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[QUOTE=Poohbear2; 1859079]Yes, that would be Meagan. She just got back into town and is still a good time. However her troubles found her again already so she will be unavailable for a bit.

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PS. In case some of haven't noticed / caught it yet, my monger radar says we have a fair number of fake review / recommendation postings recently by "handlers" and / or the girls themselves. Use judgement and take with a "grain of salt" on some of these recently. They aren't too hard to spot with a little practice.

I always wanted to see her, but not really into all the tattoos and the biker chick look. However, can't always judge a book by its cover. How is the massage? Where can you release, CIM? Facial? Thanks in advance!

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Had a second dream with Izzy. Great BBBJ skills and seems to enjoy. Nice bod for her age. Lots of tats and pierced nipples, large hard fakes if you like that.

Would recommend though, certainly for the price.[/QUOTE]

I totally agreed with all the reviews about Melanie! She is willing to please and enjoys all of it! Her BBBJ is top notch and keeps sucking way after the release. Plus she keeps asking for more. FS is just as good but a little loose due to a kid or two. She begged me for me to take her to Greece. I'm not a big fan of it but all I have to say is WOW! I saw her twice in 3 days just because of the quality I was getting for that rate.

Enjoy and always be safe!

[QUOTE=ColtsRn123; 1859225]I saw this sexy lady in Brandon this past Saturday. She is hobbyist dream. She loved everything even greek isles pounding.

She offers a great BBBJ. When I say great I mean great. The vag is a little loose but still nice and wett

And responsive. She loves it all fellas. I cannot wait to see her again.

I love a great BBBJ and trips to greek so if you are like me try her out.

Dave[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TivoTerry; 1857528]Yeah, I'm going to have to say, let this one "move on" (using your own words) FLlGator. I tried a hook up with her earlier this evening and it did NOT turn out well. Now, I'm well aware as an experienced monger that it is ALWAYS YMMV, but this encounter is worth of the following review:

It started out nice and easy. Fast response to my text saying she would be available at X:30 time and where she was located (Microtel on Hillsborough at D. Mabry). Great! I got there about 5 minutes before agreed upon time and texted her so, asking her if ready and room number. No response. OK, that is fine, I was a bit early. About 10 minutes pass and I send a friendly text again indicating I was in parking lot, etc. No response. Another few minutes pass and at thsi point almost 15 minute past agreed upon time. So, I was just going to pack it up and call it a loss (it happens, no biggie). Before I did however, I figured I'd send her one last text / opportunity before I drove a way. She did respond pretty quickly (surprisingly, as I had started to pull away) with a terse: "floor X and room XXX". OK, great! So I went up to her room and knocked and no answer. Waited a total of probably 3 or 4 minutes and knocked an additional couple times before it got awkward and I started to make my way back out. I was of course a little frustrated, but figured "no harm, no foul" and that she was just being cautious. It happens and as always is YMMV. I had a backup plan. I did send another text as I was making my way back out to the car saying "No answer at your door. Mistake?". She did respond till I was in my car and driving to my plan B. It got ugly from there though. For some reason she felt compelled to tell me that I was wasting HER TIME and that she was waiting and that I didn't knock on her door. I referred back to my text history to double-check and I went to the door she told me, so I responded back that I went to room XXX. She responded that I was playing games and that she was in XXX+3 (I. E, a different room). At this point, I did tell her to go blow admittedly. Then the diatribe started! LMAO. This girl can be nasty with the english language!

Anyway my fellow mongers. I wanted to share my experience. Maybe it was just the moons aligned to make it a miss for me, but my gut tells me she is a problem. YMMV as always, but be cautious with her.

PS. Another "odd" thing that makes me think she might have a "handler". Right as she texted me her room# and I got out of my car, a DUDE and another chick come out the front of the hotel and "loitered" you might say. Smoking and playing with their phones. As I left, I passed them again (and they looked fishy still) and they went back into the hotel as I was pulling away. The DUDE was big (white middle aged). The girl I recognized. I think you all might remember her. She was a half asian / half white cute little thing (hard toned body) that was working out of her apartment a couple years ago. Had several good review here and on the oThER site. She got pinched probably in 2011 if my recollection is right and had drugs in / on her apartment and was looking like she was in big trouble. This was all discussed in the forums here. She dropped off BP / the radar after that. Well, this was her. It is quite possible, if my monger radar was in tune, that she is working with this girl and they have a handler.

