in a house of providers, is in itself a weakness. There is no superiority possible at that point on the mans behalf. He's in a vulnerable position and will be lucky to do business with someone who won't exploit that. He is a customer hoping to be taken care of. He doesn't have the right to forcefully tell the sales team how to do business. His only option is to find a different dealership and hope they have better saleswomen.[/QUOTE]That's one of the most eloquently written and thoughtful posts I've ever read here, and it shows the kind of strength of character, humility, and kindness that I try to bring to the table when I'm visiting our companions. It's an attitude that has gifted me with MUCH more than what some of our lady friends initially offer or advertise.
I, too, go in with my expectations low on a first meeting to avoid disappointment and am nearly always surprised at what's offered as the sessions evolve. And it's NOT as if I'm in any way submissive. I'm dominant, confident, but also gentle, kind, and respectful, so I suppose they sense that and are willing to give more in return. I've had more than one girl tell me they wish more of their clients had my attitude. Then again, perhaps I'm just fortunate to have chosen the right girls. Who knows?
What I DO know is acting the brute seems to me to be counter-productive and bound to get you black-listed or worse, and that being a gentleman usually gets you more satisfaction than was bargained for. Perhaps that makes me an atypical monger.
But what I really want to say is. . . Well written, Is Thata SW, well written!!
Has anyone been to X4 in Oxford of late? Probably been a year or so for me, not sure if it's still worth it when in the area or if I should seek another venue.
[QUOTE=JpcCT;3739778]Drew Sophia on Thursday night.
Looks: 7.
Massage / Tease: 8.
Finish: 7 (rushed).
Last two times the girls were looking for more than the standard C-note. Wonder what's going on to cause this?[/QUOTE]
I had a great time with Sophia a week or two ago. Excellent boobies, my type of girl. $100 was all inclusive.
Never been to an AMP but I will have an opportunity in the Worcester area.
Not familiar but would love a great recommendation.
Please PM your suggestions.
Long time lurker first time posting. Stopped by BVR for the first time and drew Nikki. Pretty girl, nice body, OK english. Really good massage, I mean really good. Minimal tease at first. OTC while on my stomach. She had these tight spandex pants that showed camel toe. I could easily feel her lips and clit. On the flip I unsnap her bra and lifted her top. Nice B's with great nipples. Mutual nipple play was fun. Nice HE with explosive orgasm that hit her in the face. She laughed and didn't miss a beat saying "oh so strong, ha ha" LOL. . 5 HF. 5 tip. On the way out saw really pretty busty asian with a sort stylish hair cut. Hope to try her soon.