Peace fellow mongers (sorry for long-winded negative review / post, but I'll follow up with a positive one in a second to make the universe back in balance).[/QUOTE]Meagan was one of the best fucks I ever had. She was very good at what she did. I would like to see her again.

[QUOTE=Troop;1859661]Meagan was one of the best fucks I ever had. She was very good at what she did. I would like to see her again.[/QUOTE]Agree. Hopefully she'll be out soon. The only appearance of the DUDE was in her 100mph semi audible ramblings.

This new one is going to get me in trouble one way or the other.

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Had a second dream with Izzy. Great BBBJ skills and seems to enjoy. Nice bod for her age. Lots of tats and pierced nipples, large hard fakes if you like that.

Would recommend though, certainly for the price.[/QUOTE]She does a double with Cheyanne. I've seen Cheyanne and had a great experience but I'm not into fake tits so I'm iffy about seeing Izzy. I've met her before because I used to meet with someone she live / worked with. Maybe I'll finally give them a try as a double.

[QUOTE=Parker2004; 1855485]This isn't about any one girl in particular but is anyone else really annoyed when girls write some bullshit about being an "exotic beauty" in their ads and then you see the pics and they're white girls? Or black? Come on, do these bitches even know what exotic means? If you're going to write exotic in your ad you better be asian, Mongolian, Czech, from the fucking mountain villages of Nepal, or some other rare shit, or some combination of any of these. Being black, Latin, and especially white doesn't make you exotic. And neither do tattoos. Do these girls understand tattoos are a manly thing and we don't like their tattoos? Especially the girls covered in them?

Ok, bitchfest over, I'm off my soap box, I just had to share.[/QUOTE]I feel yah! And agree with you for the most part. Especially the 'tattoo' part. But, Exotic means they are from a different country so, being an American (assuming you are too) , you're abosolutely right. But, if the Monger is Russian then, a midwest am wht girl is exotic to him. But I know what you mean.

[QUOTE=Bigred2006;1859997]She does a double with Cheyanne. I've seen Cheyanne and had a great experience but I'm not into fake tits so I'm iffy about seeing Izzy. I've met her before because I used to meet with someone she live / worked with. Maybe I'll finally give them a try as a double.[/QUOTE]I visited her a long while back. Friendly girl. I liked her. Rock hard bolts. Good BBJ. Nice FS. Would repeat only when all else fails. Price works for me.

Had a visit with Victoria at DM that was absolutely amazing. A bit of "getting to know you" chit chat (with her very sexy accent) followed by some passionate dfk. She has strong lips and interacts well, often initiating which is always nice. When it comes to her bbj she has no gag reflex. Removing her clothes reveals her perky breasts and nice round firm ass. She is very vocal, making some wonderful noises and dirty talk. She left me with the impression that she enjoyed it almost as much as I did. Whether that is true or not, it means that she deserves my recommendation as a must see at DM.

[QUOTE=Troop;1859661]Meagan was one of the best fucks I ever had. She was very good at what she did. I would like to see her again.[/QUOTE]When I saw her add in Gville I texted her. She seemed paranoid, something about her crazy ex, blah, blah. I messaged a couple buds from the oThER spot. Planned on making the trip up north; this saves gas and time. She is like a cat in heat in the bedroom.

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Thank you for your interest in me I am extremely flattered that you find me attractive. The photo I ask for is for verification purposes only I am not looking for anything elaborate just a simple snap of your face from your iPhone.

(Let me explain my motivation and availability.)

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[QUOTE=Bigred2006;1859997]She does a double with Cheyanne. I've seen Cheyanne and had a great experience but I'm not into fake tits so I'm iffy about seeing Izzy. I've met her before because I used to meet with someone she live / worked with. Maybe I'll finally give them a try as a double.[/QUOTE]I believe you meant Shyanne. Back in May I saw Shyanne and we were talking about her doing doubles with Izzy. I too had a pretty good time with Shyanne and would repeat. Izzy gets some good performance reviews, but I just can't get into the biker / tatted up look, even if those bolt-ons are crazy big.

[QUOTE=Heavydrop29;1860798]I believe you meant Shyanne. Back in May I saw Shyanne and we were talking about her doing doubles with Izzy. I too had a pretty good time with Shyanne and would repeat. Izzy gets some good performance reviews, but I just can't get into the biker / tatted up look, even if those bolt-ons are crazy big.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure. I tried to clarify with her and it seemed she was with the Cheyanne with a C because I've seen both C / Shyannes so I was unsure who she was referring to at first.

Actually, Cheyanne did do doubles with Izzy for a short while. All three girls are sweethearts. Very nice, very accomodating.

[QUOTE=Heavydrop29;1860798]I believe you meant Shyanne. Back in May I saw Shyanne and we were talking about her doing doubles with Izzy. I too had a pretty good time with Shyanne and would repeat. Izzy gets some good performance reviews, but I just can't get into the biker / tatted up look, even if those bolt-ons are crazy big.[/QUOTE]

I came across this ad for a 4-hand BR by two older women:

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No number, no names. After several email I got pictures of them and they look like what they say they are.

Damage for a one hout rub by both of them (in the nude) would be 120.

It will be a long treck for me from South County but for 120 it would be worth while.

Unless somebody has sample the goods and tells me not to.

Thanks for any info. Bill Ho

I met Miranda at a nice hotel near the Tampa airport. She's really nice, clean, and looks like her pics. I felt comfortable and safe in the room because she didn't give me any BS about the $, and doesn't act like she's ghetto or trailer trash. She's got a good attitude. She did a great sensual body to body rub with oil and a happy ending, and didn't rush me either. 140 for the hr. Overall, I would recommend her.

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Anyonr seen Ariel yet? Tampa. Backpage. Com / FemaleEscorts / sexy-blue-eyed-college-beauty-21/10791354

[QUOTE=Hidell;1861857]Anyonr seen Ariel yet? Tampa. Backpage. Com / FemaleEscorts / sexy-blue-eyed-college-beauty-21/10791354[/QUOTE]Yep reviewed her a while back axe bored the whole time very business-like not real friendly.

[QUOTE=Legalize it; 1861777]I met Miranda at a nice hotel near the Tampa airport. She's really nice, clean, and looks like her pics. I felt comfortable and safe in the room because she didn't give me any BS about the $, and doesn't act like she's ghetto or trailer trash. She's got a good attitude. She did a great sensual body to body rub with oil and a happy ending, and didn't rush me either. 140 for the hr. Overall, I would recommend her.

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[url]http://tampa.backpage.com/BodyRubs/upscale-body2body-sensual-rubs-airport-specials-27/10446001[/url][/QUOTE]I saw her 2 weeks ago in a mid-scale hotel near the airport. She had a nice ambiance going on with candles, music and incense. She is beautiful but wouldn't kiss. It was a slip and slide type rub with lots of baby oil. Pretty hot but that was it. She was on the rag at the time and I didn't last long but it was a bit expensive for what it was.

[QUOTE=BillyBob987; 1858839]Fellas, any info on this one? I remember seeing her ads earlier in the year but do not believe I ever found any info on her.

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I know I could use a TASTY TREAT! Hello Boys! Did you miss me? I missed you! I'm 5'3, 110 lbs, green eyes an a whole lot of fun! I love what I do an am VERY GOOD at it! Call me an I'll show you! PLEASE NO TEXT or BLOCKED CALLS! REAL MEN ONLY! XOXO hope to see you soon! 813-506-2711 so don't delay call me today!

Poster's age: 37.

• Location: Hillsborough Co, Brandon Area.

• Post ID: 7128715 tampa[/QUOTE]Anything on this one fellas?

[QUOTE=BillyBob987;1862109]Anything on this one fellas?[/QUOTE]She says she is 37 but I like to see some I'd cause she looks way in her mid 40 to me.

[QUOTE=Bill Ho; 1861474]I came across this ad for a 4-hand BR by two older women:

[url]http://tampa.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/double-your-pleasure-seeking-mature-men-45/10837592[/url]

No number, no names. After several email I got pictures of them and they look like what they say they are.

Damage for a one hout rub by both of them (in the nude) would be 120.

It will be a long treck for me from South County but for 120 it would be worth while.

Unless somebody has sample the goods and tells me not to.

Thanks for any info. Bill Ho[/QUOTE]I had a good time with them. No oral or FS but I get the feeling they might loosen up after a few visits.

[QUOTE=BillyBob987;1862109]Anything on this one fellas?[/QUOTE]I usually don't meet with older providers but I almost set something up with her back in January / February. I think I canceled because I couldn't find anything. I like her look and if I didn't have an appointment planned for tomorrow with Brooke I'd TOFTT.

Fellas, any info on this little hottie? Ad says she's a freak. Hoping its true.

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[QUOTE=LoveTheseHoes; 1862348]Fellas, any info on this little hottie? Ad says she's a freak. Hoping its true.

[url]http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/7274202764-exotic-freak-100-addictive-22/10798232[/url][/QUOTE]My friend, granpappy MO has asked me to offer some advice and is going to be gentle with you. It is unwise to ask for info in your first post. Also there is a search function which as a registered member you can use, try it out.

Lovethesehoes, hey buddy, welcome to forum. When you find out if she a freak, let us know.

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Her name is Vivi and she is 26 but looks younger. Has long legs, firm but soft breasts, pink nipples, shaved, very clean, looks like a college girl oughtta look, dark hair, sexy green dough eyes to look up at you while she is servicing you, very soft spoken like a nun, and thin.

She gave me a BBBJ for a low lunch time special, she CIM but no swallow, let me touch and hold her beautiful be cup breasts, no stretch marks or messy tattoos. But she did have an engagement ring which turned me on way more bc I loved the idea of sending her home to her man all used up.

Please give her a call whenever you are available in Brandon. Next time I will try full service and post about it. She is sweet and non rushing for sure. But she should consider swallowing, I mean spitters are for quitters after all, LOL.

[QUOTE=Bigred2006;1862329]I usually don't meet with older providers but I almost set something up with her back in January / February. I think I canceled because I couldn't find anything. I like her look and if I didn't have an appointment planned for tomorrow with Brooke I'd TOFTT.[/QUOTE]I emailed her back then as well and inquired to reviews and if I remember correctly she was not overly helpful. I believe she is on the NR site but under a different number but do not think she is reviewed.

Is it just me or is there a bunch of smoking hot, younger lookin, new providers. Would like to think that some are real but doing this long enuf to know the likelihood of that is slim. Either old pics, drugged up, fake pics or poe-poe. We ll see how they play out.

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Her name is Vivi and she is 26 but looks younger. Has long legs, firm but soft breasts, pink nipples, shaved, very clean, looks like a college girl oughtta look, dark hair, sexy green dough eyes to look up at you while she is servicing you, very soft spoken like a nun, and thin.

She gave me a BBBJ for a low lunch time special, she CIM but no swallow, let me touch and hold her beautiful be cup breasts, no stretch marks or messy tattoos. But she did have an engagement ring which turned me on way more bc I loved the idea of sending her home to her man all used up.

Please give her a call whenever you are available in Brandon. Next time I will try full service and post about it. She is sweet and non rushing for sure. But she should consider swallowing, I mean spitters are for quitters after all, LOL.[/QUOTE]Sweet. Had my eye on that one. Next time I am up that way.

[QUOTE=BillyBob987;1862942]I emailed her back then as well and inquired to reviews and if I remember correctly she was not overly helpful. I believe she is on the NR site but under a different number but do not think she is reviewed.[/QUOTE]Saw her this morning very early. Can't give a lot of insight about performance, but was exactly what my taste was for today. Super tiny. 5' even and about 105. Sometimes just want a tight gripping spinner to take a pounding for about 20 min. Got exactly what I was looking for. Left her out of breath because I brought the power. Like I said, can't tell you about the service otherwise, but can assure you there's no bait and switch or other bullcrap.

[QUOTE=BizarroMarc; 1862746][url]http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/andlt3-vivi-andlt3-brandon-lunchtime-60-specials-avail-247-26/10752971[/url]

Her name is Vivi and she is 26 but looks younger. Has long legs, firm but soft breasts, pink nipples, shaved, very clean, looks like a college girl oughtta look, dark hair, sexy green dough eyes to look up at you while she is servicing you, very soft spoken like a nun, and thin.

She gave me a BBBJ for a low lunch time special, she CIM but no swallow, let me touch and hold her beautiful be cup breasts, no stretch marks or messy tattoos. But she did have an engagement ring which turned me on way more bc I loved the idea of sending her home to her man all used up.

Please give her a call whenever you are available in Brandon. Next time I will try full service and post about it. She is sweet and non rushing for sure. But she should consider swallowing, I mean spitters are for quitters after all, LOL.[/QUOTE]Hey what was the damage for the lunch time Head Ache Relief special?

Stay Safe & Happy Hunting

[QUOTE=The Creep;1863116]Saw her this morning very early. Can't give a lot of insight about performance, but was exactly what my taste was for today. Super tiny. 5' even and about 105. Sometimes just want a tight gripping spinner to take a pounding for about 20 min. Got exactly what I was looking for. Left her out of breath because I brought the power. Like I said, can't tell you about the service otherwise, but can assure you there's no bait and switch or other bullcrap.[/QUOTE]My Fellow Hunter,

What is this Can't give a lot of insight about performance? That the whole purpose of this site is to give inside on this lady performance. For a 40 year old age has a hot bod. Does she BBBJ or CBJ. Could you give us a little more insight or her. Thanks.

Stay Safe & Happy Hunting

Hey gents!

Good ol Panda is returning from my deployment. I return this Friday, was looking for something since my regulars either don't work anymore or got tagged and bagged (cants find Lisa, Mary, that new Yorker from riverview or the little petite Hispanic girl down on fletcher and 275) was wondering if you all got some recommendations (or asians if any exist) on the to go menu. I'll pay you guys back once I get my jeep so I can go scout again.

Panda

I had a dream.

In this dream I took one for the team. Little more mileage than the pics show. Titties a bit disappointing. She looks a little haggard. All is on the menu 100 1/2 hr. She is supposed to get some bolt-ons (needed) in a month. Would take another crack after the bolt ons. Nice gal though.

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Was hoping one of you guys had already seen her but no-one had info, so I TOFTT. When I saw her pics on BP I figured she was TGTBT. Gave her a call anyways and got her prices. Her damage for incall 120 / hh 200 / hr. Outcall 150 / hh 250 / hr. She had a great personality on the phone. Saw Brittney early this morning for a 30min. Incall. And I was not let down. She's stunning. This pretty young thing uses her private residence so no worry of a hotel.

When I got there she came outside and all I can is wow. When we went inside she let me look around to see that there was noone else there. We headed to the bedroom where she asked for the donation. Left it on the dresser. And got to work. She was very sensual, energetic, and pleasent during the entire session. She even made eye contact. Sadly, no BBBJ. But her head game is great. DATY is available. And when I asked if greek was on the menu. She told me she was actually half Greek, so it was on the menu. When our session was done we layed there for a bit and conversated. She seemed completely relaxed and didn't rush or clock watch during our session. I will definitely be seeing her again. Left feeling completely satisfied.

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[QUOTE=Flabro; 1863394]My Fellow Hunter,

What is this Can't give a lot of insight about performance? That the whole purpose of this site is to give inside on this lady performance. For a 40 year old age has a hot bod. Does she BBBJ or CBJ. Could you give us a little more insight or her. Thanks.

Stay Safe & Happy Hunting[/QUOTE]Yea, obviously single post poster. Pimp or selfie.

My Fellow Hunter,

I was interested with delivering the good News. On the return of our favorite quick stop gal (Rebecca) with her working man 40 special LOL. So keep a watchful eye out for her ad on BP for her arrival. Let us Hunters give her a Hot Man Chowder welcome back LOL.

Stay Safe & Happy Hunting

[QUOTE=TacoNuts;1863881]Yea, obviously single post poster. Pimp or selfie.[/QUOTE]Nooooooo. That was the extent of the visit. I had little time and was in the mood for a quick throw down anyway. Literally, came in, put her down, pounded, left. Can't attest to any other services or the skill with which they are provided. Just wanted to let the guys who were asking know that there is no manager hanging around, nobody hiding in the bathroom or closet, and no ripoff scam. Sorry, not going to make stuff up that didn't happen